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Acura TL - Buy Now or Wait for 4th Generation?

new2carsnew2cars Posts: 71
edited March 2014 in Acura
Hi Acura TLers,

How long has the "new" TL body style been out for? I am in the market of buying a new car since I've had my Acura Integra for 11 years now. I had a great experience with my Integra which is why I'm naturally inclined to buy another Acura this year. I love the TL but I'm fearful that Acura will be changing the body style soon. Does anyone know if this is the case?

Thank you in advance for your help!


  • ggesqggesq Posts: 701
    The 3GTL (third generation) was introduced in 03 as an 04 model. The 2007 is a mid-model change. The 4GTL will show up in 08 as an 09 model. The 4GTL is rumored to have SH-AWD and 300+ hp.
  • Hmmm...that makes sense. I knew it was coming up soon. Do you if the changes are drastic? This sounds silly but I don't want to spend $38K on a 2007 TL only to have the body style change on me next year. This is a big financial decision for me. I'm excited but a little scared.
  • ggesqggesq Posts: 701
    IMHO, adding SH-AWD and 300+hp is drastic. Acura has released several concept designs and if that is an indication of where Acura is heading then the exterior will drastically change too. However, no official pics of the 4G TL have been released.

    If you can wait- then wait ;) OR wait until the 4GTL comes out and Acura will be practically giving away the current model with incentives and financing offers.
  • 300+ hp! That's a lot of horses. I can barely 190 hp! :) That's good to know. I am itching to buy a 2007 car and I've narrowed it down to the BMW 328i (w/o nav) and the Acura TL (w/nav). Any opinions?
  • habitat1habitat1 Posts: 4,282
    Congratulations on squeezing 11 years out of your Integra. We still own a 1995 Maxima w/ 155k miles that resides at our second home. It's a good feeling to know that you've gotten a good return on your investment rather than buying the latest and greatest every 2-3 years and suffering big depreciation hits.

    If you like the current TL, I would not be too hesitant to go for it, regardless of whatever the 4th generation has in store for 2008/9 or beyond. From what an Acura rep tells me, the next TL is still 2+ years off. Rumors of a new MDX for 2005 and 2006 circulated in 2003 and 2004, but it wasn't until the 2007 model that it finally came out.

    As for the 328i vs. TL, there are a lot of factors to consider. I am partial to the driving dynamics of BMW, but Honda/Acura has always served me well from a no-fuss maintenance and relaibility standpoint. If you intend to keep your next car 10+ years, or even 7-8+, the BMW will become more expensive to maintain after the 4 year included service runs out. But those are just a couple of a myriad of factors to consider.

    Good luck.
  • Based on the info and comments from all the posters in this stream, one thing the original poster may want to consider is this, get an '06, enjoy it for 3-4 years and by then the "next generation" TL will have been out for 2 years with all the kinks worked out.

    Unless you are focusing on the TL-S, I don't think there's a big diff between the '06 and the '07 regular TL, and I am sure there are deals to be had on remaining '06s.
  • starman98starman98 Posts: 119
    The next gen TL will not be out till fall 2008. So its about a little less than 2 years off. Nobody knows what it will have or look like this early.

    2008's will be the same as 2007's.
  • kennyg8kennyg8 Posts: 225
    Depending on where you live, there are few (if any) 06 TLs left near Gotham. You may get a good deal if you find an 06, but the color/combo probably won't be popular, or the car is an early production that has been sitting in the dealer's lot for a while. The 07 TL (except the TL-S) is not different from the 06 mechanically speaking, just a few added features that some may find useful or necessary. Car manufacturers frequently change body styles of their cars (sometimes major) to attract customers. So, waiting around will not do you much good. If you like the style, buy the car and drive it for at least 7-8 years.
  • ggesqggesq Posts: 701
    One mechanical feature that I think is different IMHO is the new automatic transmission in the 07 TL's.
  • scottm123scottm123 Posts: 1,501
    What's new about the 07 Auto?

    I know they claim it holds gears longer for spirited driving but that's a simple computer update... and to be honest, I didn't notice any difference from the 06.

    Anything else about the 07 Auto that's new?
  • starman98starman98 Posts: 119
    Its a different transmission but I doubt anyone will notice a difference no faster or more HP or anything like that. maybe its easier to work on for mechancics who knows.
  • frisconickfrisconick Posts: 1,275
    Good points kenny. Plus you may not even like the look of the next gen TL. I think the S type has 286 ponies, that's plenty hp. :P
  • I was facing the same dilemna, but decided to go ahead and but the type s in dec. I haven't been disapointed with the decision yet. I love driving it and everywhere I go people ask about the car. If I like the TL I'll trade in for it a year after it's been out. My Acura dealers pretty good at limiting depreciation losses for us loyal far anyway!!
  • scottm123scottm123 Posts: 1,501
    If I had to choose between a TL now, or waiting until late 08 for an 09, I'd buy now.

    The odds of there being some first year bugs are high, considering the amount of changes and new technologies involved.

    There are also too many unknown variables to make an educated decision right now.
    We don't even know what the price tag on the next model will be.
    It could be $10,000 more and that could take the car out of alot of people's budget.

    Buy now, and then trade in for a 2010, once the first year bugs are worked out by the guinea pigs who just have to have the first year model. :P
  • frisconickfrisconick Posts: 1,275
    Good points Scott, I know the 2004's problems that my 2005 TL does not. :)
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    Some posts have been moved to a new discussion. Here's the link: calidd, "Acura TL vs Lincoln MKZ" #2, 4 Mar 2007 11:44 am.
  • jvettejvette Posts: 70
    Honda motor company is very slow in bringing new models to market. It is only expected that there will be a 09 redo that will go on sale in late 08. It could very well be a 10 model instead. Honda is very tight mouthed about their new cars. So buy now and enjoy.
  • ggesqggesq Posts: 701
    Honda goes on a 5 year cycle for its models. The 3G TL was introduced in late 03 as an 04 model. The 4G TL WILL show up in late 08 as an 09 model.
  • habitat1habitat1 Posts: 4,282
    "Honda goes on a 5 year cycle for its models."

    Since when? I have no inside information on when the next TL will be introduced, but the MDX ran 6 model years (01-06) and the S2000 is on its 8th. There is NO certainty about when the next TL will come out - lots of people in the MDX forum stated with absolute certainty in 2004/5 that the 2006 would be a redesign. WRONG.

    If I had to guess, a 2009 MY redesign would be a relatively minor one, but if they wait until 2010 (as I expect, given the 2007 introduction of the TL-S), we could see a RWD platform and/or other more major changes. But that's just my guess.
  • scottm123scottm123 Posts: 1,501
    According to my Acura Salesman, 09 is the year.
    He went to the most recent Acura convention and he said this has been stated.
    Confirmed, who knows for sure.

    Either way, I'm not gonna be a first year guinea pig for this big of a change.
    If the car impresses me that much, I'll be in line for the 2010.

    Man, just saying 2010 makes me feel old!
    Starting to feel like a character from "Logan's Run"
    ... time to renew :P
  • ggesqggesq Posts: 701

    Have you made a decision?
  • scottm123scottm123 Posts: 1,501
    Pulling the trigger in 2-3 weeks.
    Until then, nothing is definite, but if I was dropping cash on something this morning, it would be the 07 G35x w/ Prem/Nav/Tech/Wood packages.
    Slate Blue on Black.

    I've had too many little complaints with my 06 MDX.
    The dealer is friendly, but 6 visits for the same problem is a little much. Nav losing power, Subwoofer and dash rattles, driver's seat movement, whistling windshield... $45,000 for what?!?!:sick:
    Other than little quirks, it's very nice.
    Owning a Honda for 7 years and 180,000 miles, I have to say they are amazing vehicles... they just dont stop.
    I know the TL is rock solid in reliability.
    With that being said, I've had TL loaners 5 times now. I have to say, I got bored with them.
    I hope TL owners dont take offense by that, it's just my opinion.

    I drove the G35 and was stunned... I loved it.
    The TL, unfortunately, didn't give me that same feeling.

    I hope Nissan/Infiniti reliability treats me as well as Honda/Acura has.

    Countdown continues.
  • ggesqggesq Posts: 701
    IMHO, both cars offer tremendous amount of value for the price. You really can't go wrong with either. Have fun w/ the G and see you when the 4G TL comes out ;)
  • cyrus2cyrus2 Posts: 3
    ggesq, What is a 4 generation TL? I purchased a 1st Gen. G35 in 03 and must say it is the best car I've ever owned. Now have 50000 miles and have not had any issues at all. In the last two months I've been looking into a new G or TL. I'm really leaning TL(different car,price 31500) Hope I'm making the right move...
  • ggesqggesq Posts: 701
    It's just a fancy way of saying the next TL. ;)
    It should be out sometime in late 08 but Honda/Acura is keeping the lid on it tight.
    The current TL (3G) body style started in 2004 and was introduced in late 03. If you can wait, you can pick up a 3G TL with a smoking deal when the new one arrives.
  • parvizparviz Posts: 484
    ".....or the car is an early production that has been sitting in the dealer's lot for a while. .."

    Sorry if my question relates to an older post. I was just doig some reading on the TL. What do you mean by an early production? Why would it be sitting in the lot for long? Longer than any other ones, anythinfg wrong with them or else? Thanks.
  • rv65rv65 Posts: 1,076
    I have nothing really to say about the next gen TL. Going to be interested. The people are being sworn to secrecy. Only info I have is a 304 hp v6 and a 6 speed auto transmission. SH-AWD and a Hard drive is likely.

    Now for the TSX. Rumor has it that the RDX engine won't make it. Probably a small v6. No info on the Type-S. Should have a european/bmw look.

    RL is going to be the biggest and most extensive MMC for acura/honda. 3.7L v6 and 6AT is likely. Expect a HDD to store music, enhanced SH-AWD, some more room and more.

    Acura is looking into making Type-S into an AMG, M, or S brand etc. This means more than just the usual improvements. The people in Japan are very interested.

    Acura wants to be better than the germans. They are now being run by Acura and not Honda. They are now do their own thing. New R&D and design labs should help them. A v8 and v10 are going to come. They are doing everything they can to make Acura destroy the europeans, japanese and even Caddy :D!

    Hope this helps.
  • eroc69eroc69 Posts: 56
    I was at an Aucra dealer yesterday in Pittsburgh and they said to me and others I overheard that in April or so the new TSX is out and in the fall the new TL is out.
  • rajnirajni Posts: 4
    Hello Friends,

    I'm planning on getting a new Acura TL, but I recently heard that Acura is introducing a re-design in Fall 2008 or so.. Therefore, is it advisable to wait or get the current model in the market.. Acura 2008, is the most matured and complete model of the 3rd generation, probably with very few bugs in it, whereas the Acura TL 2009 might have high number of new bugs due to new technologies and features built into it.. but again, it will be a new design.. in my opinion, it will be best to get the 2010 or 2011 model, but I can't wait that long and have to decide between 2008 or 2009.. any suggestions/comments will be greatly appreciated!

    Thank you,
    Rajni Kamoze
  • maxmanmaxman Posts: 11
    Yes there will be a new TL for 2009. The TL development program is on a five-year cycle. Basic rule of thumb when a new Accord debuts a new TL will be introduced the following year. To further hammer this point in everything in the Acura line up is fresh RL 05, MDX 07, RDX 07, and TSX 04. The TL was also new on 04 it has been traditionally the rice in Acura’s meal so it will get priority over the TSX to help rejuvenate sagging sales. As for purchasing now this is the best time to get on board. Normally I would not have anything thing to do with Honda/Acura they are good cars but I am extremely brand loyal which is why I have owned 3 Nissan Maximas SE 5 & 6MTs and 2 Nissan Altima SE-R 6mts. However, I have turned the corner and only because I got the deal of a lifetime from a local dealer. After just wanting to take a peek at a 2007 TL Type- S 6mt in November of 07 I was sold and ordered a 2008 to keep deprecation in line as having a year old car with no equity is a bad thing. This car reminded me so much of my old 2002 Nissan Maxima SE 6mt, a luxurious car at a fair price that can haul [non-permissible content removed] and make the owner of a V8 powered Mustang GT blush. The only other car that could come close for the price was the 2007 G35S 6mt and being redone for 2007 dealers were not even negotiating at least in my area, I am sure it would have been a different story in a place like LA or NYC. So I ordered the Acura on the spot. The deal was amazing the dealer sold it to me for $100 above invoice incl the dealer fee plus he gave me the whole manufactures dealer incentive on the car, which came to $2000. So I got a $39000 for about the price of a non- navigation base 08 TL $34000. There are rumors of Awd for the next generation, I don’t think that will happen as that will eat into the already poor sales of the RL and plus Acura always base there TL's on the front wheel drive only Honda Accord frames (except for the 96-98 versions). If all wheel drive is going to be avail on a non Acura SUV besides the RL, I think it will be the next TSX (2010). Since TSX will never get a V6 it will mostly share its drive train layout with the RDX, as 205hp nowadays is nothing, and Acura is not going to repeat the same mistake that Infiniti made with the old G20. So buy now get that order in as it takes about three months for your car to arrive and who knows by summer they may slap another 500 on top of the 2000 as that was the year end incentive on the 2007 TL models. For what I can see I think the next TL is going to pull what Nissan did to the 2004 Maxima it is going to grow in size and weight and lose some of the agility of the current generation. Hope this helps!
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