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-mike
-mike
-mike
Check your gas mileage to see if it has decreased noticably - that would indicate the engine is running too rich. Why it would be running rich is another question, probably requiring a diagnostic trip to the shop.
Luke
I'm no expert in these areas, but my impression is that replacing the axle oil at 15,000 miles represents an unnecessary maintenance procedure, unless you're somehow stressing the fluids through severe weather or sever driving habits.
15,000 miles represents an unnecessary maintenance procedure, unless you're
somehow stressing the fluids through severe weather or sever driving habits. "
I would agree with you on what you said, IF, you have an ordinary open differential (2WD models). However, the 4WD versions have limited slip diff with clutch packs inside. The clutches degrade the oil faster than that of the ordinary diff. The front diff doesn't have to be replaced that often because it's not active (unstressed) on more than 90% of the time.
96 Rodeo
DC HOPp
-mike
I got my trooper at 16k miles, and I don't think fluids were changed. I've heard others say if they look good don't mess with them. Also, I've seen when people changed them, they had problems. So 30k sounds good to me.
By the way I just looked at my invoice and I was charged $62 for changing front and rear dif fluid at an Isuzu dealer.
What area do you live in? I've visited only one Isuzu dealer in the Detroit area (there are only 3 or 4 total!) and have been unimpressed.
For example, I asked my dad about coolant changes in the cars my parents have owned over the years. My dad said he never had the coolant changed in any vehicle he's owned. I was shocked, but then I thought about it a bit more. They've never had any serious mechanical problems with any of their cars, even though the only fluid he's had changed is the engine oil. I'm not recommending that people never change their fluids, but this little story is something small to think about.
I change the engine oil myself every 3,000 miles and use 5W30 Castrol or Valvoline synthetic blend with Isuzu filter. I consider the 3,000 mile oil change to be cheap insurance. Plus my Trooper uses about a quart every 2-3k miles, so I don't want to add more oil then change it immediately-- that seems pretty wasteful. Doing the change myself, it costs about 15 bucks for synthetic blend oil ($2 a quart on sale) with a genuine Isuzu filter ($4 from St. Charles Isuzu).
The TOD system fluid I changed accidentally at 10k miles - I was trying to drain the engine oil but accidentally drained the TOD system instead. I plan to change the TOD system fluid myself tomorrow and I'm going to use Valvoline Durablend (synthetic blend) auto trans fluid.
The coolant was changed, for the first time, last week by the dealer.
I have not changed other fluids such as the transmission fluid, front & rear axle fluid, power steering fluid, brake fluid, etc. I will probably have the axle fluid changed in the next 5-10k miles.
Is the front axle fluid and the "front LSD fluid" the same thing? I know that LSD stands for limited slip differential (at least in this context). Is it the same thing with the rear axle fluid and rear LSD fluid too?
I bought the '98 with 7k miles. It now has 40k miles. Since probably 25-30k miles, the seat has had too much forward/rearward play. When sitting in the seat, it's easy to make it slide fore or aft probably 1/2". It also squeaks quite a bit when you do this. The seat is noticeably loose.
Of course, the dealer found nothing wrong when they looked it over. Something about "checked for loose bolts or worn parts and found no problems". That's in spite of the fact that the service advisor got in the truck and rocked the seat back and forth while the seat squeaked very loudly.
The drivers seat in our Trooper has a very slight rock in the back, but the base is very solid. Now my Audi A4 w/11K miles has a serious rock to it...grrrrrr. But it's one of those things I'd rather have them replace near the end of the warranty rather than early in the warranty period. What's sad is the fact that my wife and I are both tall and don't ever need to move the seat. It's been in the same spot since we bought it and it still rocks. I'm not sure where the manufacturers are messing up with these seats, but I really expect better on a $30K car. Oh well, many other Audi owners have the same complaint.
The way I understand it, the same oil goes in the front and rear dif. However, if the rear is LSD then there's another bottle of fluid that gets added to "condition" the clutches of the LSD.
I bet Isuzu would like knowing that a Trooper owner's other vehicle is an A4. I see them as both being a bit different and a cut above the competition. Both vehicles represent the choice of an educated consumer. Anybody can buy a 4Runner or an ES300, but you probably did some research to end up with a Trooper or A4. The A4 has become more common these days, but the Trooper has not. Oh well, maybe you'll need to get into an S4 instead!
On a more general note...
I've been noticing that writing up a work/repair order is an art form. I've been to many Ford, Linc/Merc, Mitsubishi, and Isuzu dealers in the past 3-4 years, and there is a common thread to the way every service advisor at every dealership documents the "problems" that are explained by the vehicle owner.
The common thread is that the initial documentation never acknowledges that anything is wrong. Phrases such as "customer states that" and "check for" almost always appear at the beginning of any concern that's noted on the paperwork. There must be a Service Writing 101 course that every advisor must pass. Dealerships go out of their way to make sure they don't box themselves into fixing something.
My experience this past Monday with my local Isuzu dealer revealed two "check for" comments and a "customer states that". The loose seat was a "customer states that" even though the advisor climbed in and saw for himself how loose and noisy the driver's seat was. Of course, he never even acknowledged verbally that anything was wrong with it. I'll try to be smarter next time and work to get a verbal admission of the problem, or ideally a written one.
Also, I had the dealer rotate the tires (front to back). I check tire pressure frequently and keep it at the manufacturer's 30psi front/ 35psi rear spec. Today at the gas station I was able to confirm quite easily that the dealer indeed did rotate the tires-- I checked the pressure and, sure enough, the fronts were at 35 and the rears were at 30! This is the kind of stuff that is just unacceptable. I mean, Ford and Firestone are arguing over the importance of 26psi vs. 30psi on the Explorers. I can't wait until my vehicle is out of warranty. Then I won't worry as much about things that I feel should be fixed under warranty. What I can fix myself, I will. What I can't will remain unfixed.
I just realized I might be in the Phoenix area in April to attend a wedding. Maybe instead of flying I'll drive my Trooper cross-country just to have it serviced at a solid dealership!
It just happened again, washed it(in -20C) drove to the dealer, spent some time there and then the car moved/started with difficulty (with a jolt after releasing the clutch)!
This time I called the mechanic to do it and I've watched...When it moved forward a big CLUNK was heard from the rear of the truck(it was in 2WD), then we saw some particles of ices(maybe they fell of the truck)
The mechanic first said that yes, he would change the clutch, but he thought that the clutch was OK and then suspected that "the break pads got stuck, because of the ice" (BTW do disc brakes still have pads?)
He suggested that maybe I should remind them to check the brakes(they'll "oil them a bit also"?), but ....I'll have to pay for the operation if I'll ask for it when only an oil change is scheduled??!
I'll have to think about it, any hints?
The minimum I'm doing is to park it with the back in the garage, because it seems that the problems in reverse are worse(once it wouldn't budge at all for me, just revved)...I think I read about some Trooper owner saying the same at Edmunds.com....
I think how you present yourself at a dealer can have a lot to do with how you're treated. If you come in having researched a problem (ie is there a TSB?), be able to explain what's wrong, how long it's been wrong, and what you expect to have happen, then you will be treated as an informed consumer. For example, with your seat problem have you had someone sit in the seat and rock it while you are underneath with a flashlight? You may be able to find a worn or broken part. It's hard for a service advisor or mechanic to blow you off when you can show some hard evidence that a part is truly defective. Should you have to do this? No. But, it may get your problem fixed.
Of course the real trick is to come across an informed consumer without sounding like a know-it-all jerk. It's a fine line! You have to acknowledge and respect the fact that the dealer can help you or send you on your way. You can always try the "Man, I sure hope you can help me... my wife's driving me nuts about this seat" approach. That will get you further than the "You need to fix this or else" approach. Or else what? Most problems with a modern vehicle are going to be much more complex than a rocky seat. Many times we are simply at the mercy of the dealers. But they are at our mercy for repeat business. Remember, even though it's warranty work the dealer gets paid by Isuzu to fix your truck.
-mike
-mike
Why do I keep washing it in -20 C?
a) That's the freaking Canadian winter in Ottawa, Ontario
I haven't washed it for a long enough time, then the roads were wet(some snow, slush, etc) and I thought that yesterday was dry enough to spent money on the car wash...
But maybe it's a better idea to wash it when there are snow and slush? The next day it will be again salt under the car, etc, but at least won't freeze as easily?
Gee!
How often do other Rodeo owners wash their trucks in cold weather/winters?
-mike
Auto tranny fluid replacement is not recommended on the schedule - which is not to say it is a bad idea, just not required. However, the severe condition schedule is every 20K! That seems like overkill unless you are doing heavy towing. I plan on changing mine every 50K.
The schedule also doesn't recommend changing the TOD fluid, but I'll probably do that at 50K also.
Leaking oil pan is covered under the powertrain - I just got mine fixed 3 days ago
The rattling noise from the engine might be from a stuck lifter... try getting an engine flush. I just did that, it helped some, and cost $90 at the dealer. Another possibility for the rattling noise could poorly worn pistons/cylinders, but good luck getting the dealer to look at that. Another source of rattles is if the substrate in the catalytic convertor(s) has gone bad.
The rich fuel odor might be due to a problem with one of the fuel injectors. You might try getting the fuel injection system cleaned. Jiffy lube will do this for $39 or $59, something like that.
I got my differential oil changed at Jiffy Lube, they do that regularly and it cost about $39 an axle.
-lynne
Somebody mentioned that he replaced the front brake pads after 14K miles. I think that's too short mileage but I'm concerned because I'm now at 20K miles and have occasional brake squeal esp when cold. I haven't inspected it yet but I plan to replace them during my scheduled tire rotation and balancing, while the wheels are off.
The isuzu front pads costs $61 while the Autozone's "Albany" brand is just $20. Your thoughts please about those two brands. I will highly appreciate your input. Thanks.
MFP
Driving style is very important, on my last vehicle I went 142K miles before replacing the front brake pads! And I know other people that were replacing at 15K. So brake life can vary tremendously.
I recommend you have a brake inspection done, then decide if you need to do it. Places like Car-X will do it for free. I just hate to see people waste mony if they don't have to.
-mike
-mike
Independent shops tend to be the most reliable. Have a mechanic you trust show you what good pads look like and what worn pads look like. Here's a great story on the subject from a California TV station. If you are a fan of chain repair shops don't read this!
http://www.channel2000.com/news/specialassign/news-specialassignment-980504-233235.html
I am taking my rodeo in next week to see if the rattling is the catalytic convertor or not.
GLS