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Honda Pilot Tires and Wheels
2007pilotexl
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The spare tire on the 2007 pilot is a different width than the other tires. Does anyone know if a full size tire will fit in spare tire storage location under the car?
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Odie
Odie's Carspace
i brought my pilot to local ny dealer. they free spun the wheels and did not see anything wrong. they were telling me that the blemish on this tire is normal, as it "sometimes" come from the way they tie cars for delivery. he assured me that there is nothing wrong and it is safe to use/ride on it. he cannot replace the tire though, unless i pay for it. isn't that unfair? i don't like my cars having bulge in it, as i feel that its lifespan is lessened or may not last longer than it should be. should i go directly to my dealer and get it replaced? i'd like to know my rights as a new buyer. i just put 500mi on it and i want to know if i can get (at least) Goodyear to replace it, if not Honda...
This was a Goodyear store. Not just a store that also sold Goodyear tires.
Kip
the story about how the vehicle is placed on the transport is just a story.
speak with the service manager. call honda corporate if you don't get satisfaction. you may take it to a goodyear store. however, it's honda that should be taking care of you.
meanwhile, what happened to your vibration?
I had a vehicle with a bulging tire. I asked the dealer to replace the tire and after that was not going to happen, I replaced it as fast as I could by going to a local tire dealer the same day. My family was much more important than waiting for a dealer to do something.
As to options, as I am not a lawyer.
You might have a small claims court filing available.
Maybe writing Honda HQ a leter of complaint.
Does your state have a "lemon law"?
Good luck to you and I hope things work out for you.
jensad
I moved up from a 1999 Camry to a 2003 Honda Pilot EX this past weekend. The seller surprisinly had new tires on the rear but almost worn out tires on front. I need to get a new front pair right away. The rear are Bridgestone Dueler H/T 684 235/70R16.
I was thinking of getting the Goodyear Fortera TripleTread but noticed that Costco policy on tires states --
If installing less than a complete set, we will install only on the rear. And it the vehicle is a 4wd or AWD then all tires need to be the same.
Questions:
1. Does anyone advise getting a different pair for the front set?
2. Or should I stick to Bridgestone Dueler 684?
3. How are these Bridgestone tires anyway?
Thanks a lot!!
Gaurav
thanks for your responses.
the honda salesman called me up and ask me to bring the car to the dealership tomorrow to get the tire re-evaluated. i haven't responded to their customer survey yet, so i hope they'll fix it, otherwise they'll get bad feedback.
btw, i'm aware of mechanical issues in lemon law, but never tires... i maybe wrong or haven't read enough about NJ lemon state laws.
i'll keep you posted whatever happens tomorrow.
That is encouraging!
Kip
Also had a set on a Montero. They didn't wear all that well.
I find them kind of rough over road cracks, gravel and such. They are also noisy.
Will replace them with Michelins or Yokahamas. The Yokahamas are built the same way as Michelins and cost a little less.
Kip
another good point is their Lifetime Road Hazard Warranty, not only does it cover just about everything, every 6000 miles you get a free Re-Balance, Re-Presseure and Rotation.
Odie
Odie's Carspace
I purchased the tires through tirerack and had them delivered to an installer with the Hunter 9700 balance machine, so that they could be road-force balanced, which seems to be an important issue for the Pilots. Take care. Ralph
That really "SUCKS"! Since it is nothing to worry about, it seems the Honda dealer would be more than happy to swap tires with you from one on the lot. If tires were normal to have bubbles, more would have them. :mad:
My next step would be to sit down with the "OWNER" of the dealership and first ask him if he would want that tire on his wife or kids car. Second, tell him that if your problem is not fixed, your service work and future car purchases will be at another dealer. Third, you will tell as many people as possible about the problem and how you are being treated at his dealership. Forth, you will get some magnetic "LEMON" sign for your doors. His dealership name is already on the car. Probably a tag on the front and a decal on the back. Remind him that customers are easier to loose than to gain.
His cost on that tire is minimal compared to the profit he has already made and hopes to make in the future on service work and sales. If none of this affects him, he may not be in business much longer anyway. Find a new dealer and purchase some more tires. Michelin or Yokahamas come to mind.
Kip
Then it is not a "bubble" at all. A bubble is something that actually looks like your Great Aunt's goiter on her neck, not a slight inward wave or crease on the sidewall. What you have is a completely normal tire. There is an even money chance that any new tire you had mounted would be the same. I purchased a set of Michelin's for my other car and one of the tires had this, set of BFGs for my pick up same thing. It is normal. It is not a safety issue. Your wife and kids will be fine. And yes, I would have no issue at all with my wife driving on tires with this blemish.
I've not noticed it with Michelins or Yokahamas. Manager at "National Tire and Battery" said those 2 brands are built differently from the others. Clamshell or something!
Michelins I've owned have been Light Truck tires and may have stronger sidewalls. Yokahamas were on a Maxima. Didn't NOTICE any indentions, but they could have been there. Those Yokahamas were replacements and sure ran quiet and soft, compared to OEM Toyos.
Kip
Kip
If you are talking about the indentions in the sidewall that run from the rim out toward the tread, it is fairly common to see. Especially noticeable when clean and shiny in bright sun.
I've not noticed it with Michelins or Yokahamas. Manager at "National Tire and Battery" said those 2 brands are built differently from the others. Clamshell or something!
Michelins I've owned have been Light Truck tires and may have stronger sidewalls. Yokahamas were on a Maxima. Didn't NOTICE any indentions, but they could have been there. Those Yokahamas were replacements and sure ran quiet and soft, compared to OEM Toyos.
Kip
Our '03 has 23K on the clock and recent tire check said about 60% of tread remaining on the Good Year Integras.
We have all services done at the Honda Dealer.
Kip
http://www.hondapilot.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16017&highlight=camb- er+negative
Sounds like the same issue.
Chris
However there is something you can check.
If it is the center of the tread, it could be due to excessive air pressure!
An over inflated tire can/will ride more on the center treads. Therefore those treads are taking the entire load instead of it being spread across the entire tread.
Check that air pressure is no higher than 2-3# more than the recommended pressure on the door frame. Get a good gauge.
Also, tires need to be rotated more often than 15K miles.
Kip
Kip
By going slightly larger, you may have actually corrected your speedometer/odometer!
http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/2007-02-19-odometer-usat_x.htm
Kip
Compared to the cost of the vehicle and maintenance, tire replacement cost is not a huge issue. That is IF the tires perform well and return reasonable mileage.
For us, Michelin and Yokahamas have worked well with a good balance of performance and longevity.
Continentals might be worth looking into next time.
The Integras are still on our 03 Pilot. No problems what-so-ever with vibrations at any speed. The Honda dealer rotates and balances at the proper intervals. I strive to keep the pressure at or no more than +2# the posted door recommendation. They will hydroplane!
I have heard there is something different about how the Honda Dealers balance tires. "Road Load" or something like that.
The Bridgestone Duelers on our 03 CR-V are nearly worn out at less than 25K miles. They are rough, noisy, and don't wear well! First few miles every morning are particularly rough and feel like one or more is out of balance. After a few miles (depending on road temperature) the out of balance feeling goes away and only the noisy and rough riding remain. Don't know how they perform under panic wet or dry situations.
Kip
I had a chance to test these tires in the wet and the snow and they perform very well. I tested the anti-lock and VSA. If you test the braking every time you go into the snow, you will get a great respect for the amount of stopping distance you actually need in those conditions. I took the old highway up to the ski resort to get around the stop-and-go traffic on the main freeway last week. The road became a single tracked, one-way trail for the last five miles (good thing no one was coming down). The snow was about a foot deep and I scraped bottom five or six times when the tracks got deeper.
The Pilot did surprisingly well, almost as good as our old S-10 Blazer. That thing had trail-rated tires and full skid plates so I wasn't ever afraid to push it. The Pilot is still new and I ALMOST felt like I was abusing it.....but hey, that is why I bought it.
We'll give you a pass but any commercial offerings are strictly out of bounds.
tidester, host
SUVs and Smart Shopper
About the tires I noticed that they don't inspire a lot of confidence is high speed driving. I felt that my previous two SUVs, one a 1999 Mercedes ML320 and a 2002 Toyota Landcruiser handled much better at higher speeds when it came to lane changes and breaking at high speeds. Besides the suspension, I think the much wider ties on both vehicles definitely helped. The ML had 255s and the Landcruiser 275s.
The OEM tires are hopeless for anything more than mall cruising. I am planning to replace mine with the Michelin LTX M&S tiers in 245/70/16 size soon. I had these tires on both my earlier suv's and was very happy with the handling all year round including during snow storms.
Thanks
I assume you had a 16" wheel to start.
I'm looking at a Dueler A/T Revo or the Pirelli Scorpian. I may even go to a 245 or 255. Both are SUV tires and weight 10 to 12 lbs more per tire.
I don't know if there is some way to "tweak" the computer for tire size changes!
An overall larger diameter tire will change the final drive gear ratio somewhat. The car will not "Pull" quite as strong and will turn less RPM at any given speed.
You will be going faster and travel farther than the speedo/odo are registering, so your mpg checks will calculate low.
Kip
Our Pilot calls for 32# while our lighter CR-V calls for 26#. The idea is to have the proper pressure to allow the entire tread (width) to be in contact with the road, and the sidewalls to still be flexible enough without "folding" on curves.
Excessive pressure will result in the tire "ballooning", putting more vehicle weight on the middle of the tread. This will wear the center tread faster than the edges. Also, because there is less of the tire touching the road, handling will be affected. High pressure may increase MPG a bit due to less rolling resistance, but at the cost of handling, safety and uneven tire wear.
Insufficient pressure will allow the center of the tread to recess somewhat, and more weight to rest on the outer tread, wearing it more than the center. Result may be poorer MPG due to the excessive rolling resistance, sloppy handling due to the side walls being too flexible on curves and such. And, of course, uneven tire wear.
All that to say the tire is capable of safely carrying 40# of pressure, but Honda recommends 32 under normal conditions. If you should load her down with 8 people and hook a 3000# trailer behind, the tires would sag a bit and the need for more air pressure in the rear is real.
The only way to be absolutely sure of the correct pressure for your car is the "Chalk" method, using a tire gauge dedicated to that car. Interesting that our "Pilot" gauge shows 33# cold pressure to be proper for the Pilot. That gauge is the only one used for that car. The CR-V gauge shows 28# to be proper for the CR-V.
Gauges can vary a few pounds. With a given tire pressure, one gauge might show say 33# and another gauge may show a couple of pounds more or less.
When the Pilot has proper pressure (33#) according to it's gauge and I check the Pilot tires with the "CR-V" gauge, that CR-V gauge will show 35#.
I don't know which of those gauges is the most accurate. And it doesn't matter. "Chalk" shows proper inflation to be as described above. As long as I use the gauge dedicated to that car, I'm good to go. In reality either gauge will put either car close enough.
Kip
What is your chalk method?? :confuse:
Joe
Most will agree that the entire width of the tread should be on the road.
With that in mind, over inflate the tires a few #. Don't over do it! Drive around for a few miles until you figure the tires to be at operating temperature.
This should be done with the "Load" normally carried in the car.
I generally just check the two on the driver side as I am usually the only occupant.
Pull over at the beginning of a straight flat stretch of good smooth road and put a chalk mark across the tread in 2-3 places. Ease back onto the road and drive a mile or so. Check the chalk marks. You may find that the center is worn off while the edges still still have chalk showing. If so, let a little out ( say a pound) and continue this madness until the chalk wears evenly across the tires.
Go back home and let the car sit where ever it would be when you check your tire pressure. Allow a few hours for tires to cool. Now check the pressure.
At that point that tire is inflated correctly for "COLD" pressure. The gauge reads that
pressure. Next time pressure is checked, check em cold and use the numbers you developed with THAT GAUGE !
NOTE: You could probably run a couple of pounds lower and still wear the chalk evenly. However since we are concerned with mileage and safety, we might wish to run as much air as possible to keep down rolling resistance, while keeping the tire at proper configuration on the road.
Disclaimer: I got this off a web site a while back. Seems to work good for me and makes sense. Might not work for others.
Kip
Kip