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Tony :shades:
Tony
I'm averaging 30MPG on 5 fill ups...three of which were during long mostly highway driving. Here are the results (I calculate based on the miles driven after fillup divided by gallons it takes to fill it up):
City, Highway, MPG
70% 30% 25.5
20% 80% 32.3
40% 60% 27.9
20% 80% 31.1
10% 90% 32.4
So, it's as expected from all the chatter of this forum...the 36 MPG of the EPA rating seems pretty tough to achieve...but even during my road trips, there were some stopped up traffic and a little city driving, so it doesn't reflect what a purely road trip w/ no AC, and keeping it under 70MPH would do...I bet going 60-65 on a major highway on a tank of gas would yield results very close to 36MPG...
Anyway, that's it...
Most people can achieve highway ratings on most cars on any long road trip without a huge amount of effort.
I see more people struggling to get near the EPA highway ratings with this Versa than any other car model I read about on this board.
Oh, and I did have it taken to the dealer ship and checked out where they plugged in a computer and since the car said everything was fine no other investigation could be done.
In theory I should get the same difference in millage on the Fit as I do on the Versa, being that the Driving conditions and driving habits would be the same.
I will post back ocassionally.
Btw, some one emntioned http://www.fueleconomy.gov/
I am the person that posted the lowest milage (TX). I will update soon for my more recent milage. I would strongly encourage everyone to use the site to record their milage, only with a larger sampling can a trend be found.
Since we already have a proven gas sipper in the Fit, the Versa can be our comfort vehicle of choice.
Oh, by the way, you wrote above that the Fit does not come with CVT. That is true here, but in Japan, 97% of the Fit is CVT. In fact, the JDM Fit was all CVT for over four years until 5MT was added to a sport trim. It's a good CVT - I personally wish we could have the same with the NA Fit.
Tony
As for my driving habits, I drive 75 to 80 on the highway (but with the CVT, you can go 80mph and still be at 2500 rpms) and because I drove a manual previous, I am used to releasing the gass pedal in advance of stops and coasting when possible (but the CVT controls your decent when going downhill automatically which is a mixed blessing). I refrain from "quick starts" whenever possible, and I try to not drag the rpms too high (gradual increases in speed).
The biggest differences in mpgs is going to be the style of transmission (with the 4 speed automatic suffering the most).
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But I'm averaging 31 combined, since most of my driving is 45 MPH and higher, I usally stay below 70.
I'm happy with the MPG
Tony :shades:
Is your car past the break in period? The head service guy was telling me that the gas mileage will improve after the break in period and again after the first service... My last vehicle got 25-28 mpg so I've got no complaints with this vehicle (but my first little subaru got 40 mpg so I know how that feels, and it is a good feeling).
-- cheers!
Tony
Tony
NOT
More accurate to say that they both have good & bad points, but the versa is not better by "far"
The ironic thing is that the Honda to compare it to for mpg is not the Fit, but the Accord.
Tony
My first long trip was from Phoenix to Amarillo which took me from an elevation of around 1000 feet to over 7000 feet. I was determined to get 400 miles or more on a single tank like the advertisement said. I did it, but I must confess, out on Route 40 near Windslow AZ, is not the place to take it to the limit. The orange low fuel indicator was on for about 40 miles and I think I drifted drove into the station on fumes. It actually took 13.2 gals to fill it up. Whew!
Bottom line, I love the car. I'm working in San Jose California, and am not getting the mileage, I did on that trip. I've driven and worked all around the USA as a communications contractor.
Here are some other factors to consider when computing your mileage.
1. The temperature: When it's cold out the air is denser thus the wind resistance is greater. result..lower mileage in winter than summer. Not only the temperature, the humidity makes a difference as well.
2. The Wind direction: Whether you're driving from east to west or west to east. The prevailing winds are from west to east, so you will get better mileage driving east than west.
3. Your geographic location: The oil companies actually change the formula for gasoline sold in different parts of the country depending on the state, the elevation, the climate, etc.
I remember an automobile manufacture was quoting a MPH on a vehicle when it was discovered by more investigation they drove the car from Pikes Peak which is 7000 feet to LA which is 10 feet elevation. Yeah right! That's average.
Interesting point on the Fit's demographics. They found the same thing on the Element as well. Does that mean Honda is becoming an old-persons car? Just kidding.....
Tony
It was horrible I say, 4 feet of sunshine to shovel to get my car out of the garage...
http://www.mpt.org/motorweek/longterm/versa07.shtml
They can keep on "expecting," but based on what people are posting here, not likely to go much higher.
Sad for an economy car of this type.
I keep saying this, the Versa is a new type of Sub-Compact car, one that is VERY roomy, and have options that aren't aviable on other cars yet. The ride and comfort do not say Economy car..
Tony
It's dumb that dealers have Versas on their lots with Bluetooth and Inteligent Key with keyless ignition, but you can't buy one with ABS.
Lack of ABS availability (even though listed as an option in the brochures) is something common in economy cars like Versa and Yaris.
I Perfer to have bluetooth then ABS, since I use my phone for work, I dont have to have something in my ear or holding my phone to my ear...
To each thier own...
Tony
You can buy a car with ABS and without Bluetooth and then add Bluetooth aftermarket if you really want it. The reverse is not true.
The fuel economy of the Versa is poor when it is difficult to even achieve even the minimal city rating even with mixed driving containing some highway driving.
Aftermarket Bluetooth is just as good as those aftermarket sunroofs that leak... Not worth much..
Tony
There are plenty of Versa owners complaining about less than expected MPG and the Motorweek test adds to this.
Aftermarket bluetooth works fine. There are very simple systems that are rechargable and simply clip on to the sun visor
and have 10 hours of talk time and days of standby time.
Here is a video: http://portal.vpod.tv/parrot/30540/videoPlayer/fs/autoPlay/7
all the way to hardwired systems that integrate with your car stereo system and can even wireless play the mp3s on your cell phone through your audio system like in this video:
http://portal.vpod.tv/parrot/28114/videoPlayer/fs/autoPlay/0
In looking for answers on all the Versa Forums, I must say that low MPG numbers are creating a LOT of nasty comments.
First off, the EPA numbers are so out to lunch on this one, that no amount of fudging and fumbling with the numbers on the window are going to make it so.
The Versa just doesn't do it, break in or not.
The EPA testing is a really bad joke anyway..a computer reads the exhaust out of the tail pipe of the car running in a building on a dynamometer, it does not check the actual mile per gal of gas used in this brief unreal-world test.
Read the fine print on the window sticker..."your mileage may vary" No kidding, I didn't buy my Versa to run on a dynomomter in a closed building hooked to a computer up its tailpipe, and neither did anyone else! Some Cars actually come close to the EPA numbers tho, but the Versa out on the open road, runs like the wind. Try to keep it down to 60 mph for a MPG test...good luck on that. the Versa is so serene on the road that 60 mph seems like you are standing still.
So far I have tinkered with adding a magnetic oil drain plug on the first dump of oil, a chrome grill, tailpipe, and door handles.
Still to come, gold pin striping, auto dimming, compass temp mirror, Vent Visors (a must for the big side windows and short Sunvisors), Fog Lights and sheepskin seatcovers.
Please use the 'Slideshow' feature when you view my Versa items below.
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Niels
The Versa is not a economy car, I don't mind the 28-30 MPG to me the Versa is light years ahead of any car in its class..
Tony
They accurately keep and report mileage
They "tell" everyone what great mileage they get regardless of the truth
Honest people on every forum complain of their mileage. I went to the Fit forum and found the same thing. The EPA tests are unrealistic of real-world conditions and under revision. I take ANY report of MPG with a grain of salt - I have a co-worker who swears his 2005 V8 Dodge Durango gave him 26 MPG on his summer vacation. Based on this we can all save the planet driving Durangos. But somehow, I believe he doesn't keep up with MPG and saw his digital indicator hit 26 on some sort of roadway.
Though it is early (2700 miles so far) with my Yaris Sedan with manual transmission, I have not recorded a single tank below 36.5 mpg. On just 2 about all highway tanks, I have gotten between 41 and 42.
It just seems the Versa folks seem ready to throw a party if they get a single tank that is above 30. To have similar results to what I have experienced with my Yaris, how many get 32 to 33 in mixed driving and get 34-38 on highway trips with the manual or CVT transmissions on the Versa?
We have never gotten more MPG than the EPA rating in ANY vehicle so maybe I'm jaded. What vehicles did you look at before purchasing the YAris?
I liked a lot about the Civic and Fit, but the Civic was a little more than I wanted to pay. The Fit had a lot of utility advantages over the Yaris, but the Yaris was more available and had a seat height adjuster, dead pedal, and center armrest. The slightly better fuel economy and the fact that the Yaris was available at invoice pushed me toward it. If the Fit had the extra features and was actually readily available with a manual transmission in Sport trim, I probably would be driving a Fit. The Corolla's seating position was uncomfortable, did not have a audio auxillary input, and was just a little too boring for me.
The Versa is the largest, but the mileage reports turned me off pretty quickly. The looks reminded me too much of a junior version of the Nissan Quest (not that the Fit or Yaris are beauties), and there also was a lack of cars with ABS.
I liked the Mazda3, but the want of better fuel economy turned me away there also.