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Taurus/Sable Heating / Cooling Problems
I've been searching / surfing for the heater dash vent that is between the steering column and the glove compartment. It is broken on my 1995 Merc Sable. NO LUCK !!!!!!! Any suggestions. I've tried the local junk yards and the dealer isn't interested (I guess they cant make lots of cash)
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my problem is that the air vents are working on defrost and floor(default-mode).and not working on face mode.does any one know how to pop the panel up on the dash-board on the front windscreen or if its the right approach..or does a fuse cause this problem..i dont wanna go messing too much with it just yet incase i activate the airbag
1. pinch off the by pass hose ( you will see this run above the heater coil in/out lets on the fire wall.
2. Remove hose at the water pump going to the fire wall.
3. Remove the return hose from the coil to the block
4. Pour liquid draino into the hose going from the pump to the coil
5. After 10 min, flush with high pressure water.
you can also back flush because you have both hoses off.
good luck
It is very common on the taurus to have a clogged heater core. You can check this by removing the lines coming in and out of the heater core. Remember to block the bypass line around the heater core so you can push all the water threw the heater core. You can then put a garden hose on the heater core and see how much flow you can get threw it. Don't add too much pressure of you may damage the heater core and cause a leak. If you are getting good flow it is not the heater core. If it is totally plugged then the draino trick will not work either. (Be very careful if you do choose to go the draino route) As for having to replace the heater core, it is a real pain in the you know what. Unless you are good with wrenches and have a high tolerance for frustration it is a job best left to the professionals.
Now if you have good flow threw your heater core then it is probably a blend door actuator. The blend door actuator controls the amount of heat that you get with your heater. On the taurus it tends to fail quite a lot. The little plastic gears go bad and the heater will not work as if fails in the cold position. I think they are around $70 at ford and fairly easy to replace yourself. It is located under the center consul. You can test to see if it is working by turning the fan on high and turning the hot-cold switch. You should be able to hear a different noise as the air flow changes. You should also be able to hear the blend door come open and closed.
Good luck.
I don't know why you are getting a cold temperature but the coolant tank has two chambers. It will actually work will very little coolant in the system. If the coolant gets too low the gauge will bounce around quite a lot.
Good luck. The good thing is if it is a coolant tank then it is a very easy fix. I think the tank is about $50 from ford and much less from Auto Zone.
First off is your coolant tank full? The Taurus tank has two sections. It is possible that a sharp turn causes one to splash over if it is very low. I guess it cold have something to do with water pump too but usually they just go out. One last thing I would check again is your thermostat. If you are in a very cold place it may be letting very cold water from your radiator in. Really these are all just guesses. I am fairly good at turning wrenches but am far from a professional.
If you still have water getting pushed out of your radiator, after you check for leaks in your coolant tank, I would guess your head gasket (s) are bad again. The Taurus is known for that but more often on the 24 valve than the 12 valve.
I bought a 1997 GL from my friend for a work car two years ago. It has been a good car so far but I have had to replace the coolant tank, the blend door actuator and the camshaft position sensor. All were pretty easy fixes.
Good luck and hope it is not the head gasket again. They are a pain.
Good luck. You can go to auto zone online for most things and they will give you detailed instructions how to do it. I am not sure about the blend door though.
I have found many others with this problem. Together we can force Ford to recall/fix the problem. If enough people with the same problem file the complaint, NHTSA will force Ford to comply with their own existing recall or actually extend an EXISTING recall under 03V087000.
Here is what you need to do:
1. Call NHTSA at 1-888-327-4236 or go to http://www.nhtsa.gov/
2. File your complaint, have your VIN ready and dates of problems (if possible)
3. While filing your complaint reference recall number 03V087000 AND my complaint 10184014. This will show a continuing trend.
4. If your water leak problem also resulted in a shorted out AC blower motor, make sure you mention this as well.
5. Once you have filed, please e-mail me at williamford61@hotmail.com and give me your complaint number. I intend to compile all complaints which will prove the problem is widespread.
Do it and together this will get fixed!
When it's really cold, the blower is inoperative.
Heat still comes a bit, while driving, but the fan is stone dead.
3rd time now. Fuses are fine...when it gets a bit warmer, it works fine. Never seern anything like it.
My 1st Ford.....making me a little suspicious.....
Any ideas? Steve in Canada. :-)
Thx,
Walds
Can I upgrade to full automatic climate controls by buying the dash control unit from a junkyard/ebay/etc., and swapping?
Telephone
800-392-3673
800-232-5952 (TDD for the Hearing Impaired)
They paid 80% without any haggle, they know it's a factory defect. Let me know how it comes out.
BTW...the Sables have this SAME problem.
Signed,
Unhappy Campers
So here's the estimate:
Blower motor $108.44
Blower resistor $ 25.40
Cowl Panel $ 43.78
Total Parts $177.62
Labor 1.5 TT- 2.5 $141.95
Diagnosis 1 time $ 99.95 (Paid today to get documentation)
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$419.52
Ford 10% Off -$ 41.95
We pay $377.57 + Taxes (Unhappy Camper)
Ford 80% Off -$335.61
We pay $ 83.81 + Taxes (Satisfied Customer)
Feeling pretty raw about now.
I asked for a Customer Service Supervisor to call me, said they would within 48 hours, we will see. They "Will Not Give Out Zone Mgrs telephone number!"
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Thanks!
Ford $99.95 diagnostics. Another Ford dealer repaired it for $389.00 for a total of over $490.00 bucks not including the $40 I spent on a used blower from the junk yard. They contend it's not a safety issue but let them drive a car with fogged up windows.
I guess if we had an accident and the lawsuit forced them to recognize the problem we could get satisfaction. This needs a class action attorney to file in court for us to get our money back. Not to mention it will be the last Ford this family purchases.
If you need details of the invoice to lower your repair charges let me know! The above quote was wrong.
When I mentioned this to a friend with an older Taurus, she said the same thing just happened to her Taurus, but it has been back to the dealer three times and not fixed yet. Very irritating.
I have heard that in order to replace the heater core you have to take down the dash board. But i really dont know were is it at. I try finding any topics dealing with my situation but since im new at this forum. i dont know from were to start.
I would apreciate and thank , any body that would help me out.
some effects i get from this problem is that my windshild gets foggy alot and fog from the vents come out. theres a leak i have under the car some were in the passenger side
they had told me . that this is due to a leak on the heater core and or i have to replace some of the hoses or the heater core it self..
ANY ONE COULD HELP
I have heard that in order to replace the heater core you have to take down the dash board. But i really dont know were is it at. I try finding any topics dealing with my situation but since im new at this forum. i dont know from were to start.
I would apreciate and thank , any body that would help me out.
some effects i get from this problem is that my windshild gets foggy alot and fog from the vents come out. theres a leak i have under the car some were in the passenger side
they had told me . that this is due to a leak on the heater core and or i have to replace some of the hoses or the heater core it self..
ANY ONE COULD HELP
I have a 1999 Taurus which has never had the well known cowl leak and which still has the original heater core. I have a 2007 Taurus which just had the passenger side leak and is just disgusting to me that Ford used the same old parts or else they used up old parts because they discontinued the old model Taurus. They do not give you any documentation on the leak repair under warranty probably to protect themselves.
Here's what I found. Disconnect the negative battery terminal for two or three minutes and re-connect. Then try your AC system again. It has worked for me twice now. Good Luck.