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  • 01r101r1 Member Posts: 280
    Tom,

    Sounds like the OEM filter is doing great! Yes, I'm still planning on a fair comparison between the two filters. I'll check once the snow starts falling and all the dust is gone in the air.

    On an unrelated note, the Jeep dealer just called me to say they may not cover any repairs to the driveline and/or components because I have a lift kit. I have to wait until Monday when a manager will review everything. I think the noise is coming from the u-joint directly in front of the transfer case. I'll know more Monday after I talk with their manager.

    I don't think that my 2" suspension lift would have affected a front u-joint in only 8K miles, there's not much of an angle there. If they are that delicate, I would think a rear one would fail first since its got more of an angle.

    Your software version is where I'd expect it to be compared to mine, but the '04's at 4.0 kind of threw me for a curve.

    Have a good weekend,
    -Pete
  • tsjaytsjay Member Posts: 4,591
    I guess it would be fair to say that the premature failure of a U-joint could be related to the new angle it has to operate in due to the lift.

    There's most likely not going to be any way to prove one way or the other if the lift caused the problem, so who gets the benefit of the doubt?

    There is probably some angle range that the manufacturer of the U-joint says that it is designed to operate in, and if the lift took it out of that range, then they have a legitimate reason to deny warranty.

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • spdmtr5spdmtr5 Member Posts: 111
    Just returned from the western slope of Colo.where we put our new Rubicon to the test.Wow!What a machine.All the aftermarket intake systems have an open,exposed air cleaner.Bad news when exposed to water.The snorkel from the air box on the Rubicon looks to me to be the best way to go unless an outside,windshield high system is installed.At high altitudes in 4lo I never felt I was lacking for power.I would spend my money on something else rather than a new intake system.
  • tstonemantstoneman Member Posts: 1
    Hi all,

    I am contemplating getting a Wrangler, but one of the showstoppers is whether or not to get the hard top. I like the idea of getting both, but at the very least I want to get the hardtop.

    However, I don't own my own garage, I live in an apartment complex. Is this infeasible? Is the hard top something I can store on my balcony, or should I just give up?

    Also, can one person put the hard top on, or does it require 2 people?

    Thanks for any info,

    Terry
  • gretagreta Member Posts: 23
    Though I usually don't have much "thought provoking" to say, I just got to say that I absolutely love to read this Forum. I seem to be totally addicted to checking out this site a couple times a day; hoping to learn something new of interest re: Wranglers! That's all I really want you guys to know. Thanks alot. Greta
  • bamatazzbamatazz Member Posts: 311
    you guys post like crazy..
      I need to check here everyday, i miss a few days then I have 30 post to read.
      my CEL has come back on too, Its went off, then came back on, im not too worried about it. Just a pain having to deal with.
      I will take it to Auto Zone on monday.
    Need to get tires rotated & oil change anyway.
    I can do all that monday.
     trying to double up on payments to get TAZZ paid for too.
      Want to get it paid for by the end of the year.

    keep jeepin
    BAMA
  • 99tj99tj Member Posts: 187
    I have both tops and live in an apartment. I actually live in a multi-family home. An old victorian that was split into 5 apts.
    I'm lucky enough to have a landlord that lets me keep the hardtop under a tarp behind the house. (He's a fellow Wrangler owner!)

    The hardtop is bigger and heavier than you would think. When I bought my TJ, I figured I would put the hardtop in the basement of this house. It has those "barn doors" that lead to the basement from outside. Turns out it wouldn't fit.

    You definitely need 2 people. Depending on how big your balcony is, you may be able to store it on end. Here's the big question, will it fit through the door of your apt complex? Will it fit through your apt door?

    If you hunt around the net you might find dimensions for the hardtop.
    If not, take a tape measure to a dealership and measure one yourself.

    There are a ton of posts, about Hard Top vs Soft Top in the last week or two on this board. Check them out, lots of opinions.

    -Dan
  • tsjaytsjay Member Posts: 4,591
    No, you should not store a hardtop on end. They should be stored flat on the ground (or suspended from a hoist is OK, if the proper attaching devices are used in the proper locations). I think they say this must be done to prevent the top from being distorted. Guess it might get mishapen, if not stored properly, and it would tend to keep that shape.

    DEFINITELY a two man job taking off or putting on the hardtop. If I remember correctly, they weigh about 140 lbs.

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • tsjaytsjay Member Posts: 4,591
    Hey, welcome to the family. Glad you have joined us and hope you will be a frequent poster.

    Yeah, if Rubicons existed when I bought Thelma Jane, she would have been a Rubi. They are truly awesome.

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • gman1259gman1259 Member Posts: 209
    I do not know about cold weather deals (I live in So CAL), but you may want to look at www.jeepwarehouse.com. They’re in Muncie, IN, and they will order the Jeep you want for a fair price.
  • goducks1goducks1 Member Posts: 432
    I took Trey's suggestion a few days ago and tried applying Penetrol to the faded-out fender flares, and it worked great, including standing up the monsoon rain. It's oil-based but the bleached-out plastic just drank it up and didn't leave any residue on the surface. Water just beads right off. I hit it with 3 coats over two days and they look nearly new again. Well worth the $8 and I only used about a third of the can. Just be careful to wipe any excess off the body, I had a little dry on there and it takes some substantial effort to get it back off.

    To the guy asking about hard tops and apartments--don't get the hard top unless you have a garage. Seriously. The soft top is probably fine unless you live in Alaska.
  • gman1259gman1259 Member Posts: 209
    It is definitely better if you can leave the top hanging in a garage but if you do not have that option then look at this stand.

    http://www.kxstand.com/index.html

    It looks to me that you could build a similar stand out of heavy 1” PVC pipe

    Glen
  • adam86adam86 Member Posts: 11
    Heading off the Oregon coast tomorrow with some friends! I wanted to bring my Jeep but was told by the dealership last oil change that doing such will get sand in places you never wanted, and would "inevitably damage" the under carriage and other parts. I cant believe that it could be that bad for the car when I've seen hundreds of people driving on the dunes. Any suggestions on how to drive on them safely or how to clean the car after to prevent any problems? Any help would be appreciated.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Heading for the Florence area? If you see a dead whale on the beach, run! Check out the video if you have broadband.

    I don't remember anything about hosing the rig down, but check out the SUV for Beach Sand discussion for driving tips.

    Steve, Host
  • tsjaytsjay Member Posts: 4,591
    Don't drive on sand? That's a new one on me.

    I think the dealer is full of baloney. I have never once heard of anyone having a problem with their Jeep that was related to sand getting into places it didn't belong. Mud and water, yes, but never heard that about sand.

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • 99tj99tj Member Posts: 187
    That whale video is great!
  • twylietwylie Member Posts: 619
    TAKE YOUR JEEP TO THE BEACH!!! I have had my Jeep on the outer banks of North Carolina a few times and it is fantastic. Driving top down (an doors off if you have somewhere safe for them) is really great. I've even driven my Jeep through some brackish ponds on the beach access roads and on roads behind dunes. As far as clean up, just get under the Jeep and spray anywhere you can reach. Another trick I use after going offroad on muddy trails is to set up a sprinkler under the Jeep for a half hour or so, moving it ever ten minutes front to back. Don't forget to air down to 15-20 depending on how close you'll be to an air source. Also, in soft deep sand, you dont' need to use the brakes to stop, just push in the clutch and you'll prevent the buildup of sand in front of the tires that makes it more difficult to start up again. The only other advice is to make sure all the grease fittings on the front of the Jeep have been topped off.

    Have fun and take pics.

    -twylie
  • mtngalmtngal Member Posts: 1,911
    Beach driving is great fun! I took mine out on the Pismo Beach a couple of years ago. No problems. Don't forget to wash it off when you get done to get the salt off the paint. I didn't air down, but then we didn't do much. Have a good time!
  • spdmtr5spdmtr5 Member Posts: 111
    Thanks for the welcome.I've been a dirtbiker for many years but a crash and broken collarbone last summer convinced this 64 year old that it's time to slow down.We're a two Jeep family-a Liberty and the Rubicon.My wife and I drive both and the mopar 4speed autos in each tend to get a bit confused when we trade.The dealer(who is great)states that they have some electronic trickery that adjusts to different driving styles.My wife has a lighter touch than I and for a few blocks the trans shifts too soon for my tastes.Soon,however,as I drive it;it begins to shift higher up in the RPM range.Has anyone else noticed this?I've lived in Colorado all my life.If anyone has questions about where to go'I'll try to help.
  • tsjaytsjay Member Posts: 4,591
    You are ONE LUCKY DUDE, Spdmtr5! I love Colorado. Have been there several times, but it has been WAY too long since my last visit in 1988. :(

    Hey, I'm a senior citizen too. I'm 55.

    If I remember right, your email is not public. Would you mind emailing me (my email is public in my profile). I would like to put you onto some websites, and we are not supposed to do that here.

    Identify yourself as spdmtr5 in your email, so I will know it's from you. Thanks.

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • drosketerdrosketer Member Posts: 203
    I feel your pain. There is no place to store the hardtop at my condo complex (and I have no intention of trying to get the thing up four flights of stairs!). My solution was to find a good buddy who doesn't mind keeping it in their yard... ;-)

    As for removing it, while I suspect it may be possible to do it solo, it's far easier to do with an extra pair of hands. I hear that beer makes for a great bribe in this department.

    A.
  • 01r101r1 Member Posts: 280
    Adam- Like others have said, go for it! You bought your Jeep to have fun, right? The big sand dune parks along the Oregon coast are the places I've had the most fun with mine. I take my '02 Wrangler to Sand Lake, Oregon frequently and have a blast every time. Airing down the tires makes a world of difference and is worth the headache of re-inflating. There were some big dunes that I couldn't get even a quarter of the way up, until I aired down and made it to the top. I have BFG Mud-Terrains (33") and I usually go down to 12 PSI. I usually try to not put any cornering loads on the tires when they're at low of pressure so I won't loose a bead. Most Wranglers I've talked to have no problems going down to 15 PSI. You can still drive a few miles on the pavement afterwards to find an air compressor, just don't take the corners very fast. I always scout out the air prior to hitting the sand.

    Depending on which park you're going to, you'll need two things to be legal - an Oregon ATV permit and a Flag for visibility reasons. The permits are sold at some of the state parks or gas stations near the park entrance. For a flag, buy the cheap little red/orange flag on the 5 ft long fiberglass pole that come with a little mounting bracket, they're only $5-10. I found a great spot for that bracket. Take the spare tire off and you'll see a good bolt to use by the 3rd brake light. This gets the flag up there high and doesn't interfere with top on/off. Leave the bracket there permanently, just slip the flag pole in when needed.

    If you're going after the real big dunes, you might want to watch other people first so you can judge the difficulty level. If none of the quads make it, don't try it :) You'll have to be careful if you don't make it to the top and have to back down. You may not have enough weight on the front tires to steer as you back down. This is very apparent when you try to use the brakes while backing down. If you can put it Low Range and Reverse with no brakes while backing down, it'll help with the steering issue. Not to say you should be climbing the big dunes in Low Range (I'm always in High), but you can make a quick change as you start back down. If you can't back down in Low Range, try to use your E-brake instead of the normal service brakes, you will retain more steering control while backing down the big ones.

    Not to state the obvious here, but always stay perpendicular with the slope of the dune, never traverse one. I've seen too many people get into trouble when they don't hit the dune straight-on and then they're dealing with some scary lean-angles.

    As far as clean-up goes, I like to stop at a power wash as soon as I'm off the sand to get a lot of the sand and salt off before heading home. Once I get home, I put the Jeep up on ramps to really expose the underside so I can give it a good wash. I spray out every nook and cranny and even hand wash if necessary. Don't forget the top-side too, if your Jeep is an inland one, I like to wash off that grime from all the salt air.

    Good luck! Be sure to write us back and tell us how it was.
    -Pete
  • tsjaytsjay Member Posts: 4,591
    Happy Birthday, Terry! :)

    I forgot... was it the year of the moon landing, the year before, or the year after???

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • erickplerickpl Member Posts: 2,735
    and is a year and a day older than me. :)

    -Paul
  • mtngalmtngal Member Posts: 1,911
    Happy Birthday to both both of you! Must be nice to be young - it's getting too hard to figure out where I was living when I was that young (OK, I'm stretching things a bit). When do you go "over the hill?" When I was 20, I thought 30 was middle-aged. When I was 30, I thought 50 was "over the hill." Recently I've decided it is 45 and I'm a long way on the wrong side of it.

    By the way, my Noble Black Steed's fixed air conditioning has been working quite well in this very hot, "monsoonal" weather (there have been some thunderstorms mixed with over 100 degree weather). So those wondering about the air conditioning - it works very well.
  • tsjaytsjay Member Posts: 4,591
    Happy birthday a day early to you, then!

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • erickplerickpl Member Posts: 2,735
    Coming back from Marina del Rey this weekend, I was caught in the traffic on the 405 and 5 due to 14 being closed. Hope these fires stay away from your neck of the woods. Did get a chance to see the damage on 138 though... dang arsonists. :(

    Gonna wash my TJ tonite - needs it with all this ash that's been falling. Lot less now.

    -Paul
  • mac24mac24 Member Posts: 3,910
    Many thanks for all your kind thoughts and words.

    I have to admit that I'm also feeling a little 'over the hill' at the moment, though I'm slowly recovering a little more each day. For anyone interested, spinal surgery can be less of a major operation today than even a couple years ago. I had a disc removed and two vertebrae fused together. I went under the anesthetic at 8.30am and I was taking my first tentative steps at 4.00pm! By the end of the next day I was back home. The biggest downside is that I have to wear a body brace for three months.

    To bring this back to a Jeep related topic, my Wrangler was the ideal vehicle for my doctor and hospital appointments. The roll bar over the door was perfect to grab while getting in and out, and the seat was just the right height. It would have been impossible for me to have got 'down' into a regular car seat. I was also able to lay with the the seat reclined and the a/c running for periods of up to two hours while waiting to be seen (I couldn't sit or stand).

    Anyhow, it's good to be back, though only for short periods at the moment.
  • erickplerickpl Member Posts: 2,735
    Glad to have you back. Your recovery sounds like it is on the perfect track.

    Take your time getting well - your health and well-being are the most important things.

    -Paul
  • tsjaytsjay Member Posts: 4,591
    Man, it's so good to see a post from the Old Macster again!

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • 01r101r1 Member Posts: 280
    Good to see you're back... is healing and you're on this board :)
    -Pete
  • 01r101r1 Member Posts: 280
    Just got my Wrangler back from the dealer this morning. Nothing had to be replaced, so we didn't have to go down the road of the lift kit voiding the warranty.

    The driveline noise was coming from the double cardan joint in front of the transfer case. They were able to lube it up to shut it up. I guess there's a rubber piece in there that dried up and squeaked on every revolution of the driveline.

    The engine noise stumped them. The tech heard it when I dropped it off and demonstrated it, but couldn't hear it over the next couple of days they had it. As soon as I got it home, the noise was back - typical of automotive noises I think, they're bashful when sitting in a service garage :) I'll take it back later this summer and try again.

    -Pete
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    WB Mac!

    Steve, Host
  • spdmtr5spdmtr5 Member Posts: 111
    My email address should be on my profile now.It's too bad that any info you would have for me can't be shared by all.Has anyone seen an aftermarket left foot foot rest(dead pedal)or does anyone have a design for a homebuilt?Seems like one could be bolted to the floorboard.With autos I'm a left foot braker and a rest would be a welcome addition.It's also not very comfortable on longer drives with no place to rest your foot.I think a foot rest would also make the driving position more stable during rough going.
  • mtngalmtngal Member Posts: 1,911
    mac - welcome back - glad to hear that back surgery is better than it used to be. I find that the seats in the Wrangler are a whole lot more comfortable for my arthritic back than the Taco's seats. I would think also that the extra headroom would be convenient for someone who couldn't bend much.

    Paul - so far, so good. Dan didn't see much when he went across the 138 Sunday - it was before dawn (they were escorting people because there were still hot spots). Guess I'll get to see the damage Sunday. Even though I'm facing 105-110 degree weather here in Vegas this week, I've been keeping an eye on the CHPs web site and following the fires. It seems like they just get one settled down and another one pops up not far away. Now before anyone's imagination gets away with them, thinking I'm spending all my time in air conditioned luxury at a casino, I'm not - I'm helping family move and lugging boxes out in all this heat. I envy all those who are enjoying weather in the 80s or lower.
  • tsjaytsjay Member Posts: 4,591
    Nope, it still says "private" where your email should appear.

    Why not just shoot me an email? Mine is public in my profile.

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • twylietwylie Member Posts: 619
    I found this dead pedal for sale online. I've seen a similar one in other magazines but couldn't find a link to them.

    http://www.performanceproducts.com/ProductPage.aspx?ProductName=D- ummy+Pedal&productid=109588&producttype=20

    -twylie
  • spdmtr5spdmtr5 Member Posts: 111
    Thanks! That looks like what I'm looking for.
  • gman1259gman1259 Member Posts: 209
    I have noticed that I cannot rely on the gas gauge. I usually get 300 miles to a tank of gas. Usually the low fuel light does not come on until I reach approximately 250 to 260 miles. This time the light came on at around 220 miles. I was at approximately 242 miles when I filled up this morning (the gas gauge was reading on “E”), but the tank would only take 17.2 gallons on gas (which tells me I could have made 300 miles). I guess the gauge is a little unreliable. Has anyone else experienced problems with there gas gauge?

    Glen
  • tsjaytsjay Member Posts: 4,591
    Might light comes on when the tank will only hold 14 or so gallons. I just don't rely on the gauge nearly as much as I do the trip odometer, which I reset at every fill up. I just use a conservative figure for miles per gallon and know how much gas I should have according to how far I have driven.

    We only have 19 gallon tanks, so if your light comes on when you can add 17.2 gallons, man it is letting you get right down to the last drop almost. I'm not sure what the true, useable amount of gas would be in a "19 gallon" tank. There could be a gallon or so that is just not useable, because it cannot be picked up by the fuel pump.

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • mac24mac24 Member Posts: 3,910
    Yes, it's a common problem, and not surprising when you think about it.

    The primary source for information on fuel level in the tank is a small float, which bounces around on top of the fuel as it sloshes about in the tank. This signal is damped by the PCM to a certain extent, but the fuel gauge reading and the warning light should really be taken as a guide, not as an exact measurement.

    Generally, it's more accurate to use the odometer as an indicator of when to refuel, but if you have experienced different terrain, weather, or load than normal, it too can catch you out.

    Personally, I always refill at an indicated quarter tank. Waiting until I'm on fumes saves no money and remember, the fuel pump is cooled by the fuel it sits in. Always running the tank to virtually empty won't cause it to catch fire, but it will likely shorten the life of the pump. The same is true for many other vehicles that use the same design of pump.
  • tsjaytsjay Member Posts: 4,591
    Now this is more like it! A technical question comes up, and the good old Macster posts a reply!

    Yeeeeeeeeeeeeehawwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!

    Mac, do you have any idea about how much of the 19 gallon tank capacity is actually useable fuel? When they say 19 gallons, that's not meant to be taken as 19 USEABLE gallons, is it?

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?

    P.S.

    How's the back?
  • mac24mac24 Member Posts: 3,910
    It's getting better every day thanks, but slowly. My main discomfort is from my sciatic nerve. It's the largest nerve in the body, and runs from close to the base of the spine down to the toes. Even though the damage to it was where it joins the spine, it signals to the brain that there is pain from the whole leg. Although the pressure on it has now been removed it'll take a while for it to recover.

    As to the fuel tank, on one occasion when I had no choice but to run it down until it was practically on fumes, I put in a little over twenty gallons! I was so surprised that I checked to make sure the pump had been recently been calibrated. However, for the reason I mentioned previously, I'd never rely on using the entire contents of the tank on a regular basis.
  • tsjaytsjay Member Posts: 4,591
    Same here. I HATE to let the tank get down to almost nothing in it.

    Now, you being a Jeeper, Mtngal, I'll bet you are not like this, but I think women in general must think that filling up the gas tank is something their husbands are supposed to do, if they can even make it to a gas station when they need to go somewhere in the car. I'll exclude ALL the lady Jeepers, cause Jeepers know better.

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?
  • gman1259gman1259 Member Posts: 209
    I'm badddd. I usually don't make gas stops until I have to. But, I did not know about the fuel pump issue.

    Glen
  • oceantoadoceantoad Member Posts: 186
    Been trying to catch you at that "other" place, but no luck.

    Figure I would let you know that I went back into debt. Bought a differnt 4WD since the Wrangler just can't do what this thing can. Plus I have wanted one for a long time.

    Guess I don't need to buy the diesel Liberty like I had been planning on.

    Still a happy camper, but even more so now.
  • jstjst Member Posts: 8
    ...Trivia....but I can ask why....have a '99 Wrangler Sport...the spare tire has one of three attaching nuts with a blind head which requires a key-adapter in order to remove the spare tire..and this came standard from the factory when I ordered the jeep...

    ....last nite at a local jeep dealer's lot...looked at three new '04 Wranglers..including two Unlimiteds...all three jeeps had the spare tire attached with three regular nuts....

    ...but also looked at an '02 Sport...this one had the spare tire with one of the three attaching nuts requiring a key...

    ....I thought the blind nut requiring a key was to prevent theft...does anyone know why DC stopped putting them on spare tires of recent jeeps...?
  • mac24mac24 Member Posts: 3,910
    I could make an inspired guess. Say the anti-theft nuts cost DC $2.50 each, and say that DC sells 100,000 Jeeps a year. It's not hard to see how some genius in accounting is going to figure a way of improving his bonus by saving the company a quarter of a million bucks this year.

    What...me....cynical?

    ;--)
  • tsjaytsjay Member Posts: 4,591
    What have you done???

    Did you get yourself an Unlimited? They are still considered Wranglers you know.

    Tell us!

    Tom

    Have you hugged your Jeep today?

    P.S. What do you mean a Wrangler can't do??? If a Wrangler can't do it, it ain't worth doin'!
  • gretagreta Member Posts: 23
    Mac, I can completely empathize with what you must have gone through and what it takes to recoup from a major operation. I just got 2 Total Hip Replacements both within a week on one another, a few months ago. I had no idea what I was in for, as far as the recouperation time. Glad it's all behind the both of us now. Anyway, while you were out, (back at # 13495, on July 4th; Pg. # 676 & forward with a few member's responses,) I had posted a question about what I had discovered Re: the Dashboard Self Diagnostic Check, that an owner can check. If you would care to review what I had written and give us your expert "2 cents worth," on that matter. I really, greatly value your sagely wisdom. Anyone else's "2 cents worth," is certainly welcome yet as well. Thank you, Greta
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