Did you recently take on (or consider) a loan of 84 months or longer on a car purchase?
A reporter would like to speak with you about your experience; please reach out to PR@Edmunds.com by 7/22 for details.
A reporter would like to speak with you about your experience; please reach out to PR@Edmunds.com by 7/22 for details.
Options
Comments
'24 Chevy Blazer EV 2LT
The simple lights in the side view mirror aren't exactly simple and they are far from cheap. In certain cars, like edmunds.com's own 2015 Aluminum F150 EcoBoost, the sensors for the BLIS are located in the tail lights. It is a fantastic idea actually. The expensive part comes when you have to replace a cracked or broken tail light assembly at a cost of over $800.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
Honda lane watch system is class leading in its industry. State of the art technology. Nothing compares right now. Just a matter of time before a lot of these car companies copy cat Honda's system. I'd like to see this camera on both sides of the vehicle.
Fords bliss outside mirror light system ........................ is so yesterday. But its better than having nothing.
23 Telluride SX-P X-Line, 23 Camry XSE
LW only works on the passenger side. BLIS works on both sides. It's still up to the driver to decide if there is traffic close enough to the car - BLIS does this automatically.
The BLIS sensors may be more expensive than the camera. Not sure.
It's a neat feature but I don't think it's as useful as BLIS for the reasons mentioned above.
Ford's bliss system needs a voice alert or chime inside the vehicle to go along with its light . That would makes this system so much better.
New vehicle technology with Satellite guided laser Cross Traffic alert systems, Braking , features is now putting these Camera's front , back, and side of vehicles. Subaru has eyesight and Cross traffic options on there vehicles this year.
I'd like to see all vehicles with Honda's lane watch systems on both sides with not only camera's watching your sides and back but also light indicators on side mirrors with voice alerts and vibrating seat alert.
Just a matter of time before all vehicles have these options.
I might be asking to much to soon..
23 Telluride SX-P X-Line, 23 Camry XSE
I don't think the TLX has Lane Watch. I'm not seeing it anyway....Take a look:
http://www.acura.com/Features.aspx?model=TLX
There's the Forward Collision Warning and the Lane Departure Warning and even Lane Keeping Assist, plus Blind Spot Info, but no LaneWatch that I can see.
MODERATOR /ADMINISTRATOR
Find me at kirstie_h@edmunds.com - or send a private message by clicking on my name.
2015 Kia Soul, 2021 Subaru Forester (kirstie_h), 2024 GMC Sierra 1500 (mr. kirstie_h)
Review your vehicle
The next day I drove a Camry XSE. It was a dry day and we immediately pulled onto a 4 lane highway with a speed limit of 55. Accelerated very well and the ride was smooth. It seemed the Tire noise radiated more into the cabin, but I am not sure if it was the road surface that caused that. In the Legacy I was driving on strictly blacktop over concrete surfaces versus the Camry which seemed to be strictly concrete. I will have to try to take both on different routes and request that I go on my own without the salesmen. As in my Highlander, I couldn't get the steering wheel to come out as far as I would like to be 100% comfortable. Had to move the seat in a little closer than what is optimum for my driving comfort. It's something I can deal with but would prefer not to. The XSE has leather trim with suede inserts in the seats which is very nice. I liked the center stack better on the Camry than that of the Legacy. Nice big knobs while the Legacy had two tiny knobs for the radio. Legacy had a nicer sounding stereo system which is important since I spend a lot of time driving every day for work. Kind of had a lot of hard plastic surfaces but looked good.
I will have to go back and drive both for a longer period of time and on different road surfaces. I have to give the edge to the Legacy at this point. I have ruled out the Fusion, Malibu, and I just don't care for Hondas. With the Marysville plant in Central Ohio about every other car is a Honda in about 3 different colors. Too much. I won't try the Mazda6 due to the poor review by CR on the fairly loud interior noise. Would have most likely driven it but I have to have a quiet interior when I am driving. Might consider testing the Sonata. Or I might just keep my Fusion one more year since it has just about all the important attributes I like in a car. Great handling, smooth ride, fairly quiet interior, and the best Factory sound system I have ever heard in a mid sized family sedan.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Since you already have a Fusion, you should look at another one. Your car has the PI Duratec V6, which has plenty of power. It's much better than the previous version of the same engine I had in a 2007 Fusion.
I have a 2013 Fusion Titanium with a 2.0 Ecoboost 4cylinder. The power is similar, and gets much better mileage than the V6.
The Sony stereo is pretty good. You should at least try one.
I'm glad you liked the Legacy. I feel the power is definitely adequate. But if there is any doubt, the give the 6 cyl a test drive. Good luck. At the end of this month, I'll be at 6 months of ownership and cross over the 10,000 mile mark;)
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
The biggest obstacle is going to be getting all the cars to "talk" to each other in a common language.
That will be a very sad day for people who get pleasure from driving. When that day comes what point will there be to have different cars. Might as well have a Box like a transit bus but smaller. Would just have different levels of luxury in your Box. You could just tell your friends that you just ordered a new 2035 Box in the future. They would ask you what does it look like and you could just reply it looks like a box. Could just have a bed in it so you could go and take a nap while the car drives and a TV so you can catch up on shows or watch movies. Hopefully that will be at least 25 years from now and I will be 84. Driving might not matter to me by then.
It was about 375 miles back home, so on a stretch on nice I-80 in PA, I let go of the wheel for about 1/2 a mile with the cruise set to 72.
The car tracked perfectly straight, so I guess there is no alignment issue.
PA has put a lot of work into the Interstates from the New York border, headed toward Ohio.
It seems that you really dig the Legacy. That's great. You are taking your time and going on multiple test drives to make sure you do really love it before you part ways with your Fusion which you like. Take a test drive in a 6 cylinder Legacy 3.6R Limited and tell us what you think. The H6 is smoother and quieter than the H4 you test drove. With the CVT, your mileage will not suffer as much as you think. Either way, you are going to have to pump the same 18.5 gallons of gas in it every time.
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
The Auto Show starts this weekend in Columbus and my Subaru/Mazda Salesman has given me two passes for admission and also Vip Passes to the Dealership's booth. My Wife and I are thinking about going downtown to it and that way we can see all the vehicles up close and personal without driving all over the place.
'24 Chevy Blazer EV 2LT
You could also look at a hybrid model if you are leaning more towards fuel mileage.
'24 Chevy Blazer EV 2LT
I think the guy testing this is wrong about a couple of minor things. The interior trim is "fake" wood and aluminum, although it looks pretty good. And the standard seats, as with a base BMW, are "pleather" not leather.
But anyway, if you own the car for six years, that would be only about $300 to $400 more a year than some regular midsize cars with lots of options. About a dollar a day to go from a regular ride to this seems worth it to me. The combined EPA mpg rating on the TLX is 28, compared to 30 for the Subaru. Heading for retirement I think you might appreciate the luxury of the TLX. The Subaru is no doubt a good car, but based on the Subarus my parents and sister have owned they are not particularly "special." For Subaru I think of their tagline from long ago: "Inexpensive. And built to stay that way."
The standard warranty of an Acura is also longer: 4 years/50 k miles bumper to bumper, plus 6 years/70k miles for the engine and transmission. And I think the TLX definitely sets you apart a bit more than a Subaru or other mainstream midsize car.
'24 Chevy Blazer EV 2LT
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
'24 Chevy Blazer EV 2LT
I'm sure the Subaru is fine. Great mpg plus AWD. It's an impressive combo for sure.++ Went to the website and looked at the pix, and it seemed like the higher end models of the Legacy look quite nice now compared to most Surbarus of even 5 or so years ago:
http://www.subaru.com/vehicles/legacy/photos-videos.html
Was going to the Auto Show tomorrow, but we have the NCAA Basketball Tournament going on this weekend and the Arena is two blocks from the Convention Center where the Auto Show is going on at the same time. They were reporting on our local news at 6 tonight that parking was going to be very difficult to find. I think we will skip it. Maybe instead I will take my wife over to the Subaru/Mazda dealership then drive back towards home to the Ford dealership.
https://www.cars.com/articles/27000-midsize-sedan-challenge/
My golf buddy leased the 2015 Chrysler 200. Great lease price...... hates the vehicle.
Chrysler 200 has good gas mileage and looks good. There are many negatives on this vehicle. Bad brakes , Terrible 9sp trans, very low ground clearance for a family sedan, Ride is rough, Handling is clumsy, Cramped cock pit, headroom is terrible, egress is terrible. Taller than 6' you hit your head getting out of vehicle. His 200 has been back to dealer 4 times with problems.
How is the 200 not last in these ratings.
Cars 8, 9, and 10 are all better choices .
Id like to take the best from each vehicle and make 1 great midsizer. The 2016 kia optima will be out soon and should be on par with the new redesign 2015 Sonata. I'm sure it will be a good bang for the buck like its brother.
http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1096715_new-2016-kia-optima-sedan-to-debut-at-geneva-motor-show
23 Telluride SX-P X-Line, 23 Camry XSE
@cski what do you think ? Trade yours in for a 2016 .
http://www.leftlanenews.com/kia-optima-2016.html
23 Telluride SX-P X-Line, 23 Camry XSE
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
We decided to go to the Auto Show today. My wife was wowed with the 2016 Mazda6 Grand Touring in Soul Red w/Black Leather. I was too. The Legacy was in the next display area. Looked good but kind of bland when compared to the 6. Still like it though. Just aggravating that there are so few available.
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
that's why when my recent college grad son got FT work, he leased a car to replace the 175K mile Acura. Needed reliable, and he did not have much cash to put down at the time. so it was the way to get manageable payments while he saved up some money and payed down his student loans.
next car, he will likely buy.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Good job convincing him to not get more car than he needs. The only problem with leasing is that it is very easy to get on that "well, it is only $x more per month" slippery slope. That's how my wife ended up with her 2007 BMW X3.
We walked into a Honda dealer (literally walked as it was 1/4 mile down the street from our apartment). It was the summer of '07 and I thought we could strike a deal on a V6 Accord that was due to be replaced. I drove an Accord and a CRV. Anyway, my wife didn't like the Accord (too many she said) and I didn't like the CRV (felt like I was sitting on a Toilet and it ad ZERO pickup). I tried to get a number out of the salesman who I guess was afraid I'd shop his price, so he told me CRVs are selling like hot cakes. Selling price is MSRP, leasing "in the 4s." I pushed further. What does $4s mean? Are we talking $405 or $489? Anyway, we left.
I looked into the Passat wagon. Very nice car. Lots of features. Got an honest to goodness email quote from the dealer breaking down everything (cap cost, residual, $0 down, 15K per year with tax included). But it was the last day of the month and they needed me to come down today not to buy, but to get the credit app in so thy could hold the price. I didn't check my email until late that night & missed my chance. Went to the dealer Monday & VW credit is pushing financing rather than leasing that month. $398 per month became $445.
I got a hold of a BMW dealer tat had an X3 with not too many options. $471.67. Done;)
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD