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I can certainly afford a Prius or two but decided that the Echo fitted my requirements perfectly. I wanted an economical car and that is what my Echo is.
You should now be in LAN mode. Press 1 of the preset switches. The system performs a self diagnosis of the connected equipment and displays the results.
This from the service manaul. If you get this far write back for more info. (while i figure out the manual)
I love hatchbacks, and I love toyota...
My 2001 is at 84k right now and no problems to report. The car drives as well as on the first day.
My goal is 500k miles with the same engine and transmission. To make this possible I'm doing a transmission drain and fill on a yearly basis, using synthetic ATF. Engine oil used is Amsoil, with a dual filter/bypass setup, oil changes every 15k. Radiator is drained and filled on a yearly basis too. Other than that just regular visual inspections. Everything is done by myself so maintenance cost has been extremely low.
I'd rather not move to Europe to get a 5-door hatchback from Toyota or Honda!
Believe it or not, it's the interior design I like best. Very understated plastics and curves, with lots and lots of utility in its storage options.
Which is why the Matrix and Scions (as far as I can tell from a distance on the Xa model) are more glitzy and less utilitarian in their interior appearances.
The hatchback appeals to me less on looks but more on the confidence that I can be called on to load just about anything in it and the car will suit the job perfectly. We used our '88 Tracer hatchback in place of the Windstar minivan more often for hauling those oddly shaped domestic beasts of burden (lawn mowers, large TVs, and half an apartment on moving day).
by the time you add all the standard equipment (many of which can't be had on the echo), you'll see that the scion is cheaper.
since when is 32 mph in the city considered "poor gas mileage"?
looks like some can't see the forest for the trees.
Its too bad more people dont buy the ECHO. I blame the people...the car itself is amazing.
this is a straight comparison of the echo and scion xb. the weight difference is less than 400 lbs, not 600 lbs. the ride should be a lot better also. the wheelbase is 5 inches longer and the still managed to make the scion almost a foot shorter than the echo.
things like abs and traction control as standard equipment isn't "sickeningly sweet icing". all cars should offer such safety.
if gas mileage is your main concern, i agree. the echo is a good buy. if you want safety, decent mileage, smoother ride, and a nice audio system, then the xb has the echo beat in every catagory...
just an opinion.
yep, if drag coefficient is what you find important, the echo is the way to go.
On the one hand pretty bad sales figures, but if you consider that there is virtually no advertising and no promotion going on, then you would have to say it is pretty good.
-Andrew L
ECHO: 384
Scion xA: 3,486
Scion xB: 7,675
I didn't foresee the Scions having that much appeal. They must be doing something right.
Prior calendar year sales for ECHO:
2003: 26,167
2002: 30,859
2001: 42,464
2000: 48,876
1999: 10,490 (introduction as '00 model in USA)
Considering the population of Canada vs. that of the US, that would be about 28000 Echos sold per month (if consumers in the US would appreciate small and fuel efficient cars like we do).
Niels