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FOR A BRAND NEW SAPPHIRE BLUE VERSA HATCHBACK!!
... why? my aftermarket sunroof screwed up my headliner...
yeah... so I was finally getting consistent 33m/g and now I get to start all over again...
But I've got one-touch sunroof, audio package, and Sirius.
It does seem to me that most car makers are pushing relatively small gains in performance at the cost of more substantial gains at the pump. I would gladly trade 10% of my hp for 10% better mpg. Both my cars are quicker than they need to be, but gas keeps going up.
Again, I don't think the Versa is bad, just that there seems to be potential for it to be so good. Potential that is not being realized.
I didn't want to spend lots of $ modding a car with a crappy headliner... so I spent lots of $ getting a new car with a correct headliner...
some people juggle geese... (--Wash, Firefly)
It is paradoxical. The Versa (Tiida) was originally designed for an 1.5 L engine, and in the world ex-Americas, that is the standard engine still. And the 1.5 does get a good mileage, if a little slow due to the bulk of the Versa (Tiida).
I know that Nissan decided to throw in the 1.8 L because they were afraid of being accused of selling a slow car. What they really should have done is to bring the younger brother of the Versa, the NOTE, with the 1.5 L engine, to the North American market. The NOTE gets at least 10% better mileage, is pretty quick with 1.5 because it is much lighter than the Versa, and, while not as spacious as the Versa, it is still plenty roomy, and in fact, much more versatile in the seat arrangements (because it is a Fit-wannabe).
Just curious about your "city" - is that a true downtown/neighborhood traffic where you have to stop, e.g., every few blocks and your mean speed never gets much higher than, say, 20 mph? Or is it really suburban?
I am just curious, that's all. When people say "city," they mean a lot of different things. When I say city, it is pure stop and go, since we live in a major metropolitan area with millions of people with lousy traffic conditions.
Yikes, for you I was kinda hoping that your driving conditions were pure downtown (type) trafic, in which case a low MPG would be more or less normal. I don't know what to tell you....
Flightnurse, thanks. I live in Minneapolis-St. Paul, and in the morning our freeways are parking lots. We live in-town, not in a suburb, so there is a stop sign or traffic light every few blocks when driving "city."
Ron
Looks at other people's posts over the last year.
What's your typical driving day like?
Something has to explain a number that low, because I would REALLY have to work at it to kill the mileage that much based on the experience I've had with my Versa.
So I'm back to wondering about driving style forced by driving conditions. Say I was using my Versa to deliver a coupleof hundred newspapers house to house each day. An extreme example, but the kind of thing that would probably get my mileage a lot lower. Or if I lived in NYC and was using it to get around, I can't imagine I'd get anywhere near the sticker numbers.
The answer almost HAS to be drving conditions. :confuse:
I'm just curious whether lanny can find a near-ideal condition to drive in, which would be a flat terrain, a speed of, say, 55 mph constantly, which can continue for an hour. Everyone could agree that such a driviing condition should produce a good MPG. If lanny's car did not, we would have a very likely answer (mechanical).
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There doesn't seem to be any justification for the low mpg.
It's not like it is particularly powerful and sporty either.
I have been reading all the post from different people on here about the mpg. Well I can tell you that it really depends on how and where you drive. I have had my Versa SL CVT for 8 months now. It has 23K on it. I drive mainly highway driving. But this is through a major City to get to where I am going. I drive from Homestead Florida to Ft. Lauderdale. 62 miles distance each way. It takes me about 1.5 hours to get there and 45 minutes of it is in bumper to bumper driving. That is 1/2 the time I am driving.
Now I drive normal in my view I don't jack rabbit start. I always drive with windows closed (Car gets allot better MPG with them closed). Highway when it's clear I go at 65MPH.
I have been getting over 32 mpg mostly combined. When My wife drives the car she only is able to get about 27 mpg. She has what I call a in and out foot. When your in the car you feel her go fast then slow, fast then slow. I call it hunting. It's very bad for gas usage.
On a 675 total miles trip to Orlando I got 36.8 mpg going mostly at 70. So in my view it's the best over all car for gas usage I have owned. And I have had Accords, Corolla and even an VW Bug. None of them gives me the room and road feel like the Versa. It's also gets better mpg then all the others. I have no idea how you can get over 23mpg on an Accord in the city. Highway I got 27 sometimes.
I feel you need to look at the way you drive and if the tires are at least 33 psi yes that is 33psi. I have seem many people put them at 28 to 30. This will waste gas in this car.
Hope this helps...It's a very good car.
25 mpg is pretty good mileage for most cars, but is bad for a car of this size and class.
VERY happy so far especially since it only cost me $28 to fill it up tonight!!
Thought I would miss the minivan, having 2 small children, but $28 sure beats the $50 (to the tune of 20 mpg)it would have cost me to fill the van!
Plus, now I have a good reason not to be able to car pool!!
Most of the highway was at 75 mph+ with the AC on.
246 miles, 6.99 gallons, 35.1 mpg
Was the first time I really got to test a strictly highway run, so I'm pleased
It has the updated, more conservative mileage figures based on more aggressive modern drivin, more air con usage.
Lanny said he drives 95% city with airon on.
I "customized" the EPA ratings to reflect this percentage of city driving.
Result? EPA predicts 24 mpg combined city/highway.
Lanny reports 23.
Looks like he's like the rest of America.
Lighter footed drivers who spend more time on the freeway can meet or exceed the revised EPA mileage figures. I know. I do.
I'm guessing that if I had been able (or wanted to :P ) back down into the 55-60 mph range, of if I had been able to run with no AC, I would see a bit more mileage.
OK, 2nd fill up. 80% city, 20% highway. 27mpg. Lookin good.
David
Tony
Now this talk about Honda and Toyota vs Nissan. Both the Honda and Toyota dealers here in town have one way to sell cars, with pressure. I have no idea why, since the car should sell itself..
Over the six months with by CVT SL, I have averaged 28 mpg for my commute. The lowest I ever measured was 26.5, which included a lot of city driving and slow moving high density traffic. I haven't had a chance to try the car on a long trip. The mpg has improved an average of 1 mpg since it was new, but I don't know how much of that change is due to break-in versus "getting the hang" of driving with the CVT.
For calibration purposes, I should point out that I live in an area with high traffic density, closely spaced traffic lights and 4-way stop signs, steep hills, and relatively high highway speeds. Using the same driving patterns, I have gotten 22 mpg with a 2004 VW Golf auto, 20 mpg with a BMW 3-series auto (premium fuel), and 15 mpg with an old Audi 100 auto (premium fuel), which we thankfully sold before gas prices went through the roof. I used to get 24 mpg with an 88 Saab 9000 Turbo (160 HP) with 5-speed and premium fuel. Neighbors with hybrids report mpgs in the 30's.
Years ago, I had an 88 Civic with a manual 5-speed transmission and no AC; the car weighed something like 2000 lbs. Living in the same neighborhood, the best I could get was 29 mpg.
I test drove the automatic transmission versions of the Honda Fit and Toyota Yaris and found them too underpowered to be viable. They are fine on flat earth, but their small engines are nearly red-lined just to slowly accelerate up a steep freeway on-ramp. I don't think that I have ever seen my Versa's rpm above 4500.
I think that it is important to realize that the Versa isn't that small nor that low-powered. The 28 mpg that I obtain isn't going to save the planet, but it is a good result for driving under conditions that are not at all favorable to obtaining high gas mileage.