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Dodge Dakota Crew Cab - V



  • andy_jordanandy_jordan Posts: 765
    Dakota production of 2001 models begins July 10th.
  • resqmanresqman Posts: 71
    A number of people have mentioned that they "shaved the badges" from their trucks.

    I removed the dealer's little sticker within hours of taking it home. My fingernails worked O.K. for his trival little logo sticker but to remove the others I was wondering if anyone could recommend a process or tool or ??? to make it easier?

    I want to remove the black flat decal that says Dodge on the tailgate and replace it with the 3D retro-reflective Dodge decal. The retro-reflective seems to fit better with the two tone paint and chrome bumpers. It looks more like chrome only shinier.
  • andy_jordanandy_jordan Posts: 765
    Use a hair dryer, that should work - the newer the truck, the easier the removal.
  • thewink1thewink1 Posts: 21
    now that the issue of speed has been brought up, are those of you that are reporting the impressive mpg numbers (18-20) really maintaining your cruising speeds at 65 or less. it's my experience on the interstates in the south that the average speed is 75 and sometimes more. i'm just curious if i'm the only heavy footed quad owner or if you are all keeping the speed down to keep the mileage up. i never really thought of myself as a "speeder" i just move with the "flow"
  • iowabigguyiowabigguy Posts: 552
    I consistently get in excess of 19.5 with the cruise set on 66-67 MPG. Interstate Speed limit in Iowa is 65MPH. When I travel in Nebraska where the limit is 75 the best I've gotten is 17.4MPG with the cruise set on 75MPH. By the way I have a Quad w/4.7L 5 speed, 3.55LSD - Rick
  • bookittybookitty Posts: 1,303
    Wink, with the same general specifications as Rick
    (iowabigguy) I usually can deliver about 18MPG, but this is mixed driving with the road portions at 60 MPH (55 posted speed). There are some areas of heavier traffic involved. Also, the run from my PA home to our NJ beach house is a tad over 65 miles one way.

  • thewink1thewink1 Posts: 21
    thanks for the info. i have the 4.7L automatic i wonder if the transmission has anything to do with the mpg difference we're getting? i am
    still getting about 1 mpg less than you (rick) under the same driving conditions. the only difference between our rigs is the transmission and i dont have the lsd rear end.
  • impy2impy2 Posts: 50
    I have 2500 miles on my club cab 5-speed 4.7 liter V8. (first oil change scheduled for monday.....its free at least.) I wanted to get into the pedal a little bit to she how she ran. I was in 2nd gear, punched the gas, and accidentally brought the tach all the way to 5000 RPM's (the beginning of the yellow line). I only had it there for about 1/2 second. I did not mean to push the engine this far. Could this have harmed anything with that low of miles and no oil change yet?
  • bobemotobobemoto Posts: 29
    I've never been one for long breakins. I think brief excursions into the upper regions are probably good for it by that mileage. And by the way mine has seen it a few times since 1000 miles or so. Dang, am I ending sentences in prepositions to?
  • iowabigguyiowabigguy Posts: 552
    I believe the automatic is rated for better mileage in the city than the 5 speed. Highway they are rated the same. I suspect it is only driving style. Right now I am in a phase where I try to best my mileage over the previous tank. The instantaneous MPG display on the overhead computer is addictive to me, I suppose I'll get over it in time but right now it is still a game. I have noticed that only mildly agressive driving such as having to be the first away from a stop light has a much more negative impact on MPG than I would have thought. Maybe thats why I only averaged 13.5MPG in my 93 Club Cab 5.2L auto 3.55lsd. I didn't have the computer and loved blowing off Mustangs and Cameros. I suppose there are also minor production variations that could have a minor impact on MPG. Do your disc brakes drag more than mine? Is your tire pressure too low? Are your cylinder bores on the small side of the tolerances, increasing friction? Maybe your engine will need a few thousand more miles to smooth out. Are you using 10W30 instead of 5W30? I've got just over 2600 miles on my Quad. I plan on using Mobile 1 once I hit 5000 miles. Rick
  • themacguythemacguy Posts: 417
    I drive 70 - 75 on the i/states out here in W TX, and 80 - 90 on a couple of stretches of extremely smooth (ruler flat) two lanes off the traffic routes (NEVER see a car on those roads). It's an unusally (lunar landscape) bleak environment out here in the oilpatch. You can guess my mpg pretty much sucks (fuel).

    I've run a few auto-x out here with redline a pretty much normal occurrence. I doubt you've done any damage - these engines are exceptional. I didn't 'push' mine much during break-in, except for when my speed limiter wasn't 'working' at one point. ;->
  • ferousferous Posts: 226
    Like (iowabigguy), I'm trying for the best mileage right now. With 4.7 5spd 3.55lsd 215 tires, my last two tanks were 23.6 & 23.3. But I can't keep it there. I never went over 62MPH on either tank, just steady 42 mile drive to work on mostly 2 lane highway.
    The overhead computer is VERY addictive, but VERY educational. Anytime I top 65MPH the MPG drops fast. I've learned how far to be off the back of big trucks & vans to still be in their "draft" without tailgating. This really boosts your mileage. It's nothing for me to average 28-32 MPG @ 4 truck lengths behind a semi.
    Most importantly is just driving easy. I'm a big fan of "coasting" up to stops. I slip the stick out of 5th gear and coast till I'm down to at least 40 MPH (the computer will read 99 MPG).

    Nothing easy about the next 9 days. We are going camping with the pop-up all next week, so I will be sucking the gas for the next couple of tanks. Memorial Day weekend we went camping with the pop-up, 15-16 MPG was all I could get.

    Gas has dropped 30 cents a gallon here. Now I'm only paying 1.79. :|
  • ferousferous Posts: 226
    Due to the long Holiday week coming up. Please post only urgent info. I will be away from a computer for 9 days. At the rate we post here, that will take 5-6 hours to catch up when I get back home. I'm sure Boo is going to the beach and he might for get the lap top, so it would make it easier for everyone. :)
  • wantaquadwantaquad Posts: 11
    Does anyone know with some certainty when we can start ordering the 2001's (Quad that is). I have been reading these posts for some time, and I'm sure that someone out there will know this answer. Also, along with ordering, what will be the new options / accessories? :)
  • andy_jordanandy_jordan Posts: 765
    with absolute certainty that you can order them now.

    Production starts July 10th - absolutely, definitely, for certain.

    I haven't seen an official list of options, but the dealers have the details - and the Dodge web site may even have been updated -
  • bookittybookitty Posts: 1,303
    Thad, you can bet your boots that we'll be at the beach this weekend. Actually, I now leave my lap top at the beach house so that I can access this forum and not fall hopelessly behind like some other folks. Also, you are my hero if you consider 9 days a long weekend. Have a great time.

  • tgr1tgr1 Posts: 92
    About 6 months ago I covered this. Along with some of the obvious differences, such as underhood insulation, the SLT includes cruise/tilt for "free" relative to the Sport, i.e. equipped identically and with the cruise/tilt, the Sport was $200+ more.
  • pomycpomyc Posts: 28
    It has been a long time since I last posted but I have been keeping up on the post when I can - WOW, can that take awhile!!! I have the 2000 Dakota with 4.7L/4X4/Auto(multi-speed)/3.55/SLT. About two months ago I received a recall notice for an emissions control problem with the OBD system - no big deal, I'd get around to it when I could. About 2 1/2 weeks ago I had an intermittent check engine light come on so I finally took it in to get the recall and engine light looked at. Well, the engine light was due to a loose engine temp. sensor and was fixed. The emissions recall was taken care via reprogramming of the OBD. However, when I went to pick up my truck the customer service agent advised me that one other recall was also repaired. Evidently, the transmission control module was replaced. The replacement of the TCM, along with the emissions reprogram, was placarded as a modification on the sticker under the hood. While I have experienced occasional harsh shifts with my auto, I was really not too concerned about it. I did not receive any word from DC about the recall. Did anyone else with an auto get a recall notice??? I will say that there is a VERY noticeable difference in the way it shifts. Even my wife who is usually clueless about such things has commented on the improvement. I have 8300 miles on the truck and absolutely love it. Only other minor problem was yet another check engine light which turned out to be a bad crank shaft sensor which caused a rough idle here and there. Look forward to any responses. Happy 4th everyone. Stay safe and have fun!!!
  • ferousferous Posts: 226
    Nine days is a long weekend for me, but I would rather have your "retired" work schedule!!!! According to the Gvt., I'm 30+ years away from that, or 15 years if the wife goes back to work.

    Have a great 4th everyone, I'm out of here!
  • impy2impy2 Posts: 50
    Does anyone know of a website or a place to get info on any recalls, service bulletins, or problems with the 2000 Dakota. Thanks
  • myersedmyersed Posts: 102
    I suggest viewing
    Select Vehicle & Equipment Information" under Car safety. Then select Tech Service bulletins or Recalls.

    I have had better luck with the selection window on the left side of the screen by entering 2000, Dodge Truck, Dakota and leaving the last selection blank.

    Note the new April Recall Update on the main page. It contains a Dodge Dakota Recall for 1999 and 2000 Tow Hitch fractured receiver mounts. I mention it because it is not in the TSBs.

    A source for the details of a TSB is for a fee however.
  • impy2impy2 Posts: 50
    I tried some things you guys told me about my spark knock problem, but nothing worked. (of course it is not anyones fault) I have the 2000 club cab sport with 4.7 Liter V8, 5-speed, loaded with the tow package and all the heavy duty service stuff. (2500 miles) I have used every kind of 87 octane fuel. (exxon, chevron, citgo, BP, go mart) I cannot get rid of my spark knock. I can hear it throughout the whole RPM range especially under hard acceleration and hill climbing. Just for kicks I tried a tank full of 93 octane. (I know it is not recommended) I wanted to see if that cured it so I could at least rule out low octane as a problem. The truck still suffered from spark knock, even with the 93 octane. Not quite as bad, but nothing to be happy about. I feel it is time to take it to the dealer. What exactly could be wrong. What will the dealer do to correct it. The truck runs great, accelerates smooth, idles smooth, never hesitates, and has plenty of power. It just sounds like "marbles in the hubcaps" under the hood. Would a different thermostat help, such as a 180 degree. I really do not want to do that, because that truck is designed to run on a 195 degree thermostat. I am just curious how the dealer would fix this. Thanks guys
  • bookittybookitty Posts: 1,303
    Meyer, thanks for your very informative posting re
    the NHTSA web site. I bookmarked it for future reference.

  • bcarter3bcarter3 Posts: 145
    I have followed all of the Dakota topics for the past 10 months and thanks to all the great information posted to them I feel that I am well prepared for the upcoming purchase of a new SLT ClubCab. Every visit here has been enjoyable and informative. I hope to order before the end of August. I have a question regarding the bumper fascias. The info I have is that the ClubCab SLT has gray fascias regardless of body color. The Dodge website indicates that the QuadCab SLT has body colored fascias. Is that correct? I really like the SLT colors but may have to choose a color that would allow me to change to Sport fascias later. My assumption is that the fascias are molded from colored materials to match the body colors. I could just paint the gray ones but I don't think it would be too durable. Appreciate any info.
  • iowabigguyiowabigguy Posts: 552
    "The info I have is that the ClubCab SLT
    has gray fascias regardless of body color"
    This is true for 2000 SLT Dakotas. If it is true for the 2001 models is unknown, supposedly the fascia is changed on the 2001 model. I don't believe the color is molded in on the sport models but rather is painted on. There is a special type of additive they put into paint when it is applied to the flexible bumper covers, I imagine a good body shop could take care of that for you. I considered that for my 2k Quad (driftwood) but now that I've lived with the truck for a while I've gotten used to the gray. Another thing I've considered is a chromed metal fascia, look into the magazine Sport Truck or Truckin. The additional chrome really looks good (of course in my opinion, I'm sure others will disagree) and has the openings for the factory fog lamps. The full chrome treatment would give the Dakota a more unique look and differentiate it from the ever increasing number of look-alike Dakotas and Durangos. Rick
  • 2drive2drive Posts: 90
    My money is on the likelyhood that the 2001 Dakota Sport will have a one-piece bumper/fascia design similar to the new Ram Sport design that came out with the Ram mid-model updating.
  • themacguythemacguy Posts: 417
    I'm assuming you used a can of either Chevron Techron or BG-44k. This would virtually eliminate the possibility of a fuel delivery or carbon problem. After that, it's probably spark related. Could be a knock sensor malfunction (computer), a loose wire or problem spark plug (pretty complex on the 4.7 engine) or something related to that.

    I had a very similar problem for a year or so on my first (1983) Porsche 944. It's knocking drove me crazy, and I replaced EVERYTHING in the fuel and ignition systems for about a grand. I finally had isolated it to the Motronic engine control unit, then my mechanic cousin noticed someone had 'hot-wired' one of the cooling fans into the Motronic wiring loom... anyway, he fixed it with a 10 cent resistor from Radio Shack and a simple rewiring. Your's will hopefully be somewhat simpler to find (& fix) than that.
  • qc2001qc2001 Posts: 30
    thanks for letting all of us 2001 quaders with the first build date. now i can start finalizing with some of our finances.
    wantaquad: i ordered mine directly after my 200 order was deleted. my salesman sent me the new pages. new options are as follows;

    -new power heated/folding side mirrors
    -front fascia
    -15" and 16" cast al. wheels
    -p255/60r16 on 4x2
    -p265/70r16 on 4x4
    -ip w/ improved h3eater and ac controls
    -corporate steering column(?)
    -front door trim panels
    -power outlet in floor console(buckets only)
    -illuminated center console
    -leather seats(buckets only)
    -interior trim colors(dark slate and taupe)
    -load shedding battery
    -SKIM security system(microchip in key?)
    -electronic transfer case(dial on ip)
    -single-stage air bag
    -electronic PRNDL in 3.9 and 5.9 engines
    -AM/FM/Cassette/CD radio
    -prem. sound cd
    -6 button remote radio controls
    -homelink system in overhaed console

    hope that answers your question.

    hoping to see pricing come out within next week.
    i want to join the owner group as soon as possible with 2001 info
  • steve234steve234 Posts: 460
    I was looking at some news items and found an article that interested me because we had been discussing fly-by-wire throttle on the 4.7L earlier in these forums. An auto group says that within the next 5-8 years, we will be seeing a move to completely fly-by-wire controls, including the throttle, braking and steering. The concept is that in the future, they will make only one model and it will work in both left hand and right hand drive. You just plug the steering wheel into the appropriate side of the dash. They are predicting a move to electric brakes and the elimination of hydraulics. Of course, electric brakes could also become regenative braking and maybe eliminate the alternator? The word is that Mercedes was going to have a FBW car by 05.
    Themacguy:I had wondered if your handled was PPC related. I have a 160Mhz 6360. Not in your league with that G4. My wife wants to get an Imac 400Mhz DVD G3, but I have a problem going from my 17" Sony to a 15". I have also done some road racing. I ran SCCA 'C' Mod against Porsche 914s in a 72 Mercury Comet. I had tweaked the suspension ala 'Bullit'. I could blow the competion away where I could power out, but the tight corners killed me. Have you ever been to Hallett? Maybe we could hold an Owner Rally there and have some real fun.
  • impy2impy2 Posts: 50
    Thanks for your reply. I need to correct myself in a previous post. (#52....the one you replied to. Read it again if you can) I said that the spark knock was still present with 93 octane. After about a using 1/4 tank, the spark knock is completely gone using 93 octane. Now I am stuck between a rock and a hard place. The owners manual says not to use premium, but the engine sounds much better. It says to use only 87 octane, but I get spark knock. With only 2600 miles, wouldn't you say I could rule out a carbon problem. And also rule out the spark plugs as a problem. What does this tell you that It does not "ping" using 93 octane. I would say my timing needs advanced just a little. (if that is possible. I have seen vehicles with no timing, idle, or air fuel dad's Mark VIII and my old Grand Am Quad 4 was like that.) Sorry to drag this subject so far. Thanks for your patience!!!!
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