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http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=44
I don't know which type the Genesis has but my complaint (in my January 28th post) is that it definitely does not have the good kind that gives you a diagram showing the PSI of each tire. My last car was also an Acura TL and I checked the pressures shown on its diagram (using a digital guage) and found it to be very accurate. The Acura system is the best!
There was also an ad for the coupe, showing a yellow coupe being flung around a racetrack. Obviously aimed at a younger demographic than ads for the sedan.
My TPMS light came on for a specific tire and I took it in. The dealer hooked the computer up to the car and the car reported the PSI for each tire. (so it knows the PSI, unfortunately it doesn't show the number on the dash, only the tires that are too low) Also all my tires were below 33, but only one was low enough to trigger the warning, so I can understand why it would be nice to know the exact PSI.
illiustrates the influence of individual perspective and predisposition, I guess.
At least according to an ESPN talk show this morning (I don't know whose 'ratings' they (Mike and Mike) were talking about) , the Hyundai ads you reference rated at the bottom of all the Super Bowl ads - the Doritos ads at the top of the heap - at least in terms of 'funny'.
Maybe a better word for the Hyundai ad is "clever." It wasn't rip-roaring funny, more tongue-in-cheek funny. But there were better ads on the Super Bowl for sure.
http://consumerguideauto.howstuffworks.com/2010-hyundai-genesis.htm
My personal opinion (and wish) is that the Lambda RS engine developed for the Genesis Coupe would be further massaged (turbocharging or direct-injecting) and a V6 Genesis Sedan RS version made available (the target powerplant may be the new Z's 332 hp V6). The reasons why I think this may be done: 1) The V6 Genesis offers a better F/R weight ratio, and any suspension tuning will be more readily reflected in the car's handling characteristics; and 2) other notable manufacturers are focusing on bumping up their smaller engines (BMW's upcoming M5 will have a turbo v-8 rather than a v-10).
BTW, I thought the Lambda RS engine's output was 303-306 hp; the article below indicates 310 - is this due only to using premium fuel, or Hyundai's reaction to the new Mustang (315-hp 4.6-liter V8)?
http://www.motorauthority.com/hyundai-working-closely-with-tuner-scene-for-new-g- - - - enesis-coupe.html
As far as the massaging of the powerplant...don't hold your breath. I think that is the main reason that Hyundai has already made the Genesis Coupe available to the aftermarket houses to create bolt on parts for the Coupe. The 4 cyl. model will likely see more aftermarket pieces than the V-6 version, but I'm sure a super/turbo charger of some sort will be available for the V-6.
As far as hp numbers go, it could very well be the numbers based on premium fuel. The 303 hp figure will most likely be what the output is using regular with a nice little boost with premium. The Genesis Sedan 3.8 puts out 368 hp using regular and 375 hp on premium.
At its core, this top-line Genesis SE coupe is powered by Hyundai's 24-valve, 3.8-liter Lambda V6, which produces 299 horsepower at 6,300 rpm and delivers 266 pound-feet of torque at 4,700 rpm. A ZF-built 6HP26 six-speed transmission sends the power to the rear wheels.
First Drive: 2010 Genesis Coupe
Hyundai Heading to Market with 8-Speed Tranny/a>
Hyundai to Offer Sync-like Infotainment System
I actually like any car that is different from the same old Toyota and Nissan I am sick of looking at them as there are so many on the road.
USA TODAY assembled 288 adult volunteers in Portland, Ore., and McLean, Va., to measure their reactions to ads that ran during the Super Bowl.
I don't know if that was a representation of the broader audience.
FWIW, I thought "Angry Bosses" ad was hilarious. Advertising Age has a good write up of all of the ads, including car ads like the Hyundai one:
http://adage.com/superbowl09/article?article_id=134248
On that note, other Hyundai models will receive HD radio in the near future.
One slight correction to my statement that the culprit causing the persistent battery drain problem was "a defective switch" under the hood. I had my car in for a routine service yesterday and the service manager told me that the switch was not defective but rather had slipped out of place. That caused it not to be depressed when the hood was closed. All they had to do was to adjust the switch to its correct angle.
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Yes - for all it's greatness, the Genesis suffers from some suspension issues that are very well documented and discussed over at the Hyundai Genesis Owners Forum (I strongly suggest any owner to monitor that site).
I was just driving to my daughter's gym class and lamenting how bumpy the ride was. It greatly detracts from what should and could be a fantastic driving experience. Don't get me wrong, everything about this car screams excellence, but I hate the fact that my stomach gets jarred on non-perfect roads.
There has been talk of some type of recall or retrofit on the horizon, but that is more hope than fact.
After owning the car <2 weeks, we took a 1300 mile trip to S. CA which got us on some major roads w/bumps & potholes & made us realize the harsh ride problem. The rough ride home back to the Bay Area on I-5 w/its many potholes, caused my sciatica to become a problem for the 1st time in many yrs.
After searching the internet for solutions (sans luck), I took it to my 30+ yr tire dealer & asked what he might be able to do. He said he could put on his softest tire, & drop the tire pressure a few PSI, & said I probably wouldn't be able to discern any difference.
The dealer, nor their regional service tech or sales mgr were aware of any fixes.
To avoid further problems w/my sciatica, we took the car to the dealer to sell on consignment.
It's been a huge disappointment to us because I've been following this car since it was 1st announced, & we were anxious to get 1 when it arrived. It is such a great car in about every respect.
I've read that when the Genesis was introduced in Korea, it had adjustable air suspension (air bags which you could change pressure), but they wanted a different suspension for the American mkt.
My current car is a 1998 740i which is great for our many trips to S. CA to see family & friends, & I was hoping to replace it w/the Genesis. :-(
Check also Madison Ross Media sight with a separate thread on suspension complaints.So far Hyundai has chosen to ignore.
Shame on them, when the Genesis bounces out of control and kills people, they will make a recall.
In my opinion, they are the worst auto maker re:service and customer relations in the entire market......and I've told them !
A suspension that is firmer or bumpier than someone prefers is one thing. Talking about a car "bouncing out of control and killing people" is something else. I've driven the Genesis. I've read many professional reviews of the Genesis. Is the ride firm? Yes, that seems to be a consensus opinion. Is it anywhere close to bouncing out of control and killing people? No.
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20090211/AUTOS_car_year_0902- 11/20090211?s_name=Autos
Shoot - and I was hopeful for the Genesis.
Unfortunately I can't wait until a new model or even a mid-model refresh (to address these 2 QC/design issues) to come out before I buy. Back to Toyota & Honda.
I also don't know if you can find a car from Toyota or Honda on the same level as the Genesis, assuming Lexus is excluded (I skipped Acura on purpose
You're also right about the quietness of the cabin as well, without the spectacular sound system...you might end up dozing off to sleep if you're not careful! LOL
We're not talking harsh, firm ride, you can live with that-joe97-allmet - et al
Oh yeah...an experienced driver would know how to handle a particular road, don't you think?
We're not talking harsh, firm ride, you can live with that-joe97-allmet - et al
I would add that on a road with large bumps and potholes that could be unsafe (and I know some like that in my town, which can blow tires and destroy rims and control arms etc.), 70 mph would not be a safe speed--for the Genesis or anything else.
I'm sure you're right about a fact such as that, but...no editors have complained about the suspension in the manner you are suggesting. At worst they have said that the suspension isn't what they would like or expect, but it is hardly a bad suspension. That is something that has been pretty consistent with every review that any publication or otherwise has come up with.
I think you need to tone it down buddy, stop being overly dramatic.
And if some inexperienced drivers by chance chose the wrong road and trying to get to the right one, they should not be dirving at 70mph in the first place, regardless of car model, regardless of which lane to get on the exit ramp, or at the exit ramp, etc...
Is it due for a change?
Any answers you my have will be greatly appreciated.
Personally, I change my own oil (I own an Azera) with Castrol Syntec and I follow the 7500 mile schedule (for the most part). Doing it yourself will not void the warranty.
To answer your question...go with your gut and what makes you feel at ease. There will be some that will say no, wait till the 7500 miles, some will say yes. In the end, an oil change could never hurt at any time because an engine always loves fresh oil.
Have you read all the many complaints with regard to this defective suspension.
Till you read "Madison Ross Media" treads and Edmunds relating to suspension complaints.
Don't make a statement that it's not unsafe.
My agenda is to have Hyundai respond to all these many "owner complaints"
and give it a fix [recall] rather than ignore it. As they have to date !
After you see all the numerous complaints with hyundai's denial it exists,
maybe you will realize there may be something wrong with you !
Furthermore, if I have saved one person from buying Genesis until they resolve this problem, I saved them my grief. check how many have returned or sold already due to this defect.
It's funny how you talk about ALL the complaints, but if you look at the customer review section in Edmunds in regards to the Genesis....it has a customer rating of 9.4. Does that reflect every owner out there, no...it does not. Just as the site you mention with the complaints doesn't reflect all the Genesis owners out there either.
If the problem were as drastic as you make it out to be, then why hasn't it made the news yet? Remember when the small SUV's had the problem of tipping easily, it made the news quickly since it was a safety hazard (to say the least). I would think this would qualify as such if it were indeed as horrific as you make it out to be.
Lastly, how do you really think anyone can go and check how many Genesis have been returned, traded in or gotten rid of simply because of this "suspension issue"?
I hate to say it, you're starting to sound like this other guy in another forum by the name of Snaglepus. He swears up and down that every single Azera on the road has the same suspension issue his does, but since everybody isn't complaining about it, then we are either too ignorant to know better or we are in denial.
The other scenario would be to have an assistant sit in the passenger seat with the video camera while Stanco navigates some terrible stretch of road somewhere at 70+ mph. I see a case for an Oscar nomination in the making here! LOL How easy it would be to jump around in the seat to make it seem like the car is simply just tossing him around like a rag doll. The special effect will be getting the steering wheel to actually yank violently from his grasp.
Yeah...I'm really interested to see this video clip! Good idea Tenpin!!! :shades: