thank you all for this. I am definitely going to get all of that checked out (struts etc...) and then I am going to just purchase a new set of tires and put the "newly" brought on in as the spare. Because honestly i don't want anything to happen to me on the road. I will check with an outside mech on the struts, If they're good then I'll just purchase the tires. IF not, The dealer will hear my mouth. Thanks again.
So any recommendations on the type of replacements. I don't mind th OEm's but wanted some equally as good (quality wise) and if I could save a few bucks that'll help.
I was thinking of the Toyo proxes TPT. Has anyone replaced their tires to NON-Michelin? Thanks again!!
My car has all weather tires. when they wear out, I might consider summer tires. Won't they last longer? I rarely take this car into the Snow as my wife has an Audi Quattro.2007 Azera Limited
Depends. Generally speaking a summer tire will NOT last as long as an all season tire. They are made from softer materials, get better traction, and wear quicker.
Hey Snags...I'm not out to push someone into something. I'm just pointing out another good looking tire. I've had Pirelli tires before and they didn't last long. H rated tire is perfect for the average person's driving too. I would be leery of a Pirelli costing less than $100.
$91 for an Ultra-high performance All-Season tire means it's bottom of the barrel for that line. The General Altimax is a Grand Touring All-Season and the 440 rating means it should also wear longer, which makes sense since the Pirelli PZero is W-speed rated...yeah, I'll pay $11 more for the type of tire I really need.
Everyone has their own preferences and some will pay more, some will pay less. Pay attention to some of the reviews and you'll see what I mean.
I am also considering the General Altimax HP (guessing that my Michelins will need to be replaced at about 39K). Because of living in Colorado, I am currently leaning to the Goodyear Triple Tread model. It also is an H rated tire, so no more 140mph runs, but I am looking for an all weather, high mileage tire. The Goodyear's are more than the Generals but needing a tire that works reasonably well in snow is important to me, as I don't want to have both a winter and summer set, as some like to do.
One thing that may not be good is their "B" temperature rating.
Being that their treadwear rating is so high and therefore their tread compound so hard, they might get rather noisy towards the end of their tread life. :confuse:
I'm dealing with the a few of the same problems other 2006 Azera Ltd owners are having with the struts, rotors and tire replacement with my dealership right now. Because the tires were cupping so bad (had already had rotors replaced twice and struts once since I bought the car), I was caught having to BUY tires from them. They were the Kumho ones that were referenced by another poster. I don't like them, I hear lot of road noise, which I didn't hear with the Hankook that were on the car when I bought the car used in 10/2007. If I hadn't been stuck, I would have gone to some place like Discount Tire to get another brand.
I too was thinking about those Generals as the reviews were great.
Quick update,
Went to the dealer and had my struts checked. Nothing is wrong with them so I assume it was a misalignment, imbalanace and so yes, However they wouldn't be the ultimate hustlers if they didn't try to get me to pay a million dollars for something. I went in last week for a oil change and then told me that I need new front and rear brakes. they wanted $730. I said okay thanks, I'll get them done :P Then I went to m new local mechanic, and he did them for $192 with me buying my own parts. Needless to say I hate my dealer and they're the ultimate hustlers
I'm going to purchase those Generals and see.
Thanks for all your help thus far. I'll let you know how it goes
Wow!!! It's amazing how some service departments will try to pimp you.
I asked how much it would cost for me to get my front brakes replaced and was told $260. I then asked how much the pads were from them (no aftermarkets were available at the time) and they said $75. I calmly went to the parts department, bought a pair, took them home and in 30 mins replaced my front pads. It really is THAT simple to do if you really want to.
Don't believe that your rotors must be turned every single time, unless you're hard on your brakes or something else with your wheels has messed up your rotors. If you can apply your brakes and not feel any feedback (vibration, shimmy or anything like that), your rotors are fine. Turning rotors is where they get you with the cost because it takes a machine like an hour to turn each rotor. If I can replace a pair of pads in 30 mins. with a floor jack, I can imagine how much faster it would be if I had a car lift.
$192 is a pretty good price to pay a mechanic for replacing both front and rear brakes...if turning was included.
Please let me know what you think of the General tires as I'll be replacing my tires soon.
As a benchmark for anyone with the original Hankook Optimo tires- my 2006 Azera SE is approaching 50K miles with just under a 1/4 inch of rubber left. I should be able to get somewhere between 55K and 60K on the original tires without any cupping or excessive edge wear. Front brakes haven't been replaced yet either but my mechanic thinks it may be required around the 60K mark.
You must be a very light driver. I replaced my front pads at about 35K miles and the rear pads shortly after at around 37K miles. The fronts I replaced with OEM Hyundai pads and have, again replaced them at around 52K miles with some Akebono ceramic pads. The rears were replaced with Monroe ceramics and are still going strong.
The tires...I have the OEM Michelin's and I'm waiting to wear those out so I can change them to the General Altimax tires that I've heard some good things about. However, subtracting the mileage I've put on my aftermarket tires (about 25K) I've put about 32K miles on the OEM tires and they are in pretty good shape.
85 miles every workday with 60% highway and 40% around town. This is an SE and not a Limited and I have to say that I have not experienced the problems that came with the Limited's Michelin lower profile tires, the vehicle is also slightly lighter than the Limited.The highway driving is generally fast on I-80 and I-287 and I thought these tires and rims would breakdown fast considering the amount of potholes that they have hit at hi speed. I do tend to use the transmission's down shifting capability as much as possible rather than using the brakes.I can only compliment Hyundai for the fact that both tires, brakes and rims have held up exceptionally well in adverse conditions.
The road noise from the tires are pretty acceptable. I turn off the radio and it is barely a low hum on highways. The 07 Sonata on the other hand that I own definitely gets more road noise by the tires.
Donna388...you are probably right, but my posting really just covered the 2006 models before the GLS model came out. In 2006 only the SE and the Limited existed and the SE's got the Hankooks and the Limited's got the Michelins.
General Altimax HPs - I just had a set of 4 put on last week. My car was at approximately 33,000 miles, but I bought it used at 30,000 and one of the tires appeared to be a replacement and had no tread, so I went with 4 new ones. I saw you were looking at the altimax HPs and read up on them a little bit.
It has only been a week, but I am completely satisfied to this point. I can tell the ride is much smoother, the steering feels a bit more responsive, and they have a pretty cool looking tread design. There were some comments about road noise in the reviews I read. There is the slightest of hum that I can notice, but I do not think it is any louder than the Michelin tires the Azera came with.
The mechanic that put them on said they are a pretty popular set of tires, going on many different cars.
Finally changed out my original Michelin's at 40,800. Fronts were toast, backs had some left, but not worth saving, since I want to do all 4 at a time.
Put on Firestone Winterforce tires 245-55-17 with all four studded. Planning on new wheels and Altimax tires next spring. Having all four studded tires worked great this morning in very icy and snowy conditions. Discount Tire did the tires for right at $500.
my azera is now 2 years and 58000 miles old; i live in cleveland ohio. first winter seemed ok but this winter has been no fun as i find myself fighting a serious traction problem in the snow.
problem is best described by lateral slippage perhaps in the rear. what i have done as an interim partial fix is new tires in the rear and 160 pounds of water softener pellets in the trunk. also in the rain and snow i use the 'manual' shift to keep the rpm high in a lower gear. but still don't have a comfortable feeling of security when the roads are slippery as in the rain and snow.
what else can i do for better traction? is there a front-to-rear weight balance problem? is there a suspension problem with azera that i need to fix by stiffening it? should i use snow tires in the front?
My '06 Azera spent its first winter on the stock tires, and was OK, but not great. Now our southeastern Michigan winters are spent on Michelin Alpin winter tires in the stock size ( 235/55-17 ) . Traction is greatly improved in snow and ice conditions, and dry pavement is not too bad either. They ride a bit stiffer and are slightly noisier than the stockers, but it's a very reasonable tradeoff.
Last weekend we made a short freeway trip that included a section with blowing snow which had turned to black ice. People were fishtailing all over the place and there were about ten cars in ditches and the median in a stretch of 3 or 4 miles. Our Azera had no problem - neither traction control nor ESC ever activated, and we could have passed everyone on the road if we had been so inclined.
I'm sure any major brand winter tire would perform as well...but, I hear availibility is down and price is up on winter tires due to Quebec mandating their use on all cars. Tire Rack is a good source as is Discount Tire. Good luck.
We have fitted the Michelin Alpins on all four corners. The tires offer a dramatic improvement in winter traction, and handling could be adversely affected if not installed on all wheels. We had the stock all season tires mounted on custom chrome wheels and have the winter Alpins on the Azera stock wheels. We purchased the Alpins from Discount tire, and they do the wheel/tire switch twice a year for free - no need to ever pay for tire rotation that way either.
I have over 52,000 miles on the original Michelin tires and have started to have a lot more ESC action so it is time to get new tires. I didn't have any of the problems posted here with the original tires and are looking at replacing them with Michelin Primacy MXV4 tires with a 60K mile warranty. I live outside of Chicago and this winter has been very snowy- i am so glad this car has ESC!
anyone have comments on the Michelin Primacy vs the Energy tires?
Has anyone replaced their original Michelins with a tire with considerable LESS road noise? If so, which make of tire? I am still not satisfied with my Azera Limited with respect to noise in the cabin.
Grayfox...I can't recall if it was this forum or the Azera forum over at Hyundai-Forums where someone mentioned replacing their Michelins with General Altimax HP's and said they were much quieter and offered better performance as well. They've got them at TireRack.com for $108/ea.
Thanks Allmet, I think I saw that posting too. I have checked the ratings on Tire Rack, I think it was, and was interested in Good Year Comfortred or one like it. One of them only comes in the Azera Limited size. I am not particularly interested in performance but rather just a quiet ride since I only put about 6 to 7,000 miles a year on my car and dont have a need to push it hard.
Grayfox...be sure to do a comparison. After doing my research on the Altimax HP's, they too offer a low-density foundation compound that absorbs road vibrations to provide a comfortable ride (something like the design of the Comfor Tred. I mentioned the performance aspect because the poster had mentioned the he felt the car handled better with the Altimax HP's as opposed to the OEM Michelins (better cornering, better grip wet/dry). Not necessarily in reference to pushing the car, just in general performance terms.
Both tires get very good reviews from those that have bought them (with the Altimax HP's edging out the Comfor Treds if you take it to the numbers). Currently, they are offering a $40 mail-in rebate if you buy 4 of the Goodyear Comfor Tred's, but in the end (after rebate), the Goodyears are still gonna end up being $60 more than the Altimax HP's (without a rebate). In the end, it boils down to what you feel more comfortable with. Whatever your decision, please post your results after you've gotten them put on.
Since my Michelin tires were 'chunking' badly, I upgraded from the Michelin MXV4 tires 235/55R17 to Federal "595" ultra-high performance tires 255/50R17! Excellent traction and handling in wet and dry, low cost, quiet, smooth ride, and great looking directional tread!
The front tires on my '06 Limited will need to be replaced soon, and I intend to go with the Dunlops that are fitted to the Genesis. I've had excellent results with Dunlops over the years, and they're considerably less expensive than Michelins. Also, Michelins are nice and quiet when new, but get noisy as they age. I don't know why this is. And another thing - my Azera came with a matching alloy wheel and tire for a spare. This may be standard for the Limited.
Freezing when it hits the cold windshield, or in the lines and reservoir? I'd try a more expensive brand of fluid. IMO, you probably can't blame Hyundai for that one.
If you're area is THAT frigid, the typical run of the mill washer fluid won't do you any good. It's not an Azera issue, it's the fact your fluid has too much water content in it. Look for a more expensive washer fluid made for more frigid temps and you'll be fine.
Have 22,000 miles on My 07 azera. Tires were always very quiet( have the dreaded Michelins). However , today the rotated the tires and I have notice that they are now very noisy. So I am having them rotate them back the way they were. I had an issue with slight vibration in the steering wheel which is gone now. I will have the two fron tires re balanced whrn they move them back and then just run them until they wear out. Strange. Maybe the rear tires got cupped. I did have the front shocks replace twice.Never have had this kind of problem before.
Just took off my 4 studded Winterforce tires for the summer. They were great to have had on this winter. No matter the conditions, they worked great. I anticipate them going on again in October.
For summer, I am going with the fairly new Goodyear Eagle GT (235-55-17). It is an all season performance tire, 40K warranty and W speed rating. All four mounted and balanced were $615 at my local Discount Tire location. I now have almost 52K on my 07 Azera Ltd. and it still is performing perfectly. I am averaging 24+ mpg. and have had no problems.
I just ordered 4 new tires for my '06 Azera. I ordered the General Altimax HP's ($476 delivered from www.TireRack.com). I'll get them put on by this weekend and post a review of how they are in comparison to the OEM Michelins.
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So any recommendations on the type of replacements. I don't mind th OEm's but wanted some equally as good (quality wise) and if I could save a few bucks that'll help.
I was thinking of the Toyo proxes TPT. Has anyone replaced their tires to NON-Michelin? Thanks again!!
You might consider these at the TireRack:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Compare1.jsp?width=235%2F&ratio=55&diameter=17&sta- - rtIndex=0&search=true&pagelen=20&pagenum=1&pagemark=1&manufacturer=Kumho&speed_r- - ating=V&speed_rating=Z&speed_rating=W&speed_rating=Y&RunFlat=None&x=76&y=12
Less expensive and one has quite a long tread life.
The Kumho Solus KH16 are standard equipment (OEM) on the GLS models with the 16 inch wheels.
When my Michelins are worn out, I will not spent their price (over $200 now!) to replace them.
There are better tires available for less dinero.
Happy hunting!
An even better and less expensive tire from Tirerack for your consideration:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/CompareTires.jsp?sortValue=1&displayResults=5&comp- are=true&compareList=0&goWhere=%252Ftires%252FCompare1.jsp&sortCode=&width=235%2- F&ratio=55&diameter=17&manufacturer=Pirelli&startIndex=0
Pirelli PZero Nero M&S PINNA
(Ultra High Performance All-Season)
Size: 235/55ZR17
Modified tread for Mustang OE
Serv. Desc: 98W Load Index 98 = 1653lbs (750kg) per tire
Speed Rating “W” = 168mph (270kph)
UTQG: Treadwear: 400 Traction: AA Temperature: A
For only $91 plus shipping, how can anyone go wrong? :surprise:
I went on Tire Rack's website looking for a possible replacement for the OEM Michelins on my Azera now...
So far, the ones that have my attention are the General Altimax HP's...they seem to have some great reviews with a great overall rating.
General Altimax HP (Grand Touring All-Season)
Size: 235/55HR17
Serv. Desc: 99H Load Index 99 = 1709lbs (775kg) per tire
Speed Rating “H” = 130mph (210kph)
UTQG: Treadwear: 440 Traction: A Temperature: A
Price: $102.00 (each)
You'll pay $11 more for an H rated tire that is most likely not as good as the Pirelli? :confuse:
$91 for an Ultra-high performance All-Season tire means it's bottom of the barrel for that line. The General Altimax is a Grand Touring All-Season and the 440 rating means it should also wear longer, which makes sense since the Pirelli PZero is W-speed rated...yeah, I'll pay $11 more for the type of tire I really need.
Everyone has their own preferences and some will pay more, some will pay less. Pay attention to some of the reviews and you'll see what I mean.
We agree on something at least! :surprise:
One thing that may not be good is their "B" temperature rating.
Being that their treadwear rating is so high and therefore their tread compound
so hard, they might get rather noisy towards the end of their tread life. :confuse:
140 mph at your altitude? Not bad.
Quick update,
Went to the dealer and had my struts checked. Nothing is wrong with them so I assume it was a misalignment, imbalanace and so yes, However they wouldn't be the ultimate hustlers if they didn't try to get me to pay a million dollars for something. I went in last week for a oil change and then told me that I need new front and rear brakes. they wanted $730. I said okay thanks, I'll get them done :P Then I went to m new local mechanic, and he did them for $192 with me buying my own parts. Needless to say I hate my dealer and they're the ultimate hustlers
I'm going to purchase those Generals and see.
Thanks for all your help thus far. I'll let you know how it goes
I asked how much it would cost for me to get my front brakes replaced and was told $260. I then asked how much the pads were from them (no aftermarkets were available at the time) and they said $75. I calmly went to the parts department, bought a pair, took them home and in 30 mins replaced my front pads. It really is THAT simple to do if you really want to.
Don't believe that your rotors must be turned every single time, unless you're hard on your brakes or something else with your wheels has messed up your rotors. If you can apply your brakes and not feel any feedback (vibration, shimmy or anything like that), your rotors are fine. Turning rotors is where they get you with the cost because it takes a machine like an hour to turn each rotor. If I can replace a pair of pads in 30 mins. with a floor jack, I can imagine how much faster it would be if I had a car lift.
$192 is a pretty good price to pay a mechanic for replacing both front and rear brakes...if turning was included.
Please let me know what you think of the General tires as I'll be replacing my tires soon.
The tires...I have the OEM Michelin's and I'm waiting to wear those out so I can change them to the General Altimax tires that I've heard some good things about. However, subtracting the mileage I've put on my aftermarket tires (about 25K) I've put about 32K miles on the OEM tires and they are in pretty good shape.
No, not the 2007 SEs. Those came with Michelin S8s.
The 2007 SE and Limiteds had Michelins and only Michelins.
The only Azeras that used the Hankook brand were the models that had
the 16 inch 5-spoke wheels such as the 2007 GLSs with 225/60-16s.
All 2008 and later models have 17 inch Michelins.
There are no longer SE models, only GLS and Limiteds.
It has only been a week, but I am completely satisfied to this point. I can tell the ride is much smoother, the steering feels a bit more responsive, and they have a pretty cool looking tread design. There were some comments about road noise in the reviews I read. There is the slightest of hum that I can notice, but I do not think it is any louder than the Michelin tires the Azera came with.
The mechanic that put them on said they are a pretty popular set of tires, going on many different cars.
Put on Firestone Winterforce tires 245-55-17 with all four studded. Planning on new wheels and Altimax tires next spring. Having all four studded tires worked great this morning in very icy and snowy conditions. Discount Tire did the tires for right at $500.
problem is best described by lateral slippage perhaps in the rear. what i have done as an interim partial fix is new tires in the rear and 160 pounds of water softener pellets in the trunk. also in the rain and snow i use the 'manual' shift to keep the rpm high in a lower gear. but still don't have a comfortable feeling of security when the roads are slippery as in the rain and snow.
what else can i do for better traction? is there a front-to-rear weight balance problem? is there a suspension problem with azera that i need to fix by stiffening it? should i use snow tires in the front?
need help!
manohar
Last weekend we made a short freeway trip that included a section with blowing snow which had turned to black ice. People were fishtailing all over the place and there were about ten cars in ditches and the median in a stretch of 3 or 4 miles.
Our Azera had no problem - neither traction control nor ESC ever activated, and we could have passed everyone on the road if we had been so inclined.
I'm sure any major brand winter tire would perform as well...but, I hear availibility is down and price is up on winter tires due to Quebec mandating their use on all cars.
Tire Rack is a good source as is Discount Tire. Good luck.
question, did you invest in just 2 or 4 snow tires? and did you get the rims too?
We had the stock all season tires mounted on custom chrome wheels and have the winter Alpins on the Azera stock wheels. We purchased the Alpins from Discount tire, and they do the wheel/tire switch twice a year for free - no need to ever pay for tire rotation that way either.
anyone have comments on the Michelin Primacy vs the Energy tires?
Both tires get very good reviews from those that have bought them (with the Altimax HP's edging out the Comfor Treds if you take it to the numbers). Currently, they are offering a $40 mail-in rebate if you buy 4 of the Goodyear Comfor Tred's, but in the end (after rebate), the Goodyears are still gonna end up being $60 more than the Altimax HP's (without a rebate). In the end, it boils down to what you feel more comfortable with. Whatever your decision, please post your results after you've gotten them put on.
http://www.federaltire.com/en/html/pdetail.php?DB=motosports&pdline=1&ID=1#
https://www.tiresavings.com
From 98H to 101V. Diameter 27.2 to 27.1. Width 9.4 to 10.4. 400AA to 260AA. Cost $149 to $108. PSI 30 to 28.
has anyone elae experienced this and does anyone have a fix?
For summer, I am going with the fairly new Goodyear Eagle GT (235-55-17). It is an all season performance tire, 40K warranty and W speed rating. All four mounted and balanced were $615 at my local Discount Tire location. I now have almost 52K on my 07 Azera Ltd. and it still is performing perfectly. I am averaging 24+ mpg. and have had no problems.
How can this be? Won't the filter get dirty over time and need replacement?
Please advise.
Manohar