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I know that the AWS (whatever GM calls it) is available on the xl 3/4 ton, and you can add most of the options the Denali has, but it's not the same! I don't get why this hasn't been an option already....
As far as the back up camera - wow, my Acura MDX has it and it is GREAT! Darn, if the Acura was a little bigger, I wouldn't even be considering a Denali again! The Denali was on our short list when we bought the Acura, now I've told DH if these options are available we'll get the Denali.
You may well be right but I wouldn't underestimate the power of (expensive!) market research.
tidester, host
No one at the dealerships have a clue to future offerings. Makes sense, I guess, since they want to sell current vehicles, not one in a few months.
My research helped a few salespeople - they didn't know that the Denali is taller than the Denali XL (that inch and a little makes a difference, the XL fits into my garage, the regular one is too tall!)... one salesman told me he had searched every dealership within 500 miles to find an XL with nav and RES, there were none available - I had already verified I think 5 at a dealership 20 miles away. Yeech! Small town dealership! They wanted us to buy this one with a package they added - a push bar and dvd player - screens in the headrests - for an extra $5k! Yes, I ran quickly from there!
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No one at the dealerships have a clue to future offerings.
The dealerships aren't paying for market research and one's experience with a single dealership or local market doesn't indicate market trend. I'm only saying that we may think such and such is a great market idea but I don't think our feelings have quite the same value as solid market research.
tidester, host
I was at a GM Autoshow in Motion event and tested the '04 Escalade and '04 Escalade ESV. I noticed with the middle row (whether bench or captains chairs) there was no handle to adjust the seat back angle.
Didn't have time to check the seats on the Denalis at the show, so I'm wondering if this feature was de-contented or if the handles were just relocated.
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I found these LED lights:
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I'm wondering if, because of the very low current draw, they could be easier to install in the doors and footwell. Just wire them into the "signal delivery" circuit? Would appreciate your thoughts.
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Charley
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I've never been a big GM fan, mostly because I know too many people who have them and complain of rattling and other mechanical problems. However, I know this one is in great shape and has been well taken care of. My wife wants it for the 3rd row seats and as a long term solution for her and her car-pooling, soccer mom duties. She currently has an 2002 ML500 (if anyone's interested).
Silver is closer to "greys" befitting your screen name here. ;-) Besides, silver, with the possible exception of white, is the most forgiving of both dust and dirt. It looks pretty good even if you cannot always wash the daily grime away.
Your profile doesn't specify your location, but black also retains heat much worse than silver would; making summer comfort a consideration.
But, once you decide, just never look back (except, of course, to admire the beauty of your pick and the incredible wisdom you displayed in picking black/silver, as the case may be!).
As for the Denali, here's the '05 changes:
Deletions:
- 145-amp alternator (KG3)
- Exterior color Polo Green Metallic (47U)
- External engine oil cooler (KC4)
New Features:
- Touch-screen enhancement on Touch-screen Navigation Radio (UM8).
- Enhancements to tire pressure monitoring system (UJ6) indicate which tire is low.
- 160-amp alternator (KW1)
- Heavy-duty external engine oil cooler (KNP)
- Exterior color Steel Gray Metallic (16U)
- Exterior color Blue-Green Crystal (26U)
As far as pricing, the stickers are very much the same, it's just that you won't get the approx. $10k discount on the '05 as you can get now on an '04. The differences are so minor, I'd just go for the '04 with the big discount.
-mike
Unless you're worried about kangaroos escaping from the Bronx Zoo?
:-)
Steve, Host
True true, but I know where the end of my truck is when I use those bars to push the other vehicles in the spots
I just couldn't fathom someone needing to use those sensors, yeah they are a cool gimmick, but if I wasn't comfortable enough to backup without hitting something I would not be driving such a vehicle!
Thinking of getting an '03 or '04 Denali XL myself, need more towing, and travel capacity for http://TeamIAC.com
-mike
Actually, I would love the rear sensors to feel a little better that I'm not going to run over somebody more than the concern about hitting something.
We have a quarter-turn, up a slope driveway into our front garage. Obviously, we pull into the garage forward and so back out when leaving going over the front sidewalk of course. I always check behind the car before pulling out, watch the side mirrors all the way down (windshield-mounted rear view is useless for anything smaller than a Yukon or farther than 40 feet behind), and pause to look both ways up and down sidewalk as well as street before crossing the first and out into the second. Even so, blind spots are huge, children are fast, complacency grows with time, and I would hate to face the results of even a single mistake in hitting some person.
I suppose, I could break down and get one of those fresnel lenses to stick on my rear hatch window. I am over fifty now, so I guess it wouldn't be the end of the world if my ride screams out "CODGER AHEAD!!!" as I drive.... ;-)
-mike
A child, who is not paying attention, could run behind my truck no matter how slowly I am backing. Even crawling backward, as I do, I'm afraid the child might suffer horribly from what might seem even the slightest bump. Plus, if the child got past my view and I didn't feel the impact (a child doesn't resist like a post, after all), I might well run over the startled child once s/he's down.
I know, I know, it sounds like so much neuroticism, huh? But, I'd be willing to bet such things happen much more often than we think. And it is no small thing for anyone involved, I'm sure of that.
I mean how many times do you hear about people dying by being hit by lightning? Doesn't seem common, does it? Even so, it is one of the most frequent nature-death-caused events. I think maybe only flooding kills more each year.
Many of the lightning deaths happen on golf courses where golfers stay out in the open near thunder storms, no doubt buoyed in confidence thinking that the odds are low of being struck since they personally have never before known anyone hit by lightning.
The same unscientific "common sense" approach to such things keeps people propagating all kinds of superstition, buying lottery tickets, falling for get-rich-quick scams, and -- all too frequently -- finding out the hard way that something bad which was easily-avoidable is much more likely to happen than they ever dared suppose. Just think of the surprise that must be common for talking-on-the-cell-phone drivers as they finally and too late become aware of the accident they are now a part of (or maybe caused)!
Without the sensors (and even with them!) I will continue to be a little neurotic in hopes that I will at least avoid increasing the "accident" chances by adding complacency to the mix.
-mike
WBZ4
A more recent story is here. At least 130 kids have died this way.
Steve, Host
Any thoughts on which is nicer or the better value (fully loaded with Nav & Rear DVD, 2nd Row bucket seats, etc.) ...3 kid's under 9....Thoughts?
-mike
Mike seems to the think that having the sensors is an admission that you can't drive. I think it's an added safety measure since the "longer" ESV version is what I am considering would be helpful. Also I like the fact that when comparing the Yukon Denali XL to the Escalade ESV, the Cadillac has a longer warranty, includes rear seat heaters, three rows of leather, more horsepower on the 6.0, upgraded dash with the (drum-roll) "woodgrain" and "Bvlgari" clock, etc.
I have a similar driveway problem that the above poster (dilbertzzz) mentioned, I live at a dead-end street where I get really close to a fence and flower bed when backing up, the sensors on my ML500 allow me to just watch the display without twisting my neck and raising up out of my seat when backing. I just watch the sensor indicator at the rear of the ceiling which allows for a quicker exit and I'm on my way. (I also look at all three mirrors too)
Mark
Steve, Host
Mark
If I am not mistaken, the 2001 Denalis have a leather 3rd row. They probably changed it in a cost cutting move.
Steve, Host
The Nissan Armada has partial chrome on the rear bumper and all Armadas have standard rear sensors. GM's probably trying to separate the upscale Denali/Escalade from the regular Yukon.
1) To jgmilberg-there is no back-up sensor, maybe it's coming later--it would be nice to have.
2) I'm a little disappointed with the navigation, the new touch screen is nice, but it can't find our house on the street, the house numbers are all wrong.--does anyone know who the map/software provider is for GM? I haven't asked the dealer yet.
http://www.driveultimate.com/GMC/5918_1.html
Does anyone know the paint code for "steel gray"? Looks like my '04 YXL's "Silverbirch" color 59.
Has anyone sen the new Blue-Green Crystal yet? I saw one ay my local dealer yesterday, what a slick looking paint. Deep blue base with a blue/green flake in the clear that just glows in the sunlight! Not sure if it's going to be available on the Denali/XL or not. The one I saw was a Yukon.