Frontier vs Ranger - II

mmcbride1

Even you have to admit Vinny is worthless when it comes to debating anything. He's the only one we have a problem with, not people who will actually talk about the pros and cons of trucks HONESTLY.

cthompson21

Hey, haven't seen you round in a while. Guess you're ducking under all of this mudslinging too, huh?

I actually wanted to bring up the point about the Ranger brakes you talked about a while back. You had said that they were awful with extra-long stopping distances. I had just thought that to be absolutely false. My '98 reg-cab 4-wheel-ABS can stop on a dime, much better than any truck I've ever driven.

Well, a couple of weeks ago I drove my pop's truck for a day. He's got a '99 ext-cab 4-wheel-ABS truck with a cap on it. So, the only differences are pretty much an ext-cab and a cap. Anyways, I'll tell ya that I thought its brakes were not good at all. If I owned that truck, I'd get a rear disc brake upgrade immediately. I'd guess a lot of it has to do with the extra weight of the ext-cab and the cap, but I'd never guess it to make that much of a difference.

Just thought I'd share some of my Ranger real world braking experience.

-C

cthompson21

After seeing all of this talk about engine mods, I'd just like to bring up a point.

The OHV 4L is one helluva platform for engine mods. Ford hasn't done much at all to bring out this engine's potential.

Throw about $500 at it and run premium gas (as required by a chip), and you're around 200hp and and 260ft/lbs. You just need a cat-back exhaust, Superchip, and air induction kit.

Then, go with some headers, a high-flow cat, a bigger TB, a bigger MAF, an MSD ignition, and some performance wires. This will be about another $1000 investment.

Now, you've got a truck with around 250hp and 300ft/lbs (my own rough estimates). Plus, you haven't used anything but reliable bolt-on mods. Also, you've only improved gas mileage and overall drivability.

You can jump on the highway and get 25mpg. You still have that low-end torque for pulling that boat (sleds in my case) with ease.



If any of you are wondering, I'm stuck at stage one right now. I've got the cat-back and KKM Tru-Rev Kit. I'm waiting until the end of the warranty (sometime next summer) to add the chip. What I'll do next? I'm not sure, but I sure love modding my rides. I'd do it to any vehicle I owned, no matter how weak or strong the factory vehicle was.

A little word of advice to all of you modders out there, don't get married. I can attest to the fact that a wife love to shoot down your next aftermarket purchase. Lately, she keeps bringing up that "You just bought a new snowmobile go out in the garage and sit on it" argument.

;^D



-Colin

mahimahi

That's why I was asking where the rest of you are. I get sick of seeing just Vince and as long as he's the only one on here I'm going to shut him down and rag on him because I am thinking that the rest of you aren't participating or wanting to. So to me it's open season on Vinny the Kitty. So since he was getting beat down I got bored and wanted more from the discussion, something more informative and reasonable. That's why I was asking where you guys were. You know that you and I have had good conversations even if I'm slinging mud at Vinny the Kitty. Plus you know that I'm not against any mods and I think you know what our point is about the last few comments and that they were directed at the Kat and his rationale.

Also, I wanted to ask you if you have any experience with floor liner mats. I was looking at the Husky Liner mats for my frontier. As I have noted the carpet that Nissan put in is so light that I worry about stains and so forth. Also, when I get into the truck after loading the boat my shoes or feet are dripping with saltwater. So it would be nice to keep it out of the carpet, which would soak it up and eventually rust the floor boards. The question I have is the floor on the Ranger is it flush with the door sill?, the Frontier is and I woory about dragging my foot across it getting in and out..constantly moving it.
Also, I'm not married but I FULLY understand about the mods I have a girlfriend of 2 1/2 years. Everything is a question why do you need that it's brand new? They just don't understand...same thing with tools too.

cncman

Cthompson;
Yea, I haven't seen much worth responding to on either side, and noone really listens to me anyway! Actually there have been very few posts I have read since I installed the V chip on my computer! I understand wanting to do mods to certain vehicles, I am throwing money down a hole called a 77 280z! I plan to tune the suspension mostly, I have been going back and forth between redoing the 2.8l and maybe dropping a 350 in it or perhaps a later 280z turbo engine in it. Also been busy at work, I am completely out of 2001 Xterras and have the entire next truckload coming in already sold, I am getting great response on the new frontiers, especially when people see the prices really haven't gone up, I already have placed an order for a loaded CC with the SC. Well, back to the games!

cthompson21

For all of you power-hungry folk out there, even the long-lived OHV 4L has got the potential.

With all of the previously mentioned bolt-ons in conjunction with a supercharger (ala Vortec, Paxton, or BBK) you can actually achieve an output exceeding 300hp and 350ft/lbs.

Just don't forget to bolster those trannies. The Ranger trannies can handle the second level of performance I mentioned but will have a short life with hp near and exceeding 300 ponies.

Just keep in mind that everything I've discussed is bolt-on. It requires no engine disassembly whatsoever.

cthompson21

Glad to see things are going good for ya.

I've got so many projects running right now that I haven't got any idea which hole to throw my money into.

I'm busy restoring a pair of older Yamaha snowmobiles. Go figure. I'll have my Wisconsin snowmobiles (the late-model, hi-po sleds for tearing up the lakes), and I'll have my Illinois sleds (the older, lighter, ditchbangers). Bless my wife for not killing me yet! (Don't forget that I love to play with my Ranger and SVTour, hehehe!).

For your 280Z, why not one of the 1.3L rotary turbos out of a '93-'95 RX7? How's that for 255hp and 280ft/lbs out of 1.3L!!! Maybe you can tell that I've been checking out the possibility of a third vehicle lately? Oh man! The wifey is gonna wanna kill me!!!

cthompson21

Yep, the doorsill is flush with the floor. Yep, it gets dirty (I've got light grey interior too). Get some weathertech floormats, the kind you see the big page ads in the car rags. They're custom fit, match perfect, hold lots of water/snow/dirt, and are super easy to clean. I've got a pair, and it's $50 well spent.

Speaking of floormates, does the Frontier come with them? The Ranger doesn't even have them as an option. Go fig. Dealer add on?

I've never really quite understood what you guys and Vince are arguing about. I think you guys are trying to debate points that the other side doesn't even care about. Oh well, whatever you guys wanna do...

2.5 years huh? Well, I've got 8 with my wifey now. They get to the point where they understand, but they're never gonna like it!

:oD

gooba

I sure wish Nissan or anyone else would have offered an air locker for the front diff.That will be one for after the warranty runs out.
Iguess I am one of the lucky ones.Next month will be 20yrs for me,and she is still my best friend.If I want to get something she tells me to get it.She looks for tools just like me and helps me on the cars.She usually has ideas for projects and is just as enthusiatic as I am.So, I do feel for you guys and thank my lucky stars.
As far as vince goes,I guess it best to forget about him.
cncman,I left a post on the other board,I hope you will be able to find out it there is a TSB on the Frontier carrier bearing.

mahimahi

Yeah I looked at the weather tech, do they come in any other color than black? I'm afraid that might be to much of a contrast with the light grey. But I guess if I go with the black I wouldn't be tempted to clean it all the time. I'll check them out closer.

No the Nissan doesn't come with them but, conveniently they are a mere $79.00, whatever I wasn't leaving the lot until they threw those in. I mean my god, we're talking year 2000 what vehicle doen't come with floor mats by now? So I forced my salesman to throw them in They were in the truck in a box and after he pulled the sticker off as I was going to leave, he tried to take the mats out saying I didn't pay for them. Like I said I ended up with the mats, for nothing!

Congrats, on the 8 years. Yeah, I understand what your're saying. Mine is worried already about football season...hehehe and it's only preseason, and FSU's first game is Aug.26 I'm going to have to sneak the mods little by little on. She didn't notice the hitch for about 2wks(I was only in the dog house for 1 night for that one) I want to get the bed extender, so little by little I mention it here and there and when there are instances that it could help I really push the idea.

The Vince thing is just an extracurricular activity. It would be ashame if somebody shopping a truck actually listened to his rationale.

mahimahi

Go to www.4x4parts.com I think that they offer a ARB locker for the Frontier. Scroll down the page. There's an awesome looking grill guard.

I'm mostly kidding about my girlfriend, she's in Law School and just doesn't want to spend the money But for me I love this truck so much that I like to do little stuff to it and she keeps telling me that's not going to be mine in the end.

cncman

CT;
It is most likely I will stick with the 2.8l, it is such a bullet proof engine and if I want, I can drop some new parts in there easilly and add 20-40hp, I am actually more interested in enhancing the handling, thinking about maybe scca competition, good luck with the snowmobiles, I spent alot of weekends in the chicago suburbs forest preserves flying by the seat of my pants on one my friend built, don't know what he did, but I never opened it up all the way, too scared!

Yea, I always thought they should just include the $79 floormats in the price of the vehicle, we end up giving them away anyways, I think that is just so it lowers the base price for advertising.

Gooba;
I haven't heard of anything, which frontier? what is the problem you are having? I am off today, but I can ask tomorrow. Have you brought it in to the dealer?

My girlfriend is pretty cool about my project, she actually helps me work on it, (and not just handing me tools!) She used to work at brake check and can usually teach me a thing or two! God I love her! Her only complaint is that she can't park her car in the garage until I finish up with the Z car.

gooba

I have a 2000 CC 4x4 XE w/auto trans and LSD.On some of the other boards it was brought up about the rubber coming out of the carrier bearing on the driveshaft.I checked mine and sure enough the lower part of the rubber had popped out.Most of these other people have said that they have had the carrier bearing replaced and others have had the driveshaft assembly replaced along with the carrier bearing replaced.It was mentioned that there was a TSB from Nissan on this problem.I have inquired these people and nobody seems to have seen it.Some of these people have had multiple replacements of the driveshaft assy and carrier bearings.
I took mine to my local Nissan dealer and was told that it was paint coming off.After I got the Service Manager and asked them to show me the paint,they put it back on the lift and they showed me some paint coming off the driveshaft.I then pointed out the rubber sticking out from the carrier bearing.They said that they had seen alot of them and did nothing about it.They thought it was normal.They said that they would contact the Nissan Tech line and ask about it.After a week they said that Nissan said to replace the carrier bearing and did not know about others having the same failure.The Nissan dealer said that they would have to order the part.It has now been a week and still no contact.
If there is a TSB,I would like to be able to refer to it when I go to get my truck fixed.

cygnusx1

I don't really think there is a TSB for this. And if your dealer gives you a rough time about replacin git, tell them to F off and go to another dealer. They'll put a whole new driveshaft in for you if you get the right kind of service. I've heard of this happening on only a select few vehicles. Basically, that little rubber piece look slike it wants to pop out. But instead of just fixing that - for some reason they order a whole new driveshaft. Dunno why, but they do. Also, there are twoi styles of that rubber piece in the carrier, a one piece round one and a three-prong style (looks like the symbol for radiation you see on fallout shelter signs). I think the problem seems to be with the 3-prong style. The bottom prong can pop out and cause the drive shaft to have an inch or two of play.

gooba

Mine is a 3 piece.Mine did pop out,A piece at the very bottom about an inch wide.I thought about going to another dealer,but the closest is 180 miles away.I may still do that if I do not get satisfaction.

cthompson21

Sticking with the 2.8 sounds like the best way to go. A friend of mine races in the SCCA events. He used to have a lot of fun dueling with the Z cars in his class (he stepped up to a Formula Firebird these days). Good luck. Restorations can sometimes be a drag when progress is slow. Just keep on plugging.

If you really want some speed, head up to Wis and take a muscle sled out on the lake. Mine will hit triple digits, and it's only a 500cc twin. It's considered average for a sled these days. Just imagine what those 1000cc triples will do!

I'm just lucky that my wife loves snowmobiling as much as I do. Her only problem is that she needs to learn to settle down with the excess speed. She'll take any sled she rides right to its top end and complains it's not fast enough! So, I've got her riding a 380cc fan-cooled twin this year to slow her down. Top speed of about 75mph on a chilly day (below zero).

cygnusx1

CT, out of curiosity, where do you all snow mobile. I really don't know squat about it, but I do watch the races on ESPN now and then. Looks fun, but there's not enough snow in the East here to make it worthwhile for me to invest in a snowmobile (I stick to boats instead). Is there a track where you all ride or is just wide open country?

scape2

Man I hate AOL! got disconnected right at the end of a good post.
I can't believe the hypochrites in this room. You all say my posts are terrible, don't mean a thing, bashing and so on.. take a look at your own sometime. I posted links, reviews and sites to show you just how inferior your Frontiers are to the present Ranger. I pissed you guys off, I knew I would. I can't wait to see a new 2001 Ranger just absolutely smoke your precious LOL! Fronter...
Also, the twisting of words once again. I NEVER said my Ranger looses power with the A/C on. I said it looses mpg. NOT POWER. Somthing you Nissan owners just wish you had.
Torque, it is so obvious you Nissan guys know nothing about torque. It continues to show over and over again. TORQUE is what real truck owners are after and look at the HP vs Torque curve. Although a 4.0 Ranger may now put out a whopping 10HP less than a 3.3 Frontier, take a look at the Torque curve.... then come see me..
With the new 4.0 SOHC coming in the next month.. Nissan had to do the quick bandaid of the SC.. Just face it you own a weak truck.. the Frontier.

mmcbride1

NOW do you see why we make fun of him?

mahimahi

Don't start whining now...you've never posted any true information except that your truck looses power when you turn your A/C on and that you've used a whole box of 'band aids' on your 160hp 4.0L. Those are the facts that YOU posted none of that hearsay crap that you linked up here!
I can't believe how fast your dealership is with your truck. You were only gone for about two days there. They must have seen the weekend coming and didn't want you curled up on their couch over the weekend. I hope you don't get stuck over the weekend who knows you might have a Nissan or Toyota pull you out...or maybe NOT! They may just ride right past you So stay out of the litter box! See ya in about three days kitty when your dealer fixes you.

gooba

vince,you are only partially correct.You did say that you lost 2-3 mpg with the a/c on.That means that your engine has to work harder.The a/c drags your engine down to have around a 10% loss in mileage.That means that either the a/c is putting too big a load on the engine and/or the engine does not have suffcicent power to handle the extra load very easily.

cthompson21

I sled up in Tomahawk, WI (I live just south of Chicago, so about a 5hr ride). It's in the North Woods about an hour south of the UP. I believe all lands are state owned/controlled. They have an incredible trail system that is meticulously maintained and groomed daily. There are 250 miles of trails just in the county in which I ride. Plus, you've got all of the lakes and rivers. It's really beautiful country. There's a lot of sledding out on the east coast. You've just got to head far enough north and towards the great lakes. It seems that Maine and NY State are popular with snowmobilers. I'm thinking of visiting a buddy of mine in MI this winter to give those trails a try.

cthompson21

Hey! I'm not getting involved in that! :^D

mmcbride1

I hear you. I kind of wish I wasn't involved, either. Oh, well.

croy2

Sorry to hear that you are having problems with your AOL connection Vince. But since they are the largest ISP, they must be the best, right (Vince Quality Logic).

Yah, I'll bet that your real excited about the new 2001 Ranger. When it comes out you'll have a whole new set of B.S. numbers to spew on these boards. And then you can continue your expert commentary on a vehicle that you don't even own.

Yah, I know that trying to reason with Vince is fruitless, but it can be entertaining to see someone so stuck on his torque. Night night kitty. Meow.

scape2

Its funny how all my links, reviews and data I have shown are "B.S.", yet all the stuff any Nissan owner brings to the board is fact... Hmm...
Let me spell this out for those of you who still don't get it. I DON'T LOSE POWER WHEN MY A/C IS ON, I LOSE MPG. N O T P O W E R. And If I remember right there have been plent of folks along with a certain review that claims the A/C on the Frontier isn't so hot and severely drags the engine down! LOL. ..
Torque is something you Nissan guys don't want to talk about. Something you Nissan guys know nothing about because you bought the compact truck with the LOWEST amount of torque in its class.. LOL!! Which makes it obvious to me you know nothing about real trucks and what they are supposed to be used for. Along with what a HP/Torque curve is, what it means for towing, hauling or whichever..
I took a peak at a 2000 Fronter XE 4x4 3.3. No way in hell can you tell me the interior is nicer than a Ranger!! Cheap, Cheap!!! you call that a kingcab?? There is no room back there!! And by the way, the salesperson WANTED my 4x4 stepside Ranger XLT SC bad, he even said "they are very popular and sell quickly and are a nice looking truck" right from the mouth a Nissan salesperson!
See you in the Cascade range, oops, forgot this is the Frontier vs Ranger room, Frontiers can't make it where I go....

mahimahi

Vinny the Kitty,
Oh NOW you want to believe a SALESPERSON! He wants to sell you a truck Kitty! Look I'm really sorry that you loose power when you turn your A/C on that must really suck! I can see why you would 'band aid' your truck with cheap aftermarket parts, since Ford isn't willing to provide the power that a 'REAL' trucker such as yourself desires. I guess if I owned a Ranger and 'wheeled' in the Cascades I would want more power too! 160 wouldn't cut it I guess, since a REAL trucker had to modify his. As for those imaginary nissan people you referred to even if we did loose power we still have more than you with yours off! LOL. Oh BTW, notice how your posts got scribbled off the 'war' topic! LOL

cthompson21,
Sorry to lump you on with Vince's post, but have seen how well your new topic has done? unbelievable the response. Thanks for the info on the mats I am going to 'surf' the web for more info on them. Also I was going to ask you for a friend is your truck a manual or auto?

wdoyle9752

When I usually when I think of a real truck, I think of full-size not a compact truck.

If you are just into torque, why didn't you get a Chevy S10 with a Vortec 4.3, that has considerably more power than your 4.0 Vince. I'm sure you've fought the S10 owners too. I guess you would just argue chevy's aren't as reliable as fords, but of course the chevy is more powerful, (Gee, this sounds familiar - Nissan vs Ford). You probably don't own a Chevy S10 because it's not Ford, It's not pretty enough for you (I thought people who know about real trucks don't care what it looks like), etc. You always have reason why you are left with Ford for the only choice no matter how insignificant your reasoning maybe. I have no problem buying different brand vehicles, but rest assured Vince will never have anything other than ford sit in his driveway as long as there is someone to argue with.

Oh, and Vince don't compare the SOHC 4.0 to chevy, because no one is interested. I'm comparing the Chevy/Vortec 4.3 to your weak, weak 98 4.0. LOL

gooba

vince,your knowledge and intelligence shines through once again.What makes it even sadder is you try to discuss things that you have no clue about.vince,I think you need to seriously consider going to a Doctor.If you look at ALL of your posts,you ALWAYS SAY THE SAME THING.ALWAYS.IT NEVER CHANGES.The discussion could be past that or your question answered,and you ALWAYS come back to the SAME THINGS.This could very well be the beginnings of Alzheimers or some other memory lapse.That is the only rational explanation for your posts and behavior.Get help and soon.

mahimahi,have you looked at your carrier bearing?

mahimahi

No, I haven't yet. I read your posts on Friday and meant to this weekend but, I forgot. I will tomorrow after work. I was under my truck about two weeks ago just checking things out but, I didn't look at it not even thinking to. But, thanks for the info I'll check mine out. I have about 13,500 miles on it, that's alot since March, I guess it would show by now if it was going to do it. How many miles do you have on yours?

gooba

I have 7100 on mine.
In reading some posts on another board there are people who have this at 2000 miles.

cthompson21

Yeah, the new topic looks like it's been a hit. I was amazed by the response from Dakota owners. If only someone (you know who I'm talking about) could get past the lame, boring reliability statistics... There's really so many more interesting things to talk about. My thoughts are that he has very severe buyer's remorse.

Unfortunately, I got my truck with an automatic. It's the new 5-speed auto coupled with the OHV 4L. As far as slushboxes go, it's pretty decent. Sometimes it gets a little confused by my inputs (as I've seen with all slushboxes). It does make for a nice romp up to 80 or 90 off the line, though. It really keeps the engine in the meat of the powerband and shifts very quickly.

I went with the auto-tranny because at the time my wife couldn't drive a stick. She did learn about a year ago when we got the SVTour. So, my next truck will most likely be a manual.

mahimahi

I might have gone manual if not for several reasons: higher towing capacity, towing in traffic is alot easier w/auto(well driving in traffic period is alot easier), coming up the boat ramps is alot nicer. But, I love shifting and the passing ability is so much better with the five speed(manual). If I was doing alot of offroading like I used to do I would have gone with the manual. Every vehicle I had up to the Acura was a manual, I did get spoiled to degree. It's funny I rest my hand on the transfer case shifter, just to get 'that' truck feel.

I know what you're saying about that particular person he reminds me of somebody else...they both have one track minds and tunnel vision!

cncman

Gooba;
Sorry, noone has heard anything about this, but it does not mean Nissan may not issue a TSB after they gather more info. One thing I found out about them having to order the shaft, it was easier to do that than press the bearings! Man I can't believe you guys are still going on with Vince, he already knows he has no clue about what he's talking about, he's been so wrong on so many things, he always posts the same old thing over and over again, can't support his arguments, and has absolutely 0 to contribute anywhere, well have fun with him, I am busy selling those weak 3.3l's in the CC's and Xterras, man I can't believe how low I am letting all of those people buy such a lowly engine no matter how many people are lined up for them I really should send them to Ford right?

gooba

Thanks for getting back to me.I just read on another board where a guy had his replaced and the service manager supposedly told him that there is a TSB out now.Here is what he posted:

Dealer finally got in my third driveshaft/carrier bearing assembly. The service manager did confirm that there was a TSB out on this problem. I asked him what the TSB said and he told me that the TSB said that this was a problem and to replace any any broken bearings.(Replace them with the same part!) I also asked him if the one piece driveshaft on the 2001 would fit my 2000 and he said that it would not because the driveline is set up differently. That's all for now.

That is why I was curious.My local dealer is clueless and this reference to a TSB is spotty at best.

Just the problem children need to go to Ford.

scape2

Isn't this a Ranger vs Frontier room? Don't get me started about the S-10. I know about 6 people right off the top of my head who either owned one or got rid of one. Its the worst compact for quality/reliability on the market today... Even with the 4.3 V6 that I admit is more powerful than a 4.0 Ranger. S-10's plain suck..
Yeah, Blah, Blah, Blah, Vince this, Vince that, Vince doesn't know anything.. Same old same old. You Nissan guys just picked the wrong fight with a Ford owner who knows his stuff... Now go push you Nissans..

mahimahi

Yikes...I'm scared, we picked the wrong 'kitty'. Bring it on tough guy, there have been many questions in which you haven't answered. So when you clean the cobb webs out of your computer look at any, I mean ANY of the past questions and "strut" your so-called knowledge. We await as we have been since your start.

Is this a new post or a repeat? Sounds awefully familiar to me. I don't think that President Clinton could get this many chances!

cygnusx1

My S-10 ran for 10 years. My Ranger barely lasted 10 weeks. LOL!

gooba

Someone posted this TSB number.NTB00-025.Could you check on that,as well as this part number:37521-S4326.That is supposed to be the upgraded carrier bearing.

mahimahi

Last night I popped under my Crew Cab with a flashlight to see about my carrier bearing that you mentioned. So there it was just as you have described the bottom part or 'tab' of the bushing was "leaning" out toward the rear. I also looked closer and it appears that it might have been rubbing a little right outside the yoke. It hasn't popped out really just kind of pushed out a little. So I went to the dealer where I bought the truck, thinking that if they were going to give me any grief what so ever I would go to the other two dealers that are less than ten miles from them. When i pulled up and described the problem to the service writer he immediately got the service manager. I told that before I make an appointment that I wanted him to order the part. The service was amazing, he jumped in the truck drove it over to a service bay(they lowered a car that was on the rack, move it) threw my truck up on the rack. He and the mechanic looked at what I was describing and agreed without a hitch. I asked him if he had anybody else in here with that problem and he genuinely said no. I told him how I heard about on here and about the discussion you have had about it. He proceeded to tell me that the whole driveshaft assy would have to be replaced(as you and the other guy have noted). I told him that I thought that Nissan was issuing a bulletin about it. He said that if they have, they might have redesigned the driveshaft assy. and that they would order the "new" design instead for me, but he still ordered the current design anyway this morning. I'm telling you I didn't have to argue, plea or anything with these guys. Awesome service. I think I will take the time to write a letter because no matter what industry this day and time it's hard to find good customer service. When I find some I think it's worth praising. However, I will wait until all of this over first .

BTW, thanks...without your comments and posts I would have never noticed it. I wanted to also ask you(or anyone else)if when you accelerate from about 20 to 35mph do you get a smooth vibration or shutter? do but, have always chalked it up to the amount of torque of the engine at that speed. This 'shutter or vibration' is even more pronounce when I have a boat on the back. I've read the other boards talking about the driveshaft angle but I don't know...I driven alot of different trucks and have never felt this before. It's not a major 'feel' but I know it's there. Maybe the 'new' driveshaft will cure that. I saw on one of these topics Nissan used to produce 'bad' driveshafts

gooba

I am so glad you got it taken care of.I am also sorry that you had the problem.I am still waiting on mine.I figure that 2 weeks is plenty of time to get the part in.If not,then I guess I will have a legit complaint.
I do not have the vibration or shudder you are describing.It may be due to the failure of the carrier bearing.There have been other people who have reported a vibration or shudder when taking off,and the replacement of the carrier bearing alleviated the problem.I hope that is the case in your situation.After it is fixed,keep an eye on it.I have not heard of a new part other then the one I asked cncman to check on.
You know,your post is what this is all about.I better qualify this with IMHO.The exchange of information,especially in this case is rather refreshing and makes it wothwhile.Thanks mahimahi.

gooba

Ok vince,you made your point.Considered your position.Now what?

scape2

Its the same thing over and over again. My points, links, reviews, data whichever, doesn't matter. I know I pissed gooba, Mah, cyn, cncman and others off with facts they didn't like about your Nissans....No go find some torque..

mahimahi

Finally....You got it "Its the same thing over and over again. My points, links, reviews, data whichever, doesn't matter." EXACTLY!!!!!!

Your Ford 4.0L ISN'T even powerful enough to be a bilge pump on my boat! Now YOU go find some horsepower.

mahimahi

True, that's what I believe these boards are for also. Again, thanks I hope the other CC guys check theirs out. The vibration thing is subtle but noticeable. What I should do is drive another CC to see if it does the same thing that I'm talking about.
Something I noticed today while following a 2wd CC the rear springs are mounted under the axles while ours(4wd) are mounted on top plus our shock mounts are very similar to the Tacoma's, they don't really hang down like the other brands. I guess since the 2wd CC has the same ride height they must have longer springs. I wonder if the 'ride' is different?...I only drove the 4wd model. I know they don't have the ground clearance that we have.

gooba

no vince,you did not make me mad.In order for that to happen,I would have to care about what you said.It does not matter to me.As far as the rest of the discussion,your last point about finding torque.Ok I have less torque.So now what other point would you like to make?

croy2

Well Vince, I just got back from a camping trip to Big Bear. I climbed my weak little SE CC up to 7500 feet on all kinds of steep fire roads. The bed was fully loaded and I had two mountain bikes on the roof rack. The whole time my truck ran flawlessly and I never had a lack of power. The poor soul in the campsite next to me had a 2000 Ranger 4x4, and he had nothing but complaints.

You keep on worrying about your torque figures Vince, and I will keep on enjoying a much better vehicle. Meow.

gooba

Glad you had a great time.It must be nice to see trees,and be in the cool country.
Haven't you realized that you could not climb up those roads.The torque and hp figures do not lie.
The off road performance of your truck has to be exaggerated.Edmunds,and ALL the other rags that reviewed the truck rated it low. ;-D
You sir,have done something the experts said cannot be done,and you spoke words that were sacrilegous because the experts and vince are the authorities. ;-D.This is like the breaking of the stone tablets.For shame croy2.

mahimahi

Wooooow, I can't believe a Nissan could go up a hill!!!! There's no way! Croy2 lies...only Vinny the Kitty speaks the truth on a vehicle he's NEVER driven or owned. Don't you know it'sall about a torque curve? Torque Curve, Torque Curve, Torque Curve, Torque Curve, Torque Curve, Torque Curve, Torque Curve, Torque Curve, Torque Curve, Torque Curve, Torque Curve, Torque Curve, Torque Curve, Torque Curve, Torque Curve, Torque Curve, Torque Curve...eventhough we have yet to see one on the 160hp 4.0L Lawn trimmer motor of his. I found one on the 2000 'cammer' and posted one on the 3.3L so now it's time he does his own homework...I did it for him last time. Maybe, he knows I shut him down, put him in his litter box! Nice Pussycat.

scape2

LOL! Yeah right, you climbed MT Everest in your Nissan loaded with 5,000 lbs, and towing another 5,000lbs..... Blah, Blah, Blah. And of course a RAnger just happened to be there? imagine that? And of course the RAnger owner had complaints.. Come on.. nice try though..
When I come to this room about me in the Cascades.. It goes something like this..
Gooba: You did not go into the Cascades, Liar!
Mah: Your Ranger never could have made into the Cascades.. you don't own one..
croy2: Yeah right your Ranger would fall apart before hitting gravel...
YOu Nissan guys are almost as bad as the Toyota boys. At least though a Toyota has some power! Enjoy your WEAK, WEAK, WEAK 3.3's....
I can tell you story after story of what my RAnger has been through in the Cascade Range and Deserts of Eastern Oregon. This is real 4x4 Country and my Ranger has never, EVER let me down. You guys just hate it, a Ford owner who loves his Ranger (2nd Ranger at that). Is an offroad, outdoors type of guy.
Now scoot along now and find out what torque is....