I just tested a Honda 2000 CR-V SE last night. Love it! There does happen to be a 2000 EX leftover that had added to it a moonroof (waiting to hear if it's under warranty since it was not factory installed)and leather. Leather was not manufacuter's leather. It was sweet. The seats even had a bit of shape to them that could easily be confused with lumbar support, unheard of in the CR-V. I wish I could find TMV on the 2001 SE in order to make a comparison. It beats the Escape and takes the Xterra out of the running for me.
Hyundai sure has come a long way since Excel of '86. Quality, refinement and reliability has improved dramatically also. BUT, I wouldn't invest $20K in a car with less than stellar reliability and horrendous resale value. For example, Accord holds about 50% of value after 4 years.... Sonata holds only 27%. Santa Fe will be no different, it's a Hyundai, so the resale will reflect it.
Honda has never been mistaken for high quality. My '95 Integra and '98 CR-V look very cheap in certain ways. I've read somewhere that American manufacturers use more expensive, higher quality parts than their Japanese counterparts. But, American cars have poor reliability and refinement from shoddy designs and assembly, while Japanese have great reliability and refinement from high quality control and excellent designs.... but do not last as long as the American cars.
I like the fact that Hyundai offers the best warranty in the world, plus free road side service. But, I will not pay MSRP for Santa Fe, which dealers will inevitably charge. If one can purchase one for MUCH less than a comparable CR-V, I'd definately recommend a look.
I CURRENTLY OWN A 1999 CR-V EX 5spd AND HAVE ABOUT 22,000 MILES ON IT AND FOR SOMETIME NOW I HAVE BEEN HAVING PROBLEMS. I NOTICED THAT THE BLOWER DOESN'T BLOW AS HARD AS IT USED TO. WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT IT WIIL BLOW HARD FOR A WHILE AND THEN DIE DOWN AND BLOW LIKE ITS BARELY ON. ANOTHER THING IS THAT IT DOESN'T BLOW COLD ALL THE TIME, SOMETIMES IT WILL BLOW ICE COLD THEN RIGHT AFTER THAT IT DIES DOWN LIKE THE VENT IS THE ONLY THING ON. THERE IS ALSO TIMES THAT THIS HAPPENS ALL AT ONCE OR JUST THE BLOWER DOES'T BLOW HARD OR IT BLOWS HARD AND NOT COLD. I ALSO OWN A 1996 PRELUDE VTEC AND IT HAD AC PROBLEMS, THE SEAL ON THE COMPRESSOR BLEW AT 38,000 MILES AND THE SERVICE MNGR AT THE TIME TOLD ME THAT THERE WASN'T ENOUGH OIL ON IT FROM THE FACTORY AND THAT'S WHY IT BLEW. BEFORE THAT I ALSO OWNED A 93 PRELUDE S' AND THAT HAD ALL KINDS OF AC PROBLEMS BUT THAT WASN'T UNTIL ABOUT 73,000 MILES WHEN I SOLD IT. IT'S JUST WHEN I HAVE THE BLOWER ON FULL BLAST IT FEELS LIKE IT'S BARELY ON. THE LAST TIME I WAS IN WITH MY PRELUDE I ASKED IF THEY HAD RECALLED THERE CARS BECAUSE OF A/C PROBLEMS AND THE SERVICE MNGR SAID NO. THESE ARE THE ONLY PROBLEMS I'VE HAD CAME ACROSS WITH. HAS ANYONE ELSE HAD THESE PROBLEM'S I JUST WANT TO KNOW SO WHEN I DO GO IN TO HAVE CHECKED I KNOW IF THERE ARE BLOWING SMOKE OR NOT.
I have a 5 month old 2000 CRV-EX.I've notice recently that when in stop and go traffic for 10 minutes with the air conditioner that my temperature guage shoots 85% of the way up to the top. Does anybody find that their vehicles run hot? It's typical South Florida winter weather in the mid to high 70's.
I'm no expert, but it sounds as if the evaporator core is freezing on your CRV. The fin sensor (aka thermistor probe) needs to be replaced. I'm not a mechanic, and this is not a professional diagnosis. Please see your nearest A/C professional soon as it is not good to run your A/C in this manner for a long period of time.
I just got my CR-V SE last month. I had one question: The CR-V I got has 'Rear Privacy Glass'. Are the glassed built tinted or do they have some sort of tinted film on top?
I'm planning on putting on Front Splash Guards, Wheel locks and a nosemask on my Honda CRV. I'm getting these from the same Honda dealer where I bought my CRV. I just had two questions: 1. Do I need to get my wheels balanced after putting on the new wheel locks. From what my limited knowledge is; that matters only if there is a change of weight near the edges. BUT I'm not sure. 2. Would keeping the nosemask on permanently have a drastice effect on the Cd coefficent i.e. the drag? Does it effect the paint, etc. in anyway?
By the way, bought my CRV last month and sure am glad that I bought this instead of RAV4. Love driving it.
"Do I need to get my wheels balanced after putting on the new wheel locks."
Unless they ballance the wheels on the car (not sure if there is anyone that does it that way) It wouldn't do anything getting them reballanced since off the car wouldn't have the lock nuts on it.
After going through posts about this here, I tried pulling the front seats all the way to the front and then picking up the lever of the rear seat and pushing their bottom part as far as possible. Also pushed the backs of the rear seats all the way back. Then pushed back the back of the front seats (after removing the headrests obviously). It did become like a bed. My only question is the the back of the front seats is slightly raised and not at the same level as the bottom of the rear seats. Is this okay or am I doing something wrong here.
Not sure what the procedure is for the CRV, but I had wheel locks on another vehicle and the maker of wheel locks recommended that a 0.5 ounce wheel weight be installed on the inside edge of each wheel opposite the position that the locking lug nut is used on. Hope this makes sense.
I would follow the wheel lock manufacturer's instructions.
I have the ford Escape and the Honda CRV in my mind. However, I am not sure to buy which one. I like the Escape because it has good handling; but love the reliability of Honda. Can anyone can give me some advise?
In my '99 EX Auto - RPMs at speed: 55mph = 2200rpm 60mph = 2400rpm 65mph = 2600rpm 70mph = 2800rpm All figuresare approximate
Wheel locks and other accessories. First, check the price for these accessories from Hpart.com or partscheap.comand see if your dealer will match the prices. As far as balancing, no such recommendation from Honda with the OEM locks. As trevor pointed out, the locks or lugs aren't on the wheel when they balance anyway.
When I "made the bed" I too noticed a slight height difference from the front to back. No gap between the two, but the front was higher.
Escape? I'd wait at least a year before the bugs are even close to being worked out of that puppy to even consider it. 7 recalls and running (sic). My CR-V has 20,000 totally trouble free miles. Go with your gut feeling.
I've had my 2001 CR-V SE for almost two weeks now. I love it so far... I've gotten used to the higher seating position compared to my Civic, and the acceleration and handling are actually better than I expected. Only problem is that the front passenger-side interior door panel rattles on occasion. On a given drive, it's quiet until I hit a small bump, then it rattles upon acceleration and sometimes even at idle. I'll probably have the dealer check it out at its first scheduled service. Otherwise, no problems so far! Looking forward to seeing how it handles a Chicago winter.
What has been others experience? I have a 99 CRV. I am disappointed how the cruise control seems to ignore a lot of my commands (up or down bumps of 1 mph).
I had read Dan Leaseman's info on the CRV Information Exchanage about adding a vaccuum cannister to give better cruise performance on hills. I put one on recently and believe he modified an older CRV because maybe it had no vacuum cannister at all. With 2 cannisters, it still ignores many of my speed adjustments. It ignores me on flat roads.
I am use to other cars that will store up 3 or 4 bumps to speed up or slow down 3 or 4 miles per hour.
For those not knowing what a vacuum cannister is, it is a plastic box that is hooked to the vacuum line. This gives your cruise control continuous vacuum from a stored up reserve even if the car is temporarily not producing vacuum.
Honda folks seem to have some great need to babble about how their cars hold their resale value. You still lose a bunch of money, not sure what the point is. A car is not an investment.
True, most cars aren't an investment..... except for PT Cruiser, S2000, Z8, M5 and a handful of other very popular cars, which sell at thousands over MSRP.
Regardless of depreciations, cars are an investment nonetheless. Most people do not drive their cars forever (like me) and trade them in frequently. I've had 5 new cars since 1990! When u trade in frequently, it's good to have a popular car with a high resale value. It could mean a difference of several thousand $$, which definately helps lessen the cost of the new car. Try trading in a Hyundai and a Honda.... the only thing similar are the emblems!
This is an update on my 2000 CRV SE. I have had this vehicle for 4 months, 22 days and 12,500 miles. This is my first honda and am totally inlove. I think this is the best vehicle for the money. Everyone that gets into my car simply loves it. My father who has bought only american cars is even contimplating a honda for himself. I have a few thing that I would like some feedback from the group on. * How is your gas millage ( mine is about 25-27 miles per gallon) * back before someone said there was a euro-spec cover does anyone have the part # or has installed this on their vehicle *I like the CD and Cassette in the SE and it sounds good with the cd playing or the radio but sometimes it will get alittle more static then I am used to. Is this normal I have been told that it has. Only happens sometimes but when it does it can be annoying. I am also thinking that it is the way the cd antenna is placed. * do you know if honda has a carmo mat that goes over the whole cargo area (and up the sides alittle) Things that I would like to see in the next generation CRV. *A little more power for going up those really big hills. (but it has good power now) *maybe an Acura version or if not a acura version then I would like to see some features added to the se. Power Seat, A moonroof, heated seats. maybe a option for a center councal with storage. *Firepepper red as a color choice (I think it would look good what do you think)Also I think that the Black currant that was on the accord till 99 would be a good choice
If Isellhondas and anyone elese could comment on this long post I would appreciate it
all depends on the car. Most new cars are not investments, but older, collectable cars are. Case in point, a friend of mine has a '76 Trans Am that he paid $6500 for ten years ago. Today it is worth over $13000. Sounds like an investment to me.
To me, my CR-V is not an investment, just reliable transportation for my family.
This is the first time on here, so I hope I am doing it right. 8300 miles in 3 months is OK, but I have only had my new CR-V for 5 WEEKS!, and I already have 5600 miles on it!! (I am an outside sales rep and I am in me car all day long.) I LOVE my new CR-V. I bought another Honda even though I was disappointed with the '89 Accord I traded in - it only had 285,000 miles on it. (Ha Ha) I love this site and love reading everyone's comments.
I bought a 2000 5-speed Honda CRV EX two months ago.In general I like the car very much but I have encountered some problems when there is a traffic jam. When shifting from 1st to 2nd gear is done many times in a traffic jam, I have encountered situation where I cannot shift from 1st to 2nd. Today, the problem got worse, not only I could not shift, but the engine started to smell like something is burning. I stopped the car and opened the hood but see no smoke. After the engine cooled down, I was able to drive it again. Did anyone encounter similar situation? Pointers and info appreaciated.
How much did they give you for your '89 (or were just kidding)? My '89 Accord has almost half the miles yours did, so I guess it's just a baby. We just bought a V6 Accord because my fiance wouldn't consider a 4 cylinder (it was tough enough getting her to drive a Honda, she has yet to be enlightened). She's also in sales and insisted on having a V6. I'm holding out for the redesigned CR-V next year (4 cylinder is ok for me).
I got $500 for my '89 Accord, and I was glad to get it. I live in central Texas, so I figure it is a taxi cab in Mexico by now. (The dealer said they would just take it to the auction and sell it.)Yes, it had 285,000 miles on it and it had the original clutch and the original struts on it. My goal was to get 300,000 on it, but it got to a point where I did not feel secure being out on the road 6 hours from home. My new CR-v is the EX with a 5 speed, and I love it.
What should I do. I can get a 2000 SE Limited CRV for $20,800 w/400 miles (white) or a new 2001 for $22.300 (gold). I really like the white but what do you think is the better deal. I need to know by Saturday.
A car can be picked that can appreciate or amintain its value. My '96 Impala falls into that category. I have a '98 CRV and that Santa Fe looks pretty fine. More power, luxury, features, etc. Everything, even the warranty, looks better! Also, Hyundai has improved a lot in JD Powers. But, then I went over to the edmunds used car site and looked up resale of the Sonata that it is based on. Oh my God! I don't think there is a car with worse resale (Kia maybe?). I am sure the Santa Fe is a great SUV, maybe as good as the CRV. But,I don't plan on taking it to the grave and to have something that can plop so much in value belies its low new price. In all fairness, they are in demand, commanding list or more.As for the CRV,my dealer mechanic claims it's Hondas most trouble free car ever and less than ten have come back for problems! Also, it's resale value is probably the highes in the industry. I gues when gas is $1.80 a gallon, a AWD SUV that can get 25mpg is in demand.
NO MATTER WHAT YEAR THE CAR YOU PURCHASE IT IS AN INVESTMENT. IT WILL BE THE 2ND MOST IMPORTANT INVESTMENT YOU WILL MAKE OTHER THAN BUYING A HOUSE. EXAMPLE YOU TAKE A ANY PONTIAC SUNFIRE AND COMPARE IT TO A CIVIC THAT HAS ABOUT THE SAME OPTIONS AND THE TIME COMES TO GET TO SELL IT YOU WILL OWE MORE ON THE SUNFIRE THAN WHAT IT'S ACTUALLY WORTH. YOU WANT TO INVEST YOUR MONEY ON THE CAR THAT WILL GIVE YOU THE MOST NOT ONLY FOR YOUR MONEY, BUT IT WILL GIVE YOU BACK IN RETURN WHEN YOU SELL IT.
No, you're not doing anything wrong. The back of the back seats do not go all the way flat. When camping, I just pull the car up on any slight incline to compensate for the seats. Even if you can't find an incline, you'll sleep fine!
An investment is an expenditure of money with an expectation of it appreciating. Even the guys who claim that their muscle cars from the 60's have appreciated are neglecting expensese like maintenance and insurance. Calling a car an "investment" is a common ploy of salespeople.A house is an investment, a car is an expenditure. Along with gas, insurance, and maintainance, deprecation is factored in to arrive at an accurate estimation of cost. I could go on and on and boast about how my Impala SS has kept its value, but without adding those other factors, it is a pretty shrill argument. If one was inclined, one could come up with a rough figure of how much a CRV costs vs a Hyundai Santa Fe. My guess would be that the CRV would be slightly cheaper on gas, a little cheaper on tires ('cause they are smaller), but would cost a lot less on depreciation.I paid $20,500 for my '98 CRV EX auto. I think I could sell it for $17,000. My guess would be that, if the Santa Fe was sold for the same amount in '98, it would be worth around $13,000, basing this on what I have seen used Sonatas selling for. So, the although the Hyundai is better equipped, larger,more powerful, and comparably priced, the depreciation will bite you big time after just a few years. Factor that in and you decide. Hey, a Suburban has decent resell, but will kill you with gas bills. You take it all in and decide for yourself. I personally hope that the Hyundai Santa Fe is an excellent suv that takes away sales from Honda. Doing this can only make Honda make a better product, and we all can benefit from that.
I recently test drove a new 2000 Honda CRV EX 5-speed. While it rides pretty nice, I was surprised to hear so much road noise coming into the cabin, and also hearing the 4 cly. gears sounding so loud too. Im sure the Honda quality is there, but shouldnt we expect a little more sound dampening out of a 20K vehicle??? Im pretty sure my $4000 1995 Mazda truck is quieter than that. So whats more impressive, the Honda CRV or $20,000 still in your hand? Not a convinced buyer (yet), maybe all the 20K vehicles sound loud.
I buy a car to be driven. To take me to work, around town, vacations and other places. I have to have it simply because it's a necessity. Since we spend so much time in them, I try to get a nice looking car with a good ride, a nice stereo, comfortable interior, a safe car and most important; RELIABLE (that is why I get a Honda). I keep them until the warranty runs out, then go get another. I'm not into keeping cars for 8 or 10 years. No matter what kind of car you have, if you keep it too long you will spend big bucks fixing it or just keeping it in proper working order. Plus, lets face it, after a few years I'm itching to drive something different. To me, life is too short to drive the same thing for 10-years. Investment...heck no! Just like a roof over my head, a car is simply a necessity.
Hi, everyone, I'm new in this forum. Just purchased a 2001 CR-V EX, love it. I received my plate today, and tried to put it on the rear door. For some reason, I didn't see screws there. Can anyone give me any idea about if Honda provides them, or we should purchase ourselves. Thanks.
Whomever said that there's maintenance costs, gas, etc associated with a car: The same holds true for a house. Sure, the value of your house goes up (assuming you maintain it properly). However, there's the interest on the loan, the electricity, gas, etc for utilities, property tax, the 6% fee to the agent to sell your house, etc. What do they say? A $150k house over 30 years will cost you a total of around $350k with the interest (just a guess)?
Maybe what people should say about cars being an investment, they mean that they want to minimize their losses (ie. maintain a decent resale value, low maintenance, etc) on their car?
Houses almost always go up. Also, interest is deductible, whereas interest on a car isn't. My parents paid $55K for their two story 3400' house in southern CA 30 years ago and now it is worth around $400. Interest costs? Heck, they save a lot in taxes!
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the CRV, (or any Honda), after 150,000 Miles!
Hyundai sure has come a long way since Excel of '86. Quality, refinement and reliability has improved dramatically also. BUT, I wouldn't invest $20K in a car with less than stellar reliability and horrendous resale value. For example, Accord holds about 50% of value after 4 years.... Sonata holds only 27%. Santa Fe will be no different, it's a Hyundai, so the resale will reflect it.
Honda has never been mistaken for high quality. My '95 Integra and '98 CR-V look very cheap in certain ways. I've read somewhere that American manufacturers use more expensive, higher quality parts than their Japanese counterparts. But, American cars have poor reliability and refinement from shoddy designs and assembly, while Japanese have great reliability and refinement from high quality control and excellent designs.... but do not last as long as the American cars.
I like the fact that Hyundai offers the best warranty in the world, plus free road side service. But, I will not pay MSRP for Santa Fe, which dealers will inevitably charge. If one can purchase one for MUCH less than a comparable CR-V, I'd definately recommend a look.
THANKS
Then find out what it's worth in a few years!
These wonderful filters trap most of the dust, pollen and other particulate matter.
However, they need to be changed every 30,000 miles by a dealer. If they plug up they will greatly restrict the air flow.
Just like your furnace at home!
I just got my CR-V SE last month. I had one question: The CR-V I got has 'Rear Privacy Glass'. Are the glassed built tinted or do they have some sort of tinted film on top?
Regards,
Raj
You can tell which is which by looking at one of the rear pass windows and rolling it down. If it is film you will see the edge of it.
I'll have to check my rpm's on the way home.
I'm planning on putting on Front Splash Guards, Wheel locks and a nosemask on my Honda CRV. I'm getting these from the same Honda dealer where I bought my CRV. I just had two questions:
1. Do I need to get my wheels balanced after putting on the new wheel locks. From what my limited knowledge is; that matters only if there is a change of weight near the edges. BUT I'm not sure.
2. Would keeping the nosemask on permanently have a drastice effect on the Cd coefficent i.e. the drag? Does it effect the paint, etc. in anyway?
By the way, bought my CRV last month and sure am glad that I bought this instead of RAV4. Love driving it.
Regards,
putting on the new wheel locks."
Unless they ballance the wheels on the car (not sure if there is anyone that does it that way) It wouldn't do anything getting them reballanced since off the car wouldn't have the lock nuts on it.
-Trevor
www.honda-accessories.com
After going through posts about this here, I tried
pulling the front seats all the way to the front
and then picking up the lever of the rear seat and pushing their bottom part as far as possible.
Also pushed the backs of the rear seats all the way
back. Then pushed back the back of the front seats
(after removing the headrests obviously). It did
become like a bed. My only question is the the back
of the front seats is slightly raised and not at
the same level as the bottom of the rear seats. Is
this okay or am I doing something wrong here.
I would follow the wheel lock manufacturer's instructions.
In my '99 EX Auto - RPMs at speed:
55mph = 2200rpm
60mph = 2400rpm
65mph = 2600rpm
70mph = 2800rpm
All figuresare approximate
Wheel locks and other accessories.
First, check the price for these accessories from Hpart.com or partscheap.comand see if your dealer will match the prices.
As far as balancing, no such recommendation from Honda with the OEM locks. As trevor pointed out, the locks or lugs aren't on the wheel when they balance anyway.
When I "made the bed" I too noticed a slight height difference from the front to back. No gap between the two, but the front was higher.
Escape? I'd wait at least a year before the bugs are even close to being worked out of that puppy to even consider it. 7 recalls and running (sic). My CR-V has 20,000 totally trouble free miles. Go with your gut feeling.
I had read Dan Leaseman's info on the CRV Information Exchanage about adding a vaccuum cannister to give better cruise performance on hills. I put one on recently and believe he modified an older CRV because maybe it had no vacuum cannister at all. With 2 cannisters, it still ignores many of my speed adjustments. It ignores me on flat roads.
I am use to other cars that will store up 3 or 4 bumps to speed up or slow down 3 or 4 miles per hour.
For those not knowing what a vacuum cannister is, it is a plastic box that is hooked to the vacuum line. This gives your cruise control continuous vacuum from a stored up reserve even if the car is temporarily not producing vacuum.
Unless you remove it often (a PITA) to clean under it, it will RUIN your paint!
Dirt will get under it and abrade the paint!
-Beanboy
Soobie wanna-be
True, most cars aren't an investment..... except for PT Cruiser, S2000, Z8, M5 and a handful of other very popular cars, which sell at thousands over MSRP.
Regardless of depreciations, cars are an investment nonetheless. Most people do not drive their cars forever (like me) and trade them in frequently. I've had 5 new cars since 1990! When u trade in frequently, it's good to have a popular car with a high resale value. It could mean a difference of several thousand $$, which definately helps lessen the cost of the new car. Try trading in a Hyundai and a Honda.... the only thing similar are the emblems!
* How is your gas millage ( mine is about 25-27 miles per gallon)
* back before someone said there was a euro-spec cover does anyone have the part # or has installed this on their vehicle
*I like the CD and Cassette in the SE and it sounds good with the cd playing or the radio but sometimes it will get alittle more static then I am used to. Is this normal I have been told that it has. Only happens sometimes but when it does it can be annoying. I am also thinking that it is the way the cd antenna is placed.
* do you know if honda has a carmo mat that goes over the whole cargo area (and up the sides alittle)
Things that I would like to see in the next generation CRV.
*A little more power for going up those really big hills. (but it has good power now)
*maybe an Acura version or if not a acura version then I would like to see some features added to the se. Power Seat, A moonroof, heated seats. maybe a option for a center councal with storage.
*Firepepper red as a color choice (I think it would look good what do you think)Also I think that the Black currant that was on the accord till 99 would be a good choice
If Isellhondas and anyone elese could comment on this long post I would appreciate it
Thanks
Jack
JEGAN98@aol.com
P.S. Isell what state do you sell cars in????
To me, my CR-V is not an investment, just reliable transportation for my family.
In the 31 years we have been married we have had a LOT of different cars.
Every day, she tells me that oou of all of them she LOVES her new CRV the best! That is saying a great deal coming from her!
No cargo mat like you are looking for. Maybe aftermarket?
And, who knows what changes are in the future. Stay tuned!
Where u been? It's good to have you back!
encountered some problems when there is a traffic
jam. When shifting from 1st to 2nd gear is done
many times in a traffic jam, I have encountered
situation where I cannot shift from 1st to 2nd.
Today, the problem got worse, not only I could
not shift, but the engine started to smell like
something is burning. I stopped the car and opened
the hood but see no smoke. After the engine cooled
down, I was able to drive it again. Did anyone
encounter similar situation? Pointers and info
appreaciated.
I haven't heard this one before. Could be a faulty throw out bearing. Go to the dealer right away.
So whats more impressive, the Honda CRV or $20,000 still in your hand? Not a convinced buyer (yet), maybe all the 20K vehicles sound loud.
But some cars are MUCH worse than others.
Korean cars are at the very top of that list!
And forget "book" values too. As low as the books are, in reality they typically bring thousands below those numbers.
A two year old CRV will sell for very close to the price of a new one.
Whomever said that there's maintenance costs, gas, etc associated with a car: The same holds true for a house. Sure, the value of your house goes up (assuming you maintain it properly). However, there's the interest on the loan, the electricity, gas, etc for utilities, property tax, the 6% fee to the agent to sell your house, etc. What do they say? A $150k house over 30 years will cost you a total of around $350k with the interest (just a guess)?
Maybe what people should say about cars being an investment, they mean that they want to minimize their losses (ie. maintain a decent resale value, low maintenance, etc) on their car?
Just my $0.02...