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In fact, I do not trust realy trust him. I think they could be some minor changes.
How do I know to correct my driving style, habits, if I never know that what, exactly, I did put the vehicle into the "twilight zone". And without knowing aren't I likely to simply begin to absentmindedly rely on the system which of course could eventually lead to disaster.
It seems to me that it might even be a good idea to dole out some sort of "punishment" to the driver, such as maybe 10 seconds of engine idle only performance, each time the VSC is triggered.
Without some sort of feedback telling me I have pushed the vehicle beyond my personal response limits then it seems to me that relying on the VSC to save my butt might become habitual.
It is a shame that Lexus doesn't make a 2" hitch receiver and accessories standard equipment on all RX300s. Real SUV drivers/owners have hitch receivers, Soccer Moms do not.
Currently looking and seems like some dealers are truly anxious to sell. Looking for the NON Silversport without NAV and including the Premium Plus package.
Prices have ranged from $34,000 -$36,000 ,for a lease of 39 months
Differentiate the RX from the HL by horsepower? How do they differentiate the LX and the landcruiser today?
The MDX will be the "differential" target for the RX for some time to come. The MDX will get VSC, Trac and HID, and the RX will get another seat and maybe true AWD like the MDX.
Hmmm, true AWD, now that would really differentiate the RX from the HL....
If the MDX does get VSC, Trac and HID watch for the bottom to drop out of the RX market.
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Torque split is 70/30 front to rear unless there is a differential rate of rotation between front and rear axles and that will cause the clutch's viscosity to increase delivering as much as 49%, NEVER over 50%, of the available torque to the rear axle.
That's the reason you will notice heavy torque steer on the RX if you get on it while turning, especially right turns.
In my defense the MDX automatically shifts 52% of the torque to the rear wheels under some operating circumstances, notably to prevent torque steer during quick starts.
I had a 2000 Rx and when the MDX came out I did a thorough comparison, bought the 2001 RX and then other than the RX having VSC, Trac, and HID, clearly forgot why.
The MDX has a mechanical clutch used to deliver 52% of the torque to the rear wheels and I found that to be much more desireable than my 2000 RX. But the availibility of 4-wheel Trac on the 2001 RX level the AWD "playing field" between the two and the RX won out.
I just recently picked up a pre-owned '99 that's AWD with the limited slip differential and this most recent thread has raised some questions from me.
Does the 50/50 or 70/30 split also apply to the '99 version?
Does the limited slip differential in the rear change the split in any way?
Am I to understand that even in normal conditions that there is some power being applied to the rear wheels?
Lastly, are there additional maintenance concerns that need to be addressed or made aware to service technicians? Also, what mileage points should the AWD be looked at or maintenanced?
Appreciate any help.
I'm curious as well.
I'd also like to add to the person describing torque and how it can relate to making a right turn...Thank You! You (kinda) answered something I've been curious about for a while. There's this one right turn I make, and it always feels like I get incredible torque out of my engine at this one stretch of the road! I've felt it it the different cars I've driven. I will soon be feeling it when I take delivery of my soon-to-be friend, the RX.
Thanks.
I owned an 87 Jeep and then a 92 until I bought the 2000 RX.
There is deep snow and then there is DEEP SNOW.
Both Jeeps had TRUE full time AWD in that the transmission output drove the input for "two" viscous clutches, one to drive the rear axle and one to drive the front axle. Obviously full engine torque could be delivered to either axle with this arrangement.
I was still an avid skier when we had the 87 and there were many times when no only did the AWD not do the job, I had to switch to 4WD and install chains to climb a mountain pass to the ski area, Mount Bachelor for one.
With the 92 I only had one occassion like the above, in 95 we had snow, melted, froze, snow, melted, froze, etc, until it was up to the axles of the Jeep. Chains on all four wheels and 4WD was the only thing that moved me the 100yds down my level gravel driveway to the plowed street.
So, if you're talking dry powder snow with no ice underlayment then I'm sure the RX will do fine. But here in the mountainous regions near and in Seattle we often must deal with what is called pacific boilerplate and thus there will always be a set of chains in my RX when travelled in the wintertime.
And Drew:
I have noticed that the Canadian LS has an electrically heated windshield while the US version does not. Since you say the RX torque split is 50/50 that leads me to wonder if Canada gets a different AWD setup than the US?
Viscous clutch maintenance issues: In the manual it appears to be a sealed unit and I have found nothing in the manual implying it can be repaired in the field.
The Porsche manual for their viscous clutch AWD very clearly states certain circumstances in which the clutch can sustain permanent damage in as little as 20 seconds of uncorrectable differential front to rear axle speeds.
The model I'm getting has the 6CD changer mounted in the glove box. From what I read in your post, it sounds like that would negate using the mounted type of Nav system?
I doubt that Canadian RX's get different AWD torque split ratios. That would've be cost effective, I think. Any thoughts on this? BTW, does your shop manual only cover the '01 model year, or RX's prior to that too?
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I'd appreciate any information on dealers that are willing to quote a lower price.
Thanks.
Can this be installed at a Lexus dealership? If so, what does it include? Where do they mount the LCD screen?
Any info is greatly appreciated...
-Craig
As my earlier post stated, the dealer first offered $1000 over invoice for any NAV RX, and $500 over for any non-NAV. After showing them the carsdirect price, they offered to take off another $200. They seemed to be a really aggressive dealership, so getting a good price shouldn't be difficult. Just tell them you're also considering a MDX, ML, or X5...there's too much competition for them not to deal.
It's hard to believe they didn't want to accept my offer, it being the month's/fiscal quarter end, and all. Perhaps their volume has been high...
In retrospect with a night of sleep, he prolly did me a favor as my vehicle is worth just a tad more than the $l4,000 he quoted me. We sunk some bucks into making this RAV look awesome (added one of a kind chromes and aftermarket leather) and I'm not about to let this guy steal my car from me. They had another generic RAV on the lot--no fancy trims or anything and their sticker was over $20K. Yet he sat inside and told me he wasn't going to be able to sell my car for more than $l6,000. So, either he's telling me to offer $4k less on any sticker they have, or he wants to steal my car and then sell it and look good because his profit is so high.
Problem is, we're going to sell our own car, go in and demand the exact same pricing for the new car with no chance for them to make money on my existing car. They just shot themselves in the foot and it's going to cost them a couple grand in profit because of it.
Again, thanks for posting that info. The coinkydink was truly remarkable as I had *just* gotten home from the dealer and pulled up this list and the only new posting was yours talking about your deal at TO Lexus.
I believe in "meant to be's" and this sure seems like one...
Jack
Many [non-permissible content removed]'s cars are very reliable. I skipped quite a few times of routine services on my 94 Altima and 96 Maxima, still zero problem, virtually no repair so far.
Just thought some other readers have been wrestling with this and didn't know why the tint looked like a bad job. Take off your sunglasses and you'll see the windows in a whole new light!
I know people say you shouldn't own the Lexus if you can't afford the maintenance. This is not the case, though - regardless of how much money I have, I'm not looking to squander it.
Just be sure to keep documentation of the service at Toyota should a warranty issue come up since the service performed won't be in the computer system of your Lexus dealer.
Excerpt from LexusOwners.com:
"... The RX 300 gets the Lexus Vehicle Skid Control (VSC) system for the 2001 model year. This computer-controlled system replaces the mechanical limited-slip center differential on four-wheel-drive models. Besides saving more than 50 pounds of the performance-robbing weight of the differential, VSC improves traction and cornering grip by monitoring speed, yaw rate and steering angle, selectively applying one or more brakes, and automatically reducing the throttle to keep the RX300 on its intended course. This sophisticated technology is also included on front-wheel-drive models, and is distinguished by a subtle badge on the lower cladding, just behind the front-wheel opening."
Therefore, I suspect that the discussions on the center viscous coupling differential apply only to RXs earlier than 2001, and a statement that AWD on all RXs since the beginning is the same is not correct.
My guess is that they spend less than 1 hour doing whatever "servicing" they claim to do, and that of the $675 that about $600 is pure profit. A total scam in my opinion.
It used to be the 30k "service" was where they gotcha but now the intervals are getting shorter. What's next, a "5000 Mile Service" for $400??