Chevy Vs. Ford, Express your true feelings!!!
just0072002
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I dont really hate chevy but i hate people who
hate Fords, therefore MOST people who drive chevys
hate Fords, know what im sayin!!!
Well screw chevys and ford haters anyway!!
hate Fords, therefore MOST people who drive chevys
hate Fords, know what im sayin!!!
Well screw chevys and ford haters anyway!!
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topic is here on a very limited time frame. oh
yeah, why is it that most people that drive furds
don't just hate chevy owners that supposedly hate
ford but they seem to hate everything?
"meredith comith and meredith will killith"
...red
I'm happy with my truck. If you're not happy with your truck, I'm sorry. It's too bad that you can't brag about your truck.
My truck is the best; but there's nothing wrong with your truck. I just like mine better.
My truck is ..... Nah, it doesn't matter because I'm sure you like your truck better than mine.
(Sort of like a Los Angelino's view of San Francisco.)
Rich
Actually I thought for sure Ryan would have started it...LOL
I prefer chevy...but hate ford?..no..They are the 2 best Auto makers out there...all in all I put them about equal...with Chevy being better looking (to me..so shut up)...
The two companys play leap frog every few years in designs and engines..etc...like right now Chevy has the engine advantage...especially with the Duramax and 8.1. Now before they stunk with the 6.5...but Ford will have something better...then Chevy..then Ford...
Now Dodge?...they are off playing solitare or something?....who cares...they never have been considered competition.....The debate always has been Chevy VS Ford....always will be
Me and a buddy both had similar 88 chevy's...mine went like hell and had very good reliability factor...he put 3 engines in...should I say Chevy sucks due to his probs?...no..look at mine...
The idiots that get a bad one...then do nothing but cry and tell the world that brand sucks need to grow up...look around this entire site..you will find just as many Ford problems as Chevys...nothings perfect.
Kill this topic Meredith!
- Tim
While I'm here though... I think that Ford has the best looking trucks, especially the Super Duty. Of course I'm biased I've owned more Ford's than any other trucks. Currently F250,sc,4x4,V10.
By the way you said that Chebby has the advantage with the 8.1. I'm curious, I've heard about it but I haven't heard any numbers on it. Do you know them? If this topic does get frozen you can reply at #1849 if you don't mind.
This is posted light-heartedly, all in fun.
haha its a first huh?
Ryan
dodge guys just can't read.
- Tim
HMM main reason comfort in the cab. Backseat room (boy did that come in handy this weekend haha). Overall looks not just a little bowtie
Ryan
BTW, one of the reasons I bought the rado was cab size in an extended cab. If the Tundra had the best extended cab I would have considered it. I'm not loyal to GM, far from it. Just bought what suited my needs....hmm, didn't you state the same thing over and over and over....and over....
..after all....you don't care about that...
Talk about blind loyalty...
- Tim
Why would you throw in the tundra in this conversation?
Ryan
LOL
- Tim
Hmm...??? Maybe that's why they made the cab a little bigger, so when you carry people back there they have room to crawl over to the other side.
6.0 is a great 1/2 ton? DUH they dont offer it in the 1/2 ton. Also cdean started this with the 5.3 vs the 5.4??? Why do you keep on harping about the 6.0 and v10 then???
The 6.0 gets better mpg than the V10 guarenteed.
You can think that logos are all I buy...but it's not true...(some people do...with all brands).
In every debate there is a whiner...and I think you may be it?
...but that still doesn't change the fact that in some kind of way i still consider all here a friend of mine in one way or another...and would buy them a beer if we were at the bar
Some people buy blind...but to say all GM fans do this...because you think so...well......whine away..
- Tim
You can't show me where I wasn't civil..
You can't show me where I said the 5.3 had some huge advantage over the 5.4.
Cuz i never said it.
I said it was equal...and that ruffled feathers.
Can you talk trucks? or just trash?
Oil monitoring systems, coolant loss safe engines, distributorless engines, highest industry mileage, flattest torque curves, tow/haul software for the transmission...all of this is legacy technology? And who again has blind loyalty?
I have no MPG numbers sorry
V-10 (dont know the trans or rear end axle combo)
310HP @ 4250 RPM
425 ft/lbs @ 3250 RPM
6.0 Liter V-8 (manual, 3.73 rear end)
300 HP @ 4800 RPM
370 FT/lbs @ 4000 RPM
They (ford) will come up with something to answer the 8.1 and duramax/allison combo? Hmm funny havent heard anything about that. Only thing it seems they will counter with is another SUV (escape). I am not bashing ford F150 but when you said that the 6.0 belongs in a 1/2 ton and not a 3/4 ton you went way to far.
Static ping (haha) yea my truck is all charged up. Dont touch it itll shock the hell out of you. Good theft deterant.
Ryan
22 years....eh?.....sounds like we found the "blind loyalty"....eh?
- Tim
Ryan
I never said the 5.3 had some Huge advantage over the 5.4.
I said the GM outperformed the Ford in the pulling test.
But hey, thanks for taking quotes out of context and doin' some twisting.
You simply refuse to admit that GM has always had a bigger engine than the 6.0
THE 454, 7.4 liter. How unclear is that? what don't you understand? You could always get that in a 3/4 ton GM truck.
You seem to conveniently NOT read that everytime...
Sorry muchacho, the world is not as blue-slanted as you wish it to be.
this is ridiculous.
up there v10 by over 40 hp and over 40 ft lbs of torque.
Ford will also have changed their powerstroke out so that it can be boosted over 20 ft lbs of torque and (gasp) over 70 horsepower.
ford will also have redesigned their entire truck so they can fit a medium duty transmission that is designed for 200,000 miles of heavy pulling and that has been proven in the medium duty market for years.
Ford will do all that in the next month...and becuz they always..ALWAYS ante up.
funny, no one has heard about any of this, and its all coming out so soon, before GM does this.
Please. Who has blind loyalty? I have a one ton Chevrolet, and it is doesn't outperform today's Ford and it might outperform today's Dodge. more reliable, i hope. but tomorrow's GM HD outperforms everything.
Come back to play when you can be objective.
where, my friend, where?
Re post 42: nice job of twisting things around. This whole arguement is about FUTURE trucks and how ford will have to ante up GMs new performance level...and you argue about PAST sales.
Huh?
The entire time you've been comparing v10 to 6.0, and JUST NOW, you admit the 454 exists. 460 was only good for 100K miles in its hayday. 454 still goes strong.
ok, the 460 is better than the 454, and the v10 is even better? well:
the 454 gets:
same mileage as v10
same horsepower as Ford v10
same torque as Ford v10
hmmmm...does that make the 460 better than the v10 in your mind?
You hate it when i present these kind of facts, you lose your cool. why can't you discuss civily?
The more smoke you blow, the more obvious it is.
I am not 'never wrong'. I just can very easily prove your BIASED VIEWS. I put out numbers, like above. Actual models, future and past. Facts.
All you can produce is post 41 and 42. over and over again. reference, Rwell.
I rest my case.
- Tim
was where all this started, and for what....
this is getting back to cut and paste arguements again...
I'm bored with this.
Ryan
hmmm...it seems to be much better than Fords base engine?...DOHH
you would love to see the 6.0 gone in the 3/4..that way you could have less to cry about..
..How many times do we have to hear .."22 years of blind loyalty".??
- Tim
However, since you own a F150, let's compare. Yes, the silverado has problems as '99-'00 which can be considered the same truck during it's first production year had some problems. If we look at the F150, a search of the NHTSA site reveals 260 TSB's in the F150's first year out. I know that the Silverado/Sierra didn't have no where near that amount. If you don't believe me, check it out for yourself.
http://www.nhtsa.com/cars/problems/tsb/Servicemmy5.cfm
So the theory that GM uses its customers to test their vehicles...well so does ford. 260 tsb's is quite a lot even for an intro year, wouldn't you agree? In fact, the 2000 F150 has 40 TSB's. Damn, you'd figure after three years they would be less than that...So it appears that ford is a leader in another truck catagory...TSB's...
I guess it doesn't surprise me that this would come up to being insinuated that it was Ford's fault. How can you bring that up? Really?
It is tragic and I think Ford is doing an admirable job in this issue. They have stated they are even cutting production of Explorer's to allow new tires to go to replacing older ones.
As for Ford stock, if it does go down short term, everyone with any financial sense at all should buy as much as the can. I don't have exact numbers, but; you would not find many other companies models to compete in the market share of Ford products by category.
F Series
Explorer
Expedition
Ranger
Mustang
Taurus
Windstar (O.K. Chrysler is hot too)
Thanks for reading.
Now how about taking a deep breath and relax a little? It's all for fun right? Well as long as everybody agrees that the F250 is the toughest looking truck made. And it's not bad towing either.
just kidding
I didn't like the looks at first, but I do now. almost bought one earlier this year, but couldn't find used one with what I wanted on it. I found a Chevy with the right opts.
This is partially Fords fault. whether they are 10% to blame or 50% blame I don't know....but the FACT is they CO_DESIGNED these tires with Firestone. Then FORD lowered the air pressure specs AFTER product release...which the NTSB has attributed to being a major cause of the failures.
Yes, Ford, although they thought they could cover it up, has recovered, now that they see how bad the problem is. And they are doing the best job possible under the circumstance.
Ford will not be hurt by this.
Firestone will. they will probably be discontinued by Bridgestone.
..tell me about 22 years again...
- Tim
"i gotta get me one of those"
...we can't talk about anything that isn't out
yet...right?"
You've been talking about the Dura Max and the 8.1 AND Allison for months now!!!!!
At least the Duramax/8.1 can be ordered now....
so take your complaint to him....he is the Truck God you know?
- Tim