Pontiac Bonneville General Maintenance and Repair

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  • thoughtnaughtthoughtnaught Member Posts: 2
    The 94 SE I'm about to buy has a minor transmission fluid leak, apparently around the pan, and neither its fog lamps nor the fog lamp switch (indicator) seem to work.

    Aside from being careful about keeping the trans fluid level up (for the common reasons discussed herein), does the leak raise any other red flags to anyone here? I intend to have the seal and filter replaced asap.

    I doubt I'll 'REALLY' need them, but are the fog lamps on their own fuse? .. with anything else that should also NOT be working right now? If it isn't as simple as a new fuse or switch, I'm wondering if it may be a sign of greater damage or decay.

    Btw, the convenience handles in the ceiling (passenger & back) are surprisingly loose and flimsy. Does everyone just live with these or is there a good replacement option?

    Thanks for any advice. I'm impressed with the knowledge and experience represented here, without you this group would be just another echo chamber.. (tho I'm hoping *I* don't hear MY OWN echo! ;-)
  • josh102josh102 Member Posts: 2
    My 1990 Bonneville SE with 230K miles, has a hood latch that had cracked, and later completely rotted out. I have been told that it is time to replace the hood.
    I have had my local mechanic weld it three times: there is nothing left to weld to any more.
    My research has found that there is a technical service bulletin 431013 that may pertain to this problem, but I don't know were to get it and if it is relevant or moot at this point. Did GM offer a remedy. Does anyone have any suggestions/experience concerning cracked hood latch connections.

    Thanks
  • josh102josh102 Member Posts: 2
    I have a 1990 Bonneville with controls for the radio etc on the streeing wheel. Currently, the CD player only operates when the car is very warm-a hot sunny day. Otherwise, it takes about an hour with the heat on to get life out of the CD player.
    What is the best way to deal with this: is there a fix for the player (a squirt of WD-40 in the right place) or another remedy. Having the steering wheel controls clearly complicates matters.
  • h101h101 Member Posts: 62
    Hi,

    I had a Olds Trofeo that developed problems with its steering wheel contacts once. The solution (straight from GM) was to turn the wheel lock to lock a couple of times to clean the contacts... guess what... it worked...

    Bill
  • wandatwandat Member Posts: 1
    Dissappointing air conditioning system!! Very little air flow from dash if you also want air on feet. You must have air on high just to be bearable. Car will not cool to a comfort zone in less than one hour of constant driving. GM says that is their design and cannot be fixed. Anyone else have this problem?
  • twobrownstwobrowns Member Posts: 52
    For any one out their with the same problem I have with a power steering groan when parking. Per previons posts the dealer performed two TSB's with no fix. Today I had the car in for the third try and GM apparently knows of the problem and they said a redisigned steering rack is coming. This problem is only occurring with the SSEI for whatever reason. I anticipate a long wait!
  • smfransmfran Member Posts: 432
    I leave mine set on auto and except for minor adjustments in the desired temp, I never touch it. After returning to my parked vehicle after sitting in 90 degree heat, I find the interior very hot. After about 10 minutes of driving, the fan returns from high to low speed and maintains the constant desired temp. I think it is a pretty good system.
  • theicemantheiceman Member Posts: 736
    I'll admit that it doesn't blow ice-cold air but, like smfran, I haven't had any problems with the climate control on our '00 - despite some pretty hot weather we've been having ('ceptin' the past coupla weeks....)
  • skyhawk3skyhawk3 Member Posts: 42
    My A/C works great. With the dual controls we are both happy. It cools the car quickly and the fan automatically reduces speed. With the fan at high speed it can ripple a map held in my hands.
    I do open the rear windows 1" as I drive away after being parked in the hot sun. I feel this helps to vent the trapped hot air. Within minutes the windows are closed and the car becomes comfortable.
    WANDAT, I would take a similar model from your dealer's lot and drive it in the hot weather to compare. I would not let your dealer off the hook if you are unhappy. Ask him what the temperature should be in your car, get a thermonitor and tape it to a head rest or place it by your feet. Document your issues! Call GM! I had great success with GM over an issue with an Olds custom cruiser that the dealer tried to ignore.
  • boosted1boosted1 Member Posts: 90
    I have a similar complaint with the A/C system on my 2001 SSEi. If left on "Auto" the fan stays on high all the time tryng to cool the car. I have the interior temp set at 70 degrees and it just can't do it. I have taken it in and had it checked, but all is well with the system according to dealer. I think that there is a problem with the sensor for the interior temp. I have noticed that if I set the temp control at 60 degrees and use the system "manually" that the car stays much cooler. If left at 70 the air coming out of the vents feel warmer, even when its 90 degrees outside, and the system doesn't cool the car.

    I am hoping that they will eventually have a recall or service bulletin to fix this problem.

    Still love the car though.
  • smfransmfran Member Posts: 432
    I also leave the rear windows down aprox. one to two inches for a few minutes to help the A/C vent.

    My fan also comes on high when first trying to cool the hot car but it does settle down in a reasonable amount of time; even in 90 degree mid day sun.
  • bonnevillesseibonnevillessei Member Posts: 11
    The right hand dash air vents do not put out any air. It did not work with the heater either. I hate to think about a trip to the dealer. Any help out there?
  • smfransmfran Member Posts: 432
    I had the same problem of no air coming out of certain vents when I first got the car. It turned out the dampers were not connected to the controller and were in the closed position and I could not open them. The dealer connected them for me so I could flip them open.
  • dixieguy501dixieguy501 Member Posts: 1
    I was going to look at the Bonneville, because the lease on my Buick is almost up, I may end up keeping it now.
  • smfransmfran Member Posts: 432
    What help have we given you that would lead you away from going with a Bonneville? I think all of us with 2000/2001 Bonnies are really enjoying our cars.
  • davajcdavajc Member Posts: 1
    I too am having problems with my 2000 Bonneville SSEi AC that the dealer says are normal operating conditions.

    Example: 92 degrees outside and extremely humid. I get in my car and set the air to 70 and press Auto button for Auto AC. 50% of the time (especially in higher humidity) the fan runs to half speed and stays there. Of course it is still very hot in the car but the fan never goes above half speed. If turnt the air down to 60 degrees the fan still stays at half speed. One night I drove for 20 minutes like this to see if it would eventually adjust. It never did and I was forced to turn the AC up manually (Which works fine) to keep from getting completely soaked with sweat. IS ANYONE HAVING SIMILAR PROBLEMS?

    P.S. Does anyone else think it is stupid that the AC system forces you to push the Recirc button every time you start the car? Everything else in the vehicle stays the way it was when you shut down. Why not the Recirc on the AC? Oh well, just a [non-permissible content removed].
  • radomirradomir Member Posts: 1
    Hi,

    I have recently purchased used 95 Bonneville SE 72 000 miles. I am very happy with this car but a few days ago the engine sound was changed. With RPM > 2000 I can hear a strange sound /noise, something like gears like if you back track fast. I have no idea what it comes from, everything works as usual but it is disturbing - the engine was very quiet.
    And the second silly question - can anybody please guide me where to find power steering fluid reservoir. The manual says below the alternator and behind the accessory belt. Bu I spent 15 minutes searching for it and found nothing what could be any kind of reservoir.

    Thank you
  • lewis21lewis21 Member Posts: 5
    My 96 Bonne has 53,000 miles and I love it, but...within the past 4 months I have replaced the water pump, bearings in the alernator, the radio dial light went out new Delco was $500 installed, aftermarket instead of course. BUT NOW....while the A/C pumps good cold air, when first turned on, or engine started, it no longer sends the cold air according to the setting, ie center dash outlets. Rather the cold air is routed out the defroster outlets, and then after about 5 minutes it gradually shifts to the center dash outlets. First repair shop stop caused me to RUN, the shop owner ("certified tech" of course) said "well the last one required we remove the dashboard to replace a couple motors" at a cost of about $800.00! I still like the Bonne but like my first wife, finding maybe I can't afford her. Thanks for any input, Lewis 21
  • boosted1boosted1 Member Posts: 90
    Sounds like a vacuum leak to me. I had a similar problem on a 94 Corvette that I owned. I was able to replace a check valve under the hood that was on the main vacuum line that went to the heater controls under the dash. The plastic part cost less than $5 at the dealer. I was very lucky.

    The system is set to operate on defrost if there is no vacuum to the system. Your car is probably "bleeding" off the vacuum through a broken hose or check valve. Once the car is started the engine supplies enough vacuum to over come the problem.

    A quick check would be to open it up on the highway (full throttle) and hold it for a while. This should cause the engine vacuum to drop and the air will switch to blowing out of the defrost vents.

    Long post but I hope I have helped.

    Stay away from that first repair shop.
  • lewis21lewis21 Member Posts: 5
    I should be so lucky. Tomorrow will try your test, thanks for your interest and input.
    Lewis 21
  • theicemantheiceman Member Posts: 736
    Boosted may be right here - I've had vaccuum leaks in other cars and one of the victims was the HVAC system. Things operated okay in periods of decent revs and low vaccuum demand but other times, yuk. The repair has always been reasonably priced.
  • kzmkzm Member Posts: 55
    Over the weekend, I rolled down the rear windows in my 2000 SSEi. When I rolled the right side up again, I head a crack when it reached the top of the window like something or one hit the glass! When I lowered the window again to make sure it was alright, it wouldn't raise up again! It just kept lowering down. I tried to manually help it along (No good!) and pull the window up(It slipped back down!). I'm thinking it's either the glass or the window motor. Tomorrow, I'm taking it in to the dealer assuming (hoping!)it's a warranty issue. The funny thing is, is that I had window problems with my 92 SE!
    KZM
  • theicemantheiceman Member Posts: 736
    It sounds like either the glass fell off the lift channel or the tape snapped or pulled itself out of its track. Not a nice thing to happen to you - particularly in the rain or in a high-crime area but not a big deal. And certainly a warranty issue. I just hope that they don't have to order scarce parts for the repair.

    Let us know how it goes.
  • kzmkzm Member Posts: 55
    Thanks,

    I'll let you all know want the deal is. Fortunately, They're taking it before the forecasts around here are calling for rain!

    KZM
  • homer2000sseihomer2000ssei Member Posts: 159
    twobrowns - is this graon coming as you are just turning the wheel under slow speed or stopped conditions? I am starting to get the same thing.

    My warranty is up soon - and i am seeking any info you have on this . . . was it something your dealer knew about, or did it require hunting and searching . . .

    I can get it to happen also if Im stopped, and just turning the wheel back and forth....
  • twobrownstwobrowns Member Posts: 52
    I only hear the groan while turning the wheel at slow speed ie. parking , or stopped condition. I never hear it while driving. There are two technical service bulletins out neither of which fixed the problem. The first was to change the power steering hose which the dealer said was too small and the second was sommething to do with the coolant fittings! On the third visit they called the GM service technical center while the dar was in the shop and the dealer said that GM is aware of the problem and a new steering rack is in design and I will be notified when there is a fix. I don't anticipate a fix any time soon.
  • homer2000sseihomer2000ssei Member Posts: 159
    That is exactly the situation I have.
    The car goes in tomorrow - I appreciate getting the info on the TSB's - I hate when they try to blow you off by saying they couldnt find it, or "never heard of that" - it is much better to go in informed . . .
    it saves a second trip and/or wasted time.

    Thanky you.
  • kzmkzm Member Posts: 55
    theiceman said:
    "I just hope that they don't have to order scarce parts for the repair."

    How about NO PARTS for repair!

    The verdict is in, I need a new window regulator and motor for my rear right side passenger window. The service mgr told me that if these parts were anywhere in the U.S. he would order them, but they're not! GM has to build them! These parts are unique to that side of the car, they have parts for the other doors but not for where I need them! Fortunately, they raised my glass to protect my interior from the elements! He said it would only take an hour to install once he gets the parts. No charge of course!;-) Now all I have to do is wait for their call.

    Yahoo! Yipee!

    Peace!
    KZM
  • theicemantheiceman Member Posts: 736
    YIKES!
  • kzmkzm Member Posts: 55
    You said a mouthful brother!

    KZM
  • john325john325 Member Posts: 237
    Dan: That was a rather bold statement.

    kzm: What a hassle; Who'd ever think they don't even have your part made. Reminds me of when I was trying to get a Dodge master break cylinder actuator a couple of years ago. Chrysler was going through so many of them, they told me they were still building them. Hope they get that part made soon.
  • twobrownstwobrowns Member Posts: 52
    Just wondering how you made out at the dealer with your steering problem. Hopefully they fixed your problem first try.
  • homer2000sseihomer2000ssei Member Posts: 159
    We are ordering in the parts to have both TSB's taken care of . . . . will call when Santa Claus delivers them . . ..

    Oh, and we did hear the noise too, so we believe you !

    :)

    problem is - next time they see the car, it will have the new smaller pulley and 7" K and N cone filter on a custom intake pipe - - i think they'll notice it . . . then i wait for them to try the ole - -these modifications void the warranty . . . . .

    i suggest they dont try that one .

    pessimistically yours - -Homer
  • theicemantheiceman Member Posts: 736
    Well at least they heard the noise - that's certainly validating. Good luck my GTA friend.

    Dan
  • theicemantheiceman Member Posts: 736
    I have actually been quite happy about the climate control system on our '00 SLE. Heating in the winter was certainly a major strength. So far, so has the a/c - although posts here did have me wondering about my experience. The other day, it was about sunny and 90° and the car had been left out in the sun for about 45 minutes with windows rolled up tight. It was HOT in that car when I got in. Not to worry, the climate control is set at 70° and it will soon be fine. Well, it did cool down but not too quickly - the air coming out was cool but not cold. What I noticed is that, as soon as I dialed the interior temperature down to 65°, the air coming out of the vents was ice cold (something theiceman enjoys). Ditto (obviously) at 60°. Put it back at 70: cool but certainly not cold.

    As near as I can conclude is that the climate control system is meant to get you to your preferred temperature but not to shock you with extremes - if you want these, you're just going to have to "request" them by manually adjusting the temperature setting. Oh yeah, and that recirculation trick does speed up the process to - just don't forget to turn it off once you get there (although I believe it automatically reverts back to fresh air after about 10 minutes - or at least it should).
  • smfransmfran Member Posts: 432
    My climate control works as yours does and I'm satisfied. Does the recirc actually switch back after ten minutes? I've never tried the recirc approach.
  • theicemantheiceman Member Posts: 736
    Stephen: Actually it might not - on some of my previous cars, it did. I'll check it out at some appropriate future time and post what I find. After your post, I consulted the manual and it makes no mention of the recirc automatically defaulting back to the off position. Interestingly, it advises the use of the recirc feature "to quickly cool the interior of the vehicle".

    I always hit the recirc button if I spot skunk road kill up ahead.
  • smfransmfran Member Posts: 432
    Post 417 spoke about the recirc defaulting back off after restart of the car. I thought you meant it defaulted back after running in recirc mode after a set amount of time.

    I'm planning a family trip in the Bonnie to Quebec City from Boston. Any tips or advice on $ exchange etc.? You can E mail me at
    fii@massed. net
    Thanks, Stephen
  • theicemantheiceman Member Posts: 736
    I was talking about the recirc automatically turning itself off after a few minutes. I used to find this annoying on one of my old Celicas but then I realized that it made some sense. I have now confirmed that the Bonneville does not work this way but - like virtually all cars - its recirc button does reset itself to the off position once the ignition is turned off and the key is removed.


    As for your trip to Quebec City, the major Canadian banks are usually better than the US banks (many US banks don't even stock Canadian currency) but I do not know the difference in transaction fees. When my brother comes here from LA, he comes with US dollar travellers cheques and exchanges them at one of the major Canadian banks. Check out the rates at the largest of the Canadian banks, The Royal Bank foreign currency converter and see if you can do better Stateside. You'll probably find that most things are cheaper in Canada except gas - so stock up before you cross the border.

  • pturner1pturner1 Member Posts: 33
    When I first got my 2000 SSEi, it was winter and the heater and heated seats were a pleasure. Springtime came and the AC didn't do anything, the compressor didn't even come on. I took it to the dealer and they found a bad O ring and replaced it. Since then, I pretty much keep the temperature on 76 degrees. Great in the winter and summer. (At 70 degrees you could store meat in the interior. I mean COLD!) I have not had a problem with the fan staying on high. Some days with the car sitting in hot sun, it takes alittle longer to idle down, but it does after about 20 miles of driving.
    I live in Chicago, but the sun still gets the interior plenty hot after sitting in a exposed parking lot all day.
    Maybe some of you experiencing problems have a small leak in the system.
  • smfransmfran Member Posts: 432
    Thanks for the currency exchange info. I was told that the best approach was to charge as much as possible as the credit card companies use the appropriate exchange rate with no fees.

    I am very satisfied with my a/c system and usually have the temp at 72. 76 would not be cool enough for me. It is possible that pturner's thermostat is calibrated higher than mine.
  • pturner1pturner1 Member Posts: 33
    It may be the 30% tint on the windows; 72 is chilly.
  • boosted1boosted1 Member Posts: 90
    My 2001 SSEi climate control does not work well at all. As I have described before, On hot days above 85 degrees I have to use the system manually.

    I think that some af our cars have a bad interior temp sensor, or something similar.

    We will probably tinit the windows soon to help the temp stay down inside.

    Still waiting for the TSB to fix this problem.

    Still love the car.
  • sgt_martysgt_marty Member Posts: 6
    My 95 Bonneville, began loosing coolant at about a quart a day but never left a puddle anywhere. Started running rough and I thought at 60K it may need plugs/wires. The day I was going to do the plugs and wires it began to smoke really bad. As it turns out I had the same problem I had with a 90 Lumina, head gasket leak. I knew the coolant wasn't ending up in the crankcase but was filling two of the three cylinders on the firewall side of the 3800 engine. I got lucky on the Lumina by adding Barr's Leak and got lucky this time too. After I got the leak stopped I replaced the plugs and found two of them caked with burnt coolant. Still keeping my fingers crossed. Just last week I found the blower motor running full tilt with no key in the ignition. I fiddled with the heater controls and got it to stop. This turned out to be the blower control relay under the hood and I replaced it. I've only had the car a few months and starting to regret it already.
  • theicemantheiceman Member Posts: 736
    Not exactly a warm welcome.

    I've also heard of a coolant leak near the belt tensioner assembly in the '95 3.8 block and I believe that there's a TSB on a different leak near the throttle body. These don't sound like yours - if you're losing 1 quart a day and there's no puddle, it's internal.

    I've also used Barrs quite successfully - although not with a leak as severe as yours (more like a Litre every 6 months). The only downside I've heard about with this stuff is that it can clog your heater core - if passages are already restricted with mineral deposits. Try out the heater and make sure it works. The good news: I've found that Barrs holds up quite well in the long term but if the problem comes back every 6 months or sooner, you're only buying time with Barrs - and not much of it at that.

    On another note: I wonder if the blown blower relay was caused indirectly by the loss of coolant - the previous owner would have had a devil of time keeping that car warm in the winter as there wouldn't have been enough coolant in the heater core. Perhaps s/he set the blower full blast to compensate. That kind of constant use CAN tax relays.

    If the rest of the car's in great shape and you got a good deal, these are problems worth fixing and the sort of thing that you have to expect and accept when you buy used. I hope your luck improves - the '95 Bonnie is a nice set of wheels and worth the effort keeping it roadworthy.

    Good luck
  • dmjohndmjohn Member Posts: 5
    When I try to start my 94 Bonneville, it fails to start and the "SECURITY" light comes on.
    After 3 minutes, the security light goes off and I can try again. This problem has been going on intermittently for about a year. It has recently gotten much worse and sometimes I have to wait for 2 or even 3 cycles (6-9 minutes) before it will start. I have to turn the key to the extreem end of its travel before it will work. I took the car to a repair shop on Friday. They could not find the problem and asked to keep the car over the weekend. Does anyone have any incite into this problem? I would appreciate any help.
  • sgt_martysgt_marty Member Posts: 6
    Might this have something to do with the little chip built into the ignition key that makes it so
    expensive when you have duplicates made? Sounds like either the chip in the key is flakey or the contacts in the ignition switch that need to make contact with the chip are dirty or worn. It probably gets more expensive after that, wiring, computer problems? Hope this helps as I'm no mechanic. BTW, thanks guys for the help on my coolant problem. I think I got it stopped.
  • theicemantheiceman Member Posts: 736
    Yeah, sgtmarty might have nailed this problem - you might need a new ignition cylinder. I'd say that you're best off going to a dealer for service on this one.
  • homer2000sseihomer2000ssei Member Posts: 159
    Ive just dropped the baby off to have a paint problem fixed , and thought I would share so you can all keep an eye out.

    Under the hood , right at the lip where the seam was folded under and welded - the paint started to bubble a few weeks ago. Looked just like peeling paint, before the surface would crack open. A fingernail would be able to dig into it, and there was an impression that come sort of corrosion was building up inside those bubbles. It had just started to work it's way from underneath the hood, to the very lip edge (at the front) and it was obviously coming up with plans to spread more.

    I clean the underside and engine compartment faithfully, and this came up pretty quick. Mine is the 2000 - so it might take some time - but do have a look.
  • gdw3138gdw3138 Member Posts: 5
    I have a 1995 SSEi Bonneville, that appears to have a traction control problem. On start-up the "traction control off" dash light lights, as well as the shift console traction control button light, and after 2-4 seconds the dash light goes off. This should be the normal, on start-up internal tests. However, driving for 10-45 seconds, the dash "traction control off" light lights and the shift control light goes out and traction control can not be engaged again until a engine restart. This is happening on every restart. Sitting in park or drive without moving does not cause the dash light to re-light after the initial system check even after a few minutes. The ABS light lights on initial system start, but does not light again even while driving. Does anyone have any suggestions? I can not find a code reader that will read ABS trouble codes. It appears that the 1995 Bonneville, has the ODB-11 connector, but I have not determined whether it has the ODB-11 computer. 1995 appears to be transition year between ODB-1 and ODB-11. It could be a mixed combination or straight ODB-11. Does anyone know how to determine which ODB system it is (is it on the emission sticker in the engine compartment? ) and whether there is a reader for ABS codes? I have an appointment with the dealer, but I would prefer to read the codes and repair myself. Thanks for any ideas on these two problems.
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