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  • advocatusadvocatus Member Posts: 45
    As I was thinking about getting my new car soon, and what will be the first CD I play in it... I got to thinking.. commerical idea..

    "Guy looking around a dealership, excited, out of breath, desperately searching for something, like a child that ran away from her father... and then he hears something.. looks around a giant mountaineer and the Silver Cougar is there... "Come Fly with Me." by Sinatra is playing inside the car..."

    Buzz Line... (insert you're own buzz line here)

    I couldn't think of a good buzz line... the line to say right before the commercial is over.

    "Come Fly With Me" is a great song... you ought to check out it if you haven't at some point.
  • bkjprincebkjprince Member Posts: 12
    Hey Advocatus,

    I went with: "I want to get away" and "Are you gonna go my way" Lenny Kravitz.
  • badulahbadulah Member Posts: 961
    How about "The Distance" from Cake?

    "reluctantly crouched at the starting line,
    engines pumping and thumping in time.
    the green light flashes, the flags go up.
    churning and burning, they yearn for the cup.
    they deftly maneuver and muscle for rank,
    fuel burning fast on an empty tank.
    reckless and wild, they pour through the turns.
    their prowess is potent and secretly stern.
    as they speed through the finish, the flags go down.
    the fans get up and they get out of town.
    the arena is empty except for one man,
    still driving and striving as fast as he can.
    the sun has gone down and the moon has come up,
    and long ago somebody left with the cup.
    but he's driving and striving and hugging the turns.
    and thinking of someone for whom he still burns.

    he's going the distance.
    he's going for speed.
    she's all alone
    in her time of need.
    because he's racing and pacing and plotting the course,
    he's fighting and biting and riding on his horse,
    he's going the distance."
  • gustafscgustafsc Member Posts: 361
    Brubeck, "Take Five" disc!!!!!!!

    Skip G.
  • burnsmr4burnsmr4 Member Posts: 318
    Hmmm...

    I would have to recommend the only album ever imported to the US from Propellorheads. You'll find a great deal of commercial tracks from advertising, movies, and radio background music on this CD, including The Matrix gun battle, the Jaguar S-Type jazz advertisement, and more.

    Now...who has changed out the front and rear speakers in their Cougar, what's involved, and did you get your replacements from Crutchfield?

    Thanks!
  • badulahbadulah Member Posts: 961
    I replaced mine with Clarion 6x8s. There is an install guide on the CSG web site for the door replacements. I still have to post the guide for the rear replacements. It's fairly simple, and if you order from Crutchfield, they include the connection adaptors.
  • advocatusadvocatus Member Posts: 45
    Hey Group those are some great suggestions. Re:Badulah Cake Rocks! All of their other CDs are great too... Re:Gustafsc It's so cool that you like Brubeck's "Take Five" because my favorite sax player is Brubeck's partner and the one who wrote that tune, Paul Desmond. Paul Desmond with Brubeck on piano or Desmond with Jim Hall on guitar is fantastic!
    Re:bjkprince... oo that sounds good too, Kravitz is great driving music.
  • badulahbadulah Member Posts: 961
    How about "In The Mean TIme" from Space hog? Thats another GREAT tune to cruise to.
  • camelardcamelard Member Posts: 171
    Golden Earring "Radar Love" and Bruce Springsteen "Born to Run"
  • malibumalibu Member Posts: 155
    Saw a great license place frame on a new white cougar the other day on the way home from L.A...."Don't need a v8 when ya look this great" of course a little blonde girl was driving it. The spoiler looked a little different and I haven't seen rims like hers before, did they change those things on the 2001's? Music: still love my moms old favorites, steppenwolf: magic carpet ride and born to be wild.
  • camelardcamelard Member Posts: 171
    Your Mom has great taste.
  • badulahbadulah Member Posts: 961
    Malibu:
    Yes, the 2001s have a different wing and wheels. By the way, did you ever purchase and install the Borla exhaust system? If I recall correctly, you were considering it some time ago.
  • malibumalibu Member Posts: 155
    Yes I still want the exhaust...no I haven't had the time to shop around for it. I got one price of 780.00 for the complete package and installation, but I have also been spending money like crazy on the house so I feel kind of guilty putting money into my car when there are so many things I need for the house. I am patient though, so I figure by fall I should have it.
  • mpcopmpcop Member Posts: 1
    Hey,

    I just joined this group and I am inquiring if any other Cougar owner's have had any type of problems with a vibration in the rear of the car. I have been back and forth from Tire dealers to Ford customer relations and no one can seem to pin point the problem. My dealership now stated that the vibration is within exceptable limits. I am really getting frustrated with this problem. I love this car, 2000 V6 Sport, and I love driving, but this constant vibration at various speeds really takes the fun out of this normally sporty, fun to drive car. I suspect that it is a problem in the rear suspension but the dealer told me it was a tire problem. So I went to see 3 different tire dealers and they all checked the tires and stated that it was not a tire issue and that it was something in the mechanics of the vehicle. So I just bought a set of Michelin MXV4 Energy's, a high performance comfort tire, V rated, which really improved the ride of the vehicle and reduced some of the vibration in the rear. However, there is still a light vibration in the rear and I would like some advise on how to fix it.

    Also, I would like to know if anyone has done anything to improve shift efforts (make is smoother) on a manual 5 speed for the cougar.

    Thanks for your time.
  • badulahbadulah Member Posts: 961
    mpcop:
    Unfortunately I can not help you out with your vibration problem, but I can lend some advice on your shift question.

    B&M make a short throw shifter for the Cougar, which can be found at:

    Kurtz Kustomz Motorsports

    . This shifter will drastically reduce the throw of each shift, and from what I understand is much smoother than the stock manual shifter.

    Hopefully one of our other members can assist you with the vibration problem you are having.
  • gustafscgustafsc Member Posts: 361
    There's also a TSB for shifting problems on the 2K model.
    Check back in these posts and you'll find a link to the list of TSB (Technical Service Bulletin)
    Get the TSB # and contact you dealer while it's still under warranty.

    The shifting is a little stiffer on the cat than other cars I've had in the past, but seems to be getting smoother with time and mileage.

    Skip G
  • advocatusadvocatus Member Posts: 45
    what can I say.. I love it, I love it I love it..etc etc... nice pick up, sharp lines a decent stereo system, I've heard it sucks... and now my complaints :P .. horrible visability... I'm the type of driver that looks over his shoulder to switch lanes and looking over my left shoulder now is useless, but I'll learn to manage it. I like to look over my shoulder, because it doesn't have a blind spot. My dealer put 3 advertisements on my car and it makes my blood boil. I made the salesperson take the sticker off, because that was one of the conditions I stipulated before I even bought it. What the heck do I have to use to take the front plate holder off? can I just use a really thin screw driver?

    Drive Safe Everyone.
  • lmigliorelmigliore Member Posts: 148
    Yeah, that's the only *fundamental* thing wrong with the Cougar: you can't see cars in the lane to the left of you. The only good thing about is that it justifies winding the motor up to 6500 RPM to get on freeways.
  • fish8fish8 Member Posts: 2,282
    I have experienced a vibration in my '99, but it is in the front end(between 60-70mph). My dealer says the vibration is within specs and the tire shops say nothing is wrong with the tires. At about 20k miles I bought new Pirelli P6000's. These tires made the car ride smoother, but did not help with the vibration. I am beginning to think when the dealer does not know what the problem is they say "it's withing spec". Since my last rotation and balance, I have noticed my tires wearing much BETTER that previously. They used to wear on the outside and now they seem to be wearing evenly.

    One other thing I have noticed is a new noise coming from the drivers side of the car next to the rear seat. It sounds like a piece of metal(metal rod) is tapping against the side of my car. Sort of like metal on metal. When I first heard this noise, I thought it was rocks hitting my undercarriage. I have no idea what it is. It comes and goes, so it is not constant. Any ideas?
  • jdbishopjdbishop Member Posts: 36
    Release and re-fasten the left rear seat. This can cause a metal to metal rattle if it is not fastened TIGHTLY.
  • fish8fish8 Member Posts: 2,282
    Thanks for the suggestion!!! You are right on target. I tried this fix and it seems to work for a while, but the rattle seems to reappear. I did not hear the rattle at all yesterday, so maybe it's gone for good. Thanks again!!
  • fish8fish8 Member Posts: 2,282
    Where is everyone today?
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  • fish8fish8 Member Posts: 2,282
    Did anyone catch the blurb in the newest AutoWeek magazine on the Cougar? It basically trashed the Cougar. Someone in the article stated: I didn't even think they made that car any more!! Yikes!!
  • stageleftstageleft Member Posts: 391
    Ouch.
  • badulahbadulah Member Posts: 961
    (shakes his head back and forth in disappointment)

    It's really sad that Ford put zero effort in to the promotion of this car. It actually disgusts me.
  • advocatusadvocatus Member Posts: 45
    Could anyone who has done this, help me with the procedure... in Pa we don't have to have the plate on the front too, but my dealer put their damnable name tag on the front. I took it to my local dealer and they told me it was attached with rivets. Has anyone else dealt with this? My cat looks so ugly with that on the front, and I'd like to remove it.. they said they could drill out the rivets and I could put in those rubber bolts and paint them to match the car... any thoughts?

    Oh btw on my way home from school I took a fantastic country road, 550 from tyrone pa to state college pa, recommended for anyone in that area to drive, plus I got to take a picture of my cat in front of a perfect farmer's sign.. as soon as I get the picture developed I'll post the pic.
  • gustafscgustafsc Member Posts: 361
    Personally, I think that the dealer owes you a new front bumper cover.

    When mine was delivered, the plate holder was in the accessory bag along with the antenna & basic mats.

    In Pa., you don't need the front plate holder, so why did they put it on?

    If they're putting them on at the factory, that's a different story

    My $0.02

    Skip G.
  • badulahbadulah Member Posts: 961
    Advo:
    Did you tell them not to put it on when you ordered the car? If so, you have the right to take the car back and have them either repair it or replace the bumper. I would freak out if they did something like that to me.
  • daexpertdaexpert Member Posts: 140
    I agree with Badulah as well. When I bought my Cougar (2nd one that is) I made the dealer remove every sticker (with the Dealer's name on it) that they had put on the car. I would go back and make them fix the bumper. If you didn't ask for it, they shouldn't have placed it there then.
  • burnsmr4burnsmr4 Member Posts: 318
    I've had a similar noise just crop up on my '99 Cougar. I'll check the seatbelts. I didn't think those were causing the noise. Sounded more like something in the trunk rattling around, even when empty. Maybe I have a can of SPAM from the grocery store haunting my Cougar :-)

    Later,
    burnsmr4
  • fish8fish8 Member Posts: 2,282
    or Maybe it's a jar of pickles!!!???? ;-)

    The rattle is really confusing me!! I actually made an appointment at the dealer to have them look at this rattle, but on my way to the dealer the noise seemed to go away. It seems to be more noticable when I first drive my car and goes away after driving a few miles. I have no idea what it is.

    burnsmr4: Does your rattle sound like a metal rod tapping the side of your car? Thats how mine sounds. The only problem I see with having the dealer look at this is if they try to fix it they will end up tearing up my back seats.

    I will probably have them look at it during my next service.
  • gustafscgustafsc Member Posts: 361
    Check the exhaust system for a loose or missing hanger, loose connection point, etc...

    Mine started to sound like a pipe or the muffler was starting to leak. It needed a new gasket and to be tightened.

    I've had a similar problem on other cars, and that was the problem.

    Skip G.
  • fish8fish8 Member Posts: 2,282
    Thanks Skip!! Would I be able to locate the loose hanger(or whatever it is) if I were to look under the car?
  • gustafscgustafsc Member Posts: 361
    Yup!!!!

    Just make sure the pipes are cool before you grab and shake.

    Another check would be tp put it on a hoist while running, and see if any of the flanges are leaking or loose. You could have one of the local exhaust places that do free inspections help you out, or suggest this to the dealer's service dept.

    Also, shake the pipes a little to see if they're tapping on anything.

    Skip G.
  • burnsmr4burnsmr4 Member Posts: 318
    Very funny, Fish8 -- there's been an official United Nations Embargo on Pickle Transportation in and around the sovereign territory of my Cougar.

    Seriously, though, that sound you described is just like mine. I hear it at idling speeds and pulling in and out of spaces. I thought maybe part of the spare was rolling around. It sounds like it's coming from behind the back seat or in the trunk. Clanging sound.

    Just grab the (cool) tailpipe and move it around a little? See if it bumps around? Sounds simple enough...

    [Fast forward to national news brief]

    "In a strange story from Atlanta, GA, a young man blamed members of Edmunds.com Town Hall for an odd automotive accident. A paramedic at the scene said that the young man grabbed a hold of his '99 Mercury Cougar's tailpipe and burned off three layers of skin from both hands."

    "'He was hurt like that dude on Survivor -- the one that fell in the fire,' said Dekalb County EMT, I. Hurtbad."

    "The young man, who asked that his name not be disclosed for fear of being laughed at on the online discussion board, was attempting to locate the source of one of a documented 2034 rattles emanating from the vehicle."

    "'Don't laugh, man -- it hurts!' he cried as he was carted away in an ambulance. A woman carrying a jar of homemade pickles accompanied the young man to Grady Memorial Hospital."

    "Edmunds.com had no comment, although the Town Hall moderator we spoke with apparently fell on the floor laughing when we called. A local Lincoln-Mercury dealership representative could not 'replicate the noise' heard by the young man."

    "Now, on to news from Capitol Hill..."
  • badulahbadulah Member Posts: 961
    LOL!!! LOL!!!

    Thats great!!
  • fish8fish8 Member Posts: 2,282
    That is too funny!!!!

    My favorite part is the 2034 rattle bit!!!

    Very creative!!
  • fish8fish8 Member Posts: 2,282
    Go to the Sports Car thread then to the topic: Best Sports Coupe Around $23,000. I asked why the Cougar was not mentioned in the thread and look at the responses I got!!! It wasn't pretty!!! I'm sure many of you would have a field day responding to their remarks. I wasn't going to waste my time. Eventhough it was tempting!!
  • badulahbadulah Member Posts: 961
    Where the heck is everyone?

    HELLO!!!!?
  • burnsmr4burnsmr4 Member Posts: 318
    ...but it appears to have run everyone off.

    Hey! Y'all! It was a FAKE news story! Come back! I'm OK! No burned hands!

    (Although, the part about the 2000+ rattles and the pickles could be legitimate.)
  • burnsmr4burnsmr4 Member Posts: 318
    Did anyone catch the AutoWeek blurb regarding the Mercury Cougar from about two weeks ago? I think someone mentioned it. It was sad -- something about the "New Edge" design that everyone forgot.

    I expect to see the Mercury Marauder in the same column in a year. Something akin to "the oversexed Mercury Marquis that everyone forgot."

    Oddly enough, the annual new car issue of AutoWeek claimed that the Marauder would fill a void left in the hearts of fans of the late Chevrolet Impala SS. Uh-huh. Whatever.

    [Mercury marketing stiff hyping the Marauder.]

    "Team, the new Marauder is going to be a marketing coup for our division. GM screwed over some of its best customers when it killed the Chevy Impala SS. We're gonna steal that market right out from under them with this badass Marquis."

    [Impudent young Mercury marketing intern, with business school degree NOT signed by Sally Struthers, interjects.]

    "Uh -- why redesign a car associated retirees for the sole purpose of capturing a miniscule redneck market segment that's more than likely been re-brainwashed into buying the Chevy Monte Carlo in the first place? Shouldn't we be marketing the new Moutaineer and revamping the Cougar? Hello?!"

    [Crickets fill the resulting odd, uncomfortable silence.]
  • coolchickcoolchick Member Posts: 174
    I tried to get onto the chat tonight but I couldn't get anything but an empty box saying "Welcome to our chat." Whatever I typed didn't show up, and I didn't see anyone else in there, either....not even our moderator. So if y'all saw me, I wasn't ignoring you. I've been blinded by the light.
  • gustafscgustafsc Member Posts: 361
    Well, after reading my lates issue, I know why our much anticipated Cougar S was killed.

    The engine is to be found as the base unit in the new Jaguar sedan, with the 3.0L engine as the upgrade, and both are driving all 4 wheels. Based on the new Mondeo, a Ford/Jaguar is more Ford than anything else. Wrap it in leather and add a little walnut, charge too much; Voila, instant Jaguar.

    I guess the goodies go where they think the money is as the Jag will go for $30K+.

    Skip G.
  • ksuwildcat001ksuwildcat001 Member Posts: 97
    Hey everyone,

    I am awaiting the delivery of my new Cougar and was just wondering if there is a way for me to somehow keep tabs on the status of my Cougar?

    Thanks!

    David Bloyd <----anxiously awaiting a C2 Cougar
  • advocatusadvocatus Member Posts: 45
    Hey everyone, I've been kinda away from the computer, well because the cat demands my time washing, driving, roaming and of course petting... but now going over the old replys to my question, I might have been slightly untruthful. I didn't order my cat from the company, I asked my dealer to look around the area to find me one, and that is what she did. She found my cat in delaware, which I believe requires both plates, front and back. I believe that is why the plate holder was there, and not because the dealer put it there. Regardless I've had it looked at by the local guys and they say it's a rivet. I could have them cut it out and I'll have two holes in my bumper that I can put those plastic/rubber round headed bolts into. I can then get some kind of touch up paint and make them silver. I don't know what to do, so it's just an empty plate holder right now.

    Anyways, man I love my cat. And I never get tired of talking about it... about 80 percent of the places I go, I end up answering people's questions and hearing their complaints that they bought a ZX2 or a focus instead.... opps!

    I hope everyone is well and drive safe!
    David
  • burnsmr4burnsmr4 Member Posts: 318
    Hey -- I just read the C&D article re: the new Jaguar X-Type (is that right?), and I would sell my soul to "you know who" to get into that car. Such sexy Jaguar lines, and for $30K!

    I agree -- the Europeans are spoiled with that new, svelte Mondeo AND the X-Type. 3.0L AND 4-wheel drive! What was Mercury thinking dropping a Cougar S with these specs for...uh...a Grand Marquis on crack (a.k.a. the Marauder)?!

    [Crickets fill the resulting odd, uncomfortable silence.]
  • lmigliorelmigliore Member Posts: 148
    Well, gustafsc, you've read it right. The Cougar S is now a Jaguar X. I guess Ford felt it needed the Jaguar name to cover the price increase.

    The X is probably worth 30K; my ordinary Cougar is worth 25K even though it cost 18.
  • gustafscgustafsc Member Posts: 361
    As a Jaguar, the unit profit is probably a lot higher, but think of the volume that they could have had with the hotter engines in our cats. Wouldn't have been a problem for me to cough up a few extra bucks if the options had been available from the first.

    Personally, I don't need or want 4 doors, leather, and walnut paneling. I can get those in a library along with a lot of books.

    Maybe they'll get thier heads screwed on straight and get it right for the 2006 product cycle (if there is a Cougar in the future plans).

    Skip G.
  • fish8fish8 Member Posts: 2,282
    The new Jags are beautiful cars. Though I'm not sure if I would buy one(like I could anyway). The new Jaguar S Type is one of the best looking cars on the road today. But, my Dad was asking a friend who owned one and she said it has been in the shop about half the time she has owned the car. That instance may be rare, but it seems that Jaguar as not totally left their reliabilty demons behind.

    The new X-Type is a BEAUTIFUL car though. The Mondeo is also sharp looking. I just wish they would bring it over to the states. That might get me to buy another american car and possibly another Ford product!! I won't hold my breath!!
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