If the Sonata looks like any vehicles, it's a Honda Accord. I see very little Camry in it.
A Tahoe is large? I'm confused. The Tahoe is 1" longer, but actually narrower. What exactly is the qualification for large? It must just have to sit up higher and be marginally heavier to be large?
Then you probably haven't seen them up close and side by side.
Even though this wasn't my point, the sonata does look a little like the Camry two model years ago.
They both have four wheels?
The Chevy Tahoe. I think that makes the lambdas look relatively small for actual size.
Again, you probably haven't seen them up close and side by side. The regular Tahoe is certainly isn't setting fire on the size comparison vs. the Lambdas.
You don't see the van in that? The entire back looks like a shortened van.
No, you might be the only one.
He's not the only one. When I saw the picture I thought the Veracruz looked like a minivan from the B pillar back. That said, I think you can find a hint of minivan in all the newer crossovers, yet it's muted enough that I like the styling of most of them.
We test drove an Outlook yesterday. It looked, felt and drove like a big vehicle. For someone used to driving an SUV (Explorer, Blazer, Tahoe...), it probably drives great. Coming from a Highlander, it felt too big. We both preferred driving the Odyssey.
If the Sonata looks like any vehicles, it's a Honda Accord. I see very little Camry in it. The lights are squared just like the old camry (something like 97-00). If the Sonata looks like any vehicles, it's a Honda Accord. I see very little Camry in it. we're going off looks here and the Acadia definitely looks smaller than the Tahoe. It must just have to sit up higher and be marginally heavier to be large? that's it by some peoples standards.
Then you probably haven't seen them up close and side by side. you don't have to look at them side by side to tell. They both have four wheels? true but not the point. Again, you probably haven't seen them up close and side by side. The regular Tahoe is certainly isn't setting fire on the size comparison vs. the Lambdas. Anyone who has gone to an auto show has seen the Yukon and Acadia side by side. The Current Yukon/Tahoe definitly looks big compared to lambdas.
lol....I must agree. What was Ford thinking? This car is awful. I rode in a Freestyle as a pasanger. I asked the driver what make and model was this car. He said freestyle and I said TY. I will never buy this piece of junk. The seats were so uncomfortable by the time I had been dropped off at home (maybe a 20-30 min ride) my back was hurting so bad I just wanted to cry. Ford if ya listening....DROP THIS BUCKET IN A HURRY. And as for the guy who thinks there is more room in the CX9 for his 6'3 frame. All I can say is you have got to be kidding :confuse: I am 5'3 and I hit my head getting in and out of that car. Not to mention how clostophobic I felt. The Acadia has excellent room and just right for people like me who want the room of a big SUV but the drive/ride of a car instead of lumpy/dumpy ride of a top heavy truck.
CX-9 beat MDX (2nd) and Acadia (3rd) in recent MT comparison. Despite it's gas mileage being set at 16/22, the AWD CX-9 averaged better gas mileage in their tests than both the MDX and Acadia. I'm 6'3", and I fit fine in the CX-9. I had to duck in a bit, but I guess I'm used to it. I have to do the same in my Intrepid. The way I feel about the Acadia is the way I feel about plus-sized models... Overall, they look awesome, but they'd be even better if they dropped a few pounds... or in the Acadia's case a few hundred.
As i posted in another thread, i'll vouch for the 6'3" guy. I'm 6'4" and i don't think either of us are kidding when we say that we fit fine in the CX-9. As he said, we're used to having to duck to get in a vehicle, this is typical with nearly anything i get into. With the steering wheel pulled all the way out and the seat pushed back i have plenty of room. With the steering wheel pushed all the way in i feel like i have to bring the seat Forward a little to make it ideal. No claustrophobia for me. Just my opinion as a relatively tall guy...
"Edmunds listed the CX9 as being without trip odos in their comparison tool - maybe I read wrong."
Edmunds frequently gets it wrong. That's why I stopped reading them a long time ago. Their so bad, it's almost as if they exist to mislead. A manufacturer's website is a far more reliable source for the details.
Make that three...I'm 6'3" and the CX-9 fits fine...and even with a 35" inseam my knee doesn't rest against the console unless I scoot the seat up too far. I think maybe a lot of the posters here are coming either from Tahoe/Expedition size vehicles (console doesn't matter as much due to extra vehicle width) or mini-vans (no consoles) and perhaps that is where they should stay. If you have a strange driving position, you might find a lot of vehicles (other than ones without consoles) not to your liking since you probably fall outside the design parameters.
Did everyone catch the Motor Trend comparison with the Acadia, CX-9 and MDX? If not, be sure to catch which vehicle got compared to a mini-van...and it got that comparison because it doesn't handle like a car, it handles like a mini-van; i.e.: not very well.
Like Motor Trend or not, their comparison article followed exactly how I felt after looking at and driving the three vehicles. I only wish they'd included the VC so I could have seen a more critical opinion than the ones that have been written to date ("first-drive" articles are often "fluff" pieces). If they had I think it would have ended up CX-9, MDX, VC (better handling and interior than Acadia, but worse handling than CX and MDX with other things about equal), Acadia. Maybe we'll see something similar soon.
I didn't link either the Camry or the Sonata because it is not the topic of disucssions but just to show you...
By the way, the Accord reference is far-fetched too because as the particular Accord model debuted, the design for the Sonata had already froze. A small concindence, I'd say, just like most of the car on the road these days can be describe as derivatives, from almost every auto manfacturer.
you don't have to look at them side by side to tell.
See above post. With photo illustration.
Anyone who has gone to an auto show has seen the Yukon and Acadia side by side. The Current Yukon/Tahoe definitly looks big compared to lambdas.
However, I doubt GM had the Tahoe and Acadia next to each other at any of the auto show. I've actually had a Tahoe and a Acadia parked right next to each other, and trust me, an Acadia is just as big as a Tahoe. Numbers don't lie, and neither does in real-life.
Just for reference, the Tahoe is 202 inches long, the Acadia is 1.7 inches shorter, at 200.3. Find 1.7 inches on a ruler, and tell me if you think that's a big disparity.
The Hyundai and Lexus sure don't look alike, as evidenced by the above photos...at least not any more than the CX-9, 2008 Tribeca, etc. They all have their own look, but like most current larger CUVs, reflect a generally preferred shape with CUV cliches. It is sort of like looking at cars from the 30's or cars from the 40's: they all had their own styling nuances, but general shapes easily identify the era.
If tail ends were shown without the rest of the vehicle, it would be pretty hard to tell what was a station wagon, minivan, CUV or even SUV. Roof slope angle sure isn't correlated with one or the other, and all tend to have either liftgates or split tailgates. In the end (so to speak) the styling details are completely subjective.
OMG! They look so similar! It looks like Hyundai took the exact design of RX and tweaked and twisted it in different areas! You guys do understand that's exactly what the Vera Curz was modeled after, right? As for the Sonata- I was a little incorrect on that, but that style is NOT fresh by any means.
OMG! They look so similar! It looks like Hyundai took the exact design of RX and tweaked and twisted it in different areas! Might I add- I mean this for the front end of both RX and VC. But the overall shape of both is still the same.
However, I doubt GM had the Tahoe and Acadia next to each other at any of the auto show. The statement clearly says YUKON. 1- this statment was originally about looks. It's obvious the Acadia's real size. 2- The Acadia is not as tall as the Tahoe/Yukon. On some on this forum think an inch is a lot of difference(me not being one of them). The Tahoe is smaller than 77 in. in width?
I agree..they are identical,with just enough to avoid a law suit, arumage: did you read what MT said about the Veracruz in the next page to the comparison? I wish they included it too, but it seems they have a view on it like I used to before driving it(still think its 3rd row hole effect is aweful, aside from looks or performance to the 9, but much closer than the mammoth cuv,although when you think about it, GM makes simillar sense to the VC, except they use BIGGER instead of cheaper).
Well-ofcourse they all have relatively the same shape, but the Fs and Edge don't look nearly as much like the RX as the VC. Like I said- Hyundai did this on purpose. Many mistake the VC for the RX, and believe me, Hyundai WANTS it that way. in another example, has anyone seen the Hyundai Genisis concept? Does anyone have a vague feeling they've seen it before? (M35, GS). Later on as hyundai develops its foothold in the US market even more, they will start having an identity. What'm I talking about? They will slap the same grille on the diffenrent looking Sante Fe and VC (using ford as example).
OMG! They look so similar! It looks like Hyundai took the exact design of RX and tweaked and twisted it in different areas! You guys do understand that's exactly what the Vera Curz was modeled after, right? As for the Sonata- I was a little incorrect on that, but that style is NOT fresh by any means.
To each own but you really need to get out and put the two side by side. Just remember a circle is not a facsimile of a square but if you insist to believe otherwise, then be my guest.
As for the Sonata- I was a little incorrect on that
Well what do you know!! I would strike through "a little" also.
"The seats were so uncomfortable by the time I had been dropped off at home (maybe a 20-30 min ride) my back was hurting so bad I just wanted to cry."
Well, having owned one for over a year, I have to disagree. I find the seats very comfortable. But then I have the leather seating, perhaps that is the difference.
The FS is simply amazing; great safety features (mine has the now-standard curtain airbags), taut ride, and good MPG for a 4200 lb vehicle. Personally, I like the 3.0L engine mated to the CVT.
Well-ofcourse they all have relatively the same shape, but the Fs and Edge don't look nearly as much like the RX as the VC. Like I said- Hyundai did this on purpose. Many mistake the VC for the RX, and believe me, Hyundai WANTS it that way. in another example, has anyone seen the Hyundai Genisis concept? Does anyone have a vague feeling they've seen it before? (M35, GS). Later on as hyundai develops its foothold in the US market even more, they will start having an identity. What'm I talking about? They will slap the same grille on the diffenrent looking Sante Fe and VC (using ford as example).
If you say this tree is identical to that tree then it is true only in your eye. Do I have to tell you this cloud looks like rabbit?
in another example, has anyone seen the Hyundai Genisis concept? Does anyone have a vague feeling they've seen it before?
Yes, I have seen it, and I don't feel like I've seen it before. The examples you provided don't look a whole lot like the Genesis from any angles. The Genesis is not exactly ground breaking in style, but it does have its own style. I agree about the RX and VC though. While they have certain aspects all their own. I think Hyundai enjoys people mistaking the two.
To each own but you really need to get out and put the two side by side. Just remember a circle is not a facsimile of a square but if you insist to believe otherwise, then be my guest You need to look at auto show reviews for the VC. If hundreds of viewers are confusing this for a Lexus RX, it must look like one. And that's what's being said. Get in the Game! Well what do you know!! I would strike through "a little" also. I wouldn't. For overall body shapes that look the same, I was very close. And who does Hyundai copy? Industry Leaders. Toyota.
You need to look at auto show reviews for the VC. If hundreds of viewers are confusing this for a Lexus RX, it must look like one. And that's what's being said. Get in the Game!
You'd need to fix your logic fallacy first, be careful with your "if, then must" statements. Like I said earlier, agree to disagree.
I wouldn't. For overall body shapes that look the same, I was very close. And who does Hyundai copy? Industry Leaders. Toyota.
Overall body shapes look the same? So that must mean all sedans, all CUVs having similar body shapes are copy of each other. Again you are widely exaggerating. Sorry to burst your bubbles, no, you were not close.
Try convincing others the 2006 Sonata is a copy of the 1999 Camry. Your logic, if I recall, both have squared headlights. Then does that mean all cars with squared headlight must be copies? By the way, the 1999 Camry is not square shaped, and the 06 Sonata headlight is rectangle.
I was replying to what portion of my quote you put into your post. But please don't read sift through posts. You helped me, I'll help you. Anyone who has gone to an auto show has seen the Yukon and Acadia side by side. The Current Yukon/Tahoe definitly looks big compared to lambdas. But who cares they are still basically the same vehicle, and LOOK larger than the Lambdas.
I don't know how you would mistaken a RX for a VC, or vice versa. I've seen enough of it not to mistake the two, but those who haven't, do. And for the BH/Genesis, again, have you seen the concept in person? At the NY auto show. Looks great, but NOT original. I don't know what you are talking about. And what would a different looking Santa Fe or VC encompass? As for that part of my statement, look at other companies. Both of Acura's SUV's look similar. Ford and Chevy's do. LandROver, Jeep, must I go on? While Hyundai is smart enough to know not to slap grilles on cars, in the future, they will most definitely develop a style of their own, as CAdillac has done, and ford is trying to do.
Take the back of a Bimmer 5, the body of an infinity M45, and the front of a Lexus. Add different Head/ Tailights. What have you got? THis midsize sports sedan. Style-not frsh, but good looking. Hyundai should feel dirty steeling styling ques from other lux makers-NOT. Infinity does it. Acura does it. Even Lexus.
i wouldn't say amazing- Ford certainly didn't think they had an awesome vehicle (or else itmight still look relatively the same and retain the FS name). But it was a well rounded vehicle, I'd say the best overall CUV upon it's entry for being well rounded. But times have changed.
What I was trying to say was people have biased mind. When Hyundai or Kia launch a new car people try to find "this car is a copy of XXXX" however when Honda or Toyota launch a new car people don't think same way. If Hyundai designers copy other car design why would Hyundai pay them millions of dollars? Hyundai can hire average Joe designers and have them cut and paste. What if I say Scion tC is a copy of Hyundai Tiburon or 2008 Honda Accord coupe is a Tiburon's lost twin, would you agree with me? :P
You'd need to fix your logic fallacy first, be careful with your "if, then must" statements. Like I said earlier, agree to disagree. there is nothing to disagree on. Like I said. Hyundai designed this CUV to look a littl esimilar to the RX. They did this and gave it an atractive price so potential buyers will think they are getting RX standards without the RX price. all CUVs having similar body shapes are copy of each other. In many cases, actually, yes. Companies know that people are gravitating away from big square Suvs, because of the gas guzzling behemoth stigma. Am I saying all SUVs wanna be an RX? No. But do competitors like the Lambdas Edge Murano, CX7 and Rav 4 want to look a little sportier and gas saving? Yes. Page from the same playbook. The Ford Flex, however is an example of going against the current and doing something different, something that Chrysler 300 and Scion prove can be appealing.
What I was trying to say was people have biased mind. When Hyundai or Kia launch a new car people try to find "this car is a copy of XXXX" however when Honda or Toyota launch a new car people don't think same way. Not true. Both Lexus and Infinity have been trying to copy BMW for the past few years, whether it be design or performance. When both makers came to being, their goal was to copy Mercedes, the world class leader in luxury. And when Lexus started moving ahead of Infinity? Infinity copied Lexus. So the Koreans really haven't done anything new! :P
So Toyota should feel bad about taking the back or the Bimmer 5 for the new Camry? Besides the Hyundai Grandeur had bangle-butt long before it was popularized by BMW.
I think it got started with the thought that the Veracruz is just a RX350 clone... then it went to all Hyundai's are clones... etc., etc. The Veracruz is a little bit more of a clone than any of Hyundai's other models, but atleast they made it their own instead of going with a Chinese-like copy. Atleast they picked a nice looking vehicle to go after. :P
Besides the Hyundai Grandeur had bangle-butt long before it was popularized by BMW. Not sure about the Grandeur, but I don't know if the bangle butt look was popularized by bimmer-the way they are redisigning the rear ends of the 5 and 7 series. The body of the genisis does look like that of the Lexus GS. And the front end gives me a a hint of MAzda three-with the bimmer butt. Off topic. Any word on new Pilot?
The body of the genisis does look like that of the Lexus GS. And the front end gives me a a hint of MAzda three-with the bimmer butt.
To each his/her own, but I'd keep your opthamologist on speed dial just in case.
If the Pilot follows along the lines of the MDX like it has before, it will be about the size of the Veracruz (maybe a little bigger) rather than being as long as the CX-9 and Acadia. The previous generation MDX only had a mild power increase over the Pilot. If that trend stays the same, the Pilot could be the most powerful in this group so far.
If the new Pilot added another 6" in length, then I think it would be great. Even right now, at 188"x77.5"x70" (LWH), even though it's a foot shorter than the Acadia, it has about the same interior passenger space in headroom, hiproom, legroom and shoulder room. Not in overall cargo room with the seats folded, but in useable passenger space which I define as the headroom, hiproom, and legroom dimensions. But if was just 6" longer, then they could increase the behind the 3rd row cargo space to over 20CuFt and maybe add a couple of inches to the 3rd row legroom. And if they kept the base price at $27K they'd really have a winner, especially if they could increase the MPG a little.
3rd row room is poor in the new MDX so the new Pilot had better be longer. The current Pilot is plenty wide, but 3rd row legroom is also poor. 6" would definitely go a long way to fixing that. It's also going to have to get alot prettier too. The base price is destined to go up though. Just check out the increase on '06 vs '07 MDX ($3k). It would still definitely be a contender though.
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A Tahoe is large? I'm confused. The Tahoe is 1" longer, but actually narrower. What exactly is the qualification for large? It must just have to sit up higher and be marginally heavier to be large?
Then you probably haven't seen them up close and side by side.
Even though this wasn't my point, the sonata does look a little like the Camry two model years ago.
They both have four wheels?
The Chevy Tahoe. I think that makes the lambdas look relatively small for actual size.
Again, you probably haven't seen them up close and side by side. The regular Tahoe is certainly isn't setting fire on the size comparison vs. the Lambdas.
No, you might be the only one.
He's not the only one. When I saw the picture I thought the Veracruz looked like a minivan from the B pillar back. That said, I think you can find a hint of minivan in all the newer crossovers, yet it's muted enough that I like the styling of most of them.
The lights are squared just like the old camry (something like 97-00).
If the Sonata looks like any vehicles, it's a Honda Accord. I see very little Camry in it.
we're going off looks here and the Acadia definitely looks smaller than the Tahoe.
It must just have to sit up higher and be marginally heavier to be large?
that's it by some peoples standards.
you don't have to look at them side by side to tell.
They both have four wheels?
true but not the point.
Again, you probably haven't seen them up close and side by side. The regular Tahoe is certainly isn't setting fire on the size comparison vs. the Lambdas.
Anyone who has gone to an auto show has seen the Yukon and Acadia side by side. The Current Yukon/Tahoe definitly looks big compared to lambdas.
Edmunds frequently gets it wrong. That's why I stopped reading them a long time ago. Their so bad, it's almost as if they exist to mislead. A manufacturer's website is a far more reliable source for the details.
Did everyone catch the Motor Trend comparison with the Acadia, CX-9 and MDX? If not, be sure to catch which vehicle got compared to a mini-van...and it got that comparison because it doesn't handle like a car, it handles like a mini-van; i.e.: not very well.
Like Motor Trend or not, their comparison article followed exactly how I felt after looking at and driving the three vehicles. I only wish they'd included the VC so I could have seen a more critical opinion than the ones that have been written to date ("first-drive" articles are often "fluff" pieces). If they had I think it would have ended up CX-9, MDX, VC (better handling and interior than Acadia, but worse handling than CX and MDX with other things about equal), Acadia. Maybe we'll see something similar soon.
Look again then:
The tailights somehow remind me of a toyota van.
The lights are squared just like the old camry (something like 97-00).
Wow, if two cars both have four wheels, then they must look the same.
1998 Camry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:1998_toyota_camry.jpg
Sonata: http://www.driventodrive.com/images-vehicles/2006Sonata/2005_11854_std.jpg
I didn't link either the Camry or the Sonata because it is not the topic of disucssions but just to show you...
By the way, the Accord reference is far-fetched too because as the particular Accord model debuted, the design for the Sonata had already froze. A small concindence, I'd say, just like most of the car on the road these days can be describe as derivatives, from almost every auto manfacturer.
Back to crossover comparisons now.
See above post. With photo illustration.
Anyone who has gone to an auto show has seen the Yukon and Acadia side by side. The Current Yukon/Tahoe definitly looks big compared to lambdas.
However, I doubt GM had the Tahoe and Acadia next to each other at any of the auto show. I've actually had a Tahoe and a Acadia parked right next to each other, and trust me, an Acadia is just as big as a Tahoe. Numbers don't lie, and neither does in real-life.
Just for reference, the Tahoe is 202 inches long, the Acadia is 1.7 inches shorter, at 200.3. Find 1.7 inches on a ruler, and tell me if you think that's a big disparity.
Where did you see that? When I looked I couldn't find any mention of a trip odometer or lack thereof.
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If tail ends were shown without the rest of the vehicle, it would be pretty hard to tell what was a station wagon, minivan, CUV or even SUV. Roof slope angle sure isn't correlated with one or the other, and all tend to have either liftgates or split tailgates. In the end (so to speak) the styling details are completely subjective.
As for the Sonata- I was a little incorrect on that, but that style is NOT fresh by any means.
Might I add- I mean this for the front end of both RX and VC. But the overall shape of both is still the same.
The statement clearly says YUKON.
1- this statment was originally about looks. It's obvious the Acadia's real size.
2- The Acadia is not as tall as the Tahoe/Yukon. On some on this forum think an inch is a lot of difference(me not being one of them). The Tahoe is smaller than 77 in. in width?
it is nothing new. many other manufacturers have had the same strategy.
As for the Sonata- I was a little incorrect on that, but that style is NOT fresh by any means.
To each own but you really need to get out and put the two side by side. Just remember a circle is not a facsimile of a square but if you insist to believe otherwise, then be my guest.
As for the Sonata- I was a little incorrect on that
Well what do you know!! I would strike through "a little" also.
Go back and read through your original post.
Actually, I've taken the liberty:
The Chevy Tahoe. I think that makes the lambdas look relatively small for actual size.
Still think Acadia looks small vs. the Tahoe?
In that case, the Fortwo is identical to the Super Duty.
And for the BH/Genesis, again, have you seen the concept in person?
What'm I talking about? They will slap the same grille on the diffenrent looking Sante Fe and VC (using ford as example).
I don't know what you are talking about. And what would a different looking Santa Fe or VC encompass?
Well, having owned one for over a year, I have to disagree. I find the seats very comfortable. But then I have the leather seating, perhaps that is the difference.
The FS is simply amazing; great safety features (mine has the now-standard curtain airbags), taut ride, and good MPG for a 4200 lb vehicle. Personally, I like the 3.0L engine mated to the CVT.
To each his own, I suppose...
If you say this tree is identical to that tree then it is true only in your eye. Do I have to tell you this cloud looks like rabbit?
Yes, I have seen it, and I don't feel like I've seen it before. The examples you provided don't look a whole lot like the Genesis from any angles. The Genesis is not exactly ground breaking in style, but it does have its own style. I agree about the RX and VC though. While they have certain aspects all their own. I think Hyundai enjoys people mistaking the two.
You need to look at auto show reviews for the VC. If hundreds of viewers are confusing this for a Lexus RX, it must look like one. And that's what's being said. Get in the Game!
Well what do you know!! I would strike through "a little" also.
I wouldn't. For overall body shapes that look the same, I was very close. And who does Hyundai copy? Industry Leaders. Toyota.
You'd need to fix your logic fallacy first, be careful with your "if, then must" statements. Like I said earlier, agree to disagree.
I wouldn't. For overall body shapes that look the same, I was very close. And who does Hyundai copy? Industry Leaders. Toyota.
Overall body shapes look the same? So that must mean all sedans, all CUVs having similar body shapes are copy of each other. Again you are widely exaggerating. Sorry to burst your bubbles, no, you were not close.
Try convincing others the 2006 Sonata is a copy of the 1999 Camry. Your logic, if I recall, both have squared headlights. Then does that mean all cars with squared headlight must be copies? By the way, the 1999 Camry is not square shaped, and the 06 Sonata headlight is rectangle.
Anyone who has gone to an auto show has seen the Yukon and Acadia side by side. The Current Yukon/Tahoe definitly looks big compared to lambdas.
But who cares they are still basically the same vehicle, and LOOK larger than the Lambdas.
I've seen enough of it not to mistake the two, but those who haven't, do.
And for the BH/Genesis, again, have you seen the concept in person?
At the NY auto show. Looks great, but NOT original.
I don't know what you are talking about. And what would a different looking Santa Fe or VC encompass?
As for that part of my statement, look at other companies. Both of Acura's SUV's look similar. Ford and Chevy's do. LandROver, Jeep, must I go on? While Hyundai is smart enough to know not to slap grilles on cars, in the future, they will most definitely develop a style of their own, as CAdillac has done, and ford is trying to do.
What I was trying to say was people have biased mind. When Hyundai or Kia launch a new car people try to find "this car is a copy of XXXX" however when Honda or Toyota launch a new car people don't think same way. If Hyundai designers copy other car design why would Hyundai pay them millions of dollars? Hyundai can hire average Joe designers and have them cut and paste. What if I say Scion tC is a copy of Hyundai Tiburon or 2008 Honda Accord coupe is a Tiburon's lost twin, would you agree with me? :P
there is nothing to disagree on. Like I said. Hyundai designed this CUV to look a littl esimilar to the RX. They did this and gave it an atractive price so potential buyers will think they are getting RX standards without the RX price.
all CUVs having similar body shapes are copy of each other.
In many cases, actually, yes. Companies know that people are gravitating away from big square Suvs, because of the gas guzzling behemoth stigma. Am I saying all SUVs wanna be an RX? No. But do competitors like the Lambdas Edge Murano, CX7 and Rav 4 want to look a little sportier and gas saving? Yes. Page from the same playbook. The Ford Flex, however is an example of going against the current and doing something different, something that Chrysler 300 and Scion prove can be appealing.
Not true. Both Lexus and Infinity have been trying to copy BMW for the past few years, whether it be design or performance. When both makers came to being, their goal was to copy Mercedes, the world class leader in luxury. And when Lexus started moving ahead of Infinity? Infinity copied Lexus. So the Koreans really haven't done anything new! :P
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No offense, but try again.
BTW... It's a full size, not a midsize.
I'm not in the market to buy, so I can't really say about the competition. But I do like the FS.
BTW, I think it is still a well rounded vehicle... :shades:
Not sure about the Grandeur, but I don't know if the bangle butt look was popularized by bimmer-the way they are redisigning the rear ends of the 5 and 7 series.
The body of the genisis does look like that of the Lexus GS. And the front end gives me a a hint of MAzda three-with the bimmer butt.
Off topic.
Any word on new Pilot?
To each his/her own, but I'd keep your opthamologist on speed dial just in case.
If the Pilot follows along the lines of the MDX like it has before, it will be about the size of the Veracruz (maybe a little bigger) rather than being as long as the CX-9 and Acadia. The previous generation MDX only had a mild power increase over the Pilot. If that trend stays the same, the Pilot could be the most powerful in this group so far.