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He stated he sees far too many Hyundais in his store with bad tire problems, and it doesn't matter what brand the tires are or what model/make of Hyundai they are on. His take is Hyundai has serious problems with their suspensions and have had this problem for a long time without making any effort to correct the problems. If they had made an effort, it wasn't successful. His suggestion was to replace the tires with an inexpensive but fair quality tire as needed and just try to live with the problem.
That's not exactly what I wanted to hear, but if one doesn't want to hear the answer they should not ask the question.
I will take the problem to the tire dealer and to the car dealer and see what I can accomplish.
I can tell you, the Michelin's that came with both my Azera & my '02 Sonata were less than desirable. The aftermarket tires I chose to put on offered a quieter ride, seemed to soak up bumps better and performed better in wet/snowy weather as well. Personally, I would never look at Michelin tires...I've had great experiences with Hankook, Nexen & General. Not to say those are best, but they have all offered better overall performance and value when compared to the OEM Michelins.
Hyundai did a bunch of cost-cutting on Azeras. None of them are major, but they're true.
1. The poor-quality Michelins as OEM tires.
2. Weak OEM battery.
3. A stupid donut tire in trunk as spare for 07 & onwards
As I said, none are major issues. Other than these , I don't have any other issues. I have put a REAL tire as spare in the trunk now. I'm changing to a good Interstate battery when the current one dies. And I'll change my Michelins to General Altimax soon.
Trust me, I have seen the difference between Michelins & other tires on Azeras & I can't wait to throw mine away.
I have swapped out my OEM battery as well. I actually went to Walmart and got an EverStart battery and have had no problems whatsoever. Actually, the slight headlight dimming issue I was having before, disappeared once I installed the new battery.
I think you'll like the Altimax tires...they have actually made my Azera fun to drive again! Let me know what you think if/when you do get them.
It's just kind of sad that we have to deal with this crap after paying a premium for a supposedly top of the line car. We really like this car, but it won't take but one more hit like this to put me in something else.
Technically...you're not paying a premium for a top of the line vehicle, you're getting a vehicle that can compete with some top of the line vehicles and saving some coin. I guess in this regards...you have to expect the savings to show up somewhere.
I wonder if anyone complains about the Michelins that are OEM on Honda vehicles? If not...maybe Honda brokered a deal for a better quality tire than Hyundai did.
One thing I'd say about Michelins though, they seem to last a long time. I think I can easily go for another 15-20k easily. But I think I'll go for another 5k on these & then replace them (or if Tirerack has some good price on them before).
The only good thing is that technically, you didn't come out of your pocket for the Michelins, but I do understand it seeming like a waste to replace them now. I know one thing, if I would have know how much of a difference it would have made, I would have swapped mine out long before they wore down. I think I got about 40-45k miles out of them.
What really made me frown upon the OEM Michelins was the fact that when I put my 20" wheel package on with Nexen-made Lexani tires, even those tires were an upgrade in terms of quietness, handling and comfort...even with a shorter sidewall. The only trade off was I only got about 35k miles out of them.
I wonder if the Kuhmo brand tires that come on some of the other Hyundai vehicles are any better?
I've seen the Energy MXV4's on a lot of cars....OEM I presume.
I haven't seen them for sale @ retail...the Primacy MXV4 is usually listed (more expensive and probably better grade)
The Energy's are probably a OEM factory run tire...I still have them on my 06 with 24k and they look like new....
24k miles on those tires, yeah...they're gonna still look pretty new. Once you hit 35k or so...they'll start looing a bit worn, but you'll notice a drop off in handling, quietness and performance in incliment weather.
What do you know about the Nexen N 5000's??? I can get 4 mounted, balanced, etc for $400 locally...I think you had a set on your car....I know they are V rated, but haven't checked on the treadwear, temp, or load rating...I want to put a set of 235/45/17's on my '06.
May I ask why 235/45-17???
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I have a set of Nexen 7000s on my car...these are the all-season ones, and they are great. I went with 18s on mine.
I think the 45s will be a nice benefit in handling over the 55s
Notice you have 18's on yours, 10649 wants to keep the stock 17's and put the 45's on that....not saying it can't be done, he'll definitely reap benefits of handling with the lower profile, but his speedometer will be affected as will his fuel economy (slightly).
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=GTAS
A couple clicks from that link will take you to owner reviews which, for the most
part, were glowing. Thanks for bringing the Kumho to our attention.
Went to Joe Pecheles Hyundai in Greenville, NC hoping it was under some sort of warranty. Nope. They told me a new tire would cost me $245! I don't like this dealership anyway since they refused to give me an pricing over the phone when I was helping a friend buy an Elantra in August and then on my purchase (initially for a Genesis) in September. Idiots! I told the service manager I would have to price the tire around town first.
I went down to the tire place I normally use for oil changes and they gave me a price of $193. I agreed to that and they ordered the tire.
I called Michelin to express my irritation that a brand new $200 tire doesn't come with any type of road hazard protection. The representative was very nice and told me Michelin would help me. They first wanted me to go to a Michelin dealer. I explained my story and told him the tire had already been ordered and I wanted to stick with them (also for the fact that we have had 3 days of rain from Hurricane Ida and I wanted the tire fixed). He said no problem to have the store call him with my reference number.
Long story, short.....Michelin gave me an $80 credit toward the tire! I have learned over and over again - it never hurts to ask!
Never had a problem like that in my 30 some cars either.
Bought a set of Goodyear Assurance Comfortred and very happy with them. They are very quiet and give a comfortable ride.
But I didn't know about the TSB on alignment, will have to check that out.
Craig
Craig
Once you buy the car, you can put on any tire you want. If a tire store balks at selling you a set of lower rated tires, you could point out that they have plenty of competitors that will.
Are you sure that Azera has no speed limiter? I thought all Hyundai/Kia vehicles had speeds limited to 134.375 mph (215 kmph) in US, except track-spec Genesis Coupe.
While V rated tires are what come on the Azera due to it's capabilities...an H rated tire is just fine as well. I've actually noticed a much better ride, enjoyed longer tread life and of course, less money out of my pocket when purchasing a good tire.
The best thing to do is research some tires you're interested in and buy them according to the type of driver you are. Even if you take trips to 100 mph on a regular basis, H rated tires are capable of handling that.
Tire speed ratings are for sustained speeds, I doubt that a short blast over an H rating would be disastrous. When I was young and foolish, I did a quick trip to 145MPH in an SS396 with the crap tires they had in the '60s - no problem.
Dont plan on taking it up there again, but I like the extra safety factor as I do see triple digits a few times a year.
My dad looked at one and I made sure I got the 45!
Cheers!!
TIA,
--Shag
My 2001 XG300 had crappy Michelins that had to be replaced at 35k (hell, the whole car was crappy and was in the shop every month for some warranty covered issue). But I refused the offer for the same new tires when needed from Fairfax (VA) Hyundai and went to JustTires for Goodyear touring tires that lasted fine until I got rid of the XG 55,000 miles later.
Tire prices and labor for putting them on, aligning the car, etc. from the dealer's shop is usually ridiculous. My current dealer matches them....Alexandria Hyundai....