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And obstructing other traffic is oftentimes the root cause of road rage.
Be careful what you wish for...
And I disagree vehemently with that.
I can drive the speed limit (legally) in ANY lane I want, in any state.
No state has a law which says the "fast lane is for SPEEDERS only."
If the "fast lane" average speed is 75 and the speed limit is just 65 (a much-too-common-occurrence) and I need to pass someone using that "fast" lane and I can pass them going 65 but it might take a mile or two (saying the person I'm passing is only going 62 MPH) I have every right to be in that lane long enough to make the pass.
The same token, unless there is a sign which says "left lane for passing only" then I can also legally drive 65 in any lane I want - including the fast lane.
I know, there are true stories of people getting ticketed for "disrupting the flow of traffic" but there are VERY few judges who are going to uphold a ticket for someone who was driving the LEGAL speed limit.
All this discussion is just silly. Just obey the traffic laws and quit trying to be a rebel.
ROFL! Cutting people off and impeding traffic are not only ALWAYS dangerous but also against the law.
But let us play it your way.
Yes, well the way I speed (do it) is not at all dangerous. Just annoying to the campers and blockers and slow pokes; which is my goal.
Actually my goal in speeding isn't to annoy people, cause danger, or get somewhere on time (usually, but not always).
I just don't have time to waste, as I'm a busy guy and have things to do that are more valueable than the extra 3 droplets of gasoline I'll use speeding. As I tell my wife who sometimes reminds me to slow down (if only to avoid getting another ticket), "I'll slow down when I get there!" is my smart response.
that's not true, it is simply the passing lane. If you aren't the fastest traffic on the road, then you are impeding it, and need to move right. Very simple.
Well, not the way I do it. I don't impede law-abiding citizens. Just the random "I don't care what the speed limit is, I'm driving THIS FAST SPEED!" drivers.
Like I said - if you rode with me for a few days you could come to understand the purity of my method and how it is neither illegal nor dangerous.....it's just effective...... :shades: :shades: :shades: :shades: :shades:
It's not illegal in one single state to impede "SPEEDERS."
Like I said - very few judges are gonna let a ticket stand if you were driving the speed limit.
If the "traffic flow" is at an illegal speed, then impeding it is not a crime.
"Authority" as we have it today needs to be en masse brought in front of tribunals, and the bad ones sent to the gallows.
Just when the greatest generation is finally aging off the road, now we have to work with selfish useless obstinate boomers.
V C Section 22400 Minimum Speed Law
Minimum Speed Law
22400. (a) No person shall drive upon a highway at such a slow speed as to impede or block the normal and reasonable movement of traffic, unless the reduced speed is necessary for safe operation, because of a grade, or in compliance with law.
No person shall bring a vehicle to a complete stop upon a highway so as to impede or block the normal and reasonable movement of traffic unless the stop is necessary for safe operation or in compliance with law.
(b) Whenever the Department of Transportation determines on the basis of an engineering and traffic survey that slow speeds on any part of a state highway consistently impede the normal and reasonable movement of traffic, the department may determine and declare a minimum speed limit below which no person shall drive a vehicle, except when necessary for safe operation or in compliance with law, when appropriate signs giving notice thereof are erected along the part of the highway for which a minimum speed limit is established.
Subdivision (b) of this section shall apply only to vehicles subject to registration.
Notice it says, "at such a slow speed." That would never mean the legal speed limit.
That is surely open to judicial interpretation. But I'm pretty sure if I flat out asked a judge, "So, you are saying it's LEGAL for the reasonable traffic flow to be at a level of SPEEDING, but it's not legal for me to drive the SPEED LIMIT in any lane I choose to do so?" what the obvious answer would be. A judge cannot condone speeding.
Just stay in the right lane where you belong, and let actual motorists get on with their lives
I seriously hope a road rager teaches you a lesson you will never forget.
Just keep right, or someone will make you.
Take your loss of 10 seconds of time and move on with life.
Speeding is dumb. Just admit it and move on.
Your passive-agressive idiocy is just "violence" for those who lack the stones to do more.
If you want to be a cop, please go join a force. Otherwise, move right - it works in more developed places than where you live.
Blindly deferring to arbitrary "limits" set by overpaid underworked sucks is stupid, if you want to be stupid, fine, just move over and get out of the way.
Arizona's keep right law is here.
"On all roadways of sufficient width, a person shall drive a vehicle on the right half of the roadway except as follows:
1. When overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction under the rules governing the movement.
2. When the right half of a roadway is closed to traffic while under construction or repair.
3. On a roadway divided into three marked lanes for traffic under the rules applicable on the roadway.
4. On a roadway designated and signposted for one-way traffic.
B. On all roadways, a person driving a vehicle proceeding at less than the normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing shall drive the vehicle in the right-hand lane then available for traffic or as close as practicable to the right-hand curb or edge of the roadway, except when overtaking and passing another vehicle proceeding in the same direction or when preparing for a left turn at an intersection or into a private road or driveway."
Let the cops do the traffic enforcement please.
I have a method which makes it look like I'm not "intentionally" slowing down anyone.
And I'm not usually out and about when most of the drunks are around.
And....did you just say if I die that people should celebrate?
That's fairly harsh, bro........
Well, obviously, if there were enough cops around to do the enforcement, then my little efforts to assist them would be unnecessary....
I have complained to the DPS several times about the particular short stretch of highway I travel (about 3 miles once a day) and they so far are not doing their job.
So.....
Who said anything about drunks? Although maybe you should be called in as one.
We live in a harsh world. Reality is harsh. Less harsh when people can swallow their pride and embrace lane discipline. I speed a lot - although when at home seldom more than 10 or so over. When someone comes up behind me moving faster, I move over as soon as I can and let them go past, then I go on with whatever I was doing, no harm done. I don't know why they are going faster and I don't care. Why is that so bad?
and
"Cut me off as i am speeding, and I will get around you, brake check you, you will careen off the road in your mindless souless blandbox, hopefully to vanish in a fiery explosion down an embankment."
We just need to take the idiots off the road. :sick:
And since you are so adept at psycho-analysis of people you don't know, go ahead and give me the mental rundown on speeders who think the laws don't apply to them, think that the laws of physics don't apply to them, and think that they can do whatever they want, please.
Here’s a sobering thought for left-lane bandits (Wheels.ca).
I spot a speeder in my rear-view, someone weaving through traffic and obviously oblivious to the speed limit.
I SAFELY maneuver my way into their path, casually, so they have to slow down. Then I SAFELY and conveniently slow down or speed up to the speed of the car in the lane beside me, causing a "blockage" but not making it obvious.
(Remember - this is almost always only done on one 3-mile stretch of a 2-3 lane freeway I use in the mornings. Nothing on a 5-8 lane monster freeway. And this freeway has a concrete divider median between it and the oncoming traffic.)
As long as possible, I make it look innocent and accidental. Then as required for SAFETY, I do what it takes to get to my exit lane.
I wish you all could come ride with me and see how I do it. It's not inflammatory in ANY way. But it gets the job done.
I have complained to the DPS several times about the particular short stretch of highway I travel (about 3 miles once a day) and they so far are not doing their job.
It's because the speed limits are set by gov't officials more interested in maximizing revenue than in setting reasonable speed limits. The cops (most of them at least) don't give a crap if your speeding, because it makes their job easier to meet quotas if everyone is doing so. If no one sped, then their job would be much tougher!
You must be one of those vigilante minute men border patrol members too, since they don't do thier "job" either!
What's hilarious is he cited saving gas as a reason to not speed, yet with all the traffic jams due to the domino effect of brake checking and slowing down traffic, he's probably caused TONS more pollution and wasted gas than he has saved.
Enough, let's move on (in the proper lane please!).
Some might attribute it to cluelessness and obliviousness (which is what you are saying you try to make it look like), but the smart one's know that some of these are just actors like you and are doing it on purpose.
I suspected as much for a long time, thanks for confirming my suspicions.
But we really are moving on....
(and other than the Death Wish, I thought it went fairly well !!!)
Radar is ancient technology, and is thus susceptible to errrors and erroneous "spurious" readings.
He may be a mental case with a pistol lying on his front seat.
" Brake Check" a person like that and you might just push him over the edge.
just keep your windows up and a low profile. Unless you're a skilled marksman, it's hard to get a clean head-shot through a closed window. At least, that's what they told us back when we had to contend with the Beltway sniper! :surprise:
Interesting...
Is it because of the reflection of the glass? The glass itself reflecting the bullet path? Hmmm... :confuse:
I think it's a little bit of both. Also, I think it's more than just reflections on the glass, but also refraction, distortion, or whatever they call it. Depending on the curvature of the glass and such, the target inside might not be exactly where they appear to be when viewed from outside. I think it's the same general principle as curved windshields back in the day, and how if you tried looking out the part where it curved the most sharply, it would distort your view.
Regardless of how hard a head shot is to make though, I'd rather not make myself a target!
Vigilante justice!
Been in Hotlanta and surrounding states for 10 days now - issue here isn't LLCs surprisingly enough, but tailgaters, and dare I say, lack of speed enforcement (or reasonable limits). Countless times I have been going 70-75 in a 55 and am being passed by the majority of traffic - albeit on a wide open smooth safe road. The undoubtedly comfortably paid civil engineers here need to rethink their strategies.
I think they quit that when they realized it was just causing traffic to bunch up. Nowadays the only way you get a speeding ticket is if you're blowing by traffic or out there by yourself going into a trap. You're pretty safe just pacing traffic at 5-10 over.
Where I come from the right lane is sometimes the fastest as the dolts loaf in the fast lane and traffic flows around them to the right. It's especially prevalent in Connecticut, a state full of terrible drivers possibly due to the absurdly low limits (state speed limit 55-but don't try that on the Merritt or Wilbur Cross, they'll run right over you!) .
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
Well, back in the 70's, there was an "SS" Version of the Volkwagen Karman-Ghia!
Here in MA, the speed limits on the highways really are just guides. 5-10 over won't get you in trouble. What does get you in trouble is flying past other vehicles or weaving in and out of moderate traffic - basically drawing attention to yourself.
LLC are rare around here. It seems mostly folks that were going right along and then got a phone call. Cell phone use immediately drops speed by 10 mph.