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For improved vehicle performance, NISSAN recommends
the use of unleaded premium gasoline
with an octane rating of at least 91 AKI number
(Research octane number 96).
Page 9-3 of 2006 Nissan Altima Owner's Manual
2005 Toyota Avalon Performance & Efficiency Standard Features
- 3,456 cc 3.5 liters V 6 front engine with 94 mm bore, 83 mm stroke, 10.8 compression ratio, double overhead cam, variable valve timing/camshaft and four valves per cylinder 2GR-FE
- Premium unleaded fuel 91
- Fuel economy EPA highway (mpg): 31 and EPA city (mpg): 22
- Multi-point injection fuel system
- 18.5 gallon main premium unleaded fuel tank
- Power: 209 kW , 280 HP SAE @ 6,200 rpm; 260 ft lb , 353 Nm @ 4,700 rpm
Incidentally, the GM 3.6 recommends premium as well in the CTS.
I'm sorry, but the clear meaning of that sentence, as written in that two sentence paragraph, is that Honda had 3 vehicles in the top 10 in March. There is absolutely no indication that they are talking about anything other than March sales, in the paragraph. If they wanted the meaning that you are giving it, then they should have written it differently. Either way, while a minor mistake, it is poor editing.
Are we done now?
Many of these newer V6s BTW courtesy of these more advanced engine control systems can and will run quite well on lower octanes and further can effectively use the higher octanes. For those folks out there that might have a new 3.3 in a Sonata and want a few extra HP simply put in the higher octane gas although I doubt that any normal driver will notice the difference if he/she is not on a dragstrip.
As far as the CTS is concerned, I'm not sure how flexible that engine really is and/or how much the direct injection effects this flexiblility but it is a good engine that obviously runs fine on regular in the Malibu (and several other GM vehicles) and likely would do the same at least in the lower performance Caddys.
this would seemingly only make sense although my observation is that the HP difference is as inconsequential as the Camry/ES rating difference would seem to say it is and further that there is even less difference in FE. I have a suspicion that once we get into some of this direct injection stuff found in the 2GR-FSE IS350 Lexus for example and FTM in those wonderful high performance German engines that the engine's tolerance for the lower octane stuff may be limited. Somehow I can't imagine that somebody willing to pay a premium for the privilege of driving cars like that are really too concerned about 30 or 40 cents a gallon, and those mfgrs. know that.
http://www.autoobserver.com/2008/05/april-car-sales.html#more
As U.S. consumers definitively reacted to $3.50-a-gallon gasoline, passenger cars outsold truck-based vehicles for the first time in at least 20 years. The move comprised a shift of six percentage points for the industry compared with last April, to 54 percent car sales.
Demand for cars rose 5 percent, to at least 655,000 units in April, compared with 2007, while sales of light trucks – including pickups, traditional SUVs, car-based crossovers, and minivans – plummeted by more than 17 percent, to about 716,000 from 591,000.
Specifically mentions increased sales for several mid-sizes: Malibu, Fusion, Camry, Altima, Sonata
Sorry,
It seems you don't mind pointing out errors you think someone else made, but don't like it when someone points out your own. If you live in a glass house,.....
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I couldn't help but laugh when I read it. edmunds has always had a bias toward the accord, but this takes the cake. they actually post incorrect sales figures so they can write an article about how wonderful and loved the new accord is
despite its consitient monthly decreases in sales.I guess when you don't like reality, you just change it.
So I wonder if they are consistent and count the Matrix separately from the Corolla?
and the better question would be, if they count the coupe version (and probably the hybrid) separately with the camry, why not the accord?
Regards:
OldCEM
the part I found amusing was more the reaction here. the way people declared that honda really was right in making it bigger, and it just took people a little longer to "warm up" to it. when in reality the assumptions are based on misleading, if not false, numbers. And in the end, the 2008 accord is selling worse than the 2007.
While the model name is the reason, they certainly should have at least mentioned this. Dare I suggest that this is another sign of poor editing/writing
Not that it would change "best selling model", but this problem is not limited to the Solara issue. GM, Ford, and Chrysler often have multiple versions of the same vehicle. Should Fusion, Milan, and MKZ be added together? Should Malibu and it's siblings be added together? Sebring and Avenger?
http://www.mazda.ca/root.asp
Many are apparently trading pick ups for small cars, that would get double the mpg or better, though. They'd likely be saving $100-200 per month on gas at the current price.
All midsize cars are selling well right now, so I think many truck and SUV owners are switching to them. They still want something roomy, comfortable, and relatively powerful, so the V6 models are doing very well. Someone who's been driving a Tahoe, is not likely to go all the way down to an Aveo.
Now at last one pickup is on the top-10 trade-in list for nearly every small car model, according to George Pipas, chief U.S. sales analyst for Ford.
Midsize sales are up, but so are small cars, the ones I see mentioned are:
Chevrolet Aveo +23 percent in April
Focus +44%
Yaris +58%
Mazda3 +15%
Even Edmund's TMV uses a different purchase price than the TOC price. Quite puzzling.
Have a look for yourselves. The lower center console is different on Nav and Non-Nav model. Push button is on the center console of the Navigation model, traditional key is found on the lower side of the steering column.
Not crazy about the "blonde" wood trim.
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/20/new-york-2008-suzuki-unveils-kizashi-3-concep- - t-coming-in-2010/
The Kizashi 3 is a tad smaller than a Mazda6 but slightly larger than a BMW 3 Series sedan and will be powered by a (front or all-wheel drive) 2.5 inline-four or a 260 hp 3.6-liter DOHC V6 engine derived from GM’s high-feature V-6, the same engine found in the Cadillac CTS and Malibu. Base prices will start in the $21,000-to-$28,000 price range.
The Kizashi 3 will sit on 110.2-inch wheelbase identical to the Honda Accord. The new sedan will spawn a wagon version and a crossover to replace the current XL7.
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/New-York-2008-Suzuki-Kizashi-3-concept-reveal- ed_154702.htm
The previous Suzuki mid-sizer, the Verona, wasn't competitive. This new design looks on paper to be fully competitive. So I think that is a good thing--yet another option for mid-sized sedan buyers, and a Japanese-made car at that. In fact, when it arrives it could be the only mid-sized family sedan sold in the U.S. sourced entirely from Japan.
I'm still reserving my final judgment until I drive it. I do like what I see so far. If I had never seen the JDM Mazda6, I would like this one even better.
From what I have seen so far, the 2009 Mazda 6 would absolutely be at the top of my list among mid-size sedans. I have had several of the current generation Mazda 6s as rentals and like them OK - except for the noisy 4 cyl engine - but I would never have considering buying one. The 2009 with the 3.7 engine will be a definite possibility, though.
Or:
1. They're a little annoyed that they didn't wait to get the '09 and got a '07-'08 instead.
2. They're too young and/or ignorant to fully realize that the Mazda6 is supposed to be a Midsize Sedan, and not a riced-out Civic with graphics, 22" wheels and a two-tiered wing that can double as a set of bleachers.
Of the other Midsize Sedans, Mazda's got a winner IMO. Being a current 6 owner, I'd like to think that my tastes have matured since 2004, and so has the second-gen 6.
Initially, I noticed it by chance, then I said to myself "myself, I wonder if this really is the thought out there". So, I looked and I confirmed my suspicions.
I think some Mazda6 owners will not be satisfied until it looks and drives like a Ferrari but still costs $20,000
I think most Mazda owners are bummed about no hatch and no mtx in the V6, as am I. However, I will still look at it, because Mazda has appeared to improve on what needed improvement. From what I am hearing on the Mazda front, the pricing will relatively stay close to what it is now. That's a good thing.
I'm right there with you on that.
What I have been hearing is that our new 6 got quite bigger. Not as big as Camcord, but quite possibly near the size of the Altima. The more and more I hear from my Mazda buddies, the more I begin to think Mazda looked at Nissan's success with the Altima, and went that route in engineering the Mazda6.
Because a number of cars were equally acceptable based on more important attributes, appearance and price were really the deciding factors for me in choosing the Mazda6. I doubt the pricing will be as favorable and appearance-wise, I'm not sure if the new mazda6 would be my top pick. I don't really think there is anything that will be out next year that would clearly stand out for me in terms of appearance, like the mazda6 did in 2006-07. But, of course, personal tastes in styling varies.
I think it had a LOT more to do with sharing Ford's CD platform (I forget if it's CD3 - Fusion - or EUCD - Mondeo - or some combination) which is larger than the previous Mazda6.
But they did, since it was theirs to modify in the first place. It's also known that the next Fusion will be also on the updated CD3 platform.
When the CD3 and EUCD platforms merge I'm sure the Mazda6 will use that one as well. Successful companies don't reinvent the wheel.
I see a lot of that but a lot are also calling the front end downright ugly and add that the euro styling rear is a lot sharper which I think is a crock. I love the NA version exhaust pipes.
Also, I don't have to dislike my current 07 "6" to appreciate the looks of the new one.
Hyundai and Microsoft team up
MS press release
In brief, Hyundai and Microsoft are working on a "Sync"-like system that will be available in some Hyundai products beginning in 2010. Should be interesting to see how much technology they actually incorporate into it.
And please, no BSOD jokes!