just went to the mazdausa site. cx-9 has automatic headlights. they turn on when it gets dark, turn off when it get light. had that technology on my 1983 tbird, too. also, specs list 2 trip odometers. hope this helps.
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If the Mazda is sold in Canada it has to have DRL's. You can probably have a US dealer activate them on the car's computer control module, just like a lot of cars. Problem solved!
Automatic headlights aren't really similar to DRLs... UNLESS you leave the lights in "auto" mode and cover the light sensor on the top of the dash with something. It could be done (somewhat) tastefully with black electrical tape probably, or even construction paper.
Doing this will make the lights come on (all the lights, side marker, tail, etc.) when the ignition is on and shut off when the ignition is off.
Lack of DRL would not be my primary reason for not buying this car. It just surprises me that my 1999 Camry had it and my 2004 Sienna has it but a 2007 CX9 does not have it. Safety is my priority and I'm sure DRL's gives you an edge in safety over a car without it. See Insurance Institute for Highway Safety website about effectivenes of DRLs:
Where is this "so much room" for passengers? How much wider are the captain chairs in the Acadia in the 2nd row to make up for the 3.5" less legroom?
Also, the hip room for the Acadia's 3rd row is 48.3" (GMC webpage) and for the Freestyle it's 45.9" I wonder how the Acadia can squeeze three people in their 3rd row with that extra 2.5"??? It seems like the Freestyle is at least more honest since it doesn't try to claim that the 3rd row seats 3 across.
And the hip room in the Acadia is only about 2" greater in all three rows, yet it's 4" wider on the outside.
And yes, the Acadia has a lot more shoulder room due to the sides being more vertical than the Freestyle, but hiproom dimension adds more to comfort than shoulder room. How many times have you sat in a car where your shoulders were touching the inside of the car?
Exactly, that's why I'm surprised at the Acadia's hip dimensions for the vehicle's width. They claim that both the 2nd and 3rd row will sit three across, yet the 2nd row's hiproom is 57.9" but the 3rd row is only 48.3" The second row's hiproom of my Freestyle is 56" and it's hard for me to imagine losing 8" to that and still fitting 3 across. Plus again, the Acadia is 4" wider but only has 2" more hiproom, so why all the complaining about Ford's lack of interior space?
I think they designed the Acadia's interior more for cargo and to make it's interior cubic feet measurement seem so big and while it's nice to have the larger cubic feet of passenger/cargo space (and I'm sure that the GMC advertisers like it!), it's the true people space (hip & leg room) dimensions that really count...not overall cubic feet of interior space. Unless of course you're using it as a cargo carrier with all of the seats down.
But I don't think 6 passengers with their luggage behind the third row will have any more usuable space in the Acadia as they would in the Freestyle. And with the Freestyle they won't have to climb up as high, and this extra few inches of seat height of the Acadia can make it more difficult to climb in and out. And the extra exterior width, length and height of the Acadia won't help those 6 passengers.
To give another realistic perspective I'll share my passenger carrying experiences in our 2006 Explorer. It is an XLT with the 50/50 third row and second row 60/40 bench making it a seven passenger truck. Dimensions, from Ford's media site, are as follows:
Seating capacity 5, 6 or 7 passenger
Headroom
Front row 39.8 Second row 38.7 Third row 37.4
Legroom
Front row 42.4 Second row 36.9 Third row 34.9
Shoulder room
Front row 59 Second row 58.9 Third row 53.1
Hip room
Front row 55.4 Second row 55.5 Third row 45.3
As you can see they aren't that far off of the dimensions from the CUVs being compared here. Three full-size adults, ranging from 5'8" to 6'4" tall, with varying weights, have been in the second row and all were completely comfortable. I know that because I asked.
As for the third row, there is no way more than two people of any size could fit back there without adding 12+ inches of hip room therefore I don't see how the Acadia can make such a claim. I've had kids and adults in the third row of the Explorer and there is no room for one more. Period.
Furthermore, I have been up close and personal with the third row of an Acadia on a dealer lot and while it has some decent legroom back there I can't see more than two people of any size sitting across that row. Same goes for the CX-9 and Freestyle as I've been in them as well.
I'm going to the Pittsburgh auto show tonight so maybe I'll be back tomorrow with a different opinion, but I doubt it.
Lambda's seating for 8 is farcical, the only way they could really do it would be to reintroduce the front bench seat and I bet you could surmise how well that would go over...how do we rig a middle seat airbag for that passenger...hmmmm.
Waiting for the Flex and it's limo legroom thankyou, it will leap ahead of the Lambda triplets in comfort and style when it gets here by a great margin.
I sat in the 3rd row of the Acadia at the auto show with my wife and 8 year old son in the middle. It was reasonably comfortable. So 8 passenger seating in the Acadia is indeed possible. I'm 6'0" and I wouldn't want to put 8 six-footers in ANY current crossover, but the reality is for most families kids will be sitting in some of these seats.
As for the Flex leaping ahead of the Lambdas in styling - that's the funniest thing I've heard in a long time! I recognize styling is subjective and opinions will vary, but I bet the large majority of people will prefer the Lambdas and sales figures will reflect that. Only time will tell.
I've read the IIHS article before and it's about as positive as you'll find...and it's weak...and they obviously know it given the way it is presented on their site. I will agree, however, that if your getting a break from your insurance company maybe it's worth considering in the buying decision.
You either like it or you don't. Few cars give you the choice any more anyway. Blame or praise Saturn, depending on which way you feel. They seemed to popularize it.
I sat in the 3rd row of the Acadia at the auto show with my wife and 8 year old son in the middle. It was reasonably comfortable.
Comfort is subjective too. My and I have squeezed onto the living room loveseat with our two small boys and been "reasonably comfortable" too. I wouldn't want to be on that couch in that situation if it were going 65 down the highway, up and down hills and around bends though.
Here is a nice quick summary of statistics from many countries, including Canada, and a comment on bulb life with daytime running lights, and references.
Seeing that you only lose 3 inches from FS to Acadia Sorry-forgot to develop my statement. I meant, seeing that you only lose 3 in legroom in 2nd row Acadia, and row still seats comfortably, you gain 2 inches of hiproom in row 1 & 2, and 3 in row 3, for a vehicle thats 3 inches wider. So you do get a good amount of something for that extra width. So if you sit three across row 2, and 2 across row 3, then you should have more space and comfort in Acadia. Why all this talk of the Acadia being oversized? For 3 inches wider, you get two to three inches more hiproom. Sounds right to me.
Waiting for the Flex and it's limo legroom thankyou, it will leap ahead of the Lambda triplets in comfort and style when it gets here by a great margin. Comfort- from numbers listed, flex loses large amount of hiproom in all three rows, and legroom in front row to lambdas. The only place where space is gained is 2nd row legroom. Leap above? Don't think so there. Style. I sure don't think so there (not big stationwagon fan-I thought minivans were rumored their demise) but to each his own. I prefer sporty and sleek and bold to boxy and bold. Flex leaps ahead of lambdas and other CUV's? not by the numbers posted.
I don't think any of the Lambda CUV's could ever be described as sporty, and the Enclave is the only one that could be even remotely described as sleek. If you want sporty and sleek, I believe you'd better look at the CX-9 or MDX (although I don't think it's that sleek).
That 2nd row legroom also makes for a significant increase in 3rd row legroom as well since the seats will slide instead on tumbling like the current units. I'm not sure anyone can make any relevant size just yet being that all dimensions are not official and have been pulled from the main website for now. There also were no capacity specs ever posted.
I'm not sure which is better for me. The Flex screems wagon from the profile, but the Acadia profile is pure minivan without the sliding doors. That's why I guess I like the Veracruz. It doesn't really evoke either reaction, but it's utility is not quite up to par with the bigger CUV's.
As it is now, I think the CUVs still have a some ways to go in design for families with young children to deliver a knock out punch to the minivan.
I don't think anybody who is willing to drive a minivan would ever get a CUV. Minivans have more room and they're more comfortable. Personally, I would never drive a minivan. We've looked at the Odyssey before and while the inside is absolutely cavornous and it's very comfortable, there is just no way I could drive one of those things. In 2003, we bought a Toyota Sequoia. It costs more, has less room, is less comfortable and gets worse gas mileage than any minivan. So why did we buy it? Because I like the way it looks and it serves our needs. I like CUVs because for a full size SUV owner like me, they give me almost as much room, are just as comfortable, cost less, and get better gas mileage than my Sequoia and its not a minivan.
Wow. Amazing. The lengths we all go because we see the appliances we drive as extensions of ourselves. Kinda points out how insecure the car buying public (myself included) tends to be.
Gotta think more on that one...and reconsider for just whom and for what reasons I am making my next purchase.
Though this is the case a lot of the time (there was this lawyer in the new Taurus forum that said he couldn't drive a taurus because it would hurt his image!) but there are still many out there (like myself)who want a car just because it looks good. I prefer the styling of SUVs/CUVs to minivans. Nothing to do with self image.
No- the lambdas aren't sproty (well compared to the Flex- yes) but they do have a sense of sleek. And they look too bold to show any minivan in the styling. If you want to see minivan with SUV front, look at old GM sport vans. Makes these replacements look pure SUV. The CX9 looks like a minivan. MY thing with the Vera Cruz like I said before is that it is like a not totally successful take on copying the RX350-a design that's already a little trite from being over copied. With other CUVs in this forum like the MDX, Flex, and lambdas don't copy that design, but bring fresh ones to the market.
Now that Toyota is officially #1 automaker for the month of March, what do you guys think on the CUV side of things? will the new Highlander outsell the GM Lambdas?
No- the lambdas aren't sproty (well compared to the Flex- yes) but they do have a sense of sleek.
Compared to the Flex... sporty looking, but a load worth of bricks weighs less. Sleeker... yes, but just barely. The CX-9 has closer ties with a wagon than a minivan. Just look at it. It's long and lean with a high beltline. The VC dimensions just come together with the design much better, similar to the CX-9 IMO. The Flex, Acadia, and Outlook tend to come across looking overly long for the rest of their dimensions for some reason. The Enclave seems to be able to shake that for some reason. Maybe it's the overall curvy-ness of the design. The Acadia is not completely an all new design, but atleast they copied themselves. GMC design strategy: take an Envoy, make it unibody and lower it, add thicker pillars at the rear, and change headlights and tail lights. The Saturn and Buick are definitely originals though.
Now that Toyota is officially #1 automaker for the month of March, what do you guys think on the CUV side of things? will the new Highlander outsell the GM Lambdas?
It's possible, but it would be because of perceived quality alone rather than actual content or drivability. The new Highlander fails at creating a comfortable space for 7. It's more in line with the Hyundai Santa Fe in terms of seating 7. Everybody will fit, but there will be alot of complaining.
The CX-9 has closer ties with a wagon than a minivan. All crossovers are essentially stationwagons- so they should all have ties. But with the swooping front and rear, CX9 just looks like a minivan with an awkardly elongated front. The Acadia doesn't look as big as it really is, some design element, I guess. It has a very well porportioned look-unllike the front of the CX9 and FS. The VeraCruz design doesn't seem to come together all the way, to me. It's like 2 different styles. One is RX350, the other, minivanish. I don't se how the Acadia looks like an Envoy-at all. This has a wider muscular stance with a high beltline-which gives it a bit of a sporty look to me.
You don't see the van in that? The entire back looks like a shortened van. The front looks like hyundai copied lexus. The tailights somehow remind me of a toyota van. The the lambdas do not look long. Even in person, they don't look large. Someone need to show me the envoy in the styling of the Acadia. A grille doesn't count. Envoy is upright, while the Acadia is a lot less boxy. Really-the Acadia and the Envoy look nothing alike. A brick? If you rreally look at the shape, it looks like the old MDX. Is that a brick. You must mean brick in that it is so large.
I own an Envoy and can certainly see the evolution of the Envoy into the Acadia styling. In fact, the Acadia is replacing the Envoy as the Envoy will be dropped in the near future. Both are very attractive vehicles.
I was just responding to your comment about how much more you get in the Acadia, but as you pointed out, you get a little more interior passenger width, but I still say that you notice the loss of 3-4" of legroom more than you notice the extra 2-3" of hiproom. And it just seems that since the Acadia is longer by 1-2" that you'd think it would give more legroom rather than losing 3-4" to the Freestyle. The same with headroom.
On another subject, people are often impractical in a lot of areas of their life, so being impractical in their car choice should surprise anyone (eg...buying a CUV when they really need a minivan...sort of like a woman who buys her shoes too small...maybe she looks more stylish, but at the end of the day she has sore feet! That's how I classify folks buying CUVs/SUVs who, based on their usage, should be buying a minivan).
I don't see how you consider that a van-like feature, the tail gate is just like every wagon out there(yes not like the suv's), it's ugly, but I can't see the van in it. I can see the Acaidia resemblence to the Envoy(more dressed up?. Why did GM recall their product again? Expected?
The same with headroom. Wait a minute. The Acadia has the same headroom dimensions as the FS, except in the first row where it has an inch more. On another subject, people are often impractical in a lot of areas of their life, so being impractical in their car choice should surprise anyone But still, there are some that can do with a cuv and DON'T need a minivan. Take an older family who likes to travel, with 2 kids in their early teens who play sports. They don't really need a minivan.And if the parent who is purchasing the vehicle doesn't like the look of minivans (maybe has had one in the past) then I son't see anything wrong with the purchase of a cuv.
If your talking about the Envoy, they are keeping it but dumping the Envoy XL, as the body on frame "real SUV" market continues to rapidly lose sales. Plus, the Xl was terrible at handling, and its replacement, the Acadia, has more interior space in every dimension, while being over half a foot shorter in length and a lot shorter in height.
The Envoy XL is already gone and the regular Envoy may well have 2008 as its last year. Too bad, as the Envoy can still do things the Acadia can't, like tow my 5000ib boat. Once the mid size SUV's go one will have to go with a full size SUV or pickup to do any towing beyond very small trailers/boats. The new CUV's won't cut it.
Just a thought as I'm unfamiliar with seat dimensions. Is it possible that the depth of the seat bottom or thickness (for comfort and safety) of the seatback are affecting the legroom? If the seat is an inch deeper and the legroom in front of the seat is an inch shorter, you have roughly the same amount of total legroom.
Is anyone knowledgable of the actual seat dimensions? It might help solve this issue - here and when comparing other vehicles for comfort.
If the Explorer survives, it will be a unibody CUV with towing capacity. Of course Ford could have continued it as a rear drive body-on-frame had they been more creative with styling and design. Something that would have out-classed the Hummer H3 and maybe ran with the Acura MDX, but for less money? Oh well, water under the bridge.
My tight shoe comment was directed at those NEEDING a minivan for space but don't buy it because of the looks. Nothing wrong for a family of 4 buying a CUV who only uses the 3rd row on occasion.
And the Acadia is 72.8" high as compared to the Freestyle 68.8" high. That's both with roof rack. The Acadia's webpage didn't give the height with the roofrack, but the Saturn Outlook webpage did. And the Freestyle's roof is even lower towards the front of the car by another 1-2" so even though the Acadia has 4-6" extra height, it only has a inch more 1st row headroom, and a little less 2nd & 3rd row headroom as compared to the Freestyle (I guess you have to do a little more climbing to get into the Acadia).
I guess you have to do a little more climbing to get into the Acadia Not really. A good deal less than the traditional midsize SUV. But if you want a CUV- that's the tradeoff you get. I guess we can gripe about numbers all we want, But magazines have tested both of these CUVs and found them both comfortable.
You don't see the van in that? The entire back looks like a shortened van.
No, you might be the only one.
The front looks like hyundai copied lexus. The tailights somehow remind me of a toyota van.
Disagree 100%. The next thing I am going to read Sonata copied the Camry (even though it came out first), Santa Fe copied the RAV4...wait I read that already , it was from a Toyota sponsored Veracruz review.
The the lambdas do not look long. Even in person, they don't look large
Disagree 100%. The next thing I am going to read Sonata copied the Camry (even though it came out first), Santa Fe copied the RAV4...wait I read that already , it was from a Toyota sponsored Veracruz review. The front totally looks like the RX350. Even though this wasn't my point, the sonata does look a little like the Camry two model years ago. What's your definition of large? The Chevy Tahoe. I think that makes the lambdas look relatively small for actual size.
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also, specs list 2 trip odometers. hope this helps.
Doing this will make the lights come on (all the lights, side marker, tail, etc.) when the ignition is on and shut off when the ignition is off.
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http://www.iihs.org/research/qanda/drl.html
Edmunds listed the CX9 as being without trip odos in their comparison tool - maybe I read wrong.
Where is this "so much room" for passengers? How much wider are the captain chairs in the Acadia in the 2nd row to make up for the 3.5" less legroom?
Also, the hip room for the Acadia's 3rd row is 48.3" (GMC webpage) and for the Freestyle it's 45.9" I wonder how the Acadia can squeeze three people in their 3rd row with that extra 2.5"??? It seems like the Freestyle is at least more honest since it doesn't try to claim that the 3rd row seats 3 across.
And the hip room in the Acadia is only about 2" greater in all three rows, yet it's 4" wider on the outside.
And yes, the Acadia has a lot more shoulder room due to the sides being more vertical than the Freestyle, but hiproom dimension adds more to comfort than shoulder room. How many times have you sat in a car where your shoulders were touching the inside of the car?
And if recent studies tell us anything, we Americans need the extra hip room based on our diets! :surprise:
I think they designed the Acadia's interior more for cargo and to make it's interior cubic feet measurement seem so big and while it's nice to have the larger cubic feet of passenger/cargo space (and I'm sure that the GMC advertisers like it!), it's the true people space (hip & leg room) dimensions that really count...not overall cubic feet of interior space. Unless of course you're using it as a cargo carrier with all of the seats down.
But I don't think 6 passengers with their luggage behind the third row will have any more usuable space in the Acadia as they would in the Freestyle. And with the Freestyle they won't have to climb up as high, and this extra few inches of seat height of the Acadia can make it more difficult to climb in and out. And the extra exterior width, length and height of the Acadia won't help those 6 passengers.
Seating capacity 5, 6 or 7 passenger
Headroom
Front row 39.8
Second row 38.7
Third row 37.4
Legroom
Front row 42.4
Second row 36.9
Third row 34.9
Shoulder room
Front row 59
Second row 58.9
Third row 53.1
Hip room
Front row 55.4
Second row 55.5
Third row 45.3
As you can see they aren't that far off of the dimensions from the CUVs being compared here. Three full-size adults, ranging from 5'8" to 6'4" tall, with varying weights, have been in the second row and all were completely comfortable. I know that because I asked.
As for the third row, there is no way more than two people of any size could fit back there without adding 12+ inches of hip room therefore I don't see how the Acadia can make such a claim. I've had kids and adults in the third row of the Explorer and there is no room for one more. Period.
Furthermore, I have been up close and personal with the third row of an Acadia on a dealer lot and while it has some decent legroom back there I can't see more than two people of any size sitting across that row. Same goes for the CX-9 and Freestyle as I've been in them as well.
I'm going to the Pittsburgh auto show tonight so maybe I'll be back tomorrow with a different opinion, but I doubt it.
Waiting for the Flex and it's limo legroom thankyou, it will leap ahead of the Lambda triplets in comfort and style when it gets here by a great margin.
As for the Flex leaping ahead of the Lambdas in styling - that's the funniest thing I've heard in a long time! I recognize styling is subjective and opinions will vary, but I bet the large majority of people will prefer the Lambdas and sales figures will reflect that. Only time will tell.
Gotta link...to a US study?
Here you go...
www.safercar.gov
Here's a counter-point that is a little more detailed. http://www-nrd.nhtsa.dot.gov/pdf/nrd-30/NCSA/Rpts/2000/DRL7_RPT.pdf
Here you go...
www.safercar.gov"
Did you read it? If so, did it really impress you? If so, we'll agree to disagree.
Comfort is subjective too. My and I have squeezed onto the living room loveseat with our two small boys and been "reasonably comfortable" too. I wouldn't want to be on that couch in that situation if it were going 65 down the highway, up and down hills and around bends though.
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Sorry-forgot to develop my statement. I meant, seeing that you only lose 3 in legroom in 2nd row Acadia, and row still seats comfortably, you gain 2 inches of hiproom in row 1 & 2, and 3 in row 3, for a vehicle thats 3 inches wider. So you do get a good amount of something for that extra width. So if you sit three across row 2, and 2 across row 3, then you should have more space and comfort in Acadia. Why all this talk of the Acadia being oversized? For 3 inches wider, you get two to three inches more hiproom. Sounds right to me.
Comfort- from numbers listed, flex loses large amount of hiproom in all three rows, and legroom in front row to lambdas. The only place where space is gained is 2nd row legroom. Leap above? Don't think so there. Style. I sure don't think so there (not big stationwagon fan-I thought minivans were rumored their demise) but to each his own. I prefer sporty and sleek and bold to boxy and bold. Flex leaps ahead of lambdas and other CUV's? not by the numbers posted.
That 2nd row legroom also makes for a significant increase in 3rd row legroom as well since the seats will slide instead on tumbling like the current units. I'm not sure anyone can make any relevant size just yet being that all dimensions are not official and have been pulled from the main website for now. There also were no capacity specs ever posted.
I'm not sure which is better for me. The Flex screems wagon from the profile, but the Acadia profile is pure minivan without the sliding doors. That's why I guess I like the Veracruz. It doesn't really evoke either reaction, but it's utility is not quite up to par with the bigger CUV's.
I'm not sure it's subjective but it certainly is specific to the individual.
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I don't think anybody who is willing to drive a minivan would ever get a CUV. Minivans have more room and they're more comfortable. Personally, I would never drive a minivan. We've looked at the Odyssey before and while the inside is absolutely cavornous and it's very comfortable, there is just no way I could drive one of those things. In 2003, we bought a Toyota Sequoia. It costs more, has less room, is less comfortable and gets worse gas mileage than any minivan. So why did we buy it? Because I like the way it looks and it serves our needs. I like CUVs because for a full size SUV owner like me, they give me almost as much room, are just as comfortable, cost less, and get better gas mileage than my Sequoia and its not a minivan.
Gotta think more on that one...and reconsider for just whom and for what reasons I am making my next purchase.
Compared to the Flex... sporty looking, but a load worth of bricks weighs less. Sleeker... yes, but just barely. The CX-9 has closer ties with a wagon than a minivan. Just look at it. It's long and lean with a high beltline. The VC dimensions just come together with the design much better, similar to the CX-9 IMO. The Flex, Acadia, and Outlook tend to come across looking overly long for the rest of their dimensions for some reason. The Enclave seems to be able to shake that for some reason. Maybe it's the overall curvy-ness of the design. The Acadia is not completely an all new design, but atleast they copied themselves. GMC design strategy: take an Envoy, make it unibody and lower it, add thicker pillars at the rear, and change headlights and tail lights. The Saturn and Buick are definitely originals though.
It's possible, but it would be because of perceived quality alone rather than actual content or drivability. The new Highlander fails at creating a comfortable space for 7. It's more in line with the Hyundai Santa Fe in terms of seating 7. Everybody will fit, but there will be alot of complaining.
All crossovers are essentially stationwagons- so they should all have ties. But with the swooping front and rear, CX9 just looks like a minivan with an awkardly elongated front. The Acadia doesn't look as big as it really is, some design element, I guess. It has a very well porportioned look-unllike the front of the CX9 and FS. The VeraCruz design doesn't seem to come together all the way, to me. It's like 2 different styles. One is RX350, the other, minivanish. I don't se how the Acadia looks like an Envoy-at all. This has a wider muscular stance with a high beltline-which gives it a bit of a sporty look to me.
If well proportioned means overly long, then we're in agreement. A sporty looking brick is still a brick.
The the lambdas do not look long. Even in person, they don't look large. Someone need to show me the envoy in the styling of the Acadia. A grille doesn't count. Envoy is upright, while the Acadia is a lot less boxy. Really-the Acadia and the Envoy look nothing alike. A brick? If you rreally look at the shape, it looks like the old MDX. Is that a brick. You must mean brick in that it is so large.
On another subject, people are often impractical in a lot of areas of their life, so being impractical in their car choice should surprise anyone (eg...buying a CUV when they really need a minivan...sort of like a woman who buys her shoes too small...maybe she looks more stylish, but at the end of the day she has sore feet! That's how I classify folks buying CUVs/SUVs who, based on their usage, should be buying a minivan).
I can see the Acaidia resemblence to the Envoy(more dressed up?. Why did GM recall their product again? Expected?
Wait a minute. The Acadia has the same headroom dimensions as the FS, except in the first row where it has an inch more.
On another subject, people are often impractical in a lot of areas of their life, so being impractical in their car choice should surprise anyone
But still, there are some that can do with a cuv and DON'T need a minivan. Take an older family who likes to travel, with 2 kids in their early teens who play sports. They don't really need a minivan.And if the parent who is purchasing the vehicle doesn't like the look of minivans (maybe has had one in the past) then I son't see anything wrong with the purchase of a cuv.
Is anyone knowledgable of the actual seat dimensions? It might help solve this issue - here and when comparing other vehicles for comfort.
If the Explorer survives, it will be a unibody CUV with towing capacity. Of course Ford could have continued it as a rear drive body-on-frame had they been more creative with styling and design. Something that would have out-classed the Hummer H3 and maybe ran with the Acura MDX, but for less money? Oh well, water under the bridge.
And the Acadia is 72.8" high as compared to the Freestyle 68.8" high. That's both with roof rack. The Acadia's webpage didn't give the height with the roofrack, but the Saturn Outlook webpage did. And the Freestyle's roof is even lower towards the front of the car by another 1-2" so even though the Acadia has 4-6" extra height, it only has a inch more 1st row headroom, and a little less 2nd & 3rd row headroom as compared to the Freestyle (I guess you have to do a little more climbing to get into the Acadia).
Not really. A good deal less than the traditional midsize SUV. But if you want a CUV- that's the tradeoff you get.
I guess we can gripe about numbers all we want, But magazines have tested both of these CUVs and found them both comfortable.
No, you might be the only one.
The front looks like hyundai copied lexus. The tailights somehow remind me of a toyota van.
Disagree 100%. The next thing I am going to read Sonata copied the Camry (even though it came out first), Santa Fe copied the RAV4...wait I read that already , it was from a Toyota sponsored Veracruz review.
The the lambdas do not look long. Even in person, they don't look large
What's your definition of large?
You can gripe...I'm just posting the figures.
The front totally looks like the RX350. Even though this wasn't my point, the sonata does look a little like the Camry two model years ago.
What's your definition of large?
The Chevy Tahoe. I think that makes the lambdas look relatively small for actual size.