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Toyota Yaris Instrument Panel & Dashboard Problems

SylviaSylvia Posts: 1,636
Toyota Yaris instrument panel, gauges


  • sonatabeansonatabean Posts: 201
    I still hate the center IP on the car, as do the all the car reviewers. Your eye-movement analysis is actually incorrect. Dropping the cornea just 20 degrees is a lot less work from a neuro-motor perspective than dropping, say, 10 degrees and then moving center another 15 to 20.

    From a purely anatomicaly-functional perspective, one eye movement (down) uses only one cranial nerve pathway. The two movements for the center IP use three pathways [down (same as before), rotate in (left eye), rotate out(right eye); if need be, I can specify the pathways AND actuating muscles, too].

    Or, the short version: there is a damn good reason human factors engineers put critical gauges and heads-up-display data DIRECTLY in front of pilots. Namely, quicker read-and-response time.

    BUT - my [non-permissible content removed] about that one annoying point aside (half of which probably derives out of spending 20 years driving cars with gauges in front of me), I really do like the aesthetics of the car quite well (as I noted earlier - I think the S sedan is quite an attractive little car; outside the IP [non-permissible content removed] with the reviewers, (1) the reviewers agree and (2) rate the overall driving experience from decent to outright great).

    Perhaps the problem is I just ain't of the grand-scale-video-game generation (read "over 35") and therefore like my visual input controlled.

    Which is probably a rather nice way of saying, relatively speaking, I'm old.
  • Is it true that the Yaris doesn't have an engine temp gauge?
    I drove a Honda Fit the other day and the lack of an engine temp gauge immediately removed that car from my list! An engine temp gauge is mandatory equipment and in 2006, one shouldn't have to add an aftermarket of such a basic necessity.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,934
    I won't tell you that you don't need a temperature gauge, but consider what they do. When the car starts, they move to a certain spot after a few minutes and sit there, unless there's a problem. When there's a problem, the gauge goes up. Most gauges don't have numbers on them, so you don't know what the temperature actually is--only that the engine is cold, warm (normal operating temp), or above normal (problem). On cars like the Fit, there are indicator lights to tell you when there's a problem with temperature. Don't know about the Yaris however.
  • I had a Subaru GL-10 Wagon many moons ago. That car had everything on it, auto this, auto that, trip computer, inside/outside, temp - all that crap you don't use and don't need.

    So one day, my car just about explodes. Cooling system failure and I cooked it. Problem? Warning light didn't come on. The tow driver just said, "never drive a car without an engine temp gauge."

    Engine temp isn't about knowing what the actual temp is. It's about seeing it every day and seeing it in the same place every day. When you see the car start to run a little hotter, you know something's up. When it gets too hot, you know to pull over. It's a necessity and reason #1 I won't be buying the Fit.
    So, Toyota, are you smarter than Honda? Hope so. Or maybe I can talk the dealer into crediting me for installation of a engine temp gauge.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,934
    You might check out other cars in this class that have a temperature gauge, since that is so important to you.
  • lhansonlhanson Posts: 268
    The Yaris does not have a temperature gauge. It has a warning light that comes on when it overheats. This means; stop immediately and allow the engine to cool before proceeding. It is also noted that the owner's manual claims that the Low Windshield Washer Fluid Level Warning Light "operates to warn that the engine is almost overheating".

    As for you talking your local Toyota Dealer into installing an engine temp gauge at no cost, good luck.
    First of all, you are lucky to even find one on a dealers lot. Second of all, there are probably ten people waiting to buy everyone that comes in a full MSRP. If you are looking for a buyer's market, this is not it. Go get you a Ford Excursion or Chevy Suburban. It will probably have the Temperature Gauge that you want.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,726
    it won't cost the dealership that much to put one in, and Yaris sedans are sitting around on dealer lots a bit more now, and selling under sticker too. It is the hatchbacks that are so impossible to find and disappear off the lot within a day off ariving on the truck.

    Given it is pretty cheap to put in a temp gauge aftermarket, how cheap would it have been for Toyota to include one at the factory? But of course with the center gauge cluster, it would have been one more thing to cram in a fairly small space. Honda is more at fault here, IMO, since they have a regular gauge cluster in the Fit, and the temp gauge would have easily fit next to the fuel gauge where it normally sits on most cars.

    2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)

  • wave54wave54 Posts: 211
    I'm going to side with a temp gauge as essential on even low-end cars. You get to know what the normal temperature is and if it deviates even slightly, you have the opportunity to check fluid levels or for leaks before being stranded in no-man's-land.

    By the time a warning light comes on, it means stops -- NOW!!

    Sorry, but they're called "idiot lights" for a reason.
  • bws2bws2 Posts: 7
    We just purchased a 2007 Yaris Liftback and we love this car! It was great to finally buy a 2 door Toyota with some personality to it. When I went to the dealership, I fully expected to leave with a Corolla or maybe a used Camry but saw the liftback and was sold on it immediately. I thought I'd hate the way the panel is in the middle of the dash, (was even expecting to not buy the Yaris because of it), but when I drove the Yaris I literally never even questioned the instrument panel placement. Frankly, the placement seems quite natural there and I later wondered why I ever even liked the panel being behind the steering wheel on all of our previous cars. This is a great little car and I feel so blessed to have even found a liftback on the lot.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,726
    this is only one of many models that don't have one. Chevy Cobalt, VW New Beetle, yes Fit and Yaris, and now the new Volvo S80, weighing in at about $25K or more base price. Cobalt is not the only GM car without a temp gauge either.

    In the age of computer-controlled-EVERYTHING under the hood, temp gauges are going away ladies and gentlemen.....

    2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)

  • I just ran our new 3 door lift back out of gas on the freeway. The Police got me a gallon to at least get me to a gas station withing 15 minutes. But I am worried. My husband ran his Taurus out of gas and it caused the fuel pump to burn out and it cost us almost $600.00! The Yaris started right up but does anyone know how bad I hurt it by running it dry? I'm scared to tell him but know I have to. I have never done anything like this before and i swear I never would have if that speedometer cluster was IN FRONT OF ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Thanks for any help,
  • I don't know whether you did any damage, but I do know that when the last bar on the fuel gauge starts flashing, you have 1 gallon of gas left. Maybe I'm just weird, but the flashing sure gets my attention! And even though I know I can go at least 30 miles with 1 gallon, I'm searching for the nearest station just to stop the blinking! (BTW--I love the center cluster & the driver's side glove box!)
  • Running out of gas should not cause your fuel pump to burn out. I'm not saying that it didn't, but that would be a symptom of either a defective part or defective design. I doubt that it damaged your Yaris at all. Stop worrying and stop trying to reenact old Seinfeld episodes! :D

    "(BTW--I love the center cluster & the driver's side glove box!)"

    Us too!!
  • No idea what the Seinfeld comment means! But the Yaris is in the shop at my Toyota dealership and probably does need a new pump. Running bad and acting like it's running out of gas. Service manager says the pump will "cavitate" when it sucks for gas that isn't there, often burning itself out. So really hope you enjoy that glove box! Going to cost me hundreds of dollars. When it's fixed, will be trading it for something that places the gauges in FRONT OF THE DRIVER!
  • I don't think it takes much to adapt to the location of the gauges. Certainly, that center location could serve as a convenient excuse for driver inattention, though.

    You made your point. You hate -- really, really, hate -- the location of the speedo and gauges.
  • It is just an excuse possibly yet in 50 years of driving "regular" cars, I have never run out of gas. NEVER! The biggest surprise was my husband. I assumed it would be the worst fight in over 40 years of marriage yet when I told him, all he cared about was I didn't get killed when I was stuck in the fast lane of the freeway. I was completely off guard by his concern for me instead of the car.

    The 2nd biggest reason I am selling this car no matter how much I lose is the cheapness. I get off work and it is dark out. I get into the car, start it, turn on the lights. While the floor shifter (auto trans) is lit up, there is NO GEAR "INDICATOR" to tell me what gear I am IN! Just plain stupid and cheap the more I drive it. I test drove a Hyundai Accent that was so much nicer and better equipped but I wanted the Toyota reliability. Not any more.
  • I agree with you that there should be a lighted gear indicator in the automatic versions of the Yaris. Of course, I'm getting a 5-speed manual, so I don't need to worry about that glitch.

    It is an economy car. Inexpensive for Toyota to build, and inexpensive for the owner to operate. It may have less features than what most Americans have come to expect.

    In my view, the Yaris liftback offers American drivers in 2007 essentially the same thing (albeit with more sophisticated technology) that the VW Beetle offered American drivers in 1960: economy, reliability, simplicity, durability. On that level, it seems to me that the Yaris succeeds.

    (Remember, the VW had only a speedo and a fuel gauge, and it came with a lousy heater, but we all loved it anyway. It was a hit.)

    You could have picked the Accent... but then you would have gotten much worse real-world MPG and a build quality that's (still) inferior to the Toyota (not to mention less in projected resale value). But yeah, the Accent certainly comes with more bells and whistles. I gave the Accent SE hatch a serious look before deciding on the Yaris.
  • Toyota reliability and that darned "cute" look of the hatch back were my down fall. The Yaris looked like it was smiling at me. NOW I know it was really just LAUGHING at me. :)
  • Bummer.... Well, the burned out fuel pump thing is news to me. I've never heard of such a thing until now. (I'm going to have to look up "cavitate.") I've had cars kind of sputter and jerk when running out of gas before, but never had any damage result from it. Must be this great, new "high technology."

    The reference to Seinfeld was the episode where Kramer had taken a car out to rent, or test drive or something (can't recall the exact scenario), and he and the representative at the dealership decided to see how far they could drive the car on "E". It was a very funny episode.

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  • The cavitation was explained as the pump (inside the gas tank) doing like a straw in a soda bottle when you hit bottom. The gas is in fact, the "lubricant" for the pump. When it runs dry, it literally can burn itself up when it starts sucking "air".
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,726
    It's not the "lubricant", but it IS the coolant. The large tank of cool gas the pump is sitting in dissipates the heat the pump is generating. Running dry, the pump will quickly overheat and probably damage itself, just as it appears yours has done. Sorry to hear the news. :-(

    2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)

  • Just received my Liftback and like it so far. The auto transmission seems quite sophisticated, like it knows what's going on and acts accordingly.
    I noticed the rear seat back has several little patches of a picture of the rear seat with an anchor. Is it telling me that I can remove the rear seat and stow it in or out of the car?
    Also, my owner's manual I received is for the Sedan. Do they have a manual for just the Liftback?
  • I have a Automatic Sedan and the Gear Indicator is just left of the speedometer. I always know what gear I am in. Maybe there are ones without on different Yaris's?

    I keep track of my Gas Milage on my phone (PPC), so I am always looking at how much gas I have.

    Every pump is differnt. The fuel could be the lubricant and the coolent. Just like a submersibale water pump, the water is the lubricant.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,726
    Those patches identify the LATCH points where you connect a child car seat.

    2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)

  • Liftback has NO indicator to tell driver what gear is engaged.....
  • No indicator? Or no LIGHTED indicator?

    It's a moot point if you get a manual trans model.
  • How dumb ARE you? It's an auto trans, lighted, lift back. It has NO GEAR SELECTED "indicator".....
  • Personal attacks aside, I think you're making a federal case out of a minor point.

    There certainly are markings near the shift lever to indicate what gear you're in. I think what you're saying is that those indicators are not backlighted.

    So what? You can tell the gear selected by feel (once you know the gear order) or you can pop the overhead light on for a second to check visually.

    This is obviously a make-or-break point with you; it evidently has ruined your Yaris driving experience. Oh well.

    Again, I'm glad I ordered a manual transmission model; it sure beats going insane over gear indicators...
  • Thanks. I had a feeling that was a stupid question.
  • On the liftback there is no lighted indicator in the instrument cluster that reports what position the automatic trans shift lever is in. While that can be a nice convenience, we got by for many years without that, in fact I've never owned a car that had it. You have to understand in advance that the Yaris is an entry level car and you're not going to have every bell and whistle. The indicator at the shift lever shows the various gear positions. During the daylight it generally does not need to be lit. That indicator is backlit, however, when you turn on the headlights.

    I can understand being upset if you're car was damaged due to running out of gas. But, I don't think you can blame the car because you ran it out of gas. I do think, however, that it would make more sense to build the instrument cluster in such a way that the gas guage is on the same side of the cluster as the steering wheel. I mean it's not like the Yaris gets such great of gas mileage that the clock is more important than the gas gauge. ;)
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