Zaino Car Care Experiences

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  • pblevinepblevine Member Posts: 858
    feffmaxse2k: I'm with Mike on this one, the Z-12 Glass Polish will do the job. I had the same problem. After some hard scrubbing with Z-12, the wiper marks were removed. I had to use Windex afterwards to remove all the Z-12 residue. To prevent those marks from returning, I did two things. First, I changed my wiper blades. The rubber in those blades oxidizes quickly and this seems to be true for all brands. And second, I applied Z-6 to the outside of my windshield. Z-6 seems to do the job, even on glass! It works just like Rain-X. Now I've taken to using Z-6 on everything. All my car windows, the computer monitor, our TV screens, table tops, and now I'm chasing the dog and cat!
  • protegextwoprotegextwo Member Posts: 1,265
    Diet Pepsi, Dawn, Windex, Sprite, Z-12 and remove/clean Z-12 residue with soda water and coffee filters. A lot of work at first, but...you will never have to clean your windshield again! Be sure to use non-bleached 100% American made coffee filters. Tip: Let Sprite dry completely, before applying Z-12. Diet Pepsi is a MUST. Not sure why, but Hal Zany say's so.
  • pblevinepblevine Member Posts: 858
    You got a soda route 'er something? :)
  • protegextwoprotegextwo Member Posts: 1,265
    Diet Dr. Pepper may be used in southern climates. Diet Pepsi is much better! ;-o I like to order a large mushroom pizza when applying the Z12 window regime. If there is any sprite left, you may consume with the pizza. Tip: Mix a little Diet soda and Z12 in a super soaker water gun, and if the neighbor's dog trys to get after your pizza, zap the mutt.
  • daverosedaverose Member Posts: 233
    The most important advice an "experienced" Zaino user can pass on to another is: use the polishes and the Gloss Enhancer VERY SPARINGLY. If you are coming directly from the "wax culture," you must not go by that experience of how much product to apply. If you do, you will waste product and time applying it and removing it. The "ritual" first-time process is deceptively tedious sounding, especially if you throw in the description of towels, because it says to go over your vehicle ELEVEN times: dust with a towel or something like a California Duster, Dawn wash, rinse thoroughly, clay, re-wash, rinse thoroughly, dry, apply Z1, apply your polish of choice (Z2, Z3, or Z5), wipe off the completely dry product, and finish with a Z6 rub down. Three of those eleven passes take a matter of minutes, if not seconds, but why add to it by taking unnecessary time applying excessive amounts of product and the difficulty in removing that results? A dime to quarter size drop for each panel, a little more for the hood, the roof, and the trunk lid, is all it takes.

    I recommend using Dawn before claying; you want to remove as much foreign matter from the surface of the paint as you can and anything less strong than Dawn or some other alkaloid dish soap could leave behind dirt and contaminants. That means the clay might have more dirt and contaminates to pick up and, theoretically, make the claying more tedious and difficult than some already consider it to be, and unnecessarily shortening the useful life of the clay. I may be making a point that is more theory than substance, i. e., how much more difficult and how much shorter? But the point, is use the "dump truck", Dawn, for all it's worth, then go to the "wheel barrow", clay, for only the small stuff that remains. Thoroughly rinse after washing with Dawn; I have found that Dawn causes Zaino Clay to "lump up" and separate.

    The Zaino applicators are not particularly durable, but they can be re-used; just wash by hand, using liquid laundry soap, and air dry them. Since Z1, Z2, Z3, and Z5 are compatible, the same side of the same applicator can be used to go from one product to another. I would not mix Z-12 and Z-14 on the same applicator.
  • cole01cole01 Member Posts: 29
    Thanks for all the info. I will be trying it on Friday, will let you know how it goes. I was at a body shop today to pick up something and the owner was checking out my new black IS. He was telling me how hard it will be to keep looking great. He said that I should not even use terry towels on the black but instead use the old style cloth diapers? I thought that I had read that this was no longer a good idea? Any thoughts??
  • janmapjanmap Member Posts: 5
    I just did "zinoed" my car last weekend. I did dawn, clay, Z7, Z1, Z2. I didn't have time for Z6. I was getting to dark. Next day there was already some dust on the car so I decided to wait with Z6 till after I wash the car again. I have some concern about the way I applied Z1. I sprayed Z6 on the applicator each time before putting Z1 on it. That made the application very easy. However, later on I read in Sal's Tip's that only Z2 should be applied this way. Z6 is supposedly very concentrated.
    Any thoughts on that?
  • pblevinepblevine Member Posts: 858
    cole01: Your friend had the right idea but he was a bit outdated. Most towels have nylon treads which can scratch the paint finish and/or Zaino.
    And some diapers may not be 100% cotton either. According to Sal Zaino, you should use 100% cotton "Made in USA" white towels ONLY! Fieldcreast is one such brands which produces these towels and I believe Cannon also makes them.

    janmap: Not to worry. As long as the Z1 was applied to the clearcoat surface, your finish will be just fine. Now if the panels start to fall off....only kidding! So, hows the shine?
  • daverosedaverose Member Posts: 233
    cole01: I've heard of experienced folks, even dedicated "Zainoists," using cloth diapers, available at Wal-Mart, I understand. I use the Zaino applicators and am happy with the results, so I don't have the inclination to try diapers. I use the "recommended" towels for washing (hand size wrapped around a sponge) and wiping off the polishes; I use a California Duster and Absorber to dust and to dry my vehicles. I don't see how diapers can overcome the advantage I see in the nap/loops of towels tending to pull foreign matter away from the paint and into the cloth material. To me, the lusher the towel, the greater the tendency to move that matter away from the paint.

    janmap: there are two uses of Z6, Gloss Enhancer. One is to help spread the polish products more thinly by spraying the polish application medium (Zaino applicator, towel, diaper) directly. The other use is as a treatment of the surface as a shine enhancer immediately after wiping off polish or after drying a vehicle after washing it, or as a light cleaner and shine restorer between washes/polish applications.

    This process involves spraying a small area of the surface, NOT the material you are immediately spreading it around and wiping it dry with. This process needs to be done in small areas at a time so that the Enhancer doesn't dry before it is wiped around the surface, otherwise you will end up with spots and streaks.

    In ALL uses of the Z6, the nozzle should be barely open so that when you pull the trigger, you get a fine, atomized mist, not a stream.

    Hope this helps you two.
  • taisontaison Member Posts: 71
    Is there going to be another group purchase soon? Or did I just miss one?
  • jazzy8jazzy8 Member Posts: 11
    Hi, I am new to this topic, and after reading some posts, I have a couple questions.

    First - Will Zaino remove bugs, tar, etc, or do I need to use a bug and tar remover first?

    Second - I have been reading that 'you just wipe zaino on, and then wipe it off'. Does it ever get streaky, or look oily?

    Finally - What is the minimum number of products I need. I have a car that is less than a year old, and the paint is in good shape. I would like to clean the surface first, then apply a good protectant (similar to a 2 step Meguiar's process). Can someone tell me what I need? I don't want to perform a 15 step process.
    Thanks in advance for your help.
  • joebob6joebob6 Member Posts: 239
    Minimum you need Z1 polish lok and Z2.

    Better Z1, Z2, Z6

    Even Better Z1, Z2, Z6, Z5

    GO TO WWW.ZAINOBROS.COM and read till your heart's content.

    Yes remove the bugs and tar if "alot".

    If a little you could use the z-16 clay bar which "I" would use anyway.

    Expect to spend in the $60 - $90 for a well-rounded Zaino starters kit.

    To reiterate...go to www.zainobros.com for all your questions. You can even e-mail Sal Zaino.
  • automophileautomophile Member Posts: 780
    Welcome!

    Like many of us here, I was dedicated to waxes for nearly 40 years of fanatical car maintenance. AFter reading this forum for a year, I decided to try Zaino products, and will never go back.

    Zaino will not remove bugs, etc. The best thing to do to clean prep your paint is to "clay" the car after washing it with blue Dawn to remove any existing waxes. You can read all about clay at www.erazer.com. I personally have used Mother's with good results, but you can also buy it with your Zaino products. If your car has scratches, you may want to use a glaze first to remove them. If they are slight, they may dissappear with the use of the Zaino products.

    You will need:
    Z1 - to prep the paint for the polishes, done only once every 6-10 polishes.
    Z2 - the high gloss polish
    Z5 - to hide scratches and swirl marks (If you have any from previous wax jobs)
    Z6 - spray to seal the polish and give even a higher shine
    Z7 - car wash to keep the car looking great between polising.

    The leather and tire and window treatments are also good, but optional.

    It may sound like a lot, but it is SOOOOOO easy, it takes only a fraction of the time of waxing the car. Also, after claying, the car is so smooth the polish literally wipes on in minutes. It takes me no more than 20 minutes to wipe on a coat of Z2 and 10-15 minutes to buff it off. Then, about 15-10 more minutes to spray on and wipe off the Z6. I find I can polish the car in the time it takes my girlfriend to get out the door for dinner!

    Have fun - it will be worth it!
  • automophileautomophile Member Posts: 780
    One more comment -
    The Zaino that you buy will last you for a looooong time - so don't look at the cost as a factor. I have done about 6 coats each on 2 cars, and still have about 30-40% left of the polish
  • pcleveland2pcleveland2 Member Posts: 516
    Help,
    A strange puppy ran up and started jumping on my drivers door. Car has been Zainoed, about three coats. Now have light scratches on drivers door. Think it is just in clear coat. What do I do? Can I use the Z-5 to cover it up? Or am I talking detail shop?

    Pat
  • gladicheckedgladichecked Member Posts: 93
    they are liable for any damages. A friend of mine had this happen to him. His neighbor's dog was not on a leash and jumped up on his car (big dog) and put some deep scratches in his door. His neighbor ended up paying for the repairs.
  • pblevinepblevine Member Posts: 858
    Try the Z-5 treatment provided that the scratches are not through the clear coat. A number of Z-5 applications may be necessary depending upon the depth of the scratch. Why did the puppy do it? 'Hope he wasn't attracted to the Zaino. Um, maybe he was a Turtle Puppy or a McQuirery. No, had to be a Mothers'.
  • peterskmpeterskm Member Posts: 79
    I started using Zaino this past spring. With my first application, I had trapped the water spots under the Zaino. Now, they won't go away. I plan to start the whole process over with the Z1 come spring. Is there a way to strip the existing Zaino off so I can get rid of the darn water spots? When you reapply yearly, are you just supposed to wash, clay and reapply Z1 without worrying about removing the existing Zaino? Do you need to use Dawn again?

    Thanks,
    Kevin
  • pblevinepblevine Member Posts: 858
    I'm not sure you have to strip off the existing Z2. Before trying that, give Sal Zaino a call (or email). He'll know what to do in your case.
  • daverosedaverose Member Posts: 233
    Sal Zaino's e-mail address is sal@zainobros.com he made add to, or correct my recommendations:

    Try isopropyl alcohol to cut through the Zaino where you have water spots; try white vinegar to loosen and remove the water spot minerals. If that does not work, you might want to try a light polishing glaze. You may wash those areas with Dawn, if you like, or even the entire car; I do not believe you will remove the remaining Zaino by using the Dawn. Thoroughly rinse, then clay the area the spots were in afterwards. Wash again, with liquid car wash, Z7 being the preferred kind, rinse thoroughly dry and apply your Z1, followed by Z5 and/or Z3 (I have one older vehicle that has lost some of its clearcoat as well as using it on obviously non-clearcoat areas such as the roof rack, the wiper arms, painted motor components), and/or Z2.
  • lynne29lynne29 Member Posts: 46
    Count me in if we get a group purchase going. I need leather cleaner and some other items.
  • pcleveland2pcleveland2 Member Posts: 516
    Thanks guys, will have friend who is in Body Shop Business check it out to see if it went thru clear coat, then follow your advise.

    Don't know whose puppy it was or what it was attracted to. Even had a hard time getting away from it. Must have been a Mothers' puppy.

    Pat
  • this_is_nascarthis_is_nascar Member Posts: 199
    Which Zaino product works best on the black trim that wraps around the car? How about the weather stripping?
  • thor8thor8 Member Posts: 303
    What can I use to clean, the clear plastic back window in my porsche convertible. It has water spots on it and any product with abrasives like Zaino 12 will scracth it.
  • jazzy8jazzy8 Member Posts: 11
    Thanks for the help. Still one question though, does Zaino ever get streaky or oily. Does it require any finesse to apply?
    Will probably try it this weekend
  • automophileautomophile Member Posts: 780
    Zaino dries hard and dry. This is part of the reason it has such a high gloss.

    It is really easy to apply, just avoid the tendency to use too much. You only need a layer a few molecules thick to do the job. I dampen the pad with Z6, then apply the Z to the pad in a "Z" or sqiggle shape, and squeeze the pad together to distribute the Z. Then I wipe it on quickly in a circular pattern about 1-2 sq. feet, then back and forht in a straight line. Then, more Z and the next 2 sq. feet. It only takes about 20 min. to do an Accord.
  • mbdrivermbdriver Member Posts: 426
    automophile -

    Suggest you revisit Zaino's web site and confirm that using a circular motion to apply Z-2, Z-3 or Z-5 is NOT recommended. I believe Sal recommends an "up-and-down" motion when applying on vertical surfaces and a front-rear motion on horizontal surfaces. That, supposedly, will enhance the reflective qualities of the polish. LOL, and please let me know if I'm mistaken.
  • pblevinepblevine Member Posts: 858
    this is nascar: I've been using Zaino's Perfect Tire Gloss (Z-18 ?) with very good results. Its great for all that rubber trim and produces a semi-gloss black. 'Very easy to apply, just wipe it on. That's it. Oh yes, it also works on tires. :)

    thor8: I'm no expert but I think I'd try good olde Windex. If that doesn't work, you really should call your 911 dealer before using anything more powerfull. Plastic covers a lot of territory chemical wise and the specific compounds used in your window may not react well to certain cleaners (Fantastic, etc.).

    jazzy8: Zaino will NOT become streaky or oily. As for finesse d'application, follow Automophile's excellent advice. Only it takes me 25 minutes for an Accord and I only use a straight back and forth motion. 'Must be getting old. You'll do well! :)
  • automophileautomophile Member Posts: 780
    Actually, I spread it with a circular motion just to cover the area quickly, then, before it dries, rubb it back and forth per Sal's recommendation.
  • larryk5larryk5 Member Posts: 25
    Need some advice from the Zaino Experts. I got my first stash in today and plan on doing my new white Yukon Sat morning. Have some questions.
    1. Can I clay and Z1 the chrome and painted plastic molding or should I just put Z2 on it as stated on the web site?
    2. Is the Z12 glass cleaner ok for new glass or is it better suited for older glass with scratches? Can it be applied to the interior of my factory tinted windows?
    3. Will Z12 bead up water like rainx?
    4. If I want to apply a second coat of Z2 the next day should I avoid driving it and keep it garaged to avoid getting it dusty?
    5. What is recommended to dry your car after it is washed? I purchased some of the recommended towels today at Sams but I don't have enough to wash & dry and then polish.

    Thanks
    Larry
  • cole01cole01 Member Posts: 29
    I have the same question regarding plastic bumpers. Does Z-1 go on this before Z-5 or Z-3? Or do you go straight to Z-5??
  • pinecrestjimpinecrestjim Member Posts: 64
    I've a '00 SE Miata which has plastic painted bumpers. I did the entire treatment including clay on all painted areas of the car, bumpers too. I asked Sal about this when I ordered the products. He simply told me to treat all painted surfaces, that paint is paint.

    I keep my Miata garaged. This keeps the dust down. If you cannot leave the Yukon garaged overnight, you might want to give it a quick wash before applying the second Z2 coat. You don't want to chance scratching the paint. You'll find washing a Z-ed vehicle takes no time at all.

    As to the chrome, I haven't any on my car. If you want to clay it, I would test a very small inconspicuous area first. Rinse and dry the area, then check for micro scratches in the sunlight. If you see anything unappealing, don't use the clay on the chrome. Otherwise, just skip the clay on the chrome. Others here have skipped the clay on the paint and still love the result. Personally, I had never heard of clay before this site, and am now a firm believer of it.

    Windows - I have no advice here, except to maybe again do a SMALL test area. No need to get disappointed if the stuff would ruin the inside tint.

    BTW, you're going to love the end results. A Yukon is big, and you're looking at spending a good portion of today getting more intimate with your vehicle than with your lover.

    Jim M.
  • automophileautomophile Member Posts: 780
    It is probably not a good idea to clay the chrome, especially if it is new. The mirror surface can be very easily scratched.

    From what I have seen here, the Zaino glass cleaner is slightly abrasive, so it also may not be a good idea to rub window tint with it. The best I have found so far is Stoner's glass cleaner.
  • cole01cole01 Member Posts: 29
    Just put a coat of Z-5 on my car and see some smearing when I look at it in the sun. The Z-5 seemed dry when I took it off, but now I am wondering? I used a damp towel but still seem to have some. Any advice??? Will Z-6 help??
  • joebob6joebob6 Member Posts: 239
    Let it dry some more. Then do the Z-6 treatment. Use sparingly as per directions. Just open bottle barely enough so that you spray a mist, not a stream.


    When you say "I used a damp towel", what did you mean? For application of Zaino a damp towel is ok but never use a damp towel to remove the polish.
  • joe_jensenjoe_jensen Member Posts: 27
    I had the same problem. I concluded that I applied too much Z1 and too much Z5 and that is what caused the smearing. I talked to Sal and he said to spritz the surface lightly with water and wipe down to get rid of the smearing. It worked, but it took a long time to get the entire car fixed. Really burned the "don't apply too much" lesson into my mind...joe
  • larryk5larryk5 Member Posts: 25
    Took my smoke colored bug deflector off to Z the Yukon and was wondering if I could put some Z2 on it before re-attaching. The Lund instructions say to wash with soap & water and don't use cleaning solvents. Any suggestions?

    Took me from 9:00 AM to 6:00 PM to do the Yukon and that only got 1 coat of Z2 and a Z6. Used about equal amounts of both Z1 & Z2. Appears to be about 7/8's of a bottle left. Did I use enough for this large SUV?

    Larry
  • automophileautomophile Member Posts: 780
    I think you did it about right! You should also do the bug deflector with several coats and the bugs will be easier to get off.
  • cole01cole01 Member Posts: 29
    The damp towel was used to try to get the smearing out as per instructions. I e-mailed zaino, and was told just to go ahead and wash the car with Z-7 and that would take care of the smearing. Seemed to work. The black IS is looking pretty sharp. Since I live in Florida, I went ahead and put on another coat of Z-5 after about 8 hours. Will let it sit in the garage overnight. Hopefully, this time will be better. It is hard though to put on such a thin coat.......
  • pinecrestjimpinecrestjim Member Posts: 64
    I couldn't help but notice that you didn't have any pics of your cousin......

    Nice Z3 - considered them strongly before buying the Miata.

    As to the pics - just goes to show you how good the Zaino products are. The car looks great!

    I did my wife's Explorer Sport (ungaraged) 3 weeks ago for comparison tests against the Miata (garaged). Will let all know the results after a few months.

    Jim M.
  • joebob6joebob6 Member Posts: 239
    Is the car garaged? If not, then that shows Zaino really holds up which is great since I only recently started using it and really can't talk about Zaino in terms of longevity.

    In my experience most garage kept cars hold up very well with just regular washings.
  • automophileautomophile Member Posts: 780
    The car still looks great! I also envy you your beautiful fall foliage (but not the winters!).
  • pjyoungpjyoung Member Posts: 885
    Just wanted to let you know that I tried your tip of pledge on the interior. IT WORKS! Even on the plastic-wood parts of the dash. They look great. Thanks for the tip.
  • fastdriverfastdriver Member Posts: 2,273
    pinecrestjim-

    She's shy! ;-))

    joebob6-

    Yes, the car is garaged and is not driven in snow. However, last winter she drove it more than ever because we hardly had any snow. Still, for almost a year, I was amazed myself considering that she is not the best at exterior care AND she has been through the carwash!

    automophile-

    The foliage was beautiful this year. Must have been all that rain and cool weather this summer. That reminds me, if anyone wants to see a New Hampshire fall scene, just go to my other albums that aren't locked. There's some great scenes. I think you get to them from the left side of the screen somewhere.

    fastdriver
  • automophileautomophile Member Posts: 780
    You're Welcome!
  • bat1161bat1161 Member Posts: 1,784
    Folks i need some advice. I finally Zed my 00 Outback Deep Sapphire wagon. While it took a long time, it did come out NICE! EXCEPT for the hood. One half of the hood came out with streaks. I let the Z1/Z5 dry for a couple of hours, but it still came out streaky. I tried to re-wash the portion of the hood that was bad with some Z7, then reapplied Z5, let dry for another 3 hours. It is still streaky! Any suggestions? I love the way the Zaino worked on the rest of the car, and the finish is great! Thanks in advance.
    Mark
  • graphicguygraphicguy Member Posts: 14,164
    Only two explanations for streaks...either the Zaino wasn't completely dry or you used too much (maybe both).

    Not to worry, no harm was done in either case.

    Just wipe down with Z6 and you should be able to remove the streaks/oiliness.

    Remember, if it isn't dry, you're just moving the Zaino around on the surface, not removing it.

    Also remember to shake the Zaino well before use. I know when I have used any of the Zaino waxes, I have inadvertantly forgotten to shake it well before use and ended up with streaks/oiliness.

    bat1161--did you clay your hood? Sometimes, if there is a lot of contaminants on the surface, Zaino will take much longer than normal to dry.

    I have let Zaino dry overnite before I was able to wipe it off cleanly. This is dependent as much on humidity as it is on temperature.
    2024 Kia EV6 GT-Line AWD Long Range
  • pblevinepblevine Member Posts: 858
    bat1161: I agree with graphicguy: Too much Z and/or not enough drying time. Drying is a function of temperature and humidity, so times can be a bit tricky this time of year. You could give it a light spray with water, wipe down with good towels, let it dry for a few hours (at least), and then apply Z6.

    fastdriver: Great pics and even if it is an 'indoor' car that is still a very good endurance record.

    Larryk5: 'Not sure about claying crome but you can apply z1/z2 to it. The Z12 Glass Polish can and should be used on 'new' glass to remove any residual plastic film (normal for new cars as the plastic cures). Z12 is really only a cleaner. You should use Windex after Z12 to really remove all the Z12 residue. It won't 'bead' or protect as such. You may try Z6 afterwards if you desire a 'RainX' type of protection for your glass.
  • bat1161bat1161 Member Posts: 1,784
    Thanks guys. I e-mailed Sal who called me within 20 minutes (talk about great customer service! I wish my firm had that great a turn-a-round.) He said basically the same thing as you folks. He suggested trying to Z5 it again, let it dry, then apply some Z6. He also told me that it could possibly be the factory paint. I hope not, especially on a brand new car! I'll let everyone know how it works out. Thanks again,
    Mark
  • larryk5larryk5 Member Posts: 25
    Thanks for the input. I spoke to Sal this morning and he said that the clay will not hurt the chrome bumper or chrome trim. He also suggested putting Z2 & Z6 on the bug deflector and windshield to give help bead up the water. Thanks again for the input.

    Larry
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