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Top 10 Design Winners and Losers



  • rockyleerockylee Wyoming, MichiganPosts: 13,993
    OMG, those are so damn ugly they almost make the Sprinter and xB, look like Jessica Simpson's :surprise:

  • extech2extech2 Posts: 120
    The best-looking car of all times was the Lamborghini Miura from the sixties. The ugliest is my very own Toyota. Enough said - Amen.
  • anythngbutgmanythngbutgm Posts: 4,277
    Muira was nice, but I'll vote for the AM DB-4 and Ferarri 330 America. As far as ugly on the current market, the new Silverado is dorky looking (The GMC is better proportioned) and I cannot stand the Saab 9-5 with the "Sunglasses" around the headlights.

    But I must give the UGLY award to the Nissan Versa hatch. :sick:

    Edit: Another beauty

  • steverstever Posts: 52,572
    In keeping with Shifty's "ugly" comment earlier and posts like the above one, let's try broadening the scope of this discussion and give credit to the designers who hit the mark. Holler if you have a better idea for tweaking the title.

    And feel free to limit your list to one or two.

    btw, I saw a Multipla recently and they don't look as bad in real life (to me) as in the photos.
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,788
    When I was growing up, a friend of mine had a Fiat 600 Multipa. It was a hoot to drive and ride in.

  • john_324john_324 Posts: 974
    ...anyone here who *likes* the Chris Bangle BMW designs?

    Not a value judgement at all, just curious; I've yet to meet anyone who speaks of them with praise. At best, it seems to be tepid acceptance and deflection ("well, for me, BMWs are about driving performance, not looks...")

    I personally think that Ford seems to be on the right track with the design style of the Fusion. Very contemporary Euro-look, and likely to age well. Some bits need to go though...the fake chrome grill is too much, and the taillights look like something off of a teenager's Civic...

    Though I hate those Ford-Toyota-Honda comparo ads that Ford did, they do have a point on styling (as subjective as that is). To me, the Camry looks like a bloated pig and the Honda just looks like a Honda...dull.

    Oh, and I'll add that the new Ford generic gauge cluster (used in most of the cars except the Mustang) looks really good. Readable, tweak-able (white faces for performance, chrome rings for luxury) and minimalist. Nice job Ford.
  • anythngbutgmanythngbutgm Posts: 4,277
    I like it some places, and dislike it in others. It looks really good on the 3 series and 5 series and especially the new X5. The X3 pulls it off well but not as nice as the X5. I hate it on the Z4, it just makes the car look like a wooden shoe from Holland.

    When it comes to midsize sedans, the Fusion triplets are quite handsome. If I were buying based on style and substance, those would probably be my top choices. But I think in the end I would just buy a Mazda6 so I could get the V6-manual combo.

    As far as the Camry goes, it is also a handsome design in the higher end models, especially the SE trim. Hey, compared to the previous Camry, this one appears to have taken some design risks and it has paid off (450+ thousand sales per year!). Doesn't fall into the bland persona that the old car did. It'll be interesting to see what the next Accord comes out looking like. Based on the coupe, I am positive it'll be a stunner. Could even be a close race in sales between the Camry and the next Accord. Oh, and a new Mazda6 is on the horizon as well :shades: The current redesigned Altima is probably the sharpest out there right now IMO. Those 4 really make it interesting if you are shoppiing that segment. So many choices... :shades:
  • texasestexases Posts: 7,736
    My favorite whipping boy, not helped by his comments to the effect that "those who don't like my designs don't understand style". Of current models, the 3 and X5 are fine, but the 7, 5, X3, and Z4 are not. I was hoping to get a 5 right when the new style came out (I don't fit in a 3) but the new style stopped me. Compund that with the iDrive fiasco, and BMW dropped off my list.
  • carguy58carguy58 Posts: 2,303
    1.) Mazda 3
    2.) Mazda 6
    3.) Acura TL
    4.) Pontiac Solstice
    5.) Mercedes S-Class
    6.) Mitsubishi Outlander
    7.) Caddy XLR(sales flop though.)
    8.) Mazda RX-8'
    9.) Hyundai Tuscon

    ugliest or least favorite:

    Mercedes convertible
    Mazda Tribute(new one is just dull)
    Acura MDX(the new one is polarizing)
    08 Chevy Malibu(the back end styling ruined the whole car, I rather have the Aura if it was a choice between a GM car than the 08 Malibu because of looks.)
    07 Chrysler Sebring(what was Chrysler thinking, this exterior design makes no sense to me.)
    Pontiac G6(ok its ok looking but the look of it looks incomplete to me if you will.) The back end and front need to be proportioned a little better.
    07 Lexus ES 350(just dull)
    The Dodge Aspen
    The Dodge Nitro(nasty front end on that one.)

    As far as the new Camry styling goes the hanging emblem on the grille is not pleasent looking but the rest of the car looks wise looks alot better than the 02-06 model did.

    Oh yeah the BMW 7 Series I forgot about that one thats not a very good looking car.
  • bpraxisbpraxis Posts: 292
    Hello everyone and a belated happy July 4th. My take is a little different than some of you because I very much like very distinctive individualistic styling. So let me give you the best and worst of a few brands:

    1. Mercedes is hitting the ball out of the park.
    Best: CLS Worst: Ugly station wagon

    2. BMW is a trend setter and somewhat contraversial.
    Best: New X5 Worst: 7 series

    3. Audi has wonderful interiors and nice exteriors.
    Best: New R8 Worst: A3

    4. Lexus is becoming a little more interesting.
    Best: New IS Worst: SC

    5. Infinit has the best styling of the Japanese.
    Best: FX Worst: Q56

    6. Acura is being adventurous.
    Best: TL Worst: MDX is akward

    7. Nissan has some french influence.
    Best: 350Z Worst: Sentra is boring

    8. Honda has made a major improvement in styling.
    Best: Civic Worst: Pilot is boring

    9. Toyota is a mixed bag, good and bad.
    Best: FJ Cruiser Worst: Scion Xd and Yaris

    10. Mazda had some nice styling.
    Best: CX9 Worst: ?

    11. Cheverolet has mostly non descript styling to me.
    Best: Corvette Worst: Aveo

    12. Ford has a major opportunity for styling improvement.
    Best: Mustang Worst: Most

    13. Jeep is losing their way, derivative of the cherokee.
    Best: Wrangler Worst: The big one

    14. Ferrari is rolling art, yes.
    Best: F430 Worst: ?

    I hope that you find this list interesting, cheers.
  • texasestexases Posts: 7,736
    A great list. I agree with most, but here are some alternates:

    BMW-5 series is close to the 7 in bad looks to me, especially because I've been wanting one up until now.

    Mercedes - the SL has aged extremely well, but I saw a spy photo of the update with a CLS-type front end. I'm not a fan, don't like the 'bent' headlights.

    Lexus-The GS is also good, and I'm disappointed in the ES, even though it's a huge improvement over the last generation. Nothing beats the SC for bad proportions, though. The LS is OK, but it should be more...something...

    Acura - I second the TL, it's the best looking sedan anywhere under $50K IMHO.

    Honda - New CR-V has an odd front, and the side windows share no lines with the roof. I worry its looks will show up on the new Pilot.

    Porsche - the Cayenne never clicked, while the Cayman is outstanding.
  • jd10013jd10013 Posts: 779
    You guys want to see ugly? I know its just a concept, but they did actually build it. It's not just a drawing or something

  • john_324john_324 Posts: 974
    "Porsche - the Cayenne never clicked, while the Cayman is outstanding."

    Yeah...the Cayenne is for people who want a SUV, but also want to be able to tell their (non-enthusiast) friends they own a Porsche.

    But the Cayman is beautifully executed IMO. I just take issue with the name...why couldn't it have been something like "Monaco" or something else reflecting Porsche's racing history?
  • british_roverbritish_rover Posts: 8,458
    You know what would have been an outstanding name for the Cayman and kept the theme between the Cayenne and Carrera?

  • fintailfintail Posts: 41,683
    Monaco makes me think of a huge 1970s Dodge coupe that Andre would drive.

    Chicane is good, but can too easily be made into 'Chicken'
  • extech2extech2 Posts: 120
    The only thing missing from this car is the water and the Beta fish inside
  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 18,592
    Porsche was never much of a factor in F1 racing so "Monaco" would not be a good name. The Cayman should have been named simply the 987. There was nothing wrong with
    Porsche's numeric names , why did they change?! :mad:

    I agree that the Cayman is great looking. My dream car is the Boxster which I prefer to the Cayman because the top goes down but the Cayman is the looker of the two.

    2000 BMW 528i, 2001 BMW 330CiC

  • kdshapirokdshapiro Posts: 5,751
    "I've yet to meet anyone who speaks of them with praise."

    I like his designs, of which concepts are being integrated into a number of vehicles. That's the sincerest form of flattery.
  • texasestexases Posts: 7,736
    Instead of cars (how many times can we talk about Pacers and Azteks), how about ideas better not hatched? Here are some of mine:

    Current -
    > 4-door coupes (just make it a 2 door, why don't you?)
    > Bangle anything (yes he's being copied, doesn't make it good)
    > Dubs
    > Those tuner tailights showing up on Hondas, Mazdas, Fords, etc.
    > Spoilers
    > Black wheels

    Past -
    > SUVs (recent past, that is)
    > Vinyl/padded roofs
    > Opera windows (Ford even had something called the 'Twindow')
    > Fake hood scoops
  • steverstever Posts: 52,572
    If you like vinyl roofs and fake hood scoops, you're gonna love this. :D

    DECANO fake moonroof

  • john_324john_324 Posts: 974
    One of the few things IMO that detracts from "the getting better looking all the time" Ford line-up is the insistence on those horrible taillights. They have the effect of making black a terrible color choice, since they stand out so much on a black car... :(

    I'll add, generally, modern gauge design. What's wrong with simple, functional gauges you can read at speed? Instead, there are tons of odd fonts, weird lighting, printed speeds the car will never reach cluttering the dial, Lexus' dumb "chronograph" design where all the gauges were clustered within the speedo, etc.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 41,683
    Yeah, fake import tuner taillights are really tiresome now, soon they will date a design to the same extent of tailfins.

    I LOATHE goofy fonts on gauges, I like my last-of-the-old-school AMG with its classic gauges.
  • british_roverbritish_rover Posts: 8,458
    I saw two CLK 500s with the full AMG body kit and AMG badges today.
  • texasestexases Posts: 7,736
    Two more things-

    > Exaggerated, overstyled headlights (lots of previous gen Toyotas starting with the last Celica, previous ES300, Q45, previous Accord, BMW 5 series
    > Gunslit windows
  • fintailfintail Posts: 41,683
    Now AMG is as much a marketing tool as anything. I do not agree with this strategy, but I guess money talks.

    I remember back in the day when seeing an AMG car was something special, and virtually all models had USA sales of under 1000 units per year. This was only 5-6 years ago!
  • fintailfintail Posts: 41,683
    The headlights of the previous Camry/Solara/Lexus ES are ridiculous. I compare them to a woman who has had a few too many facelifts.

    I didn't like the high sills on the Audi A6 I rented a couple weeks ago. This doesn't appear as bad as some, but I found it impossible to be really comfortable with my arm on the windowsill as I drive - which is a position I like.
  • british_roverbritish_rover Posts: 8,458
    They did discontinue the R63 that has to make you happy. I think they are on the verge of discontinuing the G55 as well.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 41,683
    Yeah, I don't care for either of those. If I was to have a G-wagen it would be a 2 door diesel Euro model.

    I just don't like how common they are now. I think W211 E55 production outnumber W210s by something like 6:1.
  • british_roverbritish_rover Posts: 8,458
    Sometimes I think I would like one of those older E55s but then I always think I can get a Super V8 Jaguar for about the same money.

    The Jag is almost as fast, has better styling IMO and is a lot less common.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 41,683
    I saw one of those for sale around here not long ago. How many did they make? Those came out like in 04, right? I think they still cost a bit more than a W210 E55.
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