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It's official - Cerberus buys Chrysler

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  • dsiriasdsirias Posts: 34
    Apples and oranges. We're not talking about a foreign nameplate/newcomer seeking entry into this market at one time all by it's lonesome--like Toyota and Hyundai. I'm speculating about just the opposite: an established brand that very likely will be killed off(by being sold off to a new (probably chinese) newcomer). They might keep the Chrysler badge, and it might survicve or eventually thrive here, but those cars won't be built here with unionized American labor for a very long time, if ever. Toyota and Hyundai never sought entry into this market by assimilating one of the big three. Now as for Chery.......?
  • steverstever Posts: 52,462
    New Chrysler website:

    link

    They're blogging.

    And a rep is on CarSpace:

    chryslerinfo, "New Chrysler Corporate Website" #1, 6 Aug 2007 12:24 pm
  • volvomaxvolvomax Posts: 5,274
    Poor guy. He's gonna get eaten up here.
  • steverstever Posts: 52,462
    I think that was probably more of an informational post. ;)
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    I'm sure eventually some tough questions will get out and the guy will have to really start working hard at answering them.

    Either that, or he could just quit CarSpace...
  • british_roverbritish_rover Posts: 8,458
    I think that was probably more of an incorrect informational post.

    Fixed that for you
  • steverstever Posts: 52,462
    :shades:

    Just heard a New Chrysler ad on the radio; can't remember the last time I heard one that wasn't just a local dealer sales pitch.

    If they've reached me that way, their marketing machine must be in high gear.
  • wtd44wtd44 Posts: 1,211
    Give Chrysler a chance. What can YOU gain by attacking someone from Chrysler on an Edmunds forum? That behavior speaks poorly of the person performing it. No one is helped, and no gain is made for anyone of acceptable mental stability.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    I heard one of those ads too. Very nicely done, actually.

    The marketing guys are working 12 hours a day :surprise:
  • steverstever Posts: 52,462
    "New CEO Bob Nardelli has hired his first "car guy" — from Toyota, no less — to oversee global marketing. Smart move."

    Lexus Exec Jumps Ship for Chrysler (Inside Line)
  • hpmctorquehpmctorque Posts: 4,600
    Uh, Nardelli's new hire is a car GAL.
  • steverstever Posts: 52,462
    Thus the quotes around "car guy."

    Glad to see someone is paying attention around here. ;)

    Can you be a Detroit native and not be a car guy/gal?
  • hpmctorquehpmctorque Posts: 4,600
    Since I've never lived in Motown, I don't know, but I suspect it would be rare for Detroiters to not have some passion about cars.
  • wtd44wtd44 Posts: 1,211
    ...that was apparently held all over the country during the evening hours at all Chrysler Corporation dealerships. I enjoyed the food and customized (old) muscle cars. It was quite low key in my community. I wondered what the "hoopla" prior to the event was all about. I got the feeling that the dealers were pressed into service on this deal, and were less than exuberant over it. :shades:
  • steverstever Posts: 52,462
    And even more dealers are getting irritated with limits on online sales leads. Wonder if Cerberus is trying to run some of them off?

    Chrysler Limiting Online Shoppers to Five-Star Dealerships
  • volvomaxvolvomax Posts: 5,274
    I don't think its a bad idea.
    It rewards the dealers that earn the 5 Star status,and motivates the slacker dealers to do better.
  • wtd44wtd44 Posts: 1,211
    The last time I checked, my "5 Star" dealer was not giving access to current inventory online, but that was admittedly back in the first quarter of the year. I did buy (at deep discount). I am now enjoying a new 2007 Jeep GC.
  • steverstever Posts: 52,462
    The WSJ is reporting (paid link, sorry) that the new Chrysler may put Mopar on the auction block. Or just shut it down.
  • wtd44wtd44 Posts: 1,211
    Maybe that action will leave Chrysler more "lean and mean" for the tough job ahead.
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 26,330
    any free link? or can you give a summary? is this the name Mopar? Or the parts division?(??) I'm a bit confused. Maybe I don't know what Mopar is.

    '10 Equinox LS; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '14 Town&Country Limited; '18 BMW X2. 49-car history and counting!

  • wtd44wtd44 Posts: 1,211
    Go ahead and click the link as Steve put it up. You will answer most of your questions on the lead in to the rest of the story. Free WSJ must be an oxymoron! :P
  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 26,330
    OK. The parts biz.

    Seems odd to me, though. I guess if you need cash? I just wouldn't think you'd want someone else selling parts with a name that is so closely tied to the manufacturer. I mean, 90% of people will probably buy Mopar parts not knowing they are no longer actual genuine chrysler parts, ya know? Then, if they are made cheaply and fail, guess who gets blamed in the mind of the consumer?

    '10 Equinox LS; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '14 Town&Country Limited; '18 BMW X2. 49-car history and counting!

  • steverstever Posts: 52,462
    "Buyout firms like to present themselves as a can't-fail combination of operational genius and financial support that can heal sick businesses and create thriving companies. But sometimes, as in the case of Aegis Mortgage, genius fails and bankruptcy is declared. The private investment firm Cerberus bought a controlling stake in the Houston-based mortgage lender in 1998, but despite an infusion of cash and talent, Aegis ceased operations on Monday, August 6. Now hundreds of employees have been laid off - all without health insurance. It's a reminder that risky turnarounds can mean real pain for more than just investors raising questions about how Cerberus will treat other ailing companies it has purchased, notably Chrysler."

    The darker side of buyout firms (Fortune)
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Alamogordo, NMPosts: 7,615
    Cerberus in their strong new efforts to turn Chrysler around. I mean, Press is a winner, a successful executive, not someone who has fallen from grace for some particular reason nor failed to produce great performanace results.

    I say great...now Mr. Press watch closely over the Chery of China-built Hornet and make sure it comes out a winner before hitting U.S. shores. Chrysler needs many things now, but one of them is a Scion-Mini-fighting small car. Right now the Hornet is that car, along with the SRT4 Caliber.

    2011 Kia Soul Sport 5-speed

  • steverstever Posts: 52,462
    Chrysler "has hired Phil Murtaugh away from Shanghai Automotive Industry Corp., General Motors’ joint venture partner in China.

    AutoObserver has wondered if Cerberus is scurrying to turn Chrysler around so it can sell it to a Chinese company. In the early days of Chrysler being on the auction block, some analysts had speculated that Chrysler could be purchased by a Chinese company. It would be a ready-way – with Chrysler's extensive distribution network and manufacturing operations – for the Chinese to quickly gain a foothold in North America."

    Another Shocker: Chrysler Steals Expert on China (AutoObserver)

    I guess that's your China connection, Iluvmysephia1.
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Alamogordo, NMPosts: 7,615
    Great story on Cerberus grabbing another hot automaking talent and the possible linkage of his hiring to the Chinese market. Mr.Murtaugh may indeed work with Chery on the Hornet...since the SAIC link has been cut as well as the link to GM then that leaves Chery building the Hornet for Dodge. Mr.Murtaugh is now building Dodge's and Chrysler's! What an acquisition!

    Cerberus has not only bought Chrysler but they're buying some proven top talent to bring Chrysler around....quickly. Both of these new guys will fit right in to Cerberus' quick results plan. Even if Cerberus were to sell out to a Chinese carmaker these two will be excellent leaders for the Chinese company and make the sale of Chrysler worth more to Cerberus as a result of their hiring.

    We knew these boys meant serious business and now we have some visible evidence of just that. Serious carmaking business going on here.

    2011 Kia Soul Sport 5-speed

  • Very interesting, the China Connection. But do you guys think Cerberus can do a "quick" sale to a chinese company? How quickly do you think americans will embrace a chinese Chrysler?
    Press had his work cut out for him in the 70's with this japanese company on our shores. But let's face it, Toyotas sold themselves with their quality and reliability in the late 80's to today. He just had to "kick-back" and maybe come up with a few entertaining commercials and promotions every now and then. No offense to Press personally, but what makes him a such a genius (Real question. I can accept to be put in my place)?
    Will Press stick around for the next 10 to 15 years to make this new "chinese company" a success in America? He is 60 years old. Of course, there are plenty of people working into their late 70's.
    Equity firms and hedge funds like the quick turn-around, but Chrysler is going to be a long term investment, in my opinion. I hope Cerberus is up to that.
    Also, with Nardelli on board, will Chrysler salespeople have to wear orange aprons?
  • iluvmysephia1iluvmysephia1 Alamogordo, NMPosts: 7,615
    most of us know very little about Jim Press or Mr.Murtaugh. But with links like the one provided a few posts above we can learn. Right now it is only speculation about Cerberus selling Chrysler to a Chinese automaker.

    I would guess that Cerberus has a lot brewing in their pot right now enough to just work on repairing and building Chrysler up and in to a company that can be profitable.

    The more write-ups we can find like the one above the more we'll learn.

    I know that I like the quirky body design of the new Dodge Hornet coming here in 2009. I did not like the Neon and the SRT4, though, and it seems that reliability issues haunted the car. I want to see if Dodge-Chery can build the thing right and then modify it properly to suit U.S. emissions standards, etc., and not change it much from the concept.

    That's what makes this story interesting to me, Chrysler getting great new talent and building some great new product to go with it. The Lifetime Powertrain Warranty was a good move and it can't hurt as they "grow" the brand up. Or back up. Or grow the brand up for the first time. Maybe that's what they're after, eh?

    2011 Kia Soul Sport 5-speed

  • steverstever Posts: 52,462
    "Those hires, the employees say, suggest Cerberus isn’t doing the typical private equity drill of breaking up and selling the pieces. Instead, they say the company appears serious about investing what it takes, as it did in attracting outside talent, to turn Chrysler around, even if Cerberus ends up taking Chrysler public or selling it down the line."

    Chrysler: Employees Heartened by New Hires, Investments (AutoObserver)
  • wtd44wtd44 Posts: 1,211
    I just got a message from a close friend in another state who bought a brand new 2007 four door Wrangler. At 1500+ miles it destroyed a bearing and had to have a short block installed! Then, it threw a code that turned out to be a nearly closed spark plug gap. I guess the mechanic was in a hurry. Plainly, this tale scares me. I have a new 2007 GC Laredo with 1750 miles I've put on it... :surprise:
  • wtd44wtd44 Posts: 1,211
    Thanks for the URL. I haven't been contacted by Chrysler yet.
  • steverstever Posts: 52,462
    "They need some good, fresh direction, some consistent thoughts and observations, and I can bring those."

    Chrysler's Jim Press speaks
  • Surely outfits such as Cerberus only buy an outfit cheap with a view to turning a profit from it, in a relatively short time. If they really wanted to go into the car producing game they could buy a smaller company, (Volvo ?, Jaguar ?), as a plaything. Buying Chrysler can only be on the basis that they shine the chrome, black the tyres, clean the windshield, wax the body and sell the old girl, as a supposedly revitalised runner, for a profit, with the garage full of spares etc adding the icing. Any promises now about long-term future will be explained away as "in the current and perceived future market environments the Chryler Corp was not thought to be a viable mass market producer. So we sold it in bits to China, (or India). Sorry guys, we really did try". :cry:

    The UK motor industry should be your guide. Same problems of bad management, silly unions, poor design and quality as most American car makers but with a much smaller domestic market. What do we have left ? Not very much in the way of mass producers; and none UK-owned. :( We do have some brilliant specialist, though. :)

    It's the new way of the world, guys. It just took a little longer to get to you.
  • wtd44wtd44 Posts: 1,211
    I sure hope it turns out otherwise, alltorque. Foreign car dealers remind me of old jokes about "fly by night" hucksters. I'm dependent on USA brand names and dealerships to support my addiction to vehicle trading/exchanging and I want whatever is left of the Big Three to stay in business right here, in downtown USA.
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