Honda Accord (2008-2012) Maintenance and Repair

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  • mcpdjohnmcpdjohn Member Posts: 44
    They're copping out. No way that is normal. My 08 V6 Accord with 30K hasn't burned one drop of oil ever. Its still on the full mark when I drain the old oil and I've never had to add anything between changes.
  • rbbrickrbbrick Member Posts: 37
    You need a new Honda dealer, what a load of bull..... Ask them for an oil consumption test.
    Since my engine shortblock and heads were replaced due to oil consumption 1 qt per 1000 miles, I have 16K on new engine I am now at 1/4 qt at 3000 miles from LOF.
    :mad:
    BTW I have a 2008 V6 coupe AT
  • elliott2elliott2 Member Posts: 64
    The service department just added another quarter and a half of oil after 3,000 miles. In talking with a couple of the mechanics, they mentioned that they have a lot of unhappy customers with the V6 engine because of burning oil. The other bad news was that the brakes need to be replaced (less than 20,000 miles). Apparently Honda's brake supplier provided brakes that didn't meet the metallic content that Honda specified but Honda is trying to make the customers pay for the replacement. Great car company. :lemon:
  • accordguy0325accordguy0325 Member Posts: 169
    Midas offers free lifetime pads and shoes - ;)
  • icyou812icyou812 Member Posts: 77
    The brakes on my 08 LX 4cyl. 5MT are still very good (at least 60%) at 22k miles. Lucky, I guess.
  • vietviet Member Posts: 847
    Accordguy0325,

    How much did Midas charge you for the break job? Were that front or rear brake pads/ shoes? If Honda brakes are not good I'll have Midas replace my brakes.

    I got only 13K miles something on my '08 V6-EXL. No problems so far, except the tire pressure light was lit on months ago. I took my car to a Honda dealer and the guy showed me quickly that I was low on tire air pressure.
  • rkirchoffrkirchoff Member Posts: 65
    i've not had any problems with my v6 other than poor gas mileage. i've got 47000 miles on my 08 accord and normally drive about 80mph. it doesn't use any oil at all. i check it weekly and it has never needed any. maybe it is the way i broke it in...i still believe in the old way of breaking in a new car...run it as fast as traffic allows for the first 1000 miles and floor it as much as possible. in fact, i usually run it to top end as soon as i drive it off the showroom floor. i believe in setting the rings. i've had only 1 car in my life that i had engine problems with and it was due to breaking it in per factory recommendations. that car used oil and had poor performance. i learned my lesson. i get about 22mpg combined.
  • rkirchoffrkirchoff Member Posts: 65
    sending a message to the factory or calling them is a joke. i had problems and they more or less told me to live with it. this is my last honda. never again.
  • accordguy0325accordguy0325 Member Posts: 169
    I haven't actually replaced the brakes yet- I only have 3,000 miles on my 09 Accord EX-L V6.... Midas offers lifetime replacement of pads/shoes- front and back i believe - as long as you own your car - at least at the shops in my region.

    When the time comes, I'd call your local Midas shop - and perhaps Monroe - to check on what deals they offer in regards to brake replacement.

    Assuming you can get the free pad replacement for life- such as the one offered through Midas- it would likely save allot of money considering the unfortunate situation concerning Accord brakes.
  • rbbrickrbbrick Member Posts: 37
    Local dealer torn down 2008 V6 that was using a quart per thousand. They found that piston number 4 HAD NO OIL RING from factory.
    Roger :mad:
  • accordguy0325accordguy0325 Member Posts: 169
    Your experience is definitely unfortunate, however, if you prefer you could purchase a high quality Chrysler product - lmao :lemon:
  • tdg3tdg3 Member Posts: 1
    Ken,

    WOW! I have that same rattle and it is driving me crazy. It has been going on for about 3 months now. The only time it does not rattle is when I'm driving on a smooth pavement; otherwise it rattles all the time. I made certain that it was nothing in my trunk causing the problem. I also checked the rear speakers making sure nothing was loose. Well, last week I got in the back seat and just started messing with stuff and heard a familiar noise...it was the shelf. At that time I didn't know what to call it until I came across your message this afternoon. Thank you for giving my problem an official name...

    Teela
    2008 Honda Accord V6
  • jam1000jam1000 Member Posts: 182
    Or he could purchase a Toyota or a Nissan or a Mazda. And those are just the most closely competitive Japanese cars. There is no shortage of high quality, competitively priced alternatives.
  • edk57edk57 Member Posts: 6
    I took my accord to the dealer last week and they fixed the rattle problem under warranty. There is TB on fixing this issue, they will add padding and rebolt under the mid brake light between the rear speakers.
  • accordguy0325accordguy0325 Member Posts: 169
    Very true, but given Toyota's continued rash of recalls, problematic new model launches such as the 2007 Camry- and lower quality interiors than in the past I'd opt for Nissan or Mazda if Honda wasn't available.
  • ramjet1ramjet1 Member Posts: 5
    I won't bore you with my concerns with Honda Customer Service over this issue.

    I am asking all of you that have the windshield wiper problem to bring it to the attention of your Honda Dealer or the National Highway Transportation Safety Administration. In talking with my local Honda Dealer Service Manager this AM. Honda indicated they have no idea of this problem. I know from reading other postings my problem is not a one car problem. Many of you have the same problem. It is unsafe and could lead to an accident. No one wants that. Honda has good engineers they can fix this problem.
  • mazda6dudemazda6dude Member Posts: 283
    I have a 2008 accord lx automatic. Have little over 46k miles on it. Even though the maintenance minder has not shown the code to change the transmission fluid, I am thinking about changing just to prolong engine life. I would like some feedback and opinion on whether I should do it or wait. Thanks.
  • hickok_wbhickok_wb Member Posts: 3
    I would recommend waiting for the maintenance minder. I am not aware of a link between prolonged engine life and the condition of your transmission fluid.
  • v8growlv8growl Member Posts: 8
    For all those like me with a 2008 Accord Coupe or Sedan with the isssue of the front end "vibration or steering wheel shimmy" at approx. 60 mph and above take note.
    I have called Honda to register my complaint and issues with my '08 Accord Coupe. It is imperative that everyone that has this problem to call Honda's Corporate office and they will take your complaint and register it.
    This is the first step toward getting Honda's attention.
    The more owners that do this, the more of a case all of us will have, and something they will be more inclined to listen to. If they don't have the active complaints on file, then they can say "we are not hearing much about this issue."
    Calling the complaint line will not give you an instant fix. BUT, it is the start to get their "complaint book" filled up with the same problem, and for them to see it's not just an isolated issue.
    Take care....and call Honda!!
  • v8growlv8growl Member Posts: 8
    I have confirmed today with Honda, that a new parts kit is coming out...I believe consisting of new calipers and pads to help correct the premature wear of the rear brakes on 08 Accords.... Not sure how far this will reach...meaning to 09's....not sure.
    It's not a warranty item...BUT....if you have been to your dealer with premature brake pad wear....Honda will install the new rear brake kit at NO CHARGE to you. If you have already paid to have this done, you will be re-imbursed. This was told to me from the Honda corporate office. Not sure just when this program will start. By Dec. I believe. So, they have officially recognized that there is a problem and they are going to correct it.
    Now, we need enough complaints called in to Honda about the front end/steering wheel shimmy, then maybe we can get some action on that issue too. They respond when enough owners "call in" to make a complaint. Just doing it through your dealer wont do. Understand how they work. CALL HONDA DIRECTLY....and they will assign a complaint #, day, date, and the exact issue you are having.
  • blondebrickieblondebrickie Member Posts: 2
    For those of us who have paid for replacing the rear brakes do you know - were they replaced with the same faulty part? If so is Honda replacing them again AND refunding our money?

    Thanks
  • v8growlv8growl Member Posts: 8
    Well, I have enough experience to pretty much know that the "fix" is not the same parts. It costs them too much to replace weak parts with the same ones. I confirmmed with our Regional Service Tech, while I was on the phone with my Service Mgr...and good friend.....that indeed, the "fix" is on it's way.
    For all those that went to Meineke to get life time warranties on new brakes......It's quite possible you might have made a mistake. They tend to put on shoes that are too hard and thus wear down the rotors, and then cause you greater expense with premature rotor wear.
    Just something to think about!!
  • jen63jen63 Member Posts: 2
    What phone number can I call? I am having the exact same problem.
  • blondebrickieblondebrickie Member Posts: 2
    Thanks but that does not answer my question. I paid for new rear brakes a few weeks ago so if the "fix" is not out yet what did I pay for.....the same old defective part? My Honda service rep told me "it was normal wear" to which I said they were crazy brakes do not go out at 25k miles.

    Luckily I had my laptop and googled it....found a website called carcomplaints I believe and found over 500 cases.

    I may be blonde but I'm not a dumbie :)

    Any clue as to what I bought and will Honda reimburse me and replace what the Honda Dealer put on my car?

    Maybe I should have bought a Ford!
  • sprengelssprengels Member Posts: 1
    Hi, also had the same problem and had repaired the rear brakes just a few weeks ago, will they reimbursed it? what's the number to call?
  • jen63jen63 Member Posts: 2
    I am about to have my second set of rear brakes replaced on my 2008 Accord. Each set lasted less than 17,000 miles. We all need to call Honda 1-800 phone line and write letters to every agency like the NHTSA and any State consumer protection agency. Honda needs to have a certain number of complaints registered before they will act --- or so they say! CALLLLLLL and complain.
  • rkirchoffrkirchoff Member Posts: 65
    i got 33000 miles out of my first set of brakes and was told i could have gone another several thousand but decided to change them since i was leaving for a trip that involved me driving over 3500 miles. perhaps you're using your brakes too much. i drive around 80mph most of the time.
  • dpmeersmandpmeersman Member Posts: 275
    I'd like to support your cause but I'm going on 26,000 miles and am still on the original brakes. 70% of those miles are city.
  • klunkmanklunkman Member Posts: 80
    I'm considering upgrading to 235/45/18 in the spring with summer tires and keeping my 17"ers for winter. The turning circle is currently 37.7 feet with the 225/50/17's. Does anyone know what the turning circle increases to with the 18" package?
  • rkirchoffrkirchoff Member Posts: 65
    From 17" to 18" tires? Why would anyone want to do this? I'd check into the warranty status to see if this possibly voided the warranty. The handling would change drastically and the speedometer could change too. I cannot imagine the expense of new wheels too. If you do this change, remember too that the donut in the truck may not fit so well in case of using it. I'd also be worried about clearance. Traction may also be lost too. I'd check with a site called tirerack.com to see what they say. If you're looking for a better performing tire, choose a directional tire instead of the standard touring tire.
  • klunkmanklunkman Member Posts: 80
    Thanks for the reply, but Honda actually offers an 18" wheel/tire package as an accessory. TireRack also. What isn't explained is what the turning radius would increase to.

    The reason to do this? Handling. Looks. In that order.
  • mrbill1957mrbill1957 Member Posts: 823
    Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but as long as the tires can turn the same angle as the old tires without rubbing, I can't think of a reason why larger tires would effect the turning radius. Am I missing something in my thinking?

    Mrbill
  • jmillerjmillerjmillerjmiller Member Posts: 113
    You're right. If the tire doesn't rub, there should be no change. The tires he is considering are 10mm (0.4 inch) wider than the existing ones. If I did the math right, the outside diameter would be about 0.75 inch larger. Not a radical difference.

    Since TireRack was mentioned, their upgrade adviser is nice. You may know the following, but just wanted to post it - one thing many people don't realize is that rims aren't just picked on size and bolt pattern - the offset is critical to proper handling and avoiding undue stress on the suspension and bad tire wear, and a lot of rims need an insert or hub adapter to fit right as well.

    If the summer tires are hardcore performance, instead of all-season, there would probably be a decent gain on sharpness in handling and dry grip, but forget it in really bad weather. To complete this, I would suggest putting real winter tires on the 17"s instead of leaving the stock all-seasons.
  • elroy5elroy5 Member Posts: 3,735
    The steering will still turn to the same angle, so the radius will not change. If the wheels/tires are heavier, they could hurt mileage, acceleration, and ride comfort though. "Looks" are not that important to me, and the handling depends more on the tires, than the wheels, imo.
  • klunkmanklunkman Member Posts: 80
    Thanks all. I've decided to stay with the stock 17" rims, for ride comfort. On another forum, a poster stated that he regreted going to 18's because the ride became very jarring. And since they're new, I think I'll be able to get one Pennsylvania winter out of the stock Michelin Pilot HX MXM4's, barring any really deep snow. Then next winter get a set of 17" winter tires on separate rims, and then eventually replace the Michelins with good summer tires.
  • v8growlv8growl Member Posts: 8
    Calling Honda's 800# generally will work....as it already has for the brake issue. The repair kit is going to be sent soon, as I have already written about. This is really not a safety issue. It is a premature brake wear issue. Therefore the NHTSA would not need to be called as really any other agency. In my opinion. IF this were a different issue that compromised the safety of it's driver, passengers, other people, etc, THEN that would be appropriate.
    Premature brake wear issues are not just a Honda issue. This can be tracked to many, many cars over the years. SOMETIMES it is the cause of how a person drives or where they drive. Hilly mountainous areas will wear your brakes out much faster. And, I know there are many drivers that rest their foot lightly on the brake pedal causing early brake wear. But, I know that is not the answer for most drivers.
    But, again, don't panic as feel you have to call or write the NHTSA. The brakes do their job. They are just not lasting as long as most would like. It has nothing to do with the ability to stop your car. When they are worn too far....whether your at 20,000 miles or 70,000 miles...you have them changed. No, none of us think that having to change at 20,000 is fair due to the cost and feeling that, in general, brakes pads should last longer.
    So, everyone......Honda has already acknowledged the issue and is putting together the fix kits now. IF you have established a premature wear issue with your dealer...in other words you have a recorded history, then when the kits are available you will be getting the repairs. And, if you have the records to back you up, and have already paid to have pads replaced, you will be reimbursed. If you bought them somewhere other than at a Honda authorized dealer network....then I'm not sure how they will treat that.
    That is all I know at this point.
  • v8growlv8growl Member Posts: 8
    Yesterday I spent lots of time with my Honda service tech and Mgr. Both friends of mine. They were addressing my steering wheel shimmy at around 60 mph and above, etc.
    I talked about this on an earlier post.
    One of my front brake rotors was 10 grams out of balance. The other was perfect. That rotor was replaced with a new one. My front tires and wheels were rebalanced using the Hunter GSP9700 balancer.
    Using this balancer is a must and there are Service News bulletins given to the techs on how to properly use this machine. Proper wheel and tire balancing is a must and an art. Knowing how to use this Hunter balancer for all it's capable of doing, is a must. As in all kinds of specialties...some technicians are more knowledgeable than some others doing the same kind of work. Don't be afraid to ask questions of your Service Mgr. about the skill level, type of training, etc, that a certain technician has. I have ONE tech. that works on my car.
    Balancing the brake rotor...seperately...is a must, and the tech. must know how to do this.
    My problem has been found and the issue has been corrected.
    According to the Regional Service Mgr. this is not the first rotor found to be unbalanced. It's not a huge problem to my knowledge at this point. But, if you are experiencing what I have with the wheel shimmy at speed, then this MAY be a place for your tech and dealer to look.
    It was all covered under warranty, of course.
  • ramjet1ramjet1 Member Posts: 5
    Well, "Honda We Have A Problem". Once Honda Customer Service got the idea I was not going away due to their delaying tactics, they did get serious. Honda replaced our windhield, but it has not cured the problem. I called Honda Customer Service this AM and reported the problem is not solved. We'll see if they repond or if I will have write another letter. I must admit I expected a better customer experience from Honda than I initally received. Here is another chance to show one of their owners that they do care.
  • andy109andy109 Member Posts: 2
    My 08 accord-6 has rear brakes after 24,000. Now at 38,000 I need another set. $240.00 for the repair. The dealer said it's normal wear. I had 180,000 miles from my last accord. Those brakes lasted about 45,000. Next time I will look at an american car.
  • accordguy0325accordguy0325 Member Posts: 169
    ""Next time I will look at an american car. ""

    Good luck to you and God bless
  • iomniomn Member Posts: 2
    Hi guys, I just bought a 2009 accord. The dealer offered a treatment to make the interior water/spill proof. Now I forgot the name of that thing. It starts with "X". Anyone know the full name? any harm to young baby? DIY maybe?
    Thanks!
  • thegraduatethegraduate Member Posts: 9,731
    Xzylon?

    I had it on my Accord (2006). I didn't really want it, but when the whole price was factored out it was a good deal in-spite of it. It didn't smell, and it does work. My car was vomited in before it every had 10k on the odometer; front seats and floor. All wiped out, no smell the next day, no stain. I simply cleaned the seat with resolve and an old beach towel (these are two great items to keep in your car all the time!).

    I have an EX with cloth upholstery, I was just sure that it would hold that smell; I was happily proven wrong.
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Administrator Posts: 11,242
    Perhaps you're thinking of plaXstic seatX coverX (with silent "x"s) :)

    Just kidding... though I haven't heard of that brand, most people don't take that option these days because the fabric is generally pretty stainproof already (modern seats clean up nicely), and you can repel wet stains yourself by applying some Scotchguard. It's been 10 years since I had real "kids," but even when I had 3 of them and they spilled, I was almost always able to get it up with existing cleaning products.

    And of course nothing will protect against crayons or other sticky stuff that melts into the fabric fibers - in that case, prevention is key and then you've gotta hope for a good clean-up.

    This product is usually overpriced for what you get vs. Scotchguard, but you need to weigh the value to you. As far as I know, once these products dry there's no danger. Kids just need to be out of the area when you are spraying.

    (and there ya go... as I was typing, thegraduate posted evidence that it worked for him. As I said, only you can judge the value to price!)

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  • iomniomn Member Posts: 2
    Thanks, thegraduate and kirstie!
    The interior of my accord is very light-colored. We thought about it and didn't take it based on the rule of thumb: "Dealers always overcharge!" Just want to do a little research myself with the name. Scotchguard seems like the way to go. :shades:
  • thegraduatethegraduate Member Posts: 9,731
    If they haven't treated the car already, doing it yourself is a much better option. In my case, all cars on the lot already had the Xzylon treatment, and charged for the "warranty" that came with it. I wasn't really tickled with the fact that it came with it, after that one incident, I suppose I admit it was worth it to me!

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  • capt2capt2 Member Posts: 57
    We have a 09' EXLV6 that had the rear brakes and rotors changed at 1000 miles, the front rotors turned at 9000 miles (was told driver error) and the front rotors and pads at 10.000 mile (lo and behold they admitted that time there is a Honda "fix" coming out. Our son has a 08' with 38,000 with NO ISSUES.??? Seems they should all have it if it was a parts or design problem. If this continues some poor soul will get a used Honda.
  • elroy5elroy5 Member Posts: 3,735
    Which leads me to believe there are mistakes being made during assembly, or a large batch of defective parts. The fact that they don't ALL do it, means the problem can DEFINITELY be fixed. Either by replacing the defective parts, or assembling the callipers and pads correctly. Good luck, finding the solution.
  • stopthenoisestopthenoise Member Posts: 4
    My 09 has squealing front brakes. I was told after 3 trips to the dealer there is a problem with the brakes and Honda is trying to get a fix. They refused to replace the rotors until the fix is found. It is the same squeal you would get if you had inferior parts, I think they had that happen with a group of the cars. They turned the rotors, it continued to squeal, and then after a few thousand miles the rotors went out of line and I got vibration on my steering wheel. I just returned and they turned them again because they said the fix on the squeal has not been settled by Honda. The saga continues.
  • icyou812icyou812 Member Posts: 77
    They turned your rotors twice? I don't know how turning them would stop squealing. Pulsating brake pedal yes, noise, no. The more material they take off, the shorter life span they will have, and will be more prone to warping. Most of the time I just replace them. Kind of funny how it takes more than one trip to the dealer for them to admit there is a problem and then say Honda is working on a fix. That's what happened after complaining my remotes won't unlock the doors until about the third or more press. Still waiting on that one.
  • carroll74carroll74 Member Posts: 3
    The noise on my 2009 Accord was annoying but I could deal with the noise until a fix was available but yesterday, while driving down out of the mountains in NC and pressing brake, the front end of the car felt like it was going to fall off. Went to dealership (actually typing this in the waiting room) and all 4 rotors need to be turned and being told that a "fix for the squealing" will be available early 2010. Looking at the hundreds of posts I have read while sitting here and after the shaking occurred, this is a much bigger problem than I had thought. I am disgusted that I have to pay for a car that I no longer feel is safe for driving. Until all of the problems are resolved to my satisfaction, I will not allow my wife or children to ride in this vehicle.
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