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I used to work in Langhorne at the Woods School, way back when... Nope, these days I live in Lansdowne (not to be confused with Lansdale!) - not too far - don't get any wild ideas about spare parts!!! Hey, You've got good taste too! Big Lucy is Eagles Green and Silver!
Any feed back would geatly help.
most if not all of us on these forums are very satisfied with it.
Bookitty
HELP
one way or the other, then by all means follow your star, even if it means driving through the old neighborhood at night when your friends can't see you. Or, you could buy the Ford Sport-Trac 5 speed, and be blown off by a Dodge Dakota and say, just like the guy who does the commercials for V8 juice; "Gee, I could have had a V8!" Seriously, only you can make the choice. Whatever you choose, make certain that it is the best choice for your particular needs. Follow your heart.
Bookitty
BUT, after seriously studying and test driving both vehicles (and others) extensively over at least a 6 mo. period, I went with the QC b/c: 1) the looks -- I feel the QC looks like a cool truck for persons of all ages, while the ST is a more of a cute SUT (sport utility truck) for younger (high school/college?) persons; 2) performance -- hands down the QC has the ST beat. From what I understand from this and other Dakota boards, the gas mileage with the 4.7L engine is similar to the ST's (approx. 17 hwy), but the 4.7 clearly outclasses the V-6 in the ST in terms of acceleration etc.; 3) The QC out-handles the ST by far and has a better turning radius to boot. So even though it is a longer vehicle, I found that I could park the QC and make U-Turns easier in the QC than the ST. Also, I feel it is less prone to roll over vs. the ST due to its wider track and lower height; 4) more usable interior and exterior space. In terms of interior room, both vehicles are pretty close, but I feel the QC feels larger. And if you have kids, the car seats will fit better in the QC rear seat. Also, the way the rear seats fold up offers much more room inside the cab. In terms of exterior space -- no comparison since the QC has a longer and more usable bed. At first this didn't really matter to me when buying the truck, but now that I have it, I am very appreciative of the space afforded by the longer bed, and I'm that much more happy I didn't buy the ST; and 5) Price/Value -- the QC is several thousands of dollars less than a similarly equipped ST and you get much more amenities for the $$ (the ST doesn't even have a low fuel warning light, heated mirrors, steering wheel mounted stereo controls, etc. etc. etc.) And currently, with the 2K rebate or 1K rebate plus low financing options, the QC is a steal in my estimation. For the money you save over the ST, you can buy cool performance parts, a tonneau cover, bed liner, etc. and still come out ahead.
I could go on and on, but for the sake of the board, I'll cut this message short. In summary, if you're absolutely drawn to the niche looks of the ST (and I admittedly still am), go with the ST. But if you want looks, superior performance, and $$ left in your pocket, go with the QC. Good luck with your decision!
To the point, I looked at the qc, test drove it, and the sport-trac didn't have a chance. Needless to say, my dodge has no moonroof, but I am in love with my qc. Bed size also factored in, slightly.
one word of advice, if you do not live in an area which is constantly under white stuff, eschew the full time 4WD for part time, as it does seem to lug down your horses and mileage somewhat.
What ever your choice, good luck and drive safely!
scottie
Take care, and happy valentine's day to all! take care to wash and check the fluids of those you love (and be nice to your wives husbands, boyfriends and girlfriends too)!
drive safely all
scottie
I was wondering what kind of deals folks have made for extended warranties on their Dodge 4x4 QC. I didn't get one at the time I bought the truck thinking I'd do a little research first. I plan on having the truck a while so figured the extended warranty couldn't hurt.
The finance guy offered me what he called the "salesman's price", 15% over his cost, which totaled about $1350 for the 7yr 60K bumper-to-bumper warranty. Supposedly it's what he charges car salemen working at the dealership who get the extended warranty.
Warranty Direct @ http://www.warrantydirect.com quotes about $1100 for their 5yr 100K bumper-to-bumper. It supposedly includes wear and tear items which the guy at the dealership said he didn't see how they could.
I can get MBI coverage for 6yr 75K from my credit union for about $900.00. It is not bumper-to-bumper but covers the major items.
I'd prefer the Chrysler warranty but am curious if anyone has had experience with Warranty Direct or MBI coverage or other 3rd party extended warranties.
I've seen the testimonials on Warranty Direct web site but am still skeptical.
Your comments are appreciated.
Rich
This Chrysler dealership in Iowa sells the Chrysler extended warranty for hundreds of dollars off of the MSRP. They can get away with this b/c they do not advertise their discount program anywhere -- just by word of mouth. I understand that the "advantage" to going with the Chrysler warranty is that you get a rental car even if you bring your car in for routine maintenance, and all Mopar parts (including those you added to the car prior to purchasing the warranty -- like tonneau cover etc.) are covered by the extended warranty as well. Sam's Club also offers an extended warranty through http://www.warrantyvillage.com/sams
I believe it was a little cheaper than the discounted plan from Chrysler for the same comparative years/mileage. But when I compared apples with apples, I felt the factory extended warranty plan was more comprehensive and suited my needs more. Good luck.
got a great deal at $100 over invoice.
My dealer called yesterday, said my truck would
be here by 1st of March and rebate is NOW $2000!
Plus FB rebate of $500., I can't wait!:)
Now if my credit union would lower the interest
rate,,,,,,,,
mick
I believe i got the 3.55 ratio but i wish i had known i had a choice. Does anyone know what kind of differences there are in the ratio's?
I ran my truck down the quarter mile in 15.8 seconds at 86 mph. Would 3.92 be better?
bring the word into display in the checker box, and you will see the *ignore in the box which indicates that the word will be accepted at face value.
Bookitty
Nick
Help!!! The claimed they gave me invoice subtracting rebate . . . I believe they still made about $1000 off me?
what are the advantages of the 3.92 axle . . . only towing?
I've heard that gas milage adn excess wear are caused by the 3.92 . . . but that's just rumor
I believe there is a 200-300 rpm difference than a truck equipped with 3.55 axle.
within 60 miles of me. I live near Sacramento, and have been to 7 dealerships in the area.
When you say 5 sp, the guy says "Huh????" Do they just not make them for lots anymore?
I want to test drive a 5 sp before I order one. Do any of you that own a 5 sp have the same
problem as I am???? Some bozo today told me that they don't make them anymore and that
Dodge recalled all of them because they had problems. Sounds like he wanted to sell me
something that was on his lot.
I imagine you will find it difficult to locate a 5 speed especially in areas with lots of traffic. It makes stop and go traffic more work. I live in the midwest and I could only find 1 v8/5speed to test drive before I ordered mine and it was a fully loaded 4x4 while I wanted a 2 wheel drive. The dealer had several v6/5speeds because they were entry level (cheaper) trucks. Don't believe there are no 5 speeds out there, the dealer wants to sell what is on his lot and some will lie to you to try to accomplish that.
You may have to ask the dealer to get on his computer and check the "network" of other dealers. Most dealers offer a service wheras you can have a vehicle 'brought in' from another dealership.
Other than that... you will find that most of us that have the manual xmission actually orderd it from the factory. (You often get a better deal that way anyway because the dealer only has to fill out an order sheet and he makes money. A vehicle sitting on his lot COSTS him money)
I was lucky enough to find a dealer that actually had a 5sp on his lot and after test-driving... I orderd one for myself. (less than a month from order to delivery)
I ordered of faith and got the 5 spd. I is nice.
The manual tranny is available with the v6 or the 4.7l v8 engine.
You did it, U Won ! Worldwide consumers have paid there hard earned money and you provided worldwide consumers with the worst Engineered vehicles on Earth...
Got to hand it to Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep, Plymouth you have Won beaten all your consumers.
Wise old saying you can't read a book by its cover :O)
Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep, Plymouth great looking vehicle unfortunately for the unsuspecting consumer even to date Transmission failure, head gasket failure , too many more serious problems Etc...
Just read this Newsgroup 2% Satisfied , 98% Unsatisfied . Surf the internet U will find 100s of thousands of Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep, Plymouth vehicle owners that are Big Losers. Telling there Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep, Plymouth vehicle Horror stories.
Now that Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep, Plymouth consumers have read the book by owning one of the worst Engineered vehicles on Earth. Consumers worldwide learned a costly but valuable lesson.
Now we have come to realize. Yes Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep, Plymouth they are the Winners.
Yep we the "Consumers of Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep, Plymouth vehicles are the BIG LOSERS" !
Were losing vehicle trade in, Value its Awful.
Quality Automobile Dealers don't want your Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep, Plymouth vehicle offering 50% of Galves Trade in if in Mint Condition.
Even Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep, Plymouth Dealers are offering 50% of Galves. Now we are driving around in a nearly worthless Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep, Plymouth vehicle and paying for Major repairs :O(
Its not going to get any better cause Smart Consumers are not Buying a New or even thinking of buying a used Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep, Plymouth vehicle.
We sure learned a Valuable Lesson > Never again buy Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep, Plymouth vehicles. For those few Die Hards remember( Only a Fool Loses Twice )
Rejoice fellow Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep, Plymouth vehicle consumers now it is our turn to Win.
Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep, Plymouth your profits are gone, Stocks are dropping to an all time low Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep, Plymouth is just hanging on by a thread bankruptcy is near Hooray - Yeah !
Now how does it feel to be a LOSER ! Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep, Plymouth :O)
Worldwide automotive consumers buy smart be a Winner don't become a Loser like the rest of us who owned or still own the worst engineered vehicles on Earth.
Let Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep, Plymouth become the final Loser.
It may not be the engineering that is the problem. Perhaps it is the execution of the design that needs to be re-engineered. (read corperate mindset)
NEWS FLASH.... Plymouth does not exist anymore!
BTW... Oldsmobile is going away too.
Even IH and AMC (International Harvester and American Motors Corporation) no longer exist either.
club cab, and it was my friends parents! I asked them if I could take it for a test drive and they
were happy to do so. He said he was overall very happy with the truck. Personally, I didn't
really like the 5 sad. As I have read on some board here, 1st gear is useless!!!! Some people
even said they started out in 2nd. Also, I found a very rough shift between 1st and 2nd. He
said that it will do it until it warms up a bit. Sure enough, about 4-5 minutes after driving it,
it became much smoother. This is puzzling. hmmmm?????
So as much as I hate to do it, I am thinking of a auto tarns. I own a 99 Nissan 4x4 with 198K
on it and it has a auto tarns. Overall extremely satisfied with the truck, and I got used to the
auto cranny. 5spd are much more fun to drive. (especially my wife's 2000 mist eclipse!) Got
pulled over yesterday in it for doing 74 in a 55, didn't get a ticket. Most cops are actually pretty
nice.....but hats a different board.
Lman
"cranny". :-))))))) Oh well, I will know not to use this spell checker again. :-)
Lman
Perhaps the one you tested had the wrong viscosity gear oil in it, or has not seen fresh oil for a good many miles. (Both of which would cause the problems you describe)
Which tranny was it that you tested? NV1500 or the NV3500 unit,
said before though, 1st gear is useless on the 99, and that was the opinion of some previous posts. Whats your opinion on that? I may be spoiled from
my 97 Z-24 cavalier or my wifes new 2000 mits eclipse. Now that is a smooth shifter!!!! Should
I try to find a 5spd or bite the bullet and buy an auto????
Lman
I did not order the rear sliding window and would like help in finding who/where an electric rear slider can be purchased and/or installed. In my trusty 1990 S-10 that now has 225k miles with an extended cab, I could barely reach the rear slider while driving and see no possibility with the QC of reaching it, thus the desire for an electric and non purchase of the factory slider.
Also, I did not go for any of the extended warranty packages and hope that is smart. I would appreciate comments on the slider, the warranty pkg, and anything else in lieu of its arrival.
dave
shift mechanism. I had a 1995 Club cab, with the 5.2 and a 5 speed. Also great. Both units had the 3.55 LSD and both were 4X4. My 1995 had the tires that came with the 4X4 as the 31X10.5X15 were not available to order. Until I upgraded and upsized the tires, the 1995 felt like first gear was a "grunt." The first Quad that I ordered came in with a 3.92 instead of the 3.55 as ordered. I refused delivery, because that felt like a granny gear as well. Perhaps the 1999 you drove had smaller diameter rubber and a 3.92. This will feel different from the 3.55 with the tire and handling package. Look into it. I am very pleased with my truck.
Bookitty