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New Yaris Problem - A Lemon?



  • dinhcaradinhcara Posts: 4
    Hi all,
    My problem is the smell coming mostly from the air conditioner. Whenever I turn it on it gives off an odor kind of sweet smelling.
    A little history:
    When I first bought my new Yaris I got nauseated and dizzy. The dealer said it might be caused by the new chemicals during manufacturing and would burn off. So I lived with it. Now the only time I notice anything is when the air conditioner comes on.
    I'm wondering if an animal died somewhere in the car and they fumigated the car.
    I'm reluctant to bring it back to the dealer, based on their response the first time.
    Anybody else with similar experience?
  • ttaittai Posts: 114
    I got the same thing. When I use the recirculating setting, I get the moldy smell. I have to switch to the setting that draws air from outside. It occurs after rain and disappears when it's dry. I doubt it's chemical related. It's probably standing water somewhere. Hahaha. Finally, a decent complaint.
  • dinhcaradinhcara Posts: 4
    Thanks. I'll give that a try.
  • benlearnbenlearn Posts: 3
    My girlfriend has a 2000 Camry and I have a 2007 Yaris, and both of our cars have that moldy smell to it, when I put the heat or A/C on. Yes, it does go away after awhile. I find that cracking the windows for a bit, speeds up the process.
  • liam3liam3 Posts: 3
    Nice to hear the real expert's opinion but he has not driven my car or any of the other cars who appear to have a similar complaint and I am NOT talking about the gear changing with the automatic transmision. You surely cannot telll me that when going downhill at a certain grade the car is designed to be constantly dropping and gaining about 200 revs with the resultant jerkiness that is a result of this. I can tell you it is bloody awfull and when your passengers start asking why are you jerking then there must be a problem. I am not criticising the Toyota make of car as I have been drving them for years and they make some magnificent and reliable vehicles but regardless of what podred says out of the hundred's of thousands of Toyota cars sold each year it is almost inevitable that at times someone will buy a car with a fault and I can assure you that my car unfortunately is one of them. Why do you think Toyota has a Customer Relations Centre? Not so people can phone them to give them a pat on the back. All I can say is that I have been driving motor vehicles for some 45 years and have NEVER experienced this phenonemon before. If this is supposed to be technological progress then give me back my old Corona.
  • ttaittai Posts: 114
    I'm sorry to hear you're so adverse to technology. Yes, the car is supposed to either reduce the fuel or drop a gear when going downhill. All you have to do is lift your foot off the gas and the car magically maintains speed going downhill. That's pretty cool. Some people are not used to this so they're punching the gas then lifting then punching again trying to fight the car. The Yaris and the Fit tied for top honors for most reliable car in 2007. There goes that crap about poor Toyota reliability out the window.
  • liam3liam3 Posts: 3
    Looks like we have another expert telling me my Yaris is okay. Come and drive the thing and then lets see if your comments make sense. I am not adverse to technology but what you are saying about MY car is not correct. It does NOT magically maintain speed if I lift my foot of the gas when going downhill, it just slows down which is what it is supposed to do. I do not fight the car playing with the gas pedal. I just keep my foot perfectly still on the gas pedal and the car engine revs just keep droping by 200 revs then picking up 200revs and the cycle just continues until either the engine comes under load or I stick my foot on the brake pedal. I have never questioned the reliability of the car as it has not let me down. It just does not drive like it should or the Yaris I took for a 2 hours test drive (before I bought mine) which was just great.
  • maulikgpmaulikgp Posts: 1
    I saw Yaris hatchback in Canada with 4 doors. Why don't they introduce it in US?? It'll make immense sense to do so!!!

    (check the canadian Toyota web)

    Best Regards
  • carmenbcarmenb Posts: 1
    Just stumbled upon this post - searching for some consistent info re: towing capacity and capabilities of the Yaris.

    I'm in Canada and have been driving my '07 5-door (yes, handy indeed - I have a small child) mostly happy with its performance. I've found it's a particularly economical and practical city car (I spend around $50 CAN/month on fuel for weekday inner-city commuting and weekend hwy getaways) but I find it revs high above 90 km/hr and chugs rather than sips fuel on hwy trips. Overall, though, especially with the cost of fuel now, I'm quite happy with my car and my local Toyota dealer.

    I'm itching to tow, though. I understand the torque restricts anything too heavy but if euroeans are towing 2000 lbs breaked and in Canada we can tow up to 700 lbs, I'm miffed with the difference.

    I'd love to hear from anyone who has towed a teardrop camper, lightweight pop-up or other...
  • dumcriefdumcrief Posts: 4
    Bought a 2007 Yaris 5 door hatchback, like it except found I could not rest my foot on the gas pedal without it wanting to move, so had to tilt my ankle back to keep my foot off which was uncomfortable. Toyoto said nothing they can do so I cut off about 2 inches of pedal which takes off enough leverage that I can now rest my foot comfortable. We like the car and bought a second one and did the same thing. The only other thing I notice is that when you put it in reverse you get a vibration from under the dash that sounds like something is loose. Other than that, all is well.
  • lhansonlhanson Posts: 268
    Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the car supposed to move when you touch the gas pedal? I have never heard of anyone with this problem before. Makes me wonder what the Toyota people thought when you contacted them. I guess you plan on never reselling the cars. The next person might not like getting only part of a gas pedal.
  • dakedake Posts: 131
    It's funny you mention this, b/c my only real complaint about the Yaris is the gas pedal and the brake pedal are too close together. And I think you're right about the angle of the gas pedal being slightly "off".

    Toyota must have gotten complaints about this because when I filled out our new owner survey they specifically asked if this was a problem. It's not just a small car thing either, b/c my Echo's pedals are in a seemingly normal position in relation to one another and compared to any other vehicles of differing sizes I've driven lately. But I get into the Yaris and I have to make a conscious effort to adjust my foot. Weird.
  • dumcriefdumcrief Posts: 4
    Hi Ihanson, so pleased that you are concerned about the down the road problems I might have selling our two cars. Most of us post here for educational purposes, not snippy remarks. Now, why don't you go down to your room in your mothers basement and come out a nice person,
    Cheers, dumcrief
  • podredpodred Posts: 127
    I have a few odd things happening with my 2008 Yaris Hatchback Automatic. When I turn the key the starter motor turns and th engine starts, if I release the parking brake the car moves, if I turn the steering wheel while driving the car goes a different direction and when stopping if I put my foot on the brakes it comes to a stop. I'm worried that I have a lemon?
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,910
    Yes, the car moving after you release the parking brake, if the transmission is in Park, could definitely be a problem. You should have that checked by the dealer immediately.
  • jetfirekjetfirek Posts: 16
    Toyota Paint is not good like Ford Paint and never will be...However since I love my Lexus and will love my Yaris Sport Hatchback...this is what I do.

    I got a permanent maker and filled in the places where the chips are then I wax over it with a dab of NU FINISH....the chips disappear and I am happy...but I wax my car every three months with NU FINISH and they look brand new...

    Easy to put on easy to take off...I think its Teflon.....Look around the parking lots whenyou go somewhere does your car need a wax job? all of them did but mine...and if you wax the front end on a trip with NU Finish..the bugs won't stick...
  • phllbitphllbit Posts: 8
    Yes I have the same problem going downhill - apparently it is supposed to provide engine braking but I have found some error codes which I think are connected with the downhill revs being too high and going on for too long. iti s going back to the dealer next week and I am either going to have a replacement yaris or a refund.

    I would prefer now to own a Mazda 3 which is much more poerful and comfy than the yaris.

    If you could get someone to check your diagnostic codes that would help.
  • we are having very bad problems with our 08 sedan,
    transmission wont shift into second at time so bad I have pull over and stop then step back on gas to kind of reset it to shift. at times when it don't shift it's kind of like holding your breath waiting for it to but need to gasp before it finely does.
    we have high pitch ringing sounds coming from it also 3 different levels, one level when ideling, a different when taking off and stoping and yet a third while drivivg. it drives me mad especially since that sound level I hear excruciatingly well.
    we started having the tranny problems approx 3 weeks after getting it. the third week I finely pulled over due to not shifting at all and checked the fluid. the stick was dry.
    we had to add some to get home it did ok for a couple of weeks then acted up again so I checked again, low again but not dry.
    we've also been experiencing a aweful smell coming from the heating air system smelling like the old cars when they experienced a heater core dump. and losing power up to 2 level fan in air system. and the ignition key when turned on continues to rotate the starter after letting goeven after the car has started and at times car has trouble starting just rotates.
    we took it into our dealership they said nothing was wrong. I was floored. I told them I knew that they were wrong because I had checked the tranny fluid before bringing it in.
    they flipped out and responded why didn't you tell us when you braught it in?
    I said it is your job to find it and since that should be the first thing you check when a complaint is made on tranny problems you should have found it.
    so this fool mechanic opens the hood and proceeds to pull out the dip stick.
    I stated the car should be running and warmed up to get the correct reading.
    this pissed him off. He got defensive and proceeded to ask me what temp was the car when I checked. I told him the engine had been running and at temp when I checked. then he got nasty and stated I want to know exactly what temp!
    I dont carry a thermometer but the stick was hot when I pulled it.
    he slammed the hood and took it back for an additional hour.on top of the three they already had it. came back and said there was nothing wrong with the car.
    The tranny behaved for another 3 weeks.
    I took it in again, and while in there I called my attorney with all that was wrong he said it qualifies as a lemon and to keep taking it back going to different dealers til it is found. Abgain this dealer said nothing wrong.
    so we did go to different one. They came back saying the boot on the exhaust was loose needing replacing, the ignition did the continuous rotating on them and the previous day another owner of the same make and model, yr had complained of same tranny problem and they would have to open a case against it.
    we've had the boot replaced and finely the ignition but the problems still exist infact the air system now smells like gasoline coming through.
    we have contacted the lemon law attory generals office. despecially now that the new mechanics are saying they didn't find these things wrong and wouldn't give me the paper work the day of first repairs and papers recieved at time of ignition repair states they never found the problems I stated was wrong.
    But fortunately I had 2 witnesses to them saying they found all problems I stated was wrong.
    Sugguestion keep taking in before warrenty up, keep all paperwork and don't let them say I'll mail it to you cause they wont and they alter in their computer to say different. take a witness other than spouse so you have strong evidence against them when you go to lemon law help. And by all means don't delay if you have these problem or any and it doesn't get fixed go to file as a lemon you'll be suprised that it isn't as hard as the dealers want you to think.
  • dinhcaradinhcara Posts: 4
    You should have gotten a standard transmission.
  • omgoshomgosh Posts: 2
    Hey everyone. I have a 2009 Yaris Liftback. I bought it in Oct of 08. I live in California. I recently turned on the A/C because it is getting hotter than the devil out here! :-)
    Anyway, the A/C blows cold air but it makes a fluttering sound like when you were a kid and you'd stick a sheet of paper in the fan, remember that? Anyway, I called the service dept of the Toyota where I purchased my car and they said it would cost me 120 bucks for them to look at it. But I haven't even had it a year! So I called corporate and they said they'd work with their rep from that dealer to get it checked out for free. I shouldn't be having these problems. Any idea what it is or if it is a trend?
    Thanks for your help!
  • dakedake Posts: 131
    It could be something like a leaf that got sucked into the vent system or it could just be a random scrap of paper.

    Your car is less than a year old though and should be covered under warranty. That 120 is a load of crap from the dealer. At absolute worst, it might cost you 50 dollars for the visit if they don't find anything wrong (that's how the basic extended warranty used to work anyway).

    Check your paperwork as you should be good for about three years total with the first year bumper to bumper (if you didn't get the extended).
  • omgoshomgosh Posts: 2
    Thank you very much! I called the Corporate office after speaking with the service Rep that day and they called the service center and told them to see me without charge. So today I went in and it was just a piece of paper that was stuck in the fan. Just like it sounded! Anyway, this car doesn't come with a cabin air filter so things seem to get stuck in it.... They put an air filter in for me. The filter cost about 30 bucks... So all is well. Thank you for your answer.
    I never heard of a car not be issued with a cabin air filter.... They said that paper from the glovebox seems to find it's way into everyone's fan unless they get a filter. Weird! But not a big expense.
  • phllbitphllbit Posts: 8
    get the cabin air filter changed should be done every 30k or so
  • phllbitphllbit Posts: 8
    So mine just got considerably worse - broke down first time I used it more than two hours - the electronic throttle sensor was blown - The reason it broke down - the cruise control they fitted was an after market part not made by Toyota and our vehicle does not have the wiring for it. This caused a surge which blew the electronic throttle sensor causing us to lose drive. The car would creep along but would not accelerate.

    To cut a long story short, the dealer we had the car towed to told us we were sold a lemon i.e. the car has had the front bumper and panels changed indicating that it had been in an accident and that the parts used were not even Toyota parts. They showed us in cloudy light and you could see that the colour was off. There was also signs of damage to the fly wheel at the bottom of the engine. Worse still, they told us that the car was another daily rental which we did not know.

    Now we are in dispute with the dealer and we are all quite upset.

    Anyway, don't buy a Yaris, be careful who you buy from and get it checked out before you buy. If you buy Toyota again, go for a Matrix but I would recommend the Mazda 5 which is a crossover vehicle or the Mazda 3 which is a hatchback. I am never going to buy Toyota again.
  • dakedake Posts: 131
    So wait what? You bought a salvaged car from a sleazy dealer and that means to not buy a Yaris?

    Did you get a Carfax report? B/c if you did and it showed a clear title then Carfax will buy the car back from you if they were wrong. If you bought a used car w/out a title search then you have no one to blame but yourself.

    NEVER EVER EVER trust car dealers. I worked security at the National Auto Dealers Exchange in Jersey for years and they rob each other blind, what do you think they do to the average consumer?
  • girlcarbuildergirlcarbuilder Baton Rouge, LAPosts: 218
    Hello folks. Searching out the dirt on the Yaris. Considering it for purchase. Have worked on many a car during the years. Without looking at the specific design of the car, I suspect you may have a slightly out of adjustment throttle position sensor switch. These are very touchy to adjust and if they are out of adjustment, things such as surging can occur even while stopped at a red light.

    One reason why I do not like more computer controlled stuff on a car. Very few techs really know how to work on the stuff or have enough electronics skills to troubleshoot it themselves.
  • smcl8002smcl8002 Posts: 2
    Hi my boyfriend bought a Toyota Yaris 2007, Automatic Sedan 4 doors. After a year of buying it it started to burn the fuse and it already has burn a few of them three times, last Saturday we were on our vacations driving and the cars mileage just stopped working, also the radio, air conditioner and the lights, I started felling it really heavy so my boyfriend told me to pull over to see what was happening, I did and after that he turn it off and on, it turn on ok but nothing else worked and the selector level stuck and it couldn't be moved. :cry: We took him to the Toyota services and pieces and they said the battery was damage and the power steering cables were burn out. The warranty didn't cover cause the car already had 45,000 miles. And the warranty was only until 36,000 miles. They cant help and my boyfriend pays more than 350 bucks for that car monthly it only has 2 years of use and has given problems in more than 2 occasions in the same place. What can we do? We tried to get another car and nothing, I know it will be doing the same thing over and over again. We asked them why it happened what reasons they have for this and they cant give an answer, can someone tell me what to do????? :confuse: Or we will have to stay stuck with the car that is not functioning right???? By the way my boyfriends gives it all the maintenance it needs every time he has without missing one. Thanks for all the help you can give to us.
  • there are lemon laws you should seriously check into.
    even if you bought the car second hand you may be able to get a refund or replacement car.
    and if you had been taking it in before warrenty was out for problems this works even more in your favor.
    not sure what state you are in but well worth checking into lemon laws.
    the dealerships make it sound more difficult than what it is cause they don't want you to go through lemon law.
    save all paper work when took in for repair or diagosing.
    In some states the dealership are required to give you proof of your bringing the car in every time.
    We are going through the lemon law arbitrarion.
    I'll tell you this much manufactures WILL bully, intimadate and every sly trick in book to scare you off read and follow all info in lemon law manual.
    you should be able to find the resolution.
    I hope it goes well.
  • smcl8002smcl8002 Posts: 2
    Thanks, we took the car to repair and the diagnosis found was that the car had a cable that was caught (pinch) in the power stiring sistem and it burn, made the electric sistem collapse it shut off all the car and dammage the battery also. They couldnt explain how this hapenend and why the cable was caught (pinch) if no one had ever touched that area. He had to pay for the reparation, the new battery, the diagnosis and also the crane twice.

    We live in Puerto Rico, so I think the laws apply almost the same as in the United States.
  • Save all receipts, log any times you have problems and make sure to get the explanation invoice from mechanic and dealers.
    always take a witness not related with you into repair shops or dealers. and if talking on phone with them use speaker with a witness present.
    Hope all goes well.
    our lemon hearing is in aug. finely going to get rid of this bad nightmare headache
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