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They are stillpulling very strong $$...
Looks to me like 00 S-Types are holding their resale values better than 00 Lexus GSs or 00 BMW 5ers or 00 Mercedes E-Classes.
Nice
I bought 2 for me, one is already sold, the other is "If its as you say it is I'll take it" type of deal.
It is and he will (I know the guy).
ough thing is getting ones that arent ex-rentals or dont have like 40K miles. Even a Meteorite/Ivory (IIRC) with 42K on it broke $27K I think. 00 3.0 PM/Spt
Bill
I just had one of the Pirelli's literally disintegrate, but their is a 4-6 week wait according to Michelin, so I may stick with the Pirelli's. There doesn't seem to be much choice out there.
Mike
Another option would be the MXM4. It's OEM on the T-bird and will be OEM on the LS going forward. A little more all-season and less performance for a little less $$ but sounds like a good tire also. Tirerack.com has a lot of info and comparison tests.
Apparently Jag has finally concluded that the lion's share of the shimmy problems with the S was caused by the tires, and all new S-Types with sport are getting the Michelins. Check Jagtalk.com for a very thorough discussion on the tires, but in a nutshell, the Pirellis were designed with European drivers (who routinely drive well over 100mph on the highways in Europe) in mind. At very high sustained speeds, absolute top performance is required if you don't want to end up a road pizza. The cost of such high performance is a noisier, less comfortable tire. At the more common US speeds (70-90mph) the same level of performance is not needed. The Michelins were designed with the US driver in mind. Much better comfort, without significant loss of performance at American highway speeds.
Unless you live in Europe or like to outrun state troopers on the highway, you are much better off with the Michelins.
I just got my 01 jaguar 3.0 type S without the owner manual (lost). While I'm trying to find one. Can anyone please tell me how to set the garage remote control and the digital clock of the car?
Your response is greatly appreciated.
Unless you have a rolling code garage door opener, then its tough..
To set the HomeLink:
Make sure the ignition is "ON" or the car is idling. (Manual will probably say to make sure youre stopped too.. lol)
First, press and hold both OUTER buttons until the indicator light blinks very rapidly. This means that the memory on it is "cleared" (You can also unhook the battery, but thats too much trouble). This can take as long as 60 seconds.
Second, hold in the button you wish to program, and, AT THE SAME TIME, hold in your garage door opener button.
The Indicator light will flash slowly at first, and when it starts flashing quickly (FLickering) you're set!
Hope this helps!
Bill
http://www.wardsdealer.com
See the cover story on the 02 S-Types
Bill
I bet it will start at $75-80grand... Nice car but ugly grill
$75-80K?? What? $70K or so for an XJR, $83K or so for a Supercharged Vanden Plas!
Bill
Who likes new Interior.
Other interesting notes on the new S-type. Us availability of a manual transmission and a six speed automatic. The mesh grill has a long history in Jaguar tradition especially on high performance cars.
Ooohhh!!!
YAYAYAYAYAYAY!!! =D =D =D
Bill
Who cant wait till a fac demo 5-speed hits the block
2009 BMW 335i, 2003 Corvette cnv. (RIP 2001 Jaguar XK8 cnv and 1985 MB 380SE [the best of the lot])
The shimmy seems to be a very evasive animal. Some have it and can't seem to get rid of it regardless of what is done, some have it initially but have gotten rid of it with balancing, alignment, new tires, etc., and others never experience it. Were the S-Types you drove 2002's or earlier? I've only driven 2002's, and none have had any shimmy at all. Mine is a 4.0 Sport, and before I bought it I drove a different 4.0 Sport, a 4.0 w/o sport, and a 3.0 w/o sport. Every one of them was smooth as glass up to ~90mph (which is the fastest I personally would ever go). Before I took delivery of mine, I had them balance and align the wheels to be sure they were perfect from the start.
I'm certainly no expert, but this is my opinion: I don't think that there is a design flaw in the cars, per se, but that they are very sensitive to things like alignment, balancing, etc. I bought a set of 16" take-off wheels from a 2000 S-Type which I had fitted with Michelin Pilot Alpins for the winter. When I first drove the car at highway speeds after putting them on, I finally experienced the shimmy everyone talks about. I gave them about 250 miles to get worn in (I have a 96 mile per day commute), and when it got no better I went back to the tire shop and had them re-balance the wheels. They did so and said a couple of the wheels were "ever so slightly" out of balance (he mentioned one was only 1/2 gram out). He told me that on the majority of cars, this would be within tolerance and you would never feel anything, but that with some higher precision cars, being even a tiny bit out is noticeable. I'm happy to say that after the re-balance, the car is smooth as glass again.
My suspicion that Jag decided that the P4000's were the culprit is an educated guess based on my experience with my car, and what others have said about the Pirellis. I've never personally driven on them so I can't say from experience. Several have posted that the Pirellis tend to wear unevenly, and I suspect that if this is the case, it could cause the balance to become off enough to create a noticeable shimmy.
You mentioned that you have the MXV4's on your kitty. I had them on my Lexus GS300 (which the Jag replaced) and still have them on my wife's Avalon. I personally think they're super tires, and had no trouble with them on either car. Again, I'm no expert, I'm a gas passer by trade (anesthesiologist), but what I would do is ask the tire shop to check the balance again with the caveat that they need to make them as near to perfect as humanly possible. Their definition of "OK" may be allowing the tires to remain a fraction out of balance, which would be acceptable for other cars, but not temperamental kitties. If that doesn't do it, alignment has also been implicated as an issue, so you may want to have that checked as well (again insisting on VERY small error tolerance).
Hope this helps. Check out the JagTalk board I mentioned above. There are folks there who really know their stuff.
My Jag has been at the dealership 10 weeks of the last 15, and Jag doesn't think I have a lemon. Most sad, Jag Corporate doesn't think with all the problems I am having that they should give me a replacement car to drive while they investigate. Don't even try to mention you want a Jag to drive, they will just laugh in your face. "This is not Jaguar policy to give Jag loaners". I told them that a colleague of mine who owns a Caddy in Chesapeake Va. always gets a Caddy to drive when their car is in service, even if it means pull a new one off the lot. "I'm sorry, that not out policy". DO YOURSELF A FAVOR, DON'T BUY THE S-TYPE. To twist the knife even further, I paid $58,065 (fully loaded 4.0)in December 1999, car trade-in value today $29,900. Go figure. In just two years damn!!! So unless you put a hefty amount down, you might be upside down for more than 2/3 of your payment ownership, and hope and pray that the Jag isn't stolen or totaled.
Jaguar Service Neglect: Scratched 3 rims in replacing tires, broke off engine cover buttons near windshield, scratched fender and rear door handle repairing faulty rear door lock, also severely mauled the inside door handle housing. Replaced clock that couldn't keep time, cracked Navigation screen in the process and damaged lighter to point where it wouldn't work. Spilled chemicals on seat causing permanent stains. Switched dealers......no better service. Assessment: Too many Jags, not enough dealers or mechanics, rushing work to get the money. And Jaguar Corporate has the never to ask in their mailed surveys "Do Your Mechanics Act Like They Love Jaguar?"
Trust me, this is my first Jag and my last.
Oh yeah, I read the comments on analog cellphone in the 2000 S-Type. Excuse: Jaguar surveyed the U.S. market in 1999, found not all states had digital, so analog is what we got". Remedy to retrofit for digital is $1,500 or wait for the 2001 Jag. So now I am stuck using Verizon as my carrier.
The questions was also raised as to the best deal. I brough my Jag via internet. Sent out requests for bid throughout the East Coast and Ga. Asking any dealer if anyone would bit on my offer: "I'll pay full sticker price, if you pay luxury tax, sales tax, tag and title and associated fees (worth $7,000). A Jag dealer in Delaware on Pennsylvania Avenue bit on the deal. However, I think they were counting on making it up with providing the financing. I appeared with a check from an internet finance company for the full amount of car. At first, they tried to tell me that they didn't know if the check was good, and that they had fraudulent check before from internet companies. I pointed out to them that the check was from one of the largest banks in the country, and to call if they had a problem. So they decided to offer me 1% lower interest rate to go with their company. So I did.
I've also had nightmare cars which broke down incessantly and I can tell you from experience you won't get anywhere with these manufacturers unless you actually sue. I've done it twice and have been totally successful both times (vehicle buyback at an appropriate price). Prior to filing suit I was stonewalled constantly and given the same lame excuses you received.
I really believe most manufacturers figure they will just compensate those who push them to the wall and statistically come out ahead because most of those they ignore will just go away eventually and just sell their lemons.
My advice? Don't let them get away with selling you a defective product. Wouldn't Sears replace a crap refigerator? Most likely yes so why should someone who sells you a product that cost 100 times as much get away with causing their customers such grief.
He wasn't implying that Lo-Jack should be used as a navigation device. Only the police can track the Lo-Jack signal.
Since this sounds too good to be true, does anyone have any advice or thoughts on this?
I have stayed away from contemplating an S-Type because I have heard they are unreliable mechanically and not great in snow.
"break trail" in the deep stuff and may want snow tires if you live where it snows a lot, but you'll be OK, even without stability control.
Can't speak to the reliabiity issue. I did own a 92 XJ6 which gave me minimal problems in 4 years.
I will say that from a looks perspective the S Type is the cream of the Jag crop.
(not counting the XK8, of course)
As a matter of fact, if my finances permit I may look at the 2003 at the end of the year.
Step 1:
Grab Checkbook
Step 2:
Write check to Jag dealer for the white one
Step 3:
Be glad they didnt send the car to the auction and get similar $$ for it.
Yeah, it is a very very good deal
Bill
The 16" wheels are great in the snow.
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