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I'll take the extra grunt, no doubt, but a 0-60 time under 8 seconds is not a priority for a vehicle with a mission to carry a family around in comfort.
It was fine before. Should be more than fine now. :shades:
The C&D write-up is gone, and that video on YouTube is now marked private.
Watch it now, folks, before this one's gone! LOL
I just tried and both the C&D link and that YouTube video are both not working. :sick:
I captured the torque curve, if others missed it.
Bob
Are you sure? Even the 5+2?
I'm devastated.
Looks like Hyundai is the only one that still offers heated cloth on my short list.
I'm bummed. That's a lot of disappointments:
* SAC do not protect the 3rd row
* cloth seats no longer heated
* 10-15% fuel economy gains vanished
* small gas tank didn't get any bigger
* prices aren't really down, they de-contented instead
An 09 Forester keeps looking better and better.
Until you try to stuff the neighbor's children in! :P
Charlie
I'm holding out hope for a red or burgundy.
Bob
In fact, that's the plan. We picked up a minivan, and will shop for a Forester a year from now.
More pixs here:
http://www.cars101.com/subaru/tribeca/tribeca2008photos.html
Bob
:P
If you come across media, a forum post in this instance that seems helpful to you and you feel others should know about click one or more of those icons and promote it on that site. Others will then be able to link back to Edmunds and read what you are referring them too.
Although I did want the original controversial design which I like very much, looks like it's not going to happen since my Murano's lease ends March '08, but who cares? I drive inside the car anyway
I think Murano was the pioneer in the urban SUV trend and Subaru took it to the next level.
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/FullTests/articleId=121001?tid=edmunds.il.home.photopanel..1.*
Bob
Oh, and slightly better mileage on cheaper gas.
Edit: yes, the grille does resemble Chrysler's, but so what? It's not unattractive, and the rest of the package (shoulder lines, concave surfaces) make it look unique overall.
Remember, this was supposed to be a Saab.
They say the CX9 is sportier, but I disagree. I drove them within a week or two of each other. The CX9 is very large, it feels big, and far from sporty. I liked it, don't get me wrong, but the Tribeca feels a lot more nimble and manageable in size.
Premium is not required.
you get a noticeable amount of power increase with premium.
Mostly noticeable at low RPM, off the line and hot weather.
Freeway driving- probably won't make a difference as you're at higher RPM.
Some have noticed a fuel economy difference, others not. Probably depends on if your foot uses that extra power or not.
I didn't ask him to see that notice.
Not to mention, they've been going to a great extent to tout the fact that the 08s run on regular octane, and keep pointing out that the outgoing model preferred premium.
They did say all along that regular was OK, but premium was recommended. David Sullivan's slide show on the new H6 went as far as to mention that the new one makes more power with less octane.
Maybe it's all in how you interpret the rules. You can use regular, sure, but you will give up a few horses.
When the H6 came out, it made 212hp on premium fuel. Subaru officially stated the engine made 208hp on 87 octane, so you gave up 4hp.
If they officially declare regular fuel is "recommeded", then they would have to officially re-state the HP figures. The 3.0l does not make the full 245hp on 87 octane, that's just common sense.
I think the new Tribeca's 0-60 time improves from lethargic to adequate. IMHO, the '08 Tribeca's conservative styling and average performance will not be an easy sell against the dozen or so other $25 -$35K CUV's on the market. As a consumer, you gotta love all this competition, though. I smell big factory incentives from all the CUV manufacturers by August/September.
From that point of view, the 2008 may not be in a much better position overall. Especially in terms of interior space.
The CX9, Veracruz, Enclave/Acadia/Outlook are all much roomier. Customers shopping for space will pick those over a Tribeca.
Subaru will compete more with the Murano, FX35, MDX, RX350, and Highlander, on the smaller end of the scale. If we're talking the sporty end, remove Highlander and RX, basically.
So the buyers are going to the dealerships empty handed. My neighbor is in the market and hasn't heard about a bigger Subaru than the Outback.
if I were the SOA CEO, people would be changing places in New Jersey.
Now we're being inundated with sporty crossovers, but most of them are in the midsize category offering more room than the Forester, and at the same time the FXT is getting a little long in the tooth (although the 2008 Cross Sports version with the STI wheels is HOT).
I'm pretty sure that if the Forester grows any with the 2009 redesign, which it undoubtedly will, we'll see the XT stacked up against the likes of the CX7, RDX, and V6 Rav4.
Toss in a Vue Redline while you're at it. Maybe even a BMW X3 on the high end? Nah, too expensive.
The seats are TO DIE FOR. Very soft, glove-like leather, absolutely coddles the passengers. Plus it has good space.
As a passenger I may pick a Veracruz, but the Tribeca is the better driver for sure.
Until public perception catches up with the Hyundai brand's improvements she may be wiser than we think - ALG still rates the Hyundai Entourage we considered at just 1 star, i.e. worst possible residuals scores.
The scary part is they mean as a % of what people actually pay. They are an Edmunds partner, so they use TMV, not MSRP.