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Lexus RX 300



  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    I understand that a few years ago Porsche hired some Japanese engineering/business consultants to help them get their manufacturing system back "on-track". It now appears that that effort was extremely successful.

    Is it now time for Lexus to hire Porsche consultants to tell them how to "option" their cars?

    A new 911 can be ordered with light or dark dark wood grain accents, aluminum accents, or "fiber" look accents. Almost everything about the interior of the car can be customized according to customer wishes and desires. For about $4,000, Porsche will even paint the exterior of the car any color a customer designates.

    My 92 burgandy LS400 with ivory/beige leather and wood accents is indeed a beautiful car, color combination, even today.

    The 2001 LS400 Dark Cherry is not available with the ivory/beige interior and if you chose another color in order to get beige then you are stuck with non-matching greytone wood grain accents.

    Only when Lexus can offer me a dark cherry UL LS with beige/ivory interior (anything not toward the "whiteness" of ecru) and light woodgrain accents will I even consider purchasing another LS.

    Until about 95 I, and many of my Lexus owning friends, believed that Lexus was fully attuned to the "fashion" desires of the american public, at least from the viewpoint of automotive "fashion".

    Today they seem to have lost their way. I suspect that they will not again pay much attention to the opinions of american buyers until the sales rate falls below their manufacturing capability.

    And that is a real shame. We WILL remember!
  • kimwipeskimwipes Posts: 21
    The car was brand new, 7 miles on it ;)
    I dealt with Steve, forgot his last name.

    Not much haggle. Went there on Sun, test drove, picked model/color and they offered a price.

    Monday 9am I called Lexus of Eugene, got them to offer their best price on same model/color after telling him I could get for the price I've found on the net. They agreed. As another post mentioned, the Eugene dealer is very competitive.

    Monday 10am, called back Kuni, let them know the deal I was offered in Eugene, and that I would be happy to stay in town if they lowered the price. They did, but by a few bucks (I guess they knew I wasn't going to drive 120 miles).

    So, I would say this was pretty easy. At first Kuni did not believe I was offered this price in Eugene, but after I told them "OK, I'll buy somewhere else", they accepted. I was firm and I was prepared to go elsewhere and he must have felt that. Another thing, they had just gotten that car the previous day, so they were going to get all the dealer holdback as profit, and I let them know that I knew this. So their argument of
    'We have to make a little something' was not flying.

    Hope that helps.
  • mooretorquemooretorque Posts: 241
    Jeffmust2, thought something was familiar about that ranting syntax. I agree, I think GT has returned.

    WWwest, true that the 911 can be customized to a fare-the-well but Porsche is very proud of their opportunities to do so; how much can leather covered knobs for the HVAC/stereo controls REALLY be worth?? That said, I tend to agree with you. It makes no real sense to restrict interior/exterior color combinations when there are only 3 interior colors for Lexus anyway.
  • adpcsadpcs Posts: 58
    I know this has been discussed before, but please help me pinpoint these..(2001 RX - 2WD)
    1. I have a rattle coming from the glovebox somewhere..what is the fix? It seems to be getting louder and louder. I emptied everything out of the glovebox and that side of the car.
    2. There is a clicking sound coming from the drivers side under the dash. Any ideas? Seems to be more prevalent while making turns, but I could be just imagining that.
    3. Also, when you put the key in, without the ignition on, there is some noise coming from under the hood, like something is drawing power...Ideas?


  • rparis2rparis2 Posts: 46
    On my new RX I have no noise other than your comment #3. I asked the service manager about it and, he did not know although it was happening on the showroom car. He will investigate it and get back to me. Something is being activted.
  • mooretorquemooretorque Posts: 241
    Tarik, no disagreement from me re customization. And as far as value, things are worth precisely what someone is willing to pay - merely seems to me that Porsche likely has a healthy profit margin on their options. Nothing wrong with that either!!

    adpcs, glovebox rattle can be fixed by "felting" the box. seems to be a somewhat common Lex problem; my wife's 99 RX hasn't done it, but my new 01 GS430 did. clicking may be fuel injectors (they are faintly audible). is it rpm variable?? occur when driving or any time engine running? as far as third issue, a fair number of things power up when key inserted, so no clue.
  • Does anyone know how to turn off the daytime running lights?
  • mkdwyermkdwyer Posts: 4
    Just another data point - I called two Lexus dealers and both said that the chrome wheel option uses the same tires as the stock wheel. The option is for the wheels only - no tire upgrade. This seems to differ with what has been reported here as well as what is listed for this option on "Tires: All Season w/Chrome Wheels, Heavy Duty tires with 225mm width, 16.0".
  • sybelesybele Posts: 42
    Just curious, how many RX owners have leather seat cracks?
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    If you look at Porsche dealer invoice price (and IF you tend to believe them!) of the various options versus the basic car margins then it appears that the margins on the options are lower, as a percentage, than the margins on the basic unadorned car.

    Your point is well made, most of the cars sold in the US (we are quite spoiled and aren't used to waiting for anything) are sold as "off-the-shelf", so both Porsche and Lexus have their basic pricing models correct.
  • newtosuvnewtosuv Posts: 9
    Sybele, etc. I noticed after 3 weeks of driving my RX 300 that the leather of the driver's seat was cracked. When I brought it in for the first service, the guy said that it was normal wear and tear. I disagreed with this and talked to the service manager. He said that this is not the first he has heard of this and that when I come in for the 5000 mile service, he will take care of it. He said that it is not wear and tear but a dye(?) problem.... not sure what that means.

    Has anyone else had this problem? Has anything helped?

  • newtosuvnewtosuv Posts: 9
    One more question...I have only had my RX 300 for a month and the front plate is bent from going through the car wash. Is there a differnet kind of plate holder that will work better? Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.

  • pschiffepschiffe Posts: 373
    I attached a 6" x 12" sheet of aluminum to the back of the plate with stainless steel bolts to give it extra support - scrap from local DOT sign shop. Pretty weak front bracket design on a 40K vehicle!

  • malhokcmalhokc Posts: 83
    This is a safety feature, it can not be turned off.
  • tariktarik Posts: 344
    Cracks in leather

    My last car, a Volvo 850, developed small cracks on the left hand side of the driver's seatback after 3 months. The dealer had those spots "re-dyed" at a local detailing place, and you couldn't tell the slightest bit! Why it happened, I don't know, but believe me, I'm PARTICULAR, and I have not been disappointed for the following three years.

    License plate

    Peter, you are dead on, it's simply cheap!
    Local car wash employees here offer to remove the front tag (as a precautionary measure) before they run the car throgh!!! What??? I am reluctant to merely reinforce the license plate with any backing, plastic or sheetmetal, as I am afraid it will be ripped out of the bumper INCLUDING the screws (what a thought...). It is difficult to find another bracket, since the RX's front bumper is pointed in the center, and a new holder would have to fit this shape. If anyone finds a suitable replacement, please let us know.

  • mlevinedcmlevinedc Posts: 45
    Though I did not order the Gold Package with my RX300, I did start to do some checking on eBay for parts and accessories. I found a fellow in California that sells 24K Gold Plated items for the RX. I bought the front grill "L" for 9.99 from him. He will plate your Grill L, Lexus name, RX300, antenna trim ring, and Rear "L" for 50.00 plus shipping. Email me privately for his eMail address.
  • rmorin2rmorin2 Posts: 110
    My '00 RX has also developed cracks on the left side of the driver's seat cushion. Hope to have it taken care of at the next service. We are also having problem diagnosing an annoying reverberating noise while the engine is idling and the transmission is in Drive or Reverse. The noise comes and goes but is very irritating, kind of a resonation not unlike an exhaust leak. Dealer has been unable to fix even after replacing the rear muffler. Am going to suggest replacing the catalytic converter since it seems the source is right under the front seat area of the vehicle. Any help would be appreciated from others who may have had similar problem. Thanks.
  • tariktarik Posts: 344
    Hi Randall, I have read your cry for help regarding the vibration numerous times, but did never comment on it for my lack of knowledge. Have you considered / suggested to the dealer to involve a factory service rep? Is the idle speed a bit too high and the car wants to pull? Can you tell a difference if you raise (or lower) the idle speed SLIGHTLY? Did the dealer comment on the possibility of a transmission-related issue? It could also be a loose or wobbling flywheel or harmonic damper. How about the (in)famous electro-hydraulic motor bearing, function failure or so...

    Although it seems to be an isolated case, I feel that the Lexus folks should have more interest in getting this flaw worked out...

    Having said that, I just remembered a fax answer, which I got back from Lexus in California, after inquiring about the fact that the '99 AWD RX WILL get stuck (it also happened to a former TH-poster) with only one wheel having zero traction (or getting stuck in snow and then spinning).

    I was basically told that Lex deemed their AWD completely worthy of a 40k vehicle, and that it really is a rare situation to begin with. Well, all that doesn't matter, if I happen to be the one in trouble!!! Plus, newer versions of the AWD RX have VSC, which should resolve the issue...

    Do not give up, go for your own relentless pursuit of getting what you deserve, and if you come by my area, let me know and we crawl under the car together and figure it out.

    Seriously mad Tarik
  • mikey00mikey00 Posts: 462
    My front plate was also bending at the car wash. Funny thing the car wash bending the plate was the free one provided by the dealer at service. I just found an old license plate and put it behind my bending one. It stiffens the plate enough to prevent future bending, it's the perfect size, and already has the holes in the right place.
  • mikey00mikey00 Posts: 462
    I have a 2000 RX300. When it is raining or when going through a car wash, if you turn your head to look at the rear corners of the sunroof glass, dripping water is visible. It drips into a channel above the head liner designed to route it out of the car near the rear wheels. The dealer checked it out and said it is normal and all Lexus sunroofs do it. I called the 800 Lexus # and they also said it was normal. Anyone else notice this?
  • gonzo7gonzo7 Posts: 259
    Posts 1432, 1433- Stop washing your RX.
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    My 92 LS does the same thing, just be sure and clean out the drain lines in the back corners of the sunroof retraction "cavity" every few years. It takes a long vacuum line like those sold to reach under refrigerators.

    Otherwise after a few years enough dirt, debris will accumulate from the times when the sunroof is open to block the flow.
  • ahuiahui Posts: 15
    I have been reading posts of people complaining of cracking leather. Are those primarily with the Ivory or Black leather, or both? For those of you with the cracks, were you using the heaters alot? Shouldn't make a difference I guess.
  • mvs1mvs1 Posts: 462
    I had a similar problem when I first got the RX. I initially thought that it was caused by dark clothing dye(i.e. denim). I ended up using a cleaner and conditioned by Tanner's preserve, then a scotch guard. I'm sure a similar cleaner will do the same such as Lexol, recommended by others here although I myself have not used it. Haven't had the problem again, use the heated seats frequently, no smells etc.
  • spakcharspakchar Posts: 37
    The regulars on this forum will probably get a chuckle out of this, but I paralell parked my RX for the first yesterday after 6 mos of ownership. In the PHX area you rarely need to do it, sounds incredible I know. Anyway I pulled into a scottsdale bar/restaurant and the only available spot required this little used maneuver. I couldn't believe how easy it was to put the RX into that tight looking spot.
    I also played in a golf tourney this weekend and following sundays round we decided to go home with intention of at catching at least the last 30 minutes of the masters telecast. We covered the 150 miles in less than two hours averaging at least 80mph, mileage for the run was 21mpg--which I think was just fantastic.
  • steverstever Posts: 52,572
    Make sure you lock the doors:-)

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  • bcmksrtbcmksrt Posts: 1
    New to the Owner's Club and to the RX. Since we opted not to get the Premium Package on our '01RX300, but still wanted a CD changer, our salesman dissuaded us from spending $1400 or whatever on a brand-new, dealer-installed one. He told us that he'd seen used Lexus Six-CD Changers on the Web for $200-400.

    On, they do offer the CD changer for $699.55 and about $140 total for the glove box and instrument panels. Does anyone know of another site where I might find what I'm looking for? This doesn't quite match the salesman's optimistic predictions!
  • 00rxguy100rxguy1 Posts: 38
    I've been reading posts regarding the leather cracking. What exactly happens when someone says the leather is "cracking". i have a 2000 rx and in the front driver and passenger side the leather is starting to wrinkle. I thought that it was mainly caused by sliding in and out of the seats. or denim, as said the previous posts. But is that what you guys mean when you say it is cracking. Is this normal? i use to think it was, but after reading this i think not. i only drive my rx on the weekends so it is never really exposed to the sun. It has been garaged all the time.What i see in the seats of my RX is lines i used the Lexus leather cleaner and it takes all the dirt away but the cracks are still there. So, what is leather cracks and is it normal.
  • sybelesybele Posts: 42
    The wrinkling of the leather is from normal everyday use. However, the leather should not crack, particularly when you regularly apply Lexol. Three friends of mine, owners of RX's, have the same problem. On my next visit to the dealer, I am planning to get to the bottom of this.
  • trmgatrmga Posts: 50
    In response to tariks message I am also having problems with my front license plate coming loose after going through a very gentle car wash. I called the dealer this afternoon and asked if he had a fix for the way the license plate is mounted on the front bumper. He asked if the clips were in place. I said there were no clips, just two holes through the vinyl front bumper and the screws didn't seem to go into anyting metal--just the vinyl. He said to come by and get the metal clips that are supposed to be on the bumper. I'll go by this weekend and see if these clips do anything to give additional support to the license plate. I suspect that a KIA or Hyndai (sp?) probably has a better mounting arrangement than the RX 300. Do others of you have metal clips that your front license plates are secured to?
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