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but there are not that many factors that distinguish between 17mpg and 24 mpg averages of the same car!!
If by same car you mean same model, same year but different vehicles... there certainly are many factors that affect mileage. Check out the Accord Real World Mileage Forum here.
Regarding the XM Radio sound cutting out - check out Honda Techline Summary Article ATS081204. XM Sound Cuts Out But Display is OK. Applies to: 2008-09 Accord L4 & V6, 2007 CR-V, 2007-08 Element, 2007-08 Odyssey. If the XM radio loses sound but the display information is OK, cycle the ignition switch OFF then ON again. If the sound returns, ask the customer to wait until updated XM control units become available. It sounds like Honda and XM are working on revised firmware. Unknown is when it will be available, and who will be notified when it is. I am just glad it isn't another 'No Trouble Found' for my file. If only the the vibration and paint flaws were as easily fixed. One more super balance coming up. Will they balance the tires for free when rotation time hits? Yes I have a 2008 EXL V6 Navi.
I've had the same problem with brake noise since not too long after I purchased my 2009 Accord EX Coupe in late October last year. I took it in to the service department and they said they heard it and that they found glaze on the rotors and pads and cleaned them. It was fine for a few days and started again. I took it back a few weeks later and when I picked it up I was told that they had 2 others with the same problem and that they spoke to Honda and it was a problem with the Coupe that Honda was working on a solution for. My service adviser said it wouldn't help to replace the pads as the problem would continue. I've been patiently waiting for Honda to come up with the solution so I can get it fixed because it is annoying.
I sell brakes for a living. I own an 08 Accord ex and had to change the rear brakes early on. I was told at the dealer that Honda's design puts more pressure on the rear's and they wear early. Nice! I called the product manager at our factory who told me that the rear was a poor design and did not reflect the pressure it gets. If you look at the brakes they can barely stop a bicycle. He suggested that if they go early again try putting ceramic pads on. He believes that Honda may use organic pads on the rear which might wear quicker and make noice. Honda only warrants the pads 1 year or 12k. There have been many posts all over the internet about the rear brakes on 08's. It would be nice if Honda got there act together on this model. It's a good car but the body integrity stinks.
Has anyone else out there had problems with brake wear on their 08 accord? I'm told that the rear brakes on mine need to be replaced!!!??? What the heck! The car is practically new & I've treated it like a baby....very disappointed...
The 08 is not the first Accord to wear the rear brake pads quicker than the front. I changed the rear pads on my 03 at 47k miles, and the front at 60k. The brakes work well, and I changed them myself, so I'm not complaining. How many miles do you have on your rear pads?
I've been reading many forums that include rear brake pad pre mature wear including my own Accord. The dealer will tell you that this new design puts more pressure on the rear brakes which is why they need to be replaced sooner. Well OK, then the rear system should reflect this by having a brake pad, hub and brake rotor that mirrors the front where there is most of the braking pressure and weight of the car. The rear pads are about as big as a square cracker. I have been selling brake parts for 30 years and the vast majority of sales has been front pad sales. This is not to say that the rears don't wear out....they do but should not so quickly. I also think that Honda is using an organic pad. I would suggest that you take your car to a mechanic you trust and ask for ceramic brakes in the rear. Your dealer will keep putting on the same lousy brake pad and you will continue to get premature wear.Even if Honda is correct about added pressure on the rear, the engineering still stinks and there is no way that they will change the design at this point but you can buy and control what brakes you want to put on your car.
Just wondering what they said about the brakes wearing out so fast? Did you bring it to a dealer, or are you just assuming they need repair? I haven't heard much nice about the new Accord. Sorry for your troubles.
Yeah, I posted on here a little while back...I was THINKING about getting a new Accord, but had heard so many bad things about them. I decided that I would do a test drive anyways....they were right. The seats are horrible and the brakes were squeaking with only 456 miles on the thing! Not a good sign.
To wrap up my day of driving a crappy car that I knew I wasn't going to trade my 2005 in for, I was driving home and got rear-ended by a teenager with a permit. Now I really do need to look for a new car; the kid didn't have insurance and I don't have full coverage. Lucky me!
I hope they lock the kid up, or take away his license.
Sorry to hear about your accident; for some input (if you care for any, ya might not! :shades: ) feel free to check out the Midsize Sedans 2.0 forum, or the "Help Me Choose!" forum, since you aren't happy with the current model Accord. I linked them below for you.
I took my 08 accord to a dealer for brake inspection. Applying brake at high speed - 60+mph, the steering would wobble. The dealer told me that my front brake rotors are warped. The dealer also said that this would be caused by aggressive braking. On the contrary, I drive very conservatively. Anyway, the dealer said the front rotors need resurface. Furthermore, my rear brake pad is down to less than the manufacturers recommended minimum level. I only have 20k miles on it. Reve1, what is the difference between semi-metallic pad and ceramic pad. The only information I have gathered is that the ceramic is quieter. Is this the only difference? I would want to put on a better performing pads than a quieter pads. Does the ceramic pad perform as well as (if not better than) the semi-metallic pad?
The dealer also said that this would be caused by aggressive braking. On the contrary, I drive very conservatively.
You don't have to drive aggressively, necessarily. If, say, going down a long grade you apply the brakes lightly all the way down the hill as opposed to getting on them moderately then coasting, and repeating that process, you'll get your brakes very hot, and help them to soften, and warp. It may seem like you're being quite gentle, but sometimes, its better to be a little harder on them and allow yourself some "coast time" than it is to ride them gently down the hill. And, when you can, DOWNSHIFT to let the engine do some braking. Put it in D3. :shades:
Thanks for the comment. I live in LA area; its flat, no hills to speak of. Anyway, you comment is well taken. I've just gotten off from a phone call to Honda Automobile Customer Service. I told them that a dealer told me my Accord had 65% life left on the front pads and almost 0% on the rear pads. I naively asked the customer service whether this is normal for an Accord. The customer service said although he can not tell me whether it is normal or abnormal ware of the pads, he said there was no record of any other 2008 Accord owner who has reported this issue in their their database. He said I was the first to mention this issue on 2008 Accord. Regarding the rotor warp, do you think resurfacing (turning) the rotor would fix the problem, or should I just replace the rotor. I'm just not sure how well they could fix the warped rotor. I just don't want to have the problem return in short time...
I'm not an aggressive driver. I may drive a tiny bit more aggressive than a "granny" would. Non the less, how can I rely on a vehicle that cannot tolerate a gentle driver?
I was told mine had 65% life left on the front and 0% left on rear at 20k miles. American Honda Customer Service (800-999-1009) told me that they have never heard of this issue. I was the first one to report this issue to them. I've called about an hour ago (4/6/09). Maybe you could be the second if you call to report it.
I had same issues with brake on my 08 Honda Accord EX. I went to 2 different dealers 2 times. I also opened 2 issues with Honda HelpLine but I got no satisfactory answers. Some said I am braking to gently so Discs are getting glazed. Some said otherwise. I think Honda Design is poor. Now I am out of Brake Warranty dont know what do with irritating noise. :sick:
As I mentioned in a previous post, Honda will continue to put the same brake pads on a poor design in the rear. Go get yourself a premium ceramic pad for the rear. They will last longer and will not dust.
I'm @ a little over 18,000 miles on my 08 EX-L V6 and personally don't have any brake problems. I should be bringing it in for an inspection and oil change around 22,000 miles and based on what I've been reading at this and other sites it's not unusual to be informed that the brakes need attention so I'm just making note of what my options will be at that time.
Is there any real world experience with ceramic pads? I'm also coming up to the 20K mark in my EXL-V6 sedan. It would be nice to know how ceramics perform before making the switch.
I have a 2008 Honda that is not even a year old until May 2009. I have 22,000 miles on the car and was just told that due to the new breaking system that Honda put in the cars starting 2 years ago that the rear breaks wear out faster. My survice provider told me about a program from Honda manufacture that I can receive half of the cost of replacement because of this defect in the new breaking system. The Honda manufacturer has never heard of this. I just wanted to put it out to possible buyers, DO NOT BE HAD by this. It cost $245.25 to have your breaks replaced. For me it will be every year that I have the car now, because I commute 20,000 miles a year (at highway speeds, not stop and go). If this would have been disclosed to me prior to buying this car, I would have bought another FORD, at least I got 110,000 miles out of their breaking system. :mad: :sick: :lemon:
This weekend I had my rear brake pads replaced at 23,000. I was first made aware of the problem at Fairfax Honda during my routine oil change at about 20,000 miles. The service rep told me that my pads looked thin and wanted to redo the rear pads for approx $250. I said no thanks. Then at about 22,000 miles I heard the brake wear indicator on the right rear wheel. I still could not believe my pad wore down at this amount of minimum miles. I had several conversations with a local mechanic that I TRUST and he suggested to take my car in to the dealer and have the pads replaced which should be covered by Honda. I took my car into Koons Honda in Manassas after I did my research on the issue of premature rear brake pad wear on 2008 Honda Accords. There is a weath of information on the web. I described my problem with the service rep who then took my keys to look at the car. Within 5 minutes, the service rep told me that yes, I need new rear pads and he could do the job for $180. I really do not believe he put my car on a rack to review the pads because he came back with an answer so quickly and could tell me which pad inner or outer wore down the most. Then I held a conversation that I didn't expect to pay for replacing my rear pads under 25,000 miles. I told the rep that I was aware of the issue of premature read brake pad wear and Honda should cover replacement. The rep said he could not cover replacement as there are no technical bulletins out there on this issue for 2008 Honda Accords. I asked if he received alot of cases for premature brake wear. He said yes and because Honda redesigned the the braking system, the rear pads wear down faster. I then got the service rep to agree with me that replacing the rear pads under 25,000 miles is crazy and he would be upset as well if he had to replace pads every 25,000 miles. I took my car away from Koons Honda in Manassas and took it to my local mechanic. This is what I found from my locale mechanic: my rear inner brake pads were wore down so much that I would not pass VA state inspection (wore down to the brake wear indicator). I had approximately half remaining on the outer rear brake pad which is still quite an accomplishment for rear brake pad wear. Per my mechanic, it doesn't matter what type of pad you own. There was a problem with the rear disc brake caliper design as noted by the inner brake pad wear. Recall that the rear inner brake pad was wore down to its indicator. The rear calipers appear to have a design flaw as the pressure is not being distributed evenly. I had my pads redone at this mechanic. Overall, this is a major issue. I plan to write American Honda on the dealer's service, I plan to write American Honda on this design flaw, and I plan to contact the BBB Auto Line http://www.bbb.org/us/auto-line/ to state my complaint. Please 2008 Honda Accord Owners report your cases like this on Edmunds, the web and other outlets. In addition, report to American Honda.
I have an 09 Accord and got a nick in the paint on the silver part on the front, passenger side dash. It's a small nick but a nick nonetheless and was curious if anyone knows a way I may able to fix this. Is this something I can bring to a Honda dealership and they can repair or can I buy some sort of paint repair kit from Honda. I know there are repair kits for exterior paint fixes but I have never seen anything for interior. Appreciate any help in advance.
I experienced the same issue. The brakes on my 2008 Honda Accord EX 4cyl had to be replaced with 19,000 miles. This was not covered under warranty. I contact Honda Customer Service only to be told that this is normal wear and tear. Others have posted the same issues on carcomplaints.com.
I had a similar problem with my 2008 (December '07) Accord sedan, but the paint actually bubbled in a very small spot. The dealer contacted Honda and they it. I hope it won't happen again. How was your experience with the dealer? Thanks.
Thanks for the reply... I brought it to my local dealership last month and received approval from Honda to have it fixed at their expense, I take it in later this month for a repaint of the affected area.
I had to replace mine early also. The guys at Honda told me they redesigned the brakes so the car won't nose dive and now squats when the brakes are applied. That is why they wear faster than the front brakes. They cost me $60 to replace them myself. The car is less likely to go out of control especially in icey conditions. My rear pads were paper thin at around 19,000 miles.
Normal wear and tear? At 19,000 miles? Thanks for the tip about carcomplaints.com. I checked it out and found nearly 200 entries from people having this same problem. I'm going to print that list, and all of the messages on this site and bring it to the dealership with me. Maybe then they'll see that this is a design problem, NOT NORMAL WEAR AND TEAR!!!!!!
my 08 accord has 29600 miles and my rear brake pads are doing fine. i drive about 80mph most of the time too. i was told that when i get my next oil change that my pads may need to be replaced. if they do, the mileage will be about 35000 which is average. the mechanics at the dealership tell me my front pads will go about 50000 or more miles before replacement.
Highway driving should yield a lot more life on the pads. There is a design problem with Accord braking system. I drive 50 miles (highway) commute everyday. The pads should last me at least 40k to 50k miles easily... My truck, Nissan Titan, which we drive locally - lots of stop and go - the pad are still good at 55k miles on them. I replaced the Accord rear pad at 22k miles. Something is wrong... :confuse: :confuse: :confuse:
I have a 2008 accord ,,, the hood along where the hood is seamed together has developed paint bubbles Honda repair them one time already but now 6 months later they re appeared Now they wont repair it untill it rusts thew with a hole This came from the district service manager I called the 1 800 number and they said his descion stands. The dealer agrees with me that this should be fixed by Honda Has any one else had this. Also has any one had rust on there hinge bolts for the doors they wont do any thing about this either. Has any one had or seen white flakes come out on there dash vents and defroster and land all over the dash it looks like ash.
I haven't personally had the white flake issue, but my understanding is that it is caused by fungus in the A/C evaporator which is what cools the cabin air. Usually the complaint is about an odor, rather than white flaky ash. There are procedures to apply anti-fungal products to cure it.
If there is a sickly, sweet odor to the air, then you may have a heater core leaking coolant into the air instead. Usually this will cause window fogging from the extra moisture being put into the air.
Ok, I guess I am another owner falling into Honda's little trick to over their cost with additional service. I too have 2008 EXL Accord with 22500 miles, i took my car in for regular oil change at dealership and they told me that my rear brakes are gone. I said you gotta be kidding me. I asked the service rep why it wears off quick, he told me that Honda uses lot thinner pads in the rear and they wear out quick. My cost to replace them was +$225. I decided to call my local mechanic who works on my wife's car and he was surprise that the pads were gone for new car. His cost is half at $110. I also have extended warranty on this car to 100K. Does the extend warranty cover this??? If I know about this problem, i would have stuck to different Japanese car like Toyota. I will join others to report and complain about this.
It would be very unusual for any extended warranty to cover 'wear items', as they consider them part of regular maintenance.
Most aftermarket extended warranties from third parties (not the auto companies version) are more difficult to collect on. They are just as much pure profit as paint sealant and fabric protector. And like other business, they can go out of business and leave you with a worthless warranty.
Some makes/models come with 'Full' Maintenance or Service that covers wear items and service for the duration of the stated period on the sticker. BUT - watch out for the many brands that say 'Full Scheduled Maintenance', the scheduled in there changes it to just oil changes, and other things in the manual for set mileage/months, etc.
If the brakes wore out in the first 12mo/12k mile adjustment period - maybe Honda would pay for it, if caused by a defective brake system component (caliper, etc).
Some people in other groups say that they are trying 'ceramic' pads on the rear brakes to increase time between replacements, so you may want to give that a try. Best thing is to find a shop that will do only what is needed. For instance the rotor should not normally need resurfaced - only if grooved or scored. In many cases, as long as the pads are changed before metal on metal contact, only the pads need changed. So the $110 sounds right, about $60 is what people are saying ceramic pads go for (but most likely his price is OEM type pads), plus the labor for straight pad replacement.
My observation is that the Honda pads are softer than most and will wear faster. I replaced front pads on an 05 Accord V6 at 27k miles. I replaced with Honda pads because the braking is excellent and negligible rotor wear. The rear pads will go to 50k or more. FYI: the rear pads are by design all cars thinner than the front pads. Replacing with ceramic won't solve the rear pad wear problem in the 08. Likely it is caliper design but could be other. Honda had a similar problem in 03 also a new model year. Check CR. I DIY my pads and do not turn the rotors unless pull or pulse. Nominal $50 per set. Judgment on when to turn rotors and plan on new around 100k. If your car has aluminum wheels, inspect the pads yourself. Need a flashlight and not parked sunlight. 1/8 inch min.
On oil consumption, I had the same problem. My first notice of it was at approximately 4500 miles when the check engine came on. AT fir st the dealer claimed that it was break in, or maybe the engine wasn't properly filled at the factory. Then it happened a second time, at roughly 7500 miles. the car was down 2 quarts. Eventually Honda replaced the heads, then the valve covers and then the seals. It was still using roughly 1 quart every 1500 miles even after all that. I must admit that I don't understand how 1 quart per 1000 miles can be acceptable. I've owned many cars, four of them Hondas, and none of them have used anywhere near that much oil. Why does 1 quart per thousand make sense when the manufacturer states that you only need to change the oil every 7500 miles? Maybe it's because if you have to add a quart every 1000 miles then none of the oil ever gets really old?
I own a 2008 Accord Coupe with 11,300 miles on it and my rear brakes went out! I took my car to the dealer and he informed me this is common for the new Accords. I could not believe what the service advisor had said, but after reading a few posts on this website, I guess this is what we Accord owners have to expect. The service advisor indicated the new design on the rear braking system was set up this way to improve the way the car stops. I feel this is a bad design, I contacted American Honda and they took my call as a "complaint" They have received a few calls in regards to the braking system and unless they receive a substantial amount of complaints, nothing will be done to address the problem...so get on the horn with Honda and start complaining about our problem!!!
I own a 2008 Accord Sedan and at 20,000 miles I have already had to replace the rear brake pads and resurface the rotors..... cost me a total of 248 bucks. The dealer said that they wear out between 20,000 to 25,000 miles. I think thats [non-permissible content removed]. Something is fishy about that. I've never owned a car to where I had to replace the back brakes so early. Anybody else had this problem???
i own an 08 accord sedan ex-L-v6 and it has 30,000 miles on it and the brakes are doing fine. i've yet to replace them and i drive 80mph most of the time on highways but usually drive the posted speed limits in towns. my service techs tell me i may need some new rear pads when my oil needs changed again and i still have 60% oil life remaining so i am guessing that i can possibly go to 35000 or more before i replace my rear brakes.
I heard it 2 times till now that when I use to start my car I hear bit grinding noise at the beginning. I took this to the honda dealer and he said everything is alright and he didn't hear that now. but i am skeptical about that becoz it is not everytime and only some times ( and that too its twice till now). I just want to know from you if you have heard anything similar like this??
If it is a quick (less than a second) grinding sound, it is probably the sound of the ABS brake system initializing and testing itself. This should happen at each start up, regardless of going forward or in reverse. It lasts less than a second and happens in the first few seconds after the car starts and is in motion. Does this appear to be what you are experiencing?
Some more details about exactly when it occurs might help. Is it when you first turn the key to start (begin cranking), right after the engine starts, or when changing into gear?
If right when starting to crank the engine, definitely a starter motor issue such as the alignment of the gears or the solenoid that engages the starter motor to the flywheel. If low on fuel (makes this louder), and noise happens before cranking, could even be the fuel pump pressurizing the fuel lines - usually goes for a couple second and stops if the engine is not cranked - this noise would seem to come from the back of the car. There is the noise of the solenoids in the transmission when you move the gear lever from one position to another on the automatic (though not nearly as loud or slow at engaging as the one in a 90 dodge car I owned).
I've had one or two instances of valve noise right at cold start - something like the old tapping issue on cars that had hydraulic lifters, and it usually has a moan immediately after turning the engine off - I think it is pressure bleeding off the fuel line.
Honestly, I get the brush off by the dealer too often for my liking. Mine has a steering wheel shimmy at various highway speeds that they keep throwing tire balances at (on the big bad Hunter road force machine). Its minimized now, but still there (if you know the symptoms before the last balance) - the repair slip says just normal road vibration now, for the third time. Just wait until tire rotation upsets the apple cart - then it will be on my dime, because adjustments and tire items are only under the first 12K. Easily wins the most factory paint flaws award over the last five new cars I have owned.
Like others here, I generally like this car, but am starting to hate the dealers inability to fix things that aren't caused by something screamingly obvious. No matter what brand, the best warranty is one that is not needed - because the value of the warranty comes down to the dealers service departments ability.
I HAVE A SAME PROBLEM ON MY 09 EXL V6, DEALER CHANGE WHOLE NEW SETS OF BRAKE PADS & RESUFACE ROTOR FOR FREE. BECAUSE THEY SAID IT'S DEFECTIVE MATERIAL. UNDER WARRATY.
branders, I need your update, as my 2009 Accord's front brakes are making a squealing noise when I depress the petal at a speed between 15 to 50 miles per hour. It started doing this at about 1000 miles guessing. Now with 4800 miles it continued to do squeal. I too put it off as a new car breaking in. It doesn't do it all the time but the frequency seems to be increasing in the warmer weather. So I decided to bring it in to be looked at. Of course it was raining the day I brought it in (it doesn't squeal in the rain) and they could find nothing wrong. They trimmed the edge of the rotors, (indicating there could have been something on the edge. Then they test drove it and said there was no noise. I asked if there were any service notices and he told me there was no notice out about issues on this issue, (your memo?). So I picked up the car and drove 4 miles home, and when I was at mile 3, SQUEAL!!!. Now the service tech was very nice and did say they would test drive with me it it happened again, and they would look into the issue, so I will be going back. Who is the TRS, and where can I get their contact info? Any help will be appreciated, as the noise is tearing at my sanity. Thanks
I have a little over 30,000 miles on my 2008 accord. Even though the maintenance minder hasn't said to change the transmission fluid, I am thinking that I should get it changed just to keep the car in good condition and I drive a lot. What do you all think? Any feedback and advice would be appreciated. Thanks.
If it were a V6 engine, I would be more inclined to worry about the transmission. Even if it's a 4 cylinder, it can't hurt to change out 3 quarts, just to check the condition.. The condition of the drained fluid, and the amount of metal attached to the drain plug magnet, is a good indication of how frequent it should be changed in the future. If the fluid is dark, and the magnet is a ball of metal, it's time to worry. PS: Use only Honda fluid
I think 30K is the usual time for a tranny service no matter if it's a 6 or a 4. A flush would be the best bet because it removes all the used fluid. Just had it done on my 97 Camry (160K mi.). The shop used a can of BG tranny flush, then did the service. Refilled with BG synthetic and conditioner. Along with that a can of BG 44K fuel system cleaner and some new plug wires boosted my highway mileage from 30 to 33.87mpg. I am thinking of using synthetic BG gear lube in my 08 LX 5 speed manual. I'm not a BG salesman, I just like their products.
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If by same car you mean same model, same year but different vehicles... there certainly are many factors that affect mileage. Check out the Accord Real World Mileage Forum here.
It sounds like Honda and XM are working on revised firmware. Unknown is when it will be available, and who will be notified when it is. I am just glad it isn't another 'No Trouble Found' for my file.
If only the the vibration and paint flaws were as easily fixed. One more super balance coming up. Will they balance the tires for free when rotation time hits? Yes I have a 2008 EXL V6 Navi.
Just wondering what they said about the brakes wearing out so fast? Did you bring it to a dealer, or are you just assuming they need repair? I haven't heard much nice about the new Accord. Sorry for your troubles.
-J
To wrap up my day of driving a crappy car that I knew I wasn't going to trade my 2005 in for, I was driving home and got rear-ended by a teenager with a permit. Now I really do need to look for a new car; the kid didn't have insurance and I don't have full coverage. Lucky me!
Sorry to hear about your accident; for some input (if you care for any, ya might not! :shades: ) feel free to check out the Midsize Sedans 2.0 forum, or the "Help Me Choose!" forum, since you aren't happy with the current model Accord. I linked them below for you.
Midsize Sedans 2.0
Help Me Choose!
Reve1, what is the difference between semi-metallic pad and ceramic pad. The only information I have gathered is that the ceramic is quieter. Is this the only difference? I would want to put on a better performing pads than a quieter pads. Does the ceramic pad perform as well as (if not better than) the semi-metallic pad?
Thanks :confuse:
You don't have to drive aggressively, necessarily. If, say, going down a long grade you apply the brakes lightly all the way down the hill as opposed to getting on them moderately then coasting, and repeating that process, you'll get your brakes very hot, and help them to soften, and warp. It may seem like you're being quite gentle, but sometimes, its better to be a little harder on them and allow yourself some "coast time" than it is to ride them gently down the hill. And, when you can, DOWNSHIFT to let the engine do some braking. Put it in D3. :shades:
I've just gotten off from a phone call to Honda Automobile Customer Service. I told them that a dealer told me my Accord had 65% life left on the front pads and almost 0% on the rear pads. I naively asked the customer service whether this is normal for an Accord. The customer service said although he can not tell me whether it is normal or abnormal ware of the pads, he said there was no record of any other 2008 Accord owner who has reported this issue in their their database. He said I was the first to mention this issue on 2008 Accord.
Regarding the rotor warp, do you think resurfacing (turning) the rotor would fix the problem, or should I just replace the rotor. I'm just not sure how well they could fix the warped rotor. I just don't want to have the problem return in short time...
Thanks,
I had same issues with brake on my 08 Honda Accord EX. I went to 2 different dealers 2 times. I also opened 2 issues with Honda HelpLine but I got no satisfactory answers. Some said I am braking to gently so Discs are getting glazed. Some said otherwise. I think Honda Design is poor. Now I am out of Brake Warranty dont know what do with irritating noise. :sick:
https://www.buybrakes.com/axxis/45-13360D
I'm @ a little over 18,000 miles on my 08 EX-L V6 and personally don't have any brake problems. I should be bringing it in for an inspection and oil change around 22,000 miles and based on what I've been reading at this and other sites it's not unusual to be informed that the brakes need attention so I'm just making note of what my options will be at that time.
Average based on what standards? If you do a good bit of highway (at 80 MPH it sounds like you do), you should get more than that.
I replaced the Accord rear pad at 22k miles. Something is wrong... :confuse: :confuse: :confuse:
If there is a sickly, sweet odor to the air, then you may have a heater core leaking coolant into the air instead. Usually this will cause window fogging from the extra moisture being put into the air.
If I know about this problem, i would have stuck to different Japanese car like Toyota. I will join others to report and complain about this.
thxs and good luck
Most aftermarket extended warranties from third parties (not the auto companies version) are more difficult to collect on. They are just as much pure profit as paint sealant and fabric protector. And like other business, they can go out of business and leave you with a worthless warranty.
Some makes/models come with 'Full' Maintenance or Service that covers wear items and service for the duration of the stated period on the sticker. BUT - watch out for the many brands that say 'Full Scheduled Maintenance', the scheduled in there changes it to just oil changes, and other things in the manual for set mileage/months, etc.
If the brakes wore out in the first 12mo/12k mile adjustment period - maybe Honda would pay for it, if caused by a defective brake system component (caliper, etc).
Some people in other groups say that they are trying 'ceramic' pads on the rear brakes to increase time between replacements, so you may want to give that a try. Best thing is to find a shop that will do only what is needed. For instance the rotor should not normally need resurfaced - only if grooved or scored. In many cases, as long as the pads are changed before metal on metal contact, only the pads need changed. So the $110 sounds right, about $60 is what people are saying ceramic pads go for (but most likely his price is OEM type pads), plus the labor for straight pad replacement.
The service advisor indicated the new design on the rear braking system was set up this way to improve the way the car stops. I feel this is a bad design, I contacted American Honda and they took my call as a "complaint" They have received a few calls in regards to the braking system and unless they receive a substantial amount of complaints, nothing will be done to address the problem...so get on the horn with Honda and start complaining about our problem!!!
I heard it 2 times till now that when I use to start my car I hear bit grinding noise at the beginning. I took this to the honda dealer and he said everything is alright and he didn't hear that now. but i am skeptical about that becoz it is not everytime and only some times ( and that too its twice till now). I just want to know from you if you have heard anything similar like this??
please advice..
Thanks,
Mahesh
If right when starting to crank the engine, definitely a starter motor issue such as the alignment of the gears or the solenoid that engages the starter motor to the flywheel.
If low on fuel (makes this louder), and noise happens before cranking, could even be the fuel pump pressurizing the fuel lines - usually goes for a couple second and stops if the engine is not cranked - this noise would seem to come from the back of the car.
There is the noise of the solenoids in the transmission when you move the gear lever from one position to another on the automatic (though not nearly as loud or slow at engaging as the one in a 90 dodge car I owned).
I've had one or two instances of valve noise right at cold start - something like the old tapping issue on cars that had hydraulic lifters, and it usually has a moan immediately after turning the engine off - I think it is pressure bleeding off the fuel line.
Honestly, I get the brush off by the dealer too often for my liking. Mine has a steering wheel shimmy at various highway speeds that they keep throwing tire balances at (on the big bad Hunter road force machine). Its minimized now, but still there (if you know the symptoms before the last balance) - the repair slip says just normal road vibration now, for the third time. Just wait until tire rotation upsets the apple cart - then it will be on my dime, because adjustments and tire items are only under the first 12K.
Easily wins the most factory paint flaws award over the last five new cars I have owned.
Like others here, I generally like this car, but am starting to hate the dealers inability to fix things that aren't caused by something screamingly obvious. No matter what brand, the best warranty is one that is not needed - because the value of the warranty comes down to the dealers service departments ability.
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CUSTOMER INFORMATION: The information in this bulletin is intended for use only by skilled technicians who have the proper tools, equipment,
and training to correctly and safely maintain your vehicle. These procedures should not be attempted by “do-it-yourselfers,” and you should not assume
this bulletin applies to your vehicle, or that your vehicle has the condition described. To determine whether this information applies, contact an
authorized Honda automobile dealer.
April 11, 2009
09-010
Applies To: See VEHICLES AFFECTED
Engine Rattles at Cold Start-Up
(Supersedes 09-010, dated February 11, 2009, to revise the information marked by the black bars)
REVISION SUMMARY
Under WARRANTY CLAIM INFORMATION, the
Symptom Code has changed.
SYMPTOM
At cold start-up, the engine rattles loudly for about
2 seconds.
PROBABLE CAUSE
The VTC (variable timing control) actuator is faulty.
VEHICLES AFFECTED
2008 Accord L4 2/4-Door – ALL
2009 Accord L4 2-Door –
From VIN 1HGCS1...9A000001 thru
1HGCS1...9A004953
2009 Accord L4 4-Door –
From VIN 1HGCP2...9A000001 thru
1HGCP2...9A029528
From VIN JHMCP2...9C000001 thru
JHMCP2...9C010096
CORRECTIVE ACTION
Replace the VTC actuator.
PARTS INFORMATION
VTC Actuator: P/N 14310-R44-A01, H/C 8665374
VTC Oil Control Solenoid Valve O-Ring:
P/N 15832-RAA-A01, H/C 7131873
Chain Case O-Ring:
P/N 91302-PNA-004, H/C 6753560
REQUIRED MATERIALS
Hondabond HT Liquid Silicone Gasket
P/N 08718-0004, H/C 8263386
(One tube repairs two vehicles.)
WARRANTY CLAIM INFORMATION
In warranty: The normal warranty applies.
Operation Number: 110153
Flat Rate Time: 4.0 hours
Failed Part: P/N 14310-R44-A01
H/C 8665374
Defect Code: 03214
Symptom Code: 04201
Template ID: 09-010A
Out of warranty: Any repair performed after warranty
expiration may be eligible for goodwill consideration by
the District Parts and Service Manager or your Zone
Office. You must request consideration, and get a
decision, before starting work.
DIAGNOSIS
NOTE: If you’re reading this service bulletin on ISIS
and your computer has sound, click on the picture to
hear an example of the engine rattle.
1. Allow the oil to drain from the VTC system by not
starting the engine for at least 6 hours.
2. Start the cold engine, and immediately listen for a
loud rattle:
Do you hear a loud rattle that lasts about
2 seconds?
Yes - Go to REPAIR
I need your update, as my 2009 Accord's front brakes are making a squealing noise when I depress the petal at a speed between 15 to 50 miles per hour. It started doing this at about 1000 miles guessing. Now with 4800 miles it continued to do squeal. I too put it off as a new car breaking in. It doesn't do it all the time but the frequency seems to be increasing in the warmer weather. So I decided to bring it in to be looked at. Of course it was raining the day I brought it in (it doesn't squeal in the rain) and they could find nothing wrong. They trimmed the edge of the rotors, (indicating there could have been something on the edge. Then they test drove it and said there was no noise. I asked if there were any service notices and he told me there was no notice out about issues on this issue, (your memo?). So I picked up the car and drove 4 miles home, and when I was at mile 3, SQUEAL!!!. Now the service tech was very nice and did say they would test drive with me it it happened again, and they would look into the issue, so I will be going back. Who is the TRS, and where can I get their contact info? Any help will be appreciated, as the noise is tearing at my sanity.
Thanks
PS: Use only Honda fluid