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As for wheel balance, now that snow and ice is around, keep in mind you might have some form inside your wheels. It's a good idea to keep the wheels clean and maybe even wax them to prevent ice and slush from sticking on. The problem is temporary because once it melts it's gone.
I'd have taken the $21k and bought a Pilot, too. Congrats.
-juice
this morning I traded in my '02 CR-V and got the PILOT. Sigh
At least I did not betray Honda!
-juice
-juice
I'm assuming you fall in or near that age range, of course.
My dad bought a Subaru after he saw my Forester. He'd always bought Ford products.
-juice
Try tirerack.com. They have consumer submitted feedback ratings on tires, along with detailed manufacturer specifications.
The Dueller H/T's have a poor rating.
Please, respond as this becomes a true aggrevation. ukrkoz@msn.com
WHYLENNY - try to use only Honda key in the ignition, nothing else close. My car will not start if I have the rest of the keys on the same key ring. Also, considering that CRV are built for optimum performance on 86 octane, I will be not surprised if your car is just gas sensitive. I tried Exxon (250 miles), Texaco (250 miles), Chevron (250 miles), but somewhere in between I fueled on some secondhand gas station and it made 280 miles. Can't remember what it was though
Otherwise - you have faulty idle speed unit. Or throttle position sensor. If it does not shake on idle and just dies all at a sudden - oh my, sounds like some elctrical problem and are those hard to find! Good luck! Bet you 5 bucks dealership will not find nothing wrong. Just watch if they will not rig your engine for higher RPMs on idle - it has to be 750.
My car was heavily pulling right untill they cross rotated tires, now it pulls moderately left, so I will just wear 'm to death and replace with michelins or dunlops, as snow and ice are a rare problem in TN/AL.
Oh by the way both shops sold both brand of tires, so no favoratism.
We have an 02 CR-V EX 4WD Auto with 1380 miles. Here is the mileage on the three most recent tanks I have monitored:
22.4 mpg 70% city and 30% highway
23.6 mpg 80% city and 20% highway
23.2 mpg 80% city and 20% highway
Using 87 octane gas and driving moderately. All three tankfulls were from different gas stations.
During the holidays we will be driving from Austin to Flagstaff to Los Angeles and back. I plan on monitoring mileage and performance closely on the trip and will post my MPG's as I have access to the internet.
Reed
1 Fill your tank right to the brim,as full has it will go,no matter how long it takes you at the pumps. I mean till you cannot get one more drop in.
2 Fill at the the same service station,same bay, for a different lean on the car can make a difference.I tried this on our Explorer and from nozzle kickout to completely full could vary as much as 22 litres or 5.8 U.S. gallons. Makes a big difference on a small tank.
Have not tried the new crv yet, to early for that, and still trying to figure out tires!!
JM2C
Wrong! After 5500 miles I consistently find -- and have seen it confirmed on this bulletin board -- that cruising speeds over 65 mph drastically cut into gas mileage. The car does great up to that (24 - 25 mpg), but drops drastically over.
Well, duh, since I travel about 70% highways at 68+ mph, my gas mileage sucks at 21-23 mpg, which is about all it can get with in-town driving, too. I use different brands of lesser-name fuels in it (Raceway, Hess, Phillips 66), same result no matter what. Manual is absolutely no help with this vehicle, and in fact, is not as smooth accelerating or as much fun to drive as is my Suzuki.
Storage is great, riding comfort is great, but 5-spd driving and mileage are real disappointments. May trade this CR-V for automatic drive fuel hybrid if one comes out soon.
SUV's in general are not good choices if fuel economy is first priority. If you need good high speed highway mileage and flexible cargo area/seating, and can trade away ground clearance and seating position, go for a wagon.
In my '99 EX 5 speed I get 24-25 MPG in city driving, and 28+ MPG highway. My record is 30.1 MPG highway doing 65 MPH with A/C off and tires at 30 PSI. Winter driving (I live in Western NY) is 2-3 MPG lower.
YMMV
Tires are a tiny fraction of the overall cost yet make probably the biggest difference in performance (traction, braking, handling, wet tracion, ice/snow traction, etc). Don't be shy about swapping them if you're not happy.
Imagine spending $23 grand and having a bad ownership experience because of $400 worth of tires.
Also keep in mind what might work well for one person may not work for another. OE tires are a compromise, but you can choose a tire for your specific needs.
-juice
Just think of it this way, you can go to your local tire shop and purchase a decent quality pair of chains for 1/2 to 1/3 the price that people sell poor quality chains for at the chain control areas. You likely won't need them but it is cheap insurance that you will beable to get to the ski slopes on time.
One question though, do you put chains on the front or rear of the CRV?
I took a second look at the car window sticker. What a casuistic language! "most of the vehicles are reported to achieve 22 to 30 (!) mpg highway drive, depending on driving style, weather conditions, etc". How many lawyers it took to come up with this? So I am in the bottom "not most" variety.... darn. The reason I am so mad is that I was forced by circumstances to buy a car basically in one morning. Went for durability, quality, and reliability - got a dud. Jokes aside, I like the car. it's just that that gas mileage was one of the main drives. Now I almost drive with left eye on the road and right on the fuel gauge, afraid to do any sudden manuevers or acceleration, and still expecting the blessed 26 miles to a gallon. By the way, I drive alone, 95% highway, and do not carry any luggage, so it's a double whammy.
Re. all the remarks about aerodinamics., etc - who cares? Just tell me honestly - this car makes 21 mpg, I can live with this. Don't tell me to get on top of Mt. Rainier and drive downhill for 5 hours, at 75 degrees and no rain, and without touching the gas pedal to get to that promised mileage.
But I have good knews in all this - at least, thanks to y'all, I know that I did not get a lemon, they just are like this, so I can start enjoying the drive. I like how it drives, I like acceleration, I like comfort, it feels rugged enough for my 6'5'' 275 frame, it has great breaks, very nice stereo - so I'll just start driving it instead of moving from point a to point b. Extra few bucks for gas does not make a whole lotta difference.
Once again - thanks y'all for your response, you all are great, enjoy your cars and drive safely!
Without going back to check details to accuracy, I know that over the same road I've achieve between 26 MPG and 30 MPG just by varying my speed. If I set the cruise control on 75 I get 26 MPG. If I slow down to 65 MPH I get 29+ MPG. A/C on or off only changes mileage by 1-2 MPG.
How fast you drive really does affect your mileage. Trust me on this. Slow down and the numbers will go up. And not just top speed, but accelerate a little slower. I was taught to drive by imagining an egg between my foot and the gas pedal. Try not to break the egg. (But I'm human, so sometimes I just have to have scrambled eggs! )
On the other hand, I've seen lots of posts of people complaining about 18-19 MPG with '97-01 CR-Vs with automatic transmissions. And then I'm not surprised when they admit they just gotta beat every other SUV off the line at green lights, drive 80+ MPH on the freeways, and go through a set of tires in 20k-30k miles.
21 MPG is not unreasonable for some driving styles.
JM2C
Try 32psi in the tires and cruising speeds at 65mph or less, I bet it improves. Good luck.
-juice
there are instructions in the manual on how to reset it yourself.
This car makes 21mpg in some conditions. These conditions include highway cruising in hills and at 80+mph.
This car makes 26+mpg in some conditions. These conditions include highway cruising without many hills at around 55mph.
Also article 9939: real life mpg. - ukrbyk by theracoon, I first thought it was my father writing this article. I cant believe how people do not do a little experimenting once in a while. Yes were driving habits can affect your mileage considerably. My dad use to say that he worked to hard to give the fuel companys and the government more tax money by burning extra fuel. SLOW DOWN, ADD A FEW MORE MINUTES ONTO YOUR TRIP, AND PUT THAT EXTRA MONEY INTO YOUR POCKET.
The other thing the has me puzzled, is since I have found this wonderful site I have heared no one talk about lubricity and cleaning. Maybe, just maybe, is this were our valve problems are coming from? I dont know if I can post names or web sites on here, but we have used a stabalizer for years, and take my word on this. Untill you see the differnce in engines that are using it, I wont even take the time to argue. With low fuel standards our engines need a little help. In any of our vehicles, we have never touched a motor, from the VW's which had up to 300000 kilometers, to the old 81 GMC, which we currently still own(lost track on how many times it tripped the odo, they only went to 100000 back then.)
Highway driving between 55 and 60 mph on backroads --> 29 mpg
Highway driving between 70 and 75 mph on interstate --> 23-24 mpg
Highway driving 80 mph on interstate --> 21-22 mpg
50% highway, 50% town --> 22-25 mpg
This is with a roof rack and with 1 inch larger diameter tires!
Despite of the problems like fuel consumption, cruise range, noise level and lousy tires, etc. I must admit that CRV is still the best choice in its class. Just does not fit my needs well. I blamed myself for not researching throughly and believed naively on the 26 mpg that was printed in the brochure.
250 mile range! Huh? That means you are getting 16 mpg with your CRV.
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If the CRV is getting 22 mpg then your range would be 337 miles.
If the CRV is getting 26 mpg then your range would be 398 miles.
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The gas light comes on too early, I admit that, but I ignore it for a while. I think the CRV could use an additional gear like you said and a bigger tank would be nice also.
Two other things that really bugs me are the terrible blind spots on the side. I won't even go into the blind spot out the back window. Let's just say I won't be parallel parking anytime soon, unless I have one of those guy from the local airport that park the planes behind me. Other than that I like my new CRV.... I think!
I'm getting 28+ MPG at 65 MPH in my '99 EX 5 speed. Consistently and regularly. Best I've ever achieve was just over 30 MPG at 65 MPH.
Can't get more real world that the posted legal limit. And yes, many people drive much faster on the highways that I do, and even argue that they'd get "run over" if they drove slower. My experience differs. I personally have a great aversion to to any professional contact with law enforcement officials. I haven't had a ticket since 1985. No tickets also mean lower insurance rates, which means lower total cost of ownership.
I can live with the 22-23 mpg at 75 mph but not the 250 mi range. Fortunately I already have a solution - I am going to get rid of my 02 CRV after this winter.
You rely too much on the low fuel idiot light. With a 15+ gallon tank your range is over 300 miles, not the 250 you quote. That's 4 hours at 75 MPH. By the time my CR-V is ready for gas I'm more than ready to stretch my legs.
Good luck with whatever you get.
In fact I'd plus one and then some, get maybe 235/60HR16 tires on alloy rims. You could sell your old alloys on E-bay or put snows on them. This is an under $1k investment. Trading in your CR-V will cost you far more.
Get quiet touring tires in that size. That would quiet the ride, plus the larger diameter means the engine would turn slightly lower revs, making it more quiet and maybe helping range a little (your speedo will be off slightly, but most are off to begin with).
Plus it would look cool. Fill up those wheel wells.
Another polite suggestion to both of you: try a longer test drive next time. If you spent 13 years in your van (wow!), I'm sure half hour on a test drive isn't too much. Check blind spots and road noise on the type of roads you'll be likely to encounter.
-juice
I also take long highway trips. For example, a trip to Cooperstown this weekend for a CR-V rally. On these trips, I typically get between 25 and 28 mpg. Even with the car loaded with five adults and camping gear, I've gotten 23-26 mpg.
My range is about 320-350 miles to each tank. Fuel economy drops in Winter months. The cold weather, longer start-ups, and changes in gas lower averages about 2 mpg.
-juice