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If I hit the brakes, the dash lights turn on. The fog lights do as well if their switch is on.
If I hit the right (passenger side) turn signals, the dash lights and ALL turn signals (and fog lights if switch is turned on) flash except for the right outside front light (on the fender flare). The bulb is good, and works when the parking lights are on. There is a very dim light when the right turn signal is on, but it is at nowhere near normal brightness. Swapped the bulbs right/left and symptom stays on passenger side.
The drivers-side turn signals are fine. Backup lights, brake lights, parking lights, headlights, fog lights, all look good.
This just started this afternoon, and it is bugging me that I can't quickly find the problem.
If anyone has seen this before or has a shop manual that tells what the light interactions are, can you let me know? They may list this specific symptom, and it could be a bad wire. I just need to know where to look.
Thanks in advance!
I have one and it works great. It covers your whole door area if your doors are off. I have a black one and it has faded a little, but not enough for me to mind yet.
Any light that you can shed on this would be great. Trust me, I am a quick learner so you shouldn't have to tell me more than once!
Thanks - Chuck
"Part Time" just means you have 4wd engaged, whether it be 4 High or 4 low.
Any Jeep question is welcome here.
Do you have the carpet in your Jeep?
It is probably your transmission if you don't have carpet in. It doesn't matter where you sit in my Jeep, the floor is very hot. I usually have some husky liners in, which keeps the heat from radiating right up to my body. I am looking for a mod to keep the heat out of the cab. I have a 1.25" body lift and my floor still gets very hot.
This turned out to be an oil leak from an improperly sealed "gally plug" at the back of the engine plus rear main cap leak. Dealership did a dye test, found out that it was not the transmission fluid as I thought, but an oil leak. They had to pull the tranny to get to the plug.
Here is the wording from the repair: Verified Engine Oil leak. Added Oil Dye to trace leak. Found leak back of engine area. Necessary to remove trans and found leaking engine gally plug. Re-sealed oil gally plug. Also Also found rear main cap leak. R&R oil pan found no sealant between cap and block. Replaced main seal and rear main cap. Re-installed trans. no leaks.
So, new owners - check under your Wrangler directly behind oil pan and front of tranny - if you see even the least bit of oil, get it in for warranty. Maybe it was a Monday when my jeep rolled off of the line ! Anyway, a cause to keep an eye on it.
I guess they only went to six cities. You could drive the new Jeep compass on a road test. I didn't realize until I was driving one that I could of test drove one with a Hemi. For the off road course I drove the diesel liberty. I would like to have driven that on the road to see how much power it has. They also had a little spot to drive your own Jeep on. They had all the Jeep models, some concepts, older military Jeeps, the unlimited from the movie Sahara and others that I can't remember right now. The TJ version of the golden eagle was there. It looked a little better in person but I don't care for it much. I need to get a digital camera.
This event use to be called Jeep 101. I have been to it before. I have always enjoyed my time at these events.
Link to Camp Jeep on the road
Maybe it's my obscure sense of humor, but the reason I said you'll get two love bugs for every one regular bug is because of the reason that they've become known as 'love bugs' (instead of 'Plecia nearctica Hardy' which doesn't roll off the tongue nearly as easily).
When two of these insects mate, which is seemingly their main object in life, they become stuck together..............permanently! You never see a love bug on it's own, hence if you hit a love bug it'll always be a pair where you'll normally hit most other insects singly.
Phew, it must be a slow day! :sick:
Glad to hear you got it taken care of, and I'd continue to keep an eye open for any signs of fresh leaks.
You may already know this, but just in case, or in case others here don't know it, you SHOULD NOT engage four wheel drive on a Wrangler on dry pavement. Wranglers DO NOT have a full time four wheel drive system like many SUV's do.
There needs to be some slippage of the tires when a Wrangler is in four wheel drive. Running in four wheel drive on dry pavement will bind up the drive train, and it can cause premature failure of driveline components.
Tom
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
No........ that's incorrect, 'part time' means that the drive system on your Jeep is full time 2WD and the indicator light means you have selected part time 4WD. It doesn't matter whether you have locking differentials or not, it's still a part time 4WD system.
In 2WD, the normal state, it's just like the drive system of a regular rear wheel drive vehicle. When 4WD is selected, the drive to the front axle is engaged and the front and rear propshafts are effectively locked together, so take note of Tom's previous post! :shades:
-Mike
I live in the Wash DC area and we do get some snow during the winter, but not too much or very often. Given what you wrote Tom, would I be alright to use the 4x4 high on those days where the streets haven't been plowed? Given that my system is part time, can I assume that when I am in 4x4 high, that only when the back wheels slip, will the front wheels engage for true 4 wheel drive?
Still somewhat confused! :confuse:
Chuck
Your '97 has a 2.5 4cyl with a five speed tranny, but the later 4cyls have a different 2.4 engine with the six speed tranny. The Rubicons you saw (with locking diffs), all have 4.0 6cyl engines.
No, DC has never produced Wranglers with anything other than part time 4WD drive.
I am quite sure that I have seen some of them that when the 4x4 is selected, it indicates "4x4" on the dashboard.
That's possible as the instrument cluster was also used for the Cherokee, which had an optional AWD system. It's also possible to alter instrument cluster in the Wrangler.
You seem to be thinking that '4WD' really means 'full time 4WD', whereas it actually means what it says..................drive is provided to all four wheels, doesn't matter if it's part time or full time. A full time four wheel drive system is usually described All Wheel Drive (AWD).
Given that my system is part time, can I assume that when I am in 4x4 high, that only when the back wheels slip, will the front wheels engage for true 4 wheel drive?
No, when you engage 4WD (high or low) drive is sent to both axles and the propshafts are locked together. Due to the different paths taken by the wheels on the front and rear axles when cornering, they will turn at different speeds to each other on the same axle, and at different speeds axle to axle. The difference in wheel speed on the same axle is compensated for by the differentials, but there is no differential in the transfer case to allow the propshafts to rotate at different speeds. The stress that this builds up is relieved on a low traction surface by allowing the wheels to slip as necessary when the stress builds up. On a high traction surface that stress can't be released, as the wheels can't slip, and the internals of the transfer case get twisted in opposite directions. Additionally, it becomes progressively more difficult to steer. If this happens you may not be able to disengage 4WD, or even if the selector lever moves the system won't release. The way to deal with this is to reverse, sometimes for several hundred yards, which effectively 'unwinds' the stress from the system.
A full time 4WD (AWD), transmission has a third differential in the transfer case between the propshafts to allow them to rotate in normal conditions. That diff can also usually be locked to allow for better traction off road, when the system then becomes the same as your Jeep when 4WD has been selected.
........would I be alright to use the 4x4 high on those days where the streets haven't been plowed?
Yes, as long as you disengage it before you get back on tarmac.
Thanks!
Chuck
Tom - How far are you from our area?
I look forward to getting more 'jeep education' being a regular reader and sometimes contributor to this site!
Chuck
If you don't need to go off road then 33" tires are possible if you're prepared to accept a restricted turning circle as well. Otherwise, 31" is the practical maximum. However, to maintain reasonable performance from your 2.5 you'll need to consider regearing the axles.................and before you ask, no, a throttle body extension, K&N filter, bigger exhaust, chip, etc., etc. won't work instead.
Man, there is no one in this world who would be happier to take you out on the trails and introduce you to "wheelin' " than me, but you would be looking at probably twelve hours of travel time to get here. I'm in western KY, a long way from the DC area. Hey, if you are willing to drive that far, bring it on!
Do a google search or something, and try to find a local club. I'd almost guarantee you that you would have several to choose from in such a populated area.
You are very smart to be looking to hook up with some experienced Jeepers, instead of just heading out on your own.
Just be prepared to have the time of your life! One trip, and you will be hooked.
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeehawwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!!!
Tom
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
Glad you found your way here to Edmunds Jeep Wrangler. Now, just make yourself at home. We're always glad to have new folks become part of our family.
Congratulations on that Jeep purchase, Phil! Post a picture of Hunter.
Your profile says you are in Moline, IL, so it would be a long drive, but if you could ever get down here to western KY, I would be glad to take you out on the trails at Turkey Bay, where I do my "wheelin' ."
Phil, what would you be hoping to gain in going from a five speed to the six speed? (OK, before someone says it, "One gear.")
I guess my question should be worded, "What advantage do you expect the extra gear to give you?" I can't imagine any benefit that would be important enough to make the trouble and expense worth it, if it can even be done at all, given that the new 4 bangers are 2.4's.
Tom
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
Ross Allen's Jeep buddies and mine wanted to have a little ceremony to honor his memory, and that's what we did.
I took his ashes and two pictures of him with me to Turkey Bay, and we had a little get together at a spot where we have often taken our lunch breaks. Ross Allen would always make his rounds to see if anyone might have something to eat that they might want to share.
That spot has been officially designated "Ross Allen Park," by our usual gang of Jeepers.
I set Ross Allen's ashes on the hood of Thelma Jane and placed the two pictures next to them, one on either side. We all gathered around, and after I started things off with a prayer of thanksgiving for the ten wonderful years that God gave me with Ross Allen, each of our friends that we had often Jeeped with shared something that they remembered about him.
It made me feel good to know that these folks understood what a very, very special doggy Ross Allen was and that they loved him too.
The picture below shows how things were set up for the little ceremony.
If anyone cares to check it out, I have created a website in honor of Ross Allen.
http://home.earthlink.net/~tsjay53/
Tom
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
Just in case anyone else ever sees this.
And I'm thinking 31-10.5/15 for a tire.
I realize that the good news is that it is a warranty issue but I would like to know if anyone has had the same problem. Sometimes it is helpful to point the service writer in the right direction to save time and return trips to the dealership.
Appreciate your thoughts and help.
Harlan
I remembered suddenly that the Jeep Liberty had a recall at some point involving steering. I found relevant messages and the recall listing over in the Liberty group. I won't take up valubale space here with all the info, but the recall involved lower ball joints, control arms, and steering knuckles. Obviously these are different vehicles and years, but I also know automotive makers use identical parts/platforms on various models to cut costs. Is it possible what was wrong with the Liberty may also be wrong with the Wrangler??
Thanks,
Mike
I saw the bumper sticker below in a parking lot over the weekend and it reminded me of you and Ross. I apologize in advance to any ultra conservative, religious right wingers who may take offense. :P ">
<img src="http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b370/wmarkpowell/Photo_100705_001.jpg"
Mark
I THINK the top gear is the same, whether you have a six speed or a five speed. In other words, sixth gear on the six speed has the same ratio as fifth gear on the five speed.
So, at interstate speeds, there would be no advantage to one over the other.
Someone please confirm what I have said, or correct me on it, if I am wrong.
Tomster
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
That's cool.
Reminds me of the dyslexic, agnostic insomniac. He laid awake all night wondering if there really is a Dog.
Tomster
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
Changing the final drive ratio by regearing the axles is the way to go to be cost effective in any gearing change. Fitting the 31's may improve fuel consumption but will reduce performance.
A VERY common problem with Wranglers is the lack of a good seal around the heater box where it comes through the firewall. Water from the cowl gets into the cabin via that route. That would possibly explain the water on the passenger side. Not sure what the problem might be on the other side.
My Jeep is an 01, and the problem was very prevalent back then. I guess they have not done much to correct it in all this time. An Internet buddy was told by the service department where he bought his Jeep that there was no seal whatsover from the factory!
Tomster
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
Wished I could have made it.
I was going to make a surprise visit but my work schedule ended up surprising me.
Mike and Kelly are still sad that the Jeep Dog is gone.
here's a side photo,
please pay no attention to the winch line being hooked up
I understand. That would have been a LONG trip, and I wouldn't have expected you to come down. I know you and your family loved Ross Allen.
Tell Michael and Kelly that I will definitely be seeing Ross Allen again. I firmly believe that dogs go to Heaven. There's no such thing as "Doggy Heaven." There's just one Heaven, and our doggies will be there with us.
Tom
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
He had a locker, and he was running 33" tires. Now, he might have gotten away with that combination a lot longer, but he did something that he shouldn't have done with his set-up. He did some rock climbing, and that involved tire spin. When his tires got traction all at once, that's when the axle shaft snapped.
Jeep Buds, be careful with those Dana 35's. I would not recommend the use of a locker in a Dana 35, and especially not a locker AND bigger tires.
Lots of people run Dana 35s and don't break. These people stay out of situations that involve tires spinning and grabbing. They don't install lockers in the back.
The guy was carrying extra axle shafts, so he was able to do a trail repair, but it took about three hours.
Tomster
Have you hugged your Jeep today?
Absolutely it was! I'll always jump in to defend the D35 when it unfairly gets a bad rap, but this guy did everything wrong (except carry spare shafts).
However, the same technique can be used to destroy a D44 just as easily. Takes a little longer or a little more right foot, that's all! :shades:
Phil
It might save you some grief if you do a little search on "backspacing" before you buy wheels and tires. In short, the factory backspacing is 5.5" on Jeep wheels. With that backspacing, the widest tire you can run is 10.50." If you go wider than that on the tires while keeping the factory backspacing, the tires will rub on the spring perches in the rear and on the control arms up front.
If you want to run wider tires, then you should buy wheels with less backspacing. Backspacing pulls the wheels and tires in toward the center of the Jeep, so less backspacing pushes the tires outward.
Tomster
Have you hugged your Jeep today?