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GMC Jimmy Chevy Envoy Fuel Gauge Problem
86K miles.
Wife's car.
When she fills it up, it reads full.
Then, it will read wherever it wants.
We just left a store and it read 3/4. 2 miles later pulling into our driveway it read 1/2.
Any recalls or anyone else have this problem and know the "fix"??
Hope it's not the sender...I don't wanna drop another tank as I recently did on my '91 Jimmy.
TIA
jonny
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Wife's car.
When she fills it up, it reads full.
Then, it will read wherever it wants.
We just left a store and it read 3/4. 2 miles later pulling into our driveway it read 1/2.
Any recalls or anyone else have this problem and know the "fix"??
Hope it's not the sender...I don't wanna drop another tank as I recently did on my '91 Jimmy.
TIA
jonny
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I have had a 99 and 2000 Savana, both with this same issue. I've researched the internet to find 1000's of complaints, but very few to GM. People need to call GM and complain! Then maybe they'd figure out there's a problem. Without data from customers, GM won't do squat for those of us that do call them. They assume there's no problem because few people call and complain. Even if you do it yourself or go to an independent mechanic, call GM customer service 800 462-8782 and tell them your issue.
GM knows...there was a TSB but not a recall 'cause it was NOT a "safety issue".
I STRONLY DISAGREE!!! When my wife is stranded on the interstate up against a "Jersey Barrier" (in the fast lane)during rush hour traffic it IS a "SAFETY ISSUE"!!!
>8-(
I replaced it myself. Found the sensor online for $68 when all the STEELerships wanted $130.
One STEELership lied to me and told me I had to buy the whole pump/sensor unit $580!!!!!
I NEVER bring my cars to STEELerships!!! I do all my own work on my 12 vehicles.
I mount and balance my own rubber as well.
The ONLY thing I let someone do is a front end alignment on my wife's car.
I align all my vehicles myself.
Oh one other thing...emissions...I have to let a "monkey" drive my BMWs' airdams into the ramps!!!!!!!!!!!1111111
>8-(
But How?
Thanks,
Gary
Powhatan, VA
On my 200 Envoy..I drove the driver's side of the car up on ramps (as the fuel tank is located on the driver's side inside the frame rail.
It's best if there is NO FUEL in the tank!!!
2 metal straps hole it up in place. Spray the thread with PB Blaster for 1/2 a day to soak (one of mine **SNAPPED** and I had to mod./fab. another strap.)
Slowly drop the tank, cutting any wires ties holding the fuel lines/wires to the frame....along with unclamoing fuel fill/vents and pulling off.
Once you get 'er down...unhook hoses/wires and slide it out.
Now remove the pump/sender pickup unit from the tank.
Remove the faulty sender and install the new...bunch of funky clips and wires that unplug. Reinstall.
Reverse prosess of tank, using a floor jack and /or 5 gal. buckets/blocks of wood too support it until you can get the straps started to thread.
My tank was plastic & empty of fuel, but it still was a PITA!
I saved $600+ doing it myself.
good luck and report back with your success.
jonny
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thanks
PS got another prob also Passenger low beam burnt out (HID) anyone know of anyplace I can get a new one. steelership wants like 850
Thanks
Snowstorm1
link title
SK1188 Fuel Lvl Sensor Kit $140.17 $82.51
Fuel Sending Switch;Except Sender, robust fuel sys (K53); Years: 2000-2000;Qty Per Vehicle
link title
Item Price Core Total
ACDELCO Part # SK1186 {#19121293}
SENSOR KIT,FUEL LVL 4 DOOR; w/o SENDER,ROBUST FUEL SYS (K53)
$77.79 $0.00 $77.79
ACDELCO Part # SK1188 {#19121300}
SENSOR KIT,FUEL LVL 2 DOOR; w/o SENDER,ROBUST FUEL SYS (K53)
$82.79 $0.00 $82.79
GM knows...there was a TSB but not a recall 'cause it was NOT a "safety issue".
I STRONLY DISAGREE!!! When my wife is stranded on the interstate up against a "Jersey Barrier" (in the fast lane)during rush hour traffic it IS a "SAFETY ISSUE"!!!
>8-(
I replaced it myself. Found the sensor online for $68 when all the STEELerships wanted $130.
One STEELership lied to me and told me I had to buy the whole pump/sensor unit $580!!!!!
I NEVER bring my cars to STEELerships!!! I do all my own work on my 12 vehicles.
What your email??
I'm pissed as hell @ GM for not repairing this under a TSB warranty!
j.foster62@juno.com
I just did my 2000 envoy's sending unit an dit cost me like 200 and 1.1 hrs labour
the kit can be bought right at any chev/gmc dealer . its not the whole sending /pump its just called a repair kit
hope this helps my fellow gmc/chev ppl out there
Snowman
The only reason for me to walk into a STealership would be to BURN IT DOWN!!!!!
I don't think any tranny work could've caused it as it's inside the tank.
Maybe they gave the tank a good HIT, but it's plastic and should absorb the blow.
BUT, you never know...it was due to go and an "innocent" hit could have been the straw that broke the preverbial camels back.
jonny
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My envoy fuel guage problem was similar to those mentioned - eratic needle, only works at certain levels.
Anywho, just wanted to write that the cost for the float level sensor through our local mechanic was $139. The labor was about $400. Total cost was $539. While this may seem high, we've been using the same mechanic for the last 14 years, so I have to beleive they were fair.
Anyways, now this info is available for those looking.
Thanks.
_____________________________________________________________________
I'm assuming you read all the previous threads??
It's preetty much explained in detail I do believe??
Allen
Can you say "Bull$hit!!"
There was a "silent recall "on the senders.
I bought a sender only on line for around $85.
Replaced it myself. (2000 GMC Envoy)
STEALERSHIP said "entire pump" as well and wanted $850+ to do the job.
Check your year and model.
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/x,carcode,1362888,parttype,10729
ACDELCO Part # SK1186 {#19121293}
SENSOR KIT,FUEL LVL 4 DOOR; w/o ROBUST FUEL SYS SENDER(K53)
$95.79
ACDELCO Part # SK1188 {#19121300, 25314231, SK1008}
SENSOR KIT,FUEL LVL 2 DOOR; w/o ROBUST FUEL SYS SENDER(K53)
$100.79
IT APPEARS THEY HAVE GONE UP $10 IN THE LAST 3 YEARS??? :mad:
3 YEARS LATER...THE PUMP WENT...i GOT THE ENTIRE ASSY. AT A JUNKYARD FOR $100 AND REPLACED THE ENTIRE THING AGAIN. i HAVE THE $85 SENDER I BOUGHT THE FIRST TIME AROUND AS A SPARE IN CASE THE JUNKYARD ONE GOES BAD.
but no start ..gas gauge still reads empty...used a OBD2 code reader but it dosent finish tests ..has yellow light and flashes C EV 2A for 20 mins....any help thx :lemon:
tidester, host
SUVs and Smart Shopper
I am from GM Customer Service. Have you had a dealership look at your gas gauge? What is the VIN, and the current mileage on the vehicle? Thank you,
Mariah GM Customer Service
Here is the number that you requested-1-800-462-8782. If you have any further questions please let me know. Thank you,
Mariah GM Customer Service
Thank you for the information. Have you taken the vehicle to the dealership to have it diagnosed? Is the problem intermittent or all the time? Thank you,
Mariah GM Customer Service
I can actually set up a case with GM for you. So that we can have one of our agents look into the situation for you. They are going to request that you take the vehicle to the dealership to have the issue diagnosed. I will need your contact information, dealership, and if you have an extended warranty or not. You can email me this information, so I can get the process going. Thank you,
Mariah GM Customer Service
GM should be repairing the sending units free of charge!
My wife's 2000 Envoy did the same thing.
This should have been a RECALL! It could have been an emergency situation if my wife ran out of gas on I-95 during rush hour while in the fast lane of travel.
STEALERSHIPS want $580.00 to $800.00 to change entire pump/sending unit!
I found a sending unit online for $68 and did the job myself!
And I might add...it was a PITA> One of the fuel tank securing straps SNAPPED because it was RUSTED. I had to replace that as well!!
READ EVERY POST FROM THE BEGINNING REGARDING THIS.
jonnyring, "2000 Jimmy/Envoy Fuel Gauge Problem" #1, 24 Sep 2006 5:58 am
I apologize for the concerns you have had with your vehicle. Unfortunately dealerships are independently owned and operated, and we don't have control over what they charge to fix vehicles. I will document your concern and pass that along to GM. You can email me at socialmedia@gm.com if you have any other concerns you would like me to document. Thank you,
Mariah GM Customer Service
That has NOTHING to do with this!.
I believe there was a TSB on the level sender gauge problem, yet no RECALL!
That is the problem. GM should be paying STEALERSHIPS to fix every bad sender.
I was just addressing your statement in your post about the dealerships. I can understand your frustration with the situation. I have also documented what you have posted and forwarded the information to GM. I understand that you want a recall for the part; however I cannot force a recall. All I can do at this point is document your concern and give it to GM. Thank you,
Mariah GM Customer Service
Thank you for getting back to me. Let me know how it goes with the dealership tomorrow. If they are have any trouble finding a fix then I will look into the issue further. Thank you,
Mariah GM Customer Service
I am from GM Customer Service. When you said you took the vehicle for a test run, did you mean that you have taken the vehicle to the dealership already? Can you please email me with more information, so I can look into this further? You can access my email by clicking on my name. Thank you,
Mariah GM Customer Service
What're you doing here anyhow? Do you get paid to "Passify" everyone on any/every forum regarding a problem that should've been a RECALL to begin with? This has been an ongoing problem for 9-10 years now ...and after reading this entire thread from THE BEGINNING almost everyone has fixed this FUEL SENDER PROBLEM OUT OF THEIR OWN POCKET either from the extortionistic STEALERSHPS or like myself....ran the tank empty....jacked up the driver side of the vehicle...snapped a rusted fuel tank retaining strap, and either replaced the sender or sender and pump?
Myself being a handyman mechanic, got off easy with a $68.00 (replacement sender) and 3+ hours labor (free) of my weekend.
You are not part of the solution...you are merely a representative of the problem who has no authority to do "the right thing" and demand a RECALL.
It's nice of you to visit us and provide useless information, but IMO. you have done nothing to resolve this problem, nor have have the authority to do so.
What is your annual $$'s? I'll take job any day.
jon
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I am having the same issue with my 2007 Envoy gas guage. My low fuel light comes on and bings for what seems like forever. Who would I contact in Canada from GM? I assume I have to take it to the dealership again? Do you extended warranty for it to get fixed? I know it is probably be different in Canada.
Thanks
Jennifer
You would contact this number: Customer Communication Centre:
1-800-263-3777 (English)
1-800-263-7854 (French)
Customer Communication Centre hours of operation are:
Monday to Friday: 8:00 a.m. to 11:00 p.m. (E.S.T.)
Saturday: 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. (E.S.T.)
Closed Sundays
You will speak to an agent who will most likely tell you to take it to the dealership to have it diagnosed. As far as the warranty I am not familiar with how it works in Canada, unfortunately I can only assist U.S. customers with warranty questions. However, your agent should be able to address those questions with you. Thank you,
Mariah GM Customer Service
I apologize that you take my presence here on this forum to be offensive. As you well know I cannot issue a recall simply because you request one. One of the main ways that recalls happen is by customers reporting issues. I do document those issues as I hear about them. So yes, I would like to think that I am part of the solution and not the problem. I am here to assist our customers to the best of my ability. Thank you for your comments Jon, and have a wonderful weekend.
Mariah GM Customer Service
Not "offensive"...just typical, rhetorical, bureaucratical "Customer Service" uselessness.
People come here to see if other's are having the same (or similar) problems ... find the answers (solutions) to their problems and to see how to go about fixing them. All this has been addressed from the beginning of this thread since i started it on Sep 24, 2006, and pretty much now the issue has been diagnosed, answered and repaired by everyone.
Now 3 1/2 years later, you chime in with "call your dealer to diagnose it"
Your rhetorical:
"....contact this number: Customer Communication Centre:
...speak to an agent who will most likely tell you to take it to the dealership to have it diagnosed..
Have you taken the vehicle to the dealership to have it diagnosed?
...we can have one of our agents look into the situation for you. They are going to request that you take the vehicle to the dealership to have the issue diagnosed.
I will document your concern and pass that along to GM., blah, blah, blah..."
....is too little/too late.
I know you're just doing your job, but hands-on knowledge of this problem has already been discussed here and it is now pretty much a "dead issue".
I think your services could be used and much more useful somewhere else..... (possibly the beginning posts of a new problem in a NEW thread?)
Long List of TSB'S for Chevy TrailBlazer, TrailBlazer SS and GMC Envoy
04-02-32-001C 07/26/2007 Steering Gear - Stub Shaft Bearing Kit Available
05-06-04-022D 07/26/2007 Fuel System - TOP TIER Gasoline Usage (Canada)
07-08-50-015 07/23/2007 Interior - Power Seat(s) Inoperative/Binds/Jams/Noisy
06-08-50-009B 07/19/2007 Restraints - Front Passenger Seat Accessory Precautions
05-08-44-005A 07/19/2007 Entertainment System - Headphone Foam Pad Replacement
07-09-41-005 07/10/2007 Restraints - Air Bag Lamp ON/DTC B0092 Set
05-08-46-009B 06/29/2007 OnStar(R) - Language Change Information
06-08-43-002B 06/29/2007 Wipers/Washers - Delayed Windshield Washer Fluid Spray
07-00-89-027 06/26/2007 Accessory Package - Cargo Capacity Reduction Label
07-08-110-005 06/25/2007 Interior - Headliner Sagging Near Dome Lamp
07-08-44-001A 06/25/2007 Audio System - Difficult To Install Fixed Antenna Mast
06-06-02-014A 06/25/2007 Cooling System - Radiator/Heater Hose Clamp Inspection
99-08-64-016B 06/22/2007 Body - Use of Silicone for Weatherstrip Maintenance
00-06-01-026B 06/21/2007 Intake Manifold - Inspect/Replace After Engine Damage
07-06-04-019 06/21/2007 Engine Controls - MIL ON/Reduced Power/DTC P2138
06-08-44-012B 06/19/2007 Navigation System - DVD Navigation Update Program
04-05-25-002D 06/14/2007 Brakes - ABS Lamp ON/DTC's C0265/C0201/U1041
05-09-40-002B 06/13/2007 Restraints - Seat Belt Normal Locking Conditions
03-06-04-030E 06/12/2007 Fuel System - Driveability Issues/MIL ON/DTC's Set
05-06-01-022B 06/11/2007 Engine - Oil Leak from Rear of Crankshaft
06-08-43-003A 06/08/2007 Wipers - Performance/Cleaning Instructions/Maintenance
07-04-17-001 06/06/2007 Drivetrain - Rear End Bump/Thump on Braking
06-08-59-002B 06/04/2007 Body - Liftgate Glass Squeaks When Opening
05-07-30-021A 06/04/2007 A/T - Can't Remove Key From Ignition Lock Cylinder
02-06-03-008C 05/30/2007 Charging System - Lights Dim/Low Voltage Display
99-01-39-004B 05/29/2007 A/C - Odors In Hot/Humid Conditions
03-00-89-008C 05/24/2007 Body - Metal Panel Corrosion Protection
02-08-46-006B 05/23/2007 OnStar(R) - Incorrect GPS Location Reported During Call
00-00-90-002G 05/18/2007 Tires - Proper Inflation Pressure Info.
00-05-22-002J 05/15/2007 Disc Brake System - Warranty Service and Procedures
06-00-89-029B 05/09/2007 Interior - Cleaning Seats, Carpet, Leather, Vinyl
05-06-01-026A 05/07/2007 Engine - Broken Head Bolt/Main Cap Bolt Removal
07-07-30-010 05/03/2007 A/T Controls - Snapshot Data Information
07-07-30-008 05/01/2007 A/T - 4L60-E/4L65-E/4L70-E Production Update
03-08-111-002F 04/30/2007 Body - Paint Chipping By Wheel Openings
05-08-51-008B 04/23/2007 Body - Bumps or Rust Colored Spots in Paint
06-06-04-016B 04/20/2007 Emissions - SES Lamp ON/DTC P0411 Stored
07-03-10-008 04/17/2007 Tires - Slight/Mild Tire Feathering information
07-08-44-007 04/17/2007 Navigation System - Replacement Navigation Discs
07-08-63-001 04/17/2007 Body - Polypropylene Energy Absorber Replacement
05-06-01-010A 04/16/2007 Engine - Sealant Usage/procedures
06-01-39-002B 04/12/2007 A/C - Front Blower Motor Inop/Won't Shut OFF
01-06-01-011D 04/03/2007 Engine - Oil Consumption Guideline Info.
07-08-98-001 04/02/2007 Body - Non-Approval of 'Clipping' for Collision Repair
02-08-42-004A 03/30/2007 Instruments - Reduced PRNDL Display Visibility
03-08-64-006C 03/29/2007 Body - Door(s) Are Difficult To Close
02-08-46-007B 03/13/2007 OnStar(R) - Loses GPS/Can't Renew Hands-Free Minutes
04-08-66-001D 02/27/2007 Body - License Plate Pocket Gasket Out of Position/Loose
07005 02/16/2007 Campaign - Possible Fuel Sender Port Fracture
05-07-129-001B 02/16/2007 A/T - Shift Lock Control Actuator Available
05-03-10-005B 02/07/2007 Wheels/Tires - 'Upsized' Wheel & Tire Information
04-07-30-013B 02/01/2007 Engine, A/T - Shift/Driveability Concerns/MIL ON
06-00-89-051A 01/24/2007 Locks - Key Code Securtiy Rules & Information
02-08-98-002B 01/17/2007 Body - Hem Flange Repair
06-06-01-017C 01/16/2007 Engine - In-Vehicle Cylinder Head Service Procedure
06-06-04-048B 01/12/2007 Ignition System - MIL ON/Misfire DTC's In Wet Weather
04-06-04-054A 01/11/2007 Engine Controls - Aftermarket Accessory Usage
05-07-30-018A 01/11/2007 A/T - Cold Weather Shift Characteristics
00-03-10-006B 01/10/2007 Tires - Radial Force Variation (RFV) Information
99-09-40-005D 12/20/2006 Restraints - Availability of Seat Belt Extenders
03-07-30-007C 12/19/2006 A/T - Seemingly Slow 'Garage' Shifts
06-08-51-005 12/14/2006 Body - Hem Flange Sealer for Corrosion Protection
06-08-52-003A 12/12/2006 Body - L/H Front Door Won't Lock/Unlock With Key
02-07-30-001E 12/07/2006 A/T - Diagnostic Info on DTCs P0894/P1870
03-04-17-002A 12/06/2006 Drivetrain - Whine Noise from Rear Axle
06-00-89-054 11/30/2006 Warranty - Claims Submission
06-05-22-007 11/30/2006 Brakes - Rotor/Drum Refinishing Labor Operations
04-06-01-029A 11/28/2006 Engine - Unnecessary Flushing Services
04-06-04-047G 11/28/2006 Fuel System - TOP TIER Detergent Gasoline
06-08-110-003A 11/27/2006 Interior - Headliner Sag at Rear of Sunroof
06-03-99-001 11/27/2006 Suspension - Diagnosis/Repair of Rear Air Suspension
06-00-89-050 11/22/2006 Warranty - DTC's Required On Repair Orders
06-01-39-012 11/09/2006 Engine Controls - A/C Not Cold/MIL ON/DTC P0116 Set
03-08-48-006A 11/08/2006 A/C - Rear Window Defroster Tab Repair
04-08-49-015A 11/06/2006 Instruments - Noises From The Instrument Cluster
CON'T..........................
04-03-10-001C 10/02/2006 Tires - Tread Puncture Repair Procedures
05-03-07-009A 09/28/2006 Wheel Alignment - Recommendations/Requirements
04-03-10-012A 09/22/2006 Wheels - Pitting/Brake Dust On Chrome Wheels
06-06-02-010B 09/22/2006 Engine Controls - MIL ON/DTC P0483 Set
05-00-89-078A 09/14/2006 Fuel System - GM Fuel System Treatment Plus(R)
06-08-46-005 09/13/2006 OnStar(R) - Hearing Impaired System Availability
00-08-48-005B 09/12/2006 Body - Distortion On Outer Glass Surfaces
01-07-30-038D 09/12/2006 A/T - Poor Performance/MIL ON/DTC P0757
06-08-111-004 09/08/2006 Body - Exterior Emblem Discoloration/Peeling/Blistering
06-03-10-010 09/07/2006 Wheels - Changing Procedures/Precautions
05-06-02-002A 08/31/2006 Cooling System - DEXCOOL(R) Leak Detection Dye
06-03-08-011 08/28/2006 Suspension - Revised Shock Module Replacement
03-07-29-004C 08/28/2006 M/T - Normal Operating Characteristics
03-03-10-007B 08/17/2006 Tires - Original Equipment Tire Characteristics
00-06-02-006D 08/15/2006 Cooling System - Coolant Recycling Information
06-06-04-037 08/04/2006 Engine Controls - MIL Function During I/M Testing
00-03-10-002D 08/01/2006 Wheels Chrome Wheel Chemical Staining/Pitting/Corrosion
06-01-39-007 07/25/2006 A/C - Contaminated R134A Refrigerant
89358 11/01/1988 Battery - Diagnosis and Charging
There is also this Recall that showed up. Again, not sure if this is already in the Resources
Campaign - Possible Fuel Sender Port Fracture
Notes
Subject:
Service Update for Inventory and Customer Vehicles-Fuel Sending Unit Port Fracture-
This is not a "possible fracture" in the sending units.....it is a fracture!
you have a nice weekend as well!
jonny
I apologize that you are having a concern with your vehicle. Can you please email me your VIN? You can get my email by clicking on gmcustsvc. Thank you,
Mariah GM Customer Service