If the UK versionhas a 2.0 engine pumping out 154 HP, then the US 2.4 powerplant should have substantially more power, right? The picture series in the British magazine is the same as the one that appeared in US Automotive News. Look at the scenery- definitely the US Southwest. The caption in the US publication mentions the Southwest. The vehicle in all the pix is the US version, and thats why its able to pull the trailer you see- 2.4 engine- more torque and more HP. Also, look at the seating position of the driver and passenger,they are seated ahead of the B-pillar. In the current CRV, any normal height male has to sit with his head next to the B-pillar. This tells me that the New CRV has a longer wheelbase, that allows the front seat occupants more legroom.
Shellymeister - I noticed the seating position, too. While I agree that the wheelbase does look a bit longer, there may be another explanation. The new i-VTEC engines are smaller than the previous 2.0 and the Mac strut design allows for more space up front. Someone over at the CR-V IX also posted a side by side photo of the new and current CR-V and I noticed that the hood is higher in the new model.
Anyway, the extra room we are seeing may come from the fact that the car has a more cab-forward design, rather than a longer wheelbase. Just a thought.
I can definitely see an increase in width and length. And just by looking at how much longer it actually is compared to the current model, there might just be a small 3rd row. If looks and engine performance doesn't sell, I think the hidden 3rd row would be the new CR-V's winning trump card. I'm predicting that it will probably be the size of a Santa Fe.
Nope, there won't be a 3rd row. The CR-V will most likely remain Honda's small SUV. A larger Honda SUV, replacement for the current rebadge Isuzu Rodeo/Honda Passport, will be based on the Acura MDX. It will basically be a decontented version of the MDX, and will have the 3rd row.
Keep in mind that the spy pictures show a pre-production vehicle with the obligatory black canvas/fibreglass mockup/covers, so certain elements may not be what they seem to be. The look is pretty typical of an revolutionary Honda design though. Nothing shocking...
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I was looking at the sketch and latest photo. There appears to be a body gap between the roof and the metal strip the window hinges are mounted. Anyone else see this? or I'm seeing things.
If there is a gap,it could only mean the flip out window is integrated into the side opening tailgate. That would be convenient,no more two step operation.
Oh, I also noticed a foot parking brake (X-ray vision here), no more hand levers to interfere with walk through/console.
Is the hand brake easy to use with the standard tranny? Do you use it at all, or is it too low to be used constantly? A foot parking brake will require some tricky pedal work with a manual tranny :-)
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if these are UK version CR-V's why is the driver on the left side??
varmint: they don't even let you look up the stairs from the showroom in aoyama honda care center. this is where every honda (including bikes) is on display and when i asked if i could take an elevator up to see more, they said that i had to leave immedeately. but you do get a chance to talk to AZIMO (in japanese only) actually azimo is in many family oriented comercials (stepWGN, stream)
Diploid - Yes, it does look "porkier"! I hope the actual weight isn't as much as the Santa Fe. 154 hp moving 3,800 lbs would be slower than a tax refund.
Drew - The current floor-mounted brake is easy to use, though a bit low for some folks. When stopped on hills, I use a foot technique similar to the cha-cha rather than the hand brake. :-)
My Acura TL uses a foot brake. It's one of the reasons why I was suprized to read that they are adding a manual option.
I just looked at an ad in the newspaper for a 2001 Honda CR-V SE model- the dimensions look *exactly* like those of the "prototype." Even the flares on the wheel arches are the same.
I don't know anymore. Honda should just spill the beans, already.
Shellymeister - Go here CR-V Information Xchange and register for a password to the forum. You may need to e-mail Bing for one. Before you enter, you must also learn the meaning of GoongalaGoonga.
The August 27 issue of Automotive News will cover future products from Asian makes, so expect to read all about the CR-V in that issue. Until then, hopefully we'll get a few more sneak peaks.
As soon as your boss unlocks his office, come in with an empty box that's been gift wrapped and hand it to him. By the time he's done wondering what the hell your problem is, his possession will now be yours.
I can comment on the similarities between the two models as my college roomate is an engineer at the East Liberty Civic plant.
The 2001 (Or whatever year proceeds a new model) is called "The mini-major model change Year" or M3C.
So, there are/will be a lot of similarities in parts on the 2001 and 2002. Honda does this intentaionally within its tooling and supply program so that it doesn't run out of a part or piece that could stop production (ala the Escape and Liberty.) Second, this is done so that Honda doesn't have to shut down a plant down four to six weeks for retoolingt. Honda usually retools in about a week. I think it took 5 days when the Civic changed last year. In addition, this system also allows Honda to systematically check these parts out so that they meet rigid QA standards.
The rule of thumb at Honda is to buy a car during the M3C year so that you can have the latest engineering and options that will carry over.
There are plenty of trade offs, though. Obviously, you're getting a dated basic design, and one whose resale probably will suffer due to the new one becoming available.
A high quality manufacturer like Honda isn't going to put out another Escape fiasco, anyway.
I bought a CR-V LX 4WD in late June and I'm planning to install Brush/Grille guards. Aside from making the CR-V look a lot better, do the guards offer any significant protection in an event of a collision?
Also, which make would you recommend and where can I purchase them online or in the NYC area? Currently, I'm leaning towards the ones made by Waag.
And one last thing, since the internal EZ-Pass doesn't work with the '01 CR-V, I have installed the external EZ-Pass unit. It is and had to be mounted on the top portion of the license plate. It's not a terrific position for mounting such a fragile piece of equipment considering that it exposed with no protection from the front bumper. Would installing the guard interfere with the reading on the pass?
Scottdude - If looks are your most important criteria, then go ahead. You may be missing out on a better engine, better emissions, better fuel economy, or better safety, though. While a spy pic is worth a thousand words, a production model is worth a thousand spy pics. (howzat for a laughable attempt at wisdom?) :-)
Weasel - Welcome to the zoo. Between you, me, and the racoon, we should have enough furry critters to form a secret society.
Try any of the links posted on the Accessories and Modifications page. I've never used an ez-pass, so you're on your own there. Maybe Recs (another Nu Yawkah) can answer that one? For more on the different brushguards, try this link.
Can you clarify what an "EZ-Pass" is? In Houston, we have an "EZ-Tag" system that lets you roll through toll plazas. The tag itself is a beige device a little larger than a credit card that sticks to the inside of the windshield. Am I talking about the same thing?
I've never heard of any incompatibilities between the Tag and any specific vehicle. Works fine on my '00 CR-V. . . .
"And one last thing, since the internal EZ-Pass doesn't work with the '01 CR-V"
I have an internal EZ-Pass, and it works fine. I tried it along GWB in NY and GSPWY in NJ. Mine is positioned about 2" lower than the rear view mirror.
I have a 2001 cr-v SE, and have no problem with ez-pass. they only cars that have problems with ez-pass are the ones that have heated windshield (there are actually sprayed with thin layer of metal) I have mine right behind the mirror, and it works at 30 mph going through the booth. where abouts in nyc are you weasel? i am from the bronx
When I registered for EZ-Pass, the Honda CR-V 2001 was one of the vehicles listed that required the external tag. You got to love the EZ-Pass web site and customer support, which leads back to the web site. There was a newer list out there but that page is down. I'm going to verify again. I would love to use the internal tag.
I currently live in Queens but in two weeks, I'll be starting college at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore.
I'm going to also have to install the security system but I have the service manual so in theory, my dad and I should be able to take the car apart and put it back together....
If you are going to be in Baltimore, then you'll have to come to the next Mid Atlantic CR-V Meet. We had about 24-25 CR-Vs at this year's event. Would've had more, but some folks had to cancel. It's a great way to see modifications up close, get ideas for your next project, meet silly people, and win free stuff.
If these photos were taken in the last week, then Honda wanted them photographed. Given, my knowledge of auto production could fit in a thimble, but why would a manufacturer ve testing a mere three months before ljust launch and four weeks before production begins? Just curious...
Also, does it concern anyone that the third windo, just past the C pillar is considerably smaller than the current version? Also, I don't see a rear wiper, but those may not be present on these mules. Finally, that suspension looks an awful lot like the current civic rear suspension.
I think these photos are showing a very boxy vehicle, more wagon-like than anything else. Perhaps Honda is designing it this way so that when the Honda-MDX is released in two years, it does not cannibalize sales.
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Do you honestly think they'd take me seriously? Now... maybe if I flew 1st class... ;-)
The picture series in the British magazine is the same as the one that appeared in US Automotive News. Look at the scenery- definitely the US Southwest. The caption in the US publication mentions the Southwest. The vehicle in all the pix is the US version, and thats why its able to pull the trailer you see- 2.4 engine- more torque and more HP.
Also, look at the seating position of the driver and passenger,they are seated ahead of the B-pillar. In the current CRV, any normal height male has to sit with his head next to the B-pillar. This tells me that the New CRV has a longer wheelbase, that allows the front seat occupants more legroom.
Anyway, the extra room we are seeing may come from the fact that the car has a more cab-forward design, rather than a longer wheelbase. Just a thought.
Keep in mind that the spy pictures show a pre-production vehicle with the obligatory black canvas/fibreglass mockup/covers, so certain elements may not be what they seem to be. The look is pretty typical of an revolutionary Honda design though. Nothing shocking...
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Anyone else see this? or I'm seeing things.
If there is a gap,it could only mean the flip out window is integrated into the side opening tailgate. That would be convenient,no more two step operation.
Oh, I also noticed a foot parking brake (X-ray vision here), no more hand levers to interfere with walk through/console.
Drew
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varmint: they don't even let you look up the stairs from the showroom in aoyama honda care center. this is where every honda (including bikes) is on display and when i asked if i could take an elevator up to see more, they said that i had to leave immedeately. but you do get a chance to talk to AZIMO (in japanese only) actually azimo is in many family oriented comercials (stepWGN, stream)
Drew - The current floor-mounted brake is easy to use, though a bit low for some folks. When stopped on hills, I use a foot technique similar to the cha-cha rather than the hand brake. :-)
My Acura TL uses a foot brake. It's one of the reasons why I was suprized to read that they are adding a manual option.
Oh, and the pics are from N. America. The magazine is published in the UK.
TL manual? Yummy.
-juice
I don't know anymore. Honda should just spill the beans, already.
-juice
;-)
We get a copy here at work, but it circulates to 3 people, so I have to vigilent of that inbox.
-juice
Yes, I'm a car nut.
-juice
The 2001 (Or whatever year proceeds a new model) is called "The mini-major model change Year" or M3C.
So, there are/will be a lot of similarities in parts on the 2001 and 2002. Honda does this intentaionally within its tooling and supply program so that it doesn't run out of a part or piece that could stop production (ala the Escape and Liberty.) Second, this is done so that Honda doesn't have to shut down a plant down four to six weeks for retoolingt. Honda usually retools in about a week. I think it took 5 days when the Civic changed last year. In addition, this system also allows Honda to systematically check these parts out so that they meet rigid QA standards.
The rule of thumb at Honda is to buy a car during the M3C year so that you can have the latest engineering and options that will carry over.
A high quality manufacturer like Honda isn't going to put out another Escape fiasco, anyway.
-juice
I bought a CR-V LX 4WD in late June and I'm planning to install Brush/Grille guards.
Aside from making the CR-V look a lot better, do the guards offer any significant protection in an event of a collision?
Also, which make would you recommend and where can I purchase them online or in the NYC area?
Currently, I'm leaning towards the ones made by Waag.
And one last thing, since the internal EZ-Pass doesn't work with the '01 CR-V, I have installed the external EZ-Pass unit. It is and had to be mounted on the top portion of the license plate. It's not a terrific position for mounting such a fragile piece of equipment considering that it exposed with no protection from the front bumper. Would installing the guard interfere with the reading on the pass?
thanks,
WeaselGX
Weasel - Welcome to the zoo. Between you, me, and the racoon, we should have enough furry critters to form a secret society.
Try any of the links posted on the Accessories and Modifications page. I've never used an ez-pass, so you're on your own there. Maybe Recs (another Nu Yawkah) can answer that one? For more on the different brushguards, try this link.
Though, I think a spoonerism is something different.
I've never heard of any incompatibilities between the Tag and any specific vehicle. Works fine on my '00 CR-V. . . .
I have an internal EZ-Pass, and it works fine. I tried it along GWB in NY and GSPWY in NJ. Mine is positioned about 2" lower than the rear view mirror.
some internal EZ-Pass will not work on certain types of vehicles. i think it has to do with the tag location relative to the toll booth scanner.
The windshield on the CR-V is your basic laminated glass, nothing out of the ordinary.
-juice
where abouts in nyc are you weasel?
i am from the bronx
When I registered for EZ-Pass, the Honda CR-V 2001 was one of the vehicles listed that required the external tag. You got to love the EZ-Pass web site and customer support, which leads back to the web site. There was a newer list out there but that page is down. I'm going to verify again. I would love to use the internal tag.
I currently live in Queens but in two weeks, I'll be starting college at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore.
As for the brush guard, I think I am going to order the Waag 3 piece modular brush guard from urbanjunglesuv.com ( http://www.urbanjunglesuv.com/waag_brush_guards_honda_crv_urban_jungle.htm )
It's $399 with free shipping.
This seems to be the lowest overall cost.
I'm going to also have to install the security system but I have the service manual so in theory, my dad and I should be able to take the car apart and put it back together....
thanks for the help,
WeaselGX
People seem to like rodent nicknames
If you are going to be in Baltimore, then you'll have to come to the next Mid Atlantic CR-V Meet. We had about 24-25 CR-Vs at this year's event. Would've had more, but some folks had to cancel. It's a great way to see modifications up close, get ideas for your next project, meet silly people, and win free stuff.
Good luck with the EZ-pass.
http://www.4car.co.uk/jsp/main.jsp?lnk=240&storyid=1076
This article has 2 photos, one new one showing a better view of the rear.
But who knows if the Brit specs will be the same as the US specs?
Enjoy.
ejp
Yachtie.
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Where is the rear wiper?
Did you notice the Black 2002 CRV next to the silver one?
Also, does it concern anyone that the third windo, just past the C pillar is considerably smaller than the current version? Also, I don't see a rear wiper, but those may not be present on these mules. Finally, that suspension looks an awful lot like the current civic rear suspension.
I think these photos are showing a very boxy vehicle, more wagon-like than anything else. Perhaps Honda is designing it this way so that when the Honda-MDX is released in two years, it does not cannibalize sales.