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Toyota Tundra - Recent Buyers - Vibration Pbm?

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  • rubluetoo1rubluetoo1 Member Posts: 4
    But the facts on them ones keeps gettin out now. Good luck on this one now!
  • rwellbaum2rwellbaum2 Member Posts: 1,006
    Talk about keeping secrets. I hear the latest chevy vibration fix could affect tens of thousands of trucks. They're keeping that TSB real quiet. Seems it involves replacing the entire steering and control arms. More of that great chevy quality, eh Rube?
  • ratboy3ratboy3 Member Posts: 324
    no vibration. My Tacoma has vibration problems sevaral times. It has 61,000+ miles. Fixed the vibration problem when I got the wheels balanced.
  • snowbird4snowbird4 Member Posts: 1
    If you would like to learn more about Tundra vibrations go to tundrasolutions.com.
  • john111john111 Member Posts: 17
    I bought my 2000 Tundra SR5 21 July, l999. On the way home with it the 'door ajar' light wokuld come on, then the door locks unlock plus the dome light would come on. The only way you could extinguish these lights was to stop, open and close doors until they went out. Only thing, you might not go very far until it happen again. I have had it at one dealer five times, and the purchasing dealer, thaat is 200 miles distant once. The problem still comes back, plus I am getting too much wind noise. I have had quite a number of vehicles, and I really like the way this one handles, rides, and also the economy. I went through the 800# and the Toyota man told me to take it back to this one dealer that had already worked on it four times before. The man in customer relations at this deaaler was rather arrogant when I took my truck in, and when I went to pick it up, was quite blunt in telling me what all they had done. I told him in a nice way, "Well, I certainly hoped it was fixed this time." His reply: If that didn't fix it, call the Toyota man at the 800#. In other words, don't bring it back here. Well I thought it was fixed, my road noise was gone, and everything was so nice. After about 700 miles all these problems are back again. Has ANYONE had any problems of thlis sort??? I'm disgusted.

    John111
  • obyoneobyone Member Posts: 7,841
    ever heard of the lemon law? You may want to check it out as your truck qualifies for it. Won't hurt to check it out...

    http://www.autopedia.com/Lemon/

    good luck!
  • f150rulesf150rules Member Posts: 195
    You shakerado and Tindra owners should be very astute to the lemon law. How are them vibrators??

    Maybe Toyota and GM secretly partnered to make such "quality" trucks.
  • shakyshaky Member Posts: 9
    Most Tacoma's are built at Nummi Motors in Fremont, Ca., a Toyota-GM venture.
  • mgrmgr Member Posts: 40
    Yes, I have this problem. I have 6000 miles, and have had the problem since day one. Mine is a SR5 Access Cab, 4X4 V8 with steel wheels and BFG tires. Have been in for service twice and am scheduled back in this week.

    Tech says it has to do with the R&P steering. Funny, when I was in making my appointment, another Tundra 4X4 owner was there with the same problem: vibration at 60mph.

    This is the first PU I have owned that my wife enjoys driving (I also like this truck), so I would like to have the problem solved instead of going back to a Ford.
  • tractiontraction Member Posts: 141
    From a 10/12 AP story that Bridgestone/Firestone
    Inc. "tested a tire model made for two Toyota
    vehicles after small cracks were found on the
    sidewalls, but both companies said Thursday that
    the problems appear to be only cosmetic."

    They said that the " Dueler HT 689 model, size
    P265/70R16, was standard equipment on some of
    Toyota's full-sized Tundra pickup trucks and its
    new 2001 Sequoia sport utility vehicle until last
    month when the cracks were discovered."
  • tractiontraction Member Posts: 141
    "Toyota now refusing to use Bridgestone/Firestone
    tires after discovering cracks

    Toyota has informed Bridgestone/Firestone that it
    will no longer accept tires that fall under the
    Bridgestone Dueler brand name after Toyota
    discovered "abnormal surface cracks"; in new tires
    that come as standard equipment on such models as
    the Toyota Tundra, according to CBS affiliate WWJ
    News Radio in Detroit, MI. Surface cracks, if they do appear on tires, do not usually show until the near the very end of a tires life. This newly discovered problem could also lend to the argument of safety advocacy groups that quality is still an issue at Bridgestone/Firestone."
  • quadrunner500quadrunner500 Member Posts: 2,721
    I still like my Wilderness A/Ts just fine. Ban the Ford Explorer instead!
  • z71billz71bill Member Posts: 1,986
    They moved fast on the tire problem - made the right decision.
  • modvptnlmodvptnl Member Posts: 1,352
    You're sounding like spoog now. LOL!!!

    It certainly is easier to make the right decision after you watch someone else fugg up.
  • arkie6arkie6 Member Posts: 198
    The Bridgestones were standard on the recently released 2001 Tundras. The 2000 models used Dunlops. The TRDs use BFGoodrich tires.
  • z71billz71bill Member Posts: 1,986
    What brand of tire comes on the 4x4 Chevy if you were to order one today? I agree Toyota had an easy decision to make - hind sight is always 20/20. Why is GM taking so long to do the obvious?
  • obyoneobyone Member Posts: 7,841
    Probably because it's not cost effective. Safety be damned.
  • z71billz71bill Member Posts: 1,986
    I don't think it has anything to do with cost.

    GM could charge more for better tires - Lets say Michelins were $150 more (cost to GM) than the deathsones - customers would pay $200 more -I know I would. They still come out ahead.

    Don't get me wrong - I love my Silverado - still think it is the right truck for my needs. But Even Ford is starting to give customers a choice in tires. GM needs to get with the program.
  • obyoneobyone Member Posts: 7,841
    a year or two behind the rest. So they will probably figure it out sometime next year and implement in '02.
  • mgrmgr Member Posts: 40
    Has anyone with this problem had the problem fixed?
  • quadrunner500quadrunner500 Member Posts: 2,721
    By my reckoning, there are about 700+ posts, 20 some odd pages about Shakerundra at the http://www.tundrasolutions.com website. There are many vibration reports, and not much satisfaction with the fixes offered.

    There are owner discussions on everything from buybacks, steering wheel flutters, wheels and tires, rattling doors and shaking bench seats, the infamous 58 mph front end vibration, vibration over bumps, towing vibrations, vibrations in the brakes. Whew!

    You didn't ask for my opinion but I'm giving it anyway. I've considered Tundra before, driven several, been on test drives etc. And while not without appeal potentially, Toyota currently has a real POS on their hands. I wouldn't dare buy one at this point.
  • justtheonejusttheone Member Posts: 403
    Good luck on this one now!
  • rwellbaum2rwellbaum2 Member Posts: 1,006
    Dear Rubluetoo,
    You work in the tobacco industry. An industry which spends millions of dollars to suppress the truth. You make your money off an addictive substance which kills and cripples, just like those exploding chevy Truck gas tanks. You have no morality!
  • rwellbaum2rwellbaum2 Member Posts: 1,006
    Posted by quadrunner:
    "You didn't ask for my opinion but I'm giving it
    anyway."

    Need I say more!! ;)
  • rwellbaum2rwellbaum2 Member Posts: 1,006
    Quadrunner stated that the Tundra site contains over 700 posts about vibrations. What he failed to mention is that over 500 of those posts are by one person..."erkme73". 4-5 others have contributted hundreds of posts as well. Each post on that site contains the name of the poster and the number of posts they have submitted thus far. Over 170,000 Tundras have been sold so far. Obviously, the majority of people are happy with their purchase, unlike some of the chevy loyalists, like Quadrunner and justtheone. In fact, Quadrunner actually had his 2000 Silverado bought back by chevy, under the lemon law, because of numerous defects.
  • dianne4toyotadianne4toyota Member Posts: 343
    Amen.
    I was waiting for someone to point that out. I might add that I moderate the dealer section of Tundra Solutions, and it's a fine site that LonV has given birth to there.

    There are terrific dialogues and sincere help there with folks stepping in to give advice and share engineering and technical thoughts. Sidecross moderates the main board, and he's got years of excellent experience in service and engineering.

    The largesse of the "vibrations" posts is mainly 17 people, with one key person posting who's logged an insane amount of posts, replies, and updates. Frankly, I believe he does it constantly to keep the topic folder at the very top of the board.

    Of the 117 Tundras I have sold since they were introduced, I have sold one shaker. I think that pretty much covers the small percentage of trucks that have the "problem".

    I have sold 5 Tundras to guys who have had Lemon Law rulings in their favor on Chevy Silverados, 4 on Ford F series trucks, one Ford Windstar, and two on Jeep products.

    In the grand scheme of things, I believe that Toyota's doing all they can to make things right for these guys.

    Quadrunn, I'd try a 2001 Tundra road test. Or, perhaps have a soda, kick back, and wait for the Sequoia to debut. That new rig will bowl you over. It's awesome.

    -Dianne
    dianne@earthlink.net
  • quadrunner500quadrunner500 Member Posts: 2,721
    No...still have it.
    Robbie, you are a serial exaggerator.

    Diane,
    The vibration posts I read on your site seem quite honest, and sincere. In my opinion, they speak for themselves.
  • rwellbaum2rwellbaum2 Member Posts: 1,006
    Quad,
    I read your posts about your Silverado buyback, long before you deleted them. Nice try though!!
  • justtheonejusttheone Member Posts: 403
    Them tells of Quad be the truth. Them truths on them ones be stingin some folks, so they be strechin that truth, pullin it this way and that. But the truth just keeps gettin out, and thats the fact on that. Good luck on this one now!
  • rwellbaum2rwellbaum2 Member Posts: 1,006
    You have no concept of truth. Your boss, Phillip Morris, has lied before congress time and again. You don't even drive a truck anymore because of your age. You've never driven a Tundra. So why don't you stick to topics you know about! Like what type of additives make cigerettes the most addictive.
  • bamatundrabamatundra Member Posts: 1,583
    This topic has been open for almost 4 months. There is only one poster - mgr that owns a Tundra and has had a vibration problem. The majority of the 90 posts to this group has been by disgruntled Shakerado owners.

    Since the beginning of the year there have been over 2500 posts about Chevy vibrations. It seems that they have a much more serious problem.

    Toyota Tundra - winner of the 2000 J.D. Powers award for best quality in a full size pickup.

    Toyota Tundra - rated by consumer reports as having the best predicted reliability in 2000 pickups.

    Toyota - Rated in a tie with BMW for 3rd best manufacturer in initial quality behind Lexus and Infiniti.

    Shakerado - rated -90% in predicted reliability by Consumer Reports. Off their charts!

    Shakerado - '99 rated as a used vehicle to avoid. Wow! that was quick. Must make Quad feel real good about selling that lemon of his.

    Shakerado - Rated 26th as a manufacturer by J.D. Powers in initial quality. Down there struggling to stay ahead of Hyundai.

    I feel sorry for the poor saps that Chevy suckered into buying that expensive junk. Now they feel that they have to make a pest of themselves in Tundra topics. That is what I call sour grapes. Oh Well!
  • obyoneobyone Member Posts: 7,841
    oh boy...

    And sour grapes....actually sour puss sounds better.
  • justtheonejusttheone Member Posts: 403
    That truth on them tundras be slappin em hard now, and it be stingin but good. So much for that "quality myth" on them ones now. Just this years t100, thats all. They all be gone soon enough, all used up and such. When was the last time any folk even seen a t100? Yet them big3 ones go on and on, folks still be workin them ones hard, year after year. Just use your eyes to judge that truth on this tell. Good luck on this one now!
  • rwellbaum2rwellbaum2 Member Posts: 1,006
    Rube,
    You were kicked off Edmunds for your ignorant, bigoted ranting. Seems you don't learn to well. You talk and talk about some "truth" while you hide the fact that you make your money off cancer crops. You have no concept of truth. Your boss, Phillip Morris, has lied before congress time and again. They evade and deny about how they manipulate the nicotine to make it an even more addictive drug.
    You don't even drive a truck anymore because of
    your age related palsy. You've never driven a Tundra. So why don't you stick to topics you know about! Like what type of additives make cigerettes the most addictive.
  • modvptnlmodvptnl Member Posts: 1,352
    Go for the throat boy!!!!!!!


    My wife has been involved with a few of the Tobacco litigation cases here in Nevada. My heart goes out to these poor slobs that have legitimate illness. But Geeez Robbie, no one put a gun to their heads to smoke the crap.
  • quadrunner500quadrunner500 Member Posts: 2,721
    >>>#87 of 94: (rwellbaum2) Thu 19 Oct '00 (09:56 AM)

    Quad,
    I read your posts about your Silverado buyback,
    long before you deleted them. Nice try though!!
    <<<
    ************************************

    No deleted posts from me. And no buyback either. You are either confused, or deluded.

    If you insist on being an idiot, I'll snap a digital picture of it with tomorrows Wall St. Journal. You can compare it to the pictures I posted last February at <A HREF="http://members.aol.com/sturbridg1/utahtrek.html">http://members.aol.com/sturbridg1/utahtrek.html
  • quadrunner500quadrunner500 Member Posts: 2,721
    ...which is about Shakerundras.

    Can someone explain why there are 700+ posts about it on the http://www.tundrasolutions.com website?

    More than any other topic?

    20+ pages worth?

    About 50 posts in a separate topic "Vibrationless Tundras" are from owners who state they don't have vibrations. Now what do you suppose is their motivation? To disprove the others? By 14 to 1, there are more owners reporting vibration problems than there are owners denying it.

    And Robbie, Bama, if you didn't think there are vibration problems, you wouldn't be reading this thread, since as owners...you should know. I have more to say about that after I first point out the ridiculous suggestion of the dealer section moderator, Diane, who suggests I take a test drive in a Sequoia? Can all Toyota owners be this clueless? Apparently, there is no distinction between an SUV and a pickup truck. No wonder you can't see the difference between a wee truck and a full size.

    But I digress. Because there are only 2 reasons for so much discussion about shaking, vibrating Tundras on the http://www.tundrasolutions.com website.

    Toyota either CAN'T fix the problem, or WON'T fix the problem. Which is it?

    I'll tell you what. They have a BIG problem on their hands, and just like Mitsubishi was famous for, sweeping it under the rug. You guys figure it out...hub centric, lug centric, or just eccentric!

    700+ posts....Rube, forgive me but...

    Good luck on this one now!
  • justtheonejusttheone Member Posts: 403
    Quad has them ways to cut threw that factory smoke and get that truth out. Funny how when that truth starts gettin spoke, them tundra folks start attackin the messenger. Guess that truth be stingin a bit. Facts is facts now. Good luck on this one now!
  • rwellbaum2rwellbaum2 Member Posts: 1,006
    This is one just one of many sites dedicated to the Lemorado:

    http://agmlemon.freeservers.com/

    ROTFLMFAO!!!!
    P.S. Quad, I'm sorry your buyback attempt was unsuccessful. Yes, please snap that picture with the front page of the Wall St. Journal.
  • toytunonetoytunone Member Posts: 56
    got a Shakerado buyback in August, 00. As did risch, timoliver2, scrappy6, tiredofwaiting, white6, danog, steveguitar, ovalley, xbbuster, kingfishgus, tarhll, and harleydude. So far, anyway. Check out topic 2158. Also check this out:

    72 of 107: kit1404...without sounding prejudiced (obyone) Sun 24 Sep '00 (09:40 PM)

    nor too opinionated. Why would edmunds do a
    credible job. If we look closely at their
    evaluations, there are a lot of contridictions. To
    me any evaluation is highly opinionated. Whether GM
    trucks came out first or Dodge, it should be taken
    with a grain of salt. Just the fact that you
    decided to post a ford comment in a silverado
    buyback topic tells me that either you are looking
    to get flamed or lack the sensitivity to understand
    what the owners of these trucks are going through.
    Either way your opinion is just that. Another
    opinion.

    Continuing, what has edmunds done in their
    evaluation that I as a consumer should give their
    evaluation a second thought? You state that edmunds
    has done a credible job. How? You state that it
    would be hard to dispute their opinions/findings.
    Opinions are just that, opinions and will always be
    subject to criticism. Findings? Exactly what
    findings would be hard to dispute? Their evaluation
    would not sway anyone who owns another brand that
    they are happy with to ford. Nor does their
    evaluation have any convincing evidence to support
    ford as their #1 choice. One last thing, please
    explain to me what "I read a lot of car/truck mags
    and most of the consumer stuff too" have anything
    to do with "Edmunds does a credible job on their
    tests" as I see no relevance between the two. The
    problem with any "evaluation" is that objective
    "data" is mixed in with subjective "opinion" of the
    authors rendering the evaluation useless.

    I look forward to your response....
    Good luck on this one now!!


    Sounds like Rube? Also he seems a little sensitive about this Ford drivers "lack of sensitivity to understand what the owners of these trucks are going through."
  • rwellbaum2rwellbaum2 Member Posts: 1,006
    Yes I like my Tundra!
    About the gun-to-the-head. Normally, I'd agree! One should take responsibility for their actions, but....
    The tobacco companies have manipulated an already addictive substance and made it highly addictive. Did you know that cigarettes can be more addictive than heroin? They use ammonia enhancers along with other chemicals which send the substance across the blood/brain barrier in droves, creating one of the most potent addictive qualities of any known drug. I think GM uses similar methods to create chevy Truck addicts (they know it's bad for them, they just can't stop) ;)
  • rwellbaum2rwellbaum2 Member Posts: 1,006
    Rube,
    You talk a lot about factory smoke. Ironic!! You best keep your mind off the Tundra, which you can never own and get back to peddlin' them cancersticks to the next generations of addicts.
  • modvptnlmodvptnl Member Posts: 1,352
    No I didn't know that. I read one of my wife's transcripts of a man that later died less than a month later. His excuse for the addiction was things like he wanted to be like the Marlboro Man and be "cool" like his friends. He'd admitted that he'd seen the Surgeon General's warning since the beginning but it didn't apply to him. Sort of like if you got hurt hang gliding(God forbid) and sued the hang glider maker because the "addiction" of flying was too much to control.

    Your last sentence and it's theory I figured is what Toy used, but in a subliminal sound system coming from a hidden sound generator. At least in spoog's case LOL!!
  • justtheonejusttheone Member Posts: 403
    Got this tell off that tundra forum now:

    I recently bought a 2001 v8 access cab 4x4
    and I notice a vibration at about 45 mph

    Good luck on this one now!
  • obyoneobyone Member Posts: 7,841
    I thank you for reposting what I thought was one of my better posts that didn't get deleted by Meredeath. One point to clear up though...Quad not I have gone through buyback. Even Bama know this. I was disappointed that kit1404 didn't respond to my follow up post.

    On the cigarette issue, did you ever noticed the similarities when watching the execs from the tobacco industry testify before congress and the testimony of Nasser and the CEO of bridgestone. You should cause they are all responsible for killing people...

    Lastly, I'm glad that Bama doesn't post as soon as rwell does...that way they don't appear to be one and the same.

    A last piece of advice....toytunone...if you have deathstones on that explorer that you own, dump 'em before they catch ya.
  • obyoneobyone Member Posts: 7,841
    The previous post of mine shoud read " Quad nor I...."
  • toytunonetoytunone Member Posts: 56
    going through buyback with the Better Business Bureau, if you didn't go through with it, what happened? Do you still own your original Silverado? Did you ever own a Silverado?

    About the Xploder, yes I have gravestones on it, Michelins are on order at the Ford Dealer. When I think about all the highway trips I've made in it, sometimes cruising for hours at 85 mph, I'm lucky to be alive.
  • obyoneobyone Member Posts: 7,841
    According to the aforementioned survey, you might want to drive a M1A1 on the next visit downtown...LOL!!

    toytunone

    Contemplated buyback...met with dealer GM, ESM, Shop foreman, and factory tech. We reviewed the problems as the dealer was getting no where on the vibration issue, similar to the people on tundrasolutions.com, so a proposed final attempt was to be made and if no resolution, voluntary buyback on GM's part without arbitration. Fortunate for all of us, the final fix worked. In this event, GM had agreed to buyback as looking over all the workorders involved, it would have been in their best interest as they would have saved money rather than to try and continue. The biggest impact, as it often is, is the dealer involvement. The dealer has tremendous influence over the buyback decision as they are the people who work on the truck.

    If you had read some of Cliffy's posts, the dealership's make more of a difference in getting resolutions to Tun problems than Toyota itself. What a lot of owners don't understand in resolving warranty issues is that they need to "make a friend" within their service department. Maybe that's a fault of ours in "demanding" service. If more owners read Carnigie's, How to Win Friends and Influence People, there would be less outstanding warranty issues with these trucks.

    Today, I'm driving a '01 Dakota Quad Cab. Great truck...if you can forget about Dodge's history of quality. And to answer your question I own and still own a '00 Silverado.
  • toytunonetoytunone Member Posts: 56
    up your Silverado buyback/ownership debacle since it wasn't clear from reading topic 2128 "Vibrating Silverado Buyback".
    I sincerely apologize for disparaging remarks vis-a-vis your buyback mystery.
    BTW, what was the date of your final resolution with GM, and did you get a guarantee they would buyback the truck if the "fix" didn't work?
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