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  • esqknightesqknight Member Posts: 78
    $22,266 base + $535 Freight = $22,801

    Price isn't everything though. I was able to get $200 over Van Bortel prices with the options I wanted, and I'd like to think that 14 hours of my life is worth $200.
  • bedabibedabi Member Posts: 149
    Mohud Evnt 7 - beaten by WRX!

    http://i-club.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=113955&highlight=results


    Last PCA auto-X - beaten by 3 WRXs (including a wogon) and 2 RS'!

    http://i-club.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=107917&highlight=results


    Beaten by 4 WRXs and 2 RS'!

    http://i-club.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=107651&highlight=results


    No hard feelings Mike, but it had to be told!

  • bedabibedabi Member Posts: 149
    I bought mine at Van Bortel, and I highly recommend them. I lovd the no-haggle policy thre, and I've yet to hear of a person who actually purchased a WRX from a dealer for less than I did. When my car came in (1st allocation in March), they gave me a call, i drove up from NYC with my trade in, and was only at the dealer for about 2 hours before driving back with my WRX sedan. You're right, the price isn't everything, the buying experience is a part of it. Van Bortel was a real pleasure to deal with, especially in comparison with the usual shark-like import dealerships I've been to.
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    You are right. The WRXs did beat me. But....The ones @ Mo-hud had R-compounds and a 5-speed.

    PCA was a wide-open course.

    Oh and the last one you posted was the same as the PCA one.

    All I said is that On a tight Auto-x course I can beat the WRXs if they are running street tires v. my R-compounds.Never claimed to beat RSs since they have the same low end power that the XT6 has.So I haven't been showboating there pal. I'll get a bunch of links now for you.

    Mo-Hud Event #7- 2nd in G-stock

    http://www.mohud-scca.org/Solo/2001/2001Season_files/sheet013.html

    1 WRX w/5-speed and R-compounds ahead of me

    2 WRX w/5-speed and Kumho 712s behind me

    Mo-Hud Event #6- 3rd in G-stock

    http://www.mohud-scca.org/Solo/2001/2001Season_files/sheet011.html

    1 WRX w/5-speed and R-compounds ahead of me

    3 WRX w/5-speed and Kumho 712s behind me

    Mo-Hud Event #5- 3rd in G-stock

    http://www.mohud-scca.org/Solo/2001/2001Season_files/sheet009.html

    2 WRX w/5-speed and R-compounds ahead of me

    3 WRX w/5-speed and Kumho 712s behind me

    NASA Event #8

    http://nasanortheast.net/results/NASA-Autox8-9-29-01.htm

    2nd in F-class, behind an MR2

    No other subies showed up

    NASA Event #10

    http://www.nasanortheast.net/results/NASA-Autox10-11-24-01.htm

    2nd Fastest Subie of the day, behind Joe Lee in His 2.5RS (Ahead of all other WRXs on the day) running corded R-compounds 1/2 the runs in the rain. 1st place in F-class.

    Palisades Auto-x #6

    http://www.wscc.org/results/2001/ax20011021.htm

    Fastest Subie of the day. 2nd in G-stock

    ahead of 2 WRXs (running in mod-classes)

    Palisades Auto-x #7

    http://www.wscc.org/results/2001/ax20011111.htm

    2nd fastest subie of the day (behind a legacy L)

    ahead of numerous WRXs

    'nuf said.

    -mike
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    I do know how to drive a 5-speed, just haven't had one to practice on for a long time. :)

    -mike
  • esqknightesqknight Member Posts: 78
    I am quite happy with my buying experience so far at this dealership. As I said, they only charged me $200 more then my print out from Van Bortel which I felt was pretty fair given the distance and the difference in overhead between far upstate and the City. Additionally, the service department has Sunday hours only for customers that bought the cars from their dealership which should definitely save me some time and inconvenience.

    Of course my review of the dealership could change in the future, since I don't have my car yet.

    Eric
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Talk to Ira over there. He is the manager over there as of a month or 2 ago. Very Very stand up guy. He was the manager over in SI before he went back to Brooklyn. If he is your salesman, tell him Mike from SI said hi, and he'll do good by you (although it appears he has done good by you already!)

    -mike
  • lark6lark6 Member Posts: 2,565
    You have nothing to be ashamed of as you have beaten a lot of people driving newer cars with more expensive rubber. Autocross is as much about the driver as it is the car (well, within reason of course). Way to carry the flag for old-school Subies!

    Ed
  • ramiller1ramiller1 Member Posts: 124
    In talking about the “cheap” interior on the Rex, people forget that the WRX is by definition a RALLY car!
    That’s why the front seat covers just zip out for when they get covered in mud and gunk. That’s why there aren’t any expensive carpets and floor mats—they are just going to get crudded up anyway! This is a car that will hustle you down roads that have big potholes, dead skunks in the middle of the road, freshly laid asphalt and God knows what else you might run across.
    This is a car for driving in the “real” world--it don’t need no stinkin’ Connelly hides and burled walnut on the dash, Mmmmm-KAY? Just give me the keys and let’s go drive! :)

    Oh all right—there is one thing I wouldn’t mind having. Momo makes about a million beautifully crafted shift knobs that would look great in the Rex. Only problem is, can’t decide on which one to get . . .do they give a discount for buying a half-dozen? :-P
    --RA
  • bedabibedabi Member Posts: 149
    You KNOW I'm not trying to knock your success in autocrosses, but things neded to be put in perspective.

    BUT, you did not merely say that, "All I said is that On a tight Auto-x course I can beat the WRXs if they are running street tires v. my R-compounds." You also just said: "As for #s. On the street those #s are meaningless. Stats are worthless when you get to the real world pal."

    Real World:

    **WRX and XT6 fighting for merged lane on highway on-ramp. Advantage: WRX.

    **WRX and XT6 fighting for open lane after red light because of NYC's ubiquitous double parkers. Both start at high RPM launch. Advantage: WRX.

    **WRX and XT6 on highway both attempting to pass big-haired woman tawking on cell-phone in weaving Expedition. Advantage: WRX.

    **Tight course of pylons in mall parking lot on 45 second course. Advantage: XT6 with auto transmission. (Frankly, I think Paisan in a Miata would be even better.)

    [Ha ha! When I start as a novice next year, you're gonna spank me!]
  • esqknightesqknight Member Posts: 78
    After my test drive, I actually started to like the WRX interior. Without a doubt, Audi has higher materials, but I like the simplicity in the WRX: the gauges are very easy to read, the seat and driving position were extremely comfortable (note - I didn't want to get out of the car), visability in all directions was outstanding, the leather shift knob fit my hand perfectly, and while the total package definitely isn't flashy, it sure felt solid and well screwed together. Also, my preference for seating is cloth and, if the choice is between a sunroof and a safer car...

    Oh, I also like the sleeper look of the exterior(sans the headlights which I also like), but I know that many people will disagree.

    Eric
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    You missed one thing in the quote up there.

    He was comparing my XT6 to his Sentra, not a WRX and that is where I'm referring to #s don't tell the tale.

    The NYC advantage would be the XT6. Unless the WRX owner is Al Fried Eggs cause in a case like that my $1000 car will nudge out the WRX due to scratch and dent factor meaning I don't care if I get another dent in it :)

    On any open road where the WRX is in it's rev band, there is no arguement from me that it will whip the RS, XT6, or just about any other car on the road. If you scroll through my 100s of posts you'll see that I've posted that before.

    -mike

    PS: can't wait for auto-x season to start.
  • bedabibedabi Member Posts: 149
    OK, my bad. ;-} (I just wanted to hear you say it! Again.)

    P.S. All Fried Eggs' driving style left him carless!
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Al Fried is funny. We actually wish he had been at the last Woodbridge Meet, cause 2 rustangs came by and wanted to drag. It would have been right up his alley.

    -mike
  • bedabibedabi Member Posts: 149
    Yah, I wish he were at the last Queens meet. Out of nowhere, while we were busy with some parts installations, these two guys looking like they crawled out from a rock came barreling down the parking lot in a red Dodge Dart that probably didn't even have a muffler it was so loud. Then they get out and yell, "OK, whooo's faaaast heeeeyuh!?!?" We all just ignored them, and they went away. I mean, we're responsible adults, right? Even Willie, and his WRX was dyno'd by TurboXS at 280 hp at the wheels, wasn't tempted. Now Al, on the other hand....
  • ramiller1ramiller1 Member Posts: 124
    Eric--I agree. The interior is very well laid out, Spartan but practical and unpretentious, and perfectly suited for the kind of car the WRX is.
    The Momo steering wheel is wonderful and the instrument layout is superb, as good as anything out there, IMHO.

    Don’t know why everyone seems to have a problem with the headlights. I think they are fine, in fact very distinctive. The Porsche 996 and Boxster have headlights that are a little peculiar, IMO, they give the cars somewhat of a cross-eyed appearance. But no one ever complains about those.
    --RA
  • barresa62barresa62 Member Posts: 1,379
    TurboXS specializes in a plug n'play version of the unichip. They now are offering a Stage2 version which pumps up the HP to 298. They do this primarily w/opening up the breathing of the WRX more and don't bump up the boost much at all. All this for $1699. It sure has my interest peaked. :-)


    http://www.i-club.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=124621


    Stephen

  • mudpiemudpie Member Posts: 3
    New: 6 days, 500 miles on my new WRX. Patience!

    Sti: Not the least bit interested, even if it were to cost the SAME. Too loud (bigger scoop, wing, rims, coffeecan exhaust tip, etc.) I would already prefer a more sleeper look to my WRX, which is why I won't be getting the Morettes (but I couldn't resist that beautiful spoiler). 'kay, at 32 I'm getting semi-practical finally.

    WRX: Got it because it RIPS, doesn't have $5000 of unneeded interior gadgetry & a sunroof that I won't use after 3 months & leatherette seats (when I was a kid, it was called VINYL), and works well as my daily commuter. There are other very NICE cars, but this one fits me perfectly.

    Dave C.

    ps: freespec, do you even *own* a car? Certainly you haven't even driven (or seen?) the cars that you are "comparing".
  • mgreene1mgreene1 Member Posts: 116
    The upgraded sound system is too boomy despite turning down the base on the stereo knob. I remember reading on i-club that there is an easy way to adjust the subwoofer but can't find the post. Does anyone know how to do this? TIA.
  • bedabibedabi Member Posts: 149
    There are now quite a few modification systems that look pretty good from reputable tuners:


    TurboXS, which features a harness for instant plug and playability without cutting any wires.

    http://www.turboxs.com/


    Coob Tuning, which has partnered with Aussie APS, who has a strong reputation for modifying Imprezas for years:

    http://cobbtuning.com/


    Vishnu Performance, owned by a very well known tuner in California, Shiv Parthek:

    http://www.vishnuperformance.com/


    M2 Performance, whose suspension system on a WRX set a Sport Compact Car slalom speed record:

    http://www.m2performance.com/


    And of course, Prodrive, the English tuning house that actually builds Subaru's rally cars, with their Prodrive Performance Package (PPP). While not really available here in the U.S. yet, this is a WARRANTY backed package in the U.K. that calims to produce 245 hp and 261 lb/ft with some exhaust changes and a remapped ECU. However, a Prodrive rep did say on i-club that Prodrive is presently developing a PPP for the U.S. He didn't say whether it would be warranty backed here though. But check out the package:

    http://www.subaru.co.uk/uk300/wr_sport_nf.htm


    Of course, any of these packages will probably void your warranty, unless Prodrive manages to give us the same package as in the U.K. But the packages will keep any WRX owner from any STi or EVO envy should either ever make it over!

  • barresa62barresa62 Member Posts: 1,379
    Thanks for listing the links...you beat me to it. ;-) I thought that it would be useful for those who want more info. I'm still seriously considering the COBB Stage1 version. I'm impressed with their attention to everyday driveability and to detail. I'm attracted to the TurboXS because of the plug n'play feature should the Soobie dealership get a bit bent out of shape about the mods. On a related note, I'm also getting OCDII scanner software from pocketlogger.com that works off a palm pilot. I've seen it in action and it's pretty neat. It will read out and decipher any codes that the mgmt system may throw out. The software costs $165 and the m100 palm pilot is $100. It would only take a couple trips to the dealer to read out codes in order to make up for the software investment. Of course, the palm pilot can be used for other things too.

    Stephen
  • esqknightesqknight Member Posts: 78
    I have a WRX Sedan auto (on order) which comes with the the Variable Torque Distribution (VTD) All-Wheel Drive System, the same system that comes with the VDC Wagon and Sedan. I am wondering what the actually equipment different is between plain VTD and VTD with VDC: computer, computer chip, sensors, etc? (Please forgive the cross-post, but this board seem to see somewhat more activity then the VDC board)

    Mostly just curious.

    Thanks,
    Eric
  • mdimartimdimarti Member Posts: 12
    I have eclipsed the 10,000 mile mark on my WRX wagon, and the Check engine light has come on again. I know that it is not a loose gas cap, and I only use "name brand" premium fuel. This is the 3rd time in the six months that I have owned the car. The first two times it was something minor, an air vent sensor, and some gas cap sensor. But this is starting to approach the non scheduled maintenance level of my old Cavalier, which is one place no person should visit. Is this a common thing with Subaru's (the WRX is my first). I have heard people say that initially Subarus tend to have a a few glitches that need to be ironed out, but that the long term reliability is great. Does anybody know if these glitches are some thing to worry about?
  • hunter001hunter001 Member Posts: 851
    The VDC Outback has the same VTD-AWD system of the Auto-WRX. It also has the VDC, which is essentially a stability system, that uses the anti-lock brakes to stabilize the vehicle during aggressive moves and also while taking a curve too agressively. But the VDC Outback lacks a Limited-slip-differential (LSD). If the brakes are overused, it could overheat and lose its effectiveness.

    The WRX on the other hand, does not have the VDC but has the LSD, which enables the side to side transfer of power, in addition to the front/rear transfer by the center differential.

    IMHO, I would prefer the LSD setup in the WRX to the VDC setup in the VDC-Outback, since the brakes are not taxed at all in the WRX. In the Acura TL-s (equipped with a brake based stability system - VSA), people driving it, would give an arm and a leg to have an LSD in place of the VSA. The VSA is generally switched off (by Acura TL-s enthusiasts) due to its intrusive nature during enthusiastic driving. The LSD on the other hand, aids enthusiastic driving.

    Later...AH
  • edge01edge01 Member Posts: 28
    I know this may sound a bit whiny, but does anyone know if Subaru's heated wipers from the Outbacks will retrofit to the WRX? My local dealer in CO is lacking in knowledge of anything other than how the cars look (which is disappointing). I've been living in the mtns here for a month now and my wipers have frozen solid while driving at least once a week.

    Thanks

    Ryan
  • francophilefrancophile Member Posts: 667
    I'm not certain but I think it is a heated section of the windshield, not the wipers themselves.

    Cheers,
    -wdb
  • subearusubearu Member Posts: 3,613
    On our OB, it's the glass that is heated, not the wipers. Have only had one winter to use them and they do seem to work well.

    -Brian
  • yellowbikedonyellowbikedon Member Posts: 228
    Mark,

    Bring your car into the dealership for a check. Chances are the fuel sensors need to be replaced. This can be done by re-programing the onboard computer. I had the same problem which was handled quickly and efficiently by Subaru. Haven't had a problem since.

    Hope this helps.

    Don
  • cptpltcptplt Member Posts: 1,075
    the only time I ever had a CEL problem with my 3 Legacies I have owned or still own was when my 92 L sedan had 60K and the ?camshaft sensor or something needed replacing. Never had a problem with a 92 LS wagon which I had till 90K and my 98 GT wagon has 60K now with no CEL problems. Seems the new Subies have CEL problems, too much electronic stuff nowadays!
    If you think you have a problem, I had to drive a 85 Audi 4000S Quattro for about 15K miles from new with CEL lights on nearly all the time before the dealer worked out what it was. My 87 Integra always lit up if the temp was greater than 90 and the sun was out!
  • teslamaniateslamania Member Posts: 18
    On Motor Week, they showed aftermarket wipers that were heated. I thought they somehow plugged into the cigarette lighter - if you have one.

    They also showed a "winter" wiper with a cover so that the snow and ice would not stick to the wiper.
  • paisanpaisan Member Posts: 21,181
    Don't forget one of the best modifications one can do to make your driving faster, safer and more enthusiastic is to go for driver training. The WRXs are really well setup (except the tires) and personally I think a good performance driving school would net you more good than a fancy exhaust or a chip.

    -mike
  • bobdolemitebobdolemite Member Posts: 4
    Mmmm, winter wiper sounds nice.

    I entirely agree with mudpie and paisan. Certainly the STI looks great and relatively easily I could up the performance of the WRX I have now. The WRX is more car than I'll ever need. People at work as me why I "settled" on the WRX. Difficult to explain, especially after showing them the car. I get to drive it home though and they don't. I love this car.

    Well, there is something I don't like, and no it's not the cupholder about which I really don't care--it's the trunk. I know this isn't a premium car but man that trunk cover is cheap. Can anyone point me towards an Imprezza trunk matt, or any suitable matt for that matter. I know it's a small thing.

    I guess the high insurance premiums is other thing that sucks. The WRX for me is more expensive to insure than any of the "premium" cars I was looking at. Price of admission, I suppose.
  • barresa62barresa62 Member Posts: 1,379
  • ramiller1ramiller1 Member Posts: 124
    It's like Louis Armstrong once said about jazz, "If other people don't know, you can't tell 'em." I think it's kind of that way with the Rex.
    IMO, people who look down their nose at this car probably aren't having much fun in life, and don't want you to have any either.
    After I had my WRX for a while, other people's reactions to the car became sort of irrelevant--I was just having too good a time driving it to really care.
    Give it a year or two and the word will really start to get out--you may be surprised to see one of your formerly poo-poohing co-workers pull up in one! :) --RA
  • ramiller1ramiller1 Member Posts: 124
    Each one has its pros and cons.
    The sedan has those tre-cool blistered fenders, weighs less and has 20mm wider track, so it's a little better for track and club events. It also has better visibility out the rear.
    The wagon costs less and has more cargo capacity. My wife is always sending me to the store for something, so the wagon is perfect for me. (Also,the lady next door thinks our wagon is adorable and has got her thinking about an OBS, so that's a plus.)
    If we had the dough, wouldn't mind having one of each! :)
  • barresa62barresa62 Member Posts: 1,379
    I have the wagon and upgraded to the sedan's 20mm rear sway bar about $100 w/tax & shipping. This mod alone really brought the wagon to the level of the sedan. I then, went further and upgraded to the a 22mm Whiteline front sway bar. Despite the wagon's 22mm narrower track I am hardpressed to notice any difference in handling between the sedan and my wagon now. Oh yeah...and did I mention (IMHO) the wagon looks better despite its lack of blistered fenders... :-)

    Stephen
  • bluesubiebluesubie Member Posts: 3,497
    Mark, any chance you did a search on the i-club? ;-)

    http://www.i-club.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=68907&referrerid=767


    -Dennis

  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    The WRX interior is a bit of an oxymoron. On one hand, the carpets are cheap, the sun visors look like JC Whitney close-outs, and the head liner belongs on a Kia.

    On the other hand, the seats are fantastic, side air bags are standard, an in-dash 6 CD changer is standard (lacking on many full blown luxury cars), and the dash uses mostly soft-touch materials. Ergonomics are very good and the gauges are big and easy to read at all times.

    The other thing is the structure feels very substantial, and NHV is very well controlled.

    If you ask me, Subaru spent the money on the hardware (drivetrain, chassis), where it counts, and not on fluffy add-ons. That's OK with most people, especially younger and more performance oriented folks.

    -juice
  • ramiller1ramiller1 Member Posts: 124
    as a fellow wagon owner I can appreciate your enthusiasm-- however, we are. . . um, guests over here on the sedan forum.
    Unless you really want to see us both get lynched, saying something like "saw a WR Blue Sedan with STi exhaust in traffic the other day and it looked really, really cool" might be appropriate right about now
    :-))).
  • edge01edge01 Member Posts: 28
    I've been talking to a few friends locally who have 2002 WRX's and it seems they are finding the same issue I am regarding thier clear coat/paint quality and I was wondering if anyone else has experienced this here.

    I picked up my WRX sedan in black on Nov 3. I then drove it 2K miles from Philadelphia to Steamboat Springs, CO to train for the Olympics this year. After arriving and washing the car the next morning, I found the clear coat had hairline scratches in it all over and the car was only 72hrs off the lot. Since then I've kept it washed once a week to keep the road grime to a minimum. Last week, I drove to Denver where it was in the 50's to wash and hand wax the car even though the dealer said they did it when I picked it up. After 3hrs of washing/waxing the car, I found it was covered in hairline scratches that clearcoat polish/glaze/wax would not take out.

    As I said, I spoke to friends who have the same car in various colors and they've experienced the same problem from things as minor as setting a stack of papers on the roof or wiping errant gas off the filler door and was wondering if anyone else had experienced this.

    Thanks,

    Ryan
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Black is probably the hardest color to keep clean, and the first to show imperfections.

    I'd visit the polish threads and see what products people recommend. Subaru's paint isn't the sturdiest, though I haven't had much of a problem with mine.

    -juice
  • barresa62barresa62 Member Posts: 1,379
    I like living dangerously...what can I say, :-) Actually, I wanted to share the info for those that might be on the fence about whether to get the wagon or sedan. Basically...you can have your cake and eat it too.

    Stephen
  • lark6lark6 Member Posts: 2,565
    I have a black '00 Forester S and the black paint after 2 years looks worse than on my last car after 7 years. Ironically the slate colored paint used to paint the lower body cladding (no monotone paint option in '00) has held up better than the upper body paint. I see this as more a factor of poor paint quality than of my inability to keep the car clean, as I have had other black cars in the past. I've found that I can remove most scratches by hand with 3M Perfect-it products but swirl marks remain, and I'm kind of wimpy when it comes to using an orbital buffer (with this weak paint I'd probably burn right through it).

    Still I liked black better than the other colors offered for the Forester, and I like black better than the other colors offered for the WRX. It's a shame Subaru couldn't improve paint quality; not all R&D money need go into the drivetrain.

    Ed
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    It may be that the cladding is plastic and a little more flexible than the sheet metal. Could also be that the primer used for the cladding sticks better than the primer used elsewhere.

    I like my grey cladding, it's like teflon. Subaru should cover the whole exterior with the stuff. ;-) Talk about a utility vehicle.

    -juice
  • bluesubiebluesubie Member Posts: 3,497
    What about Klasse? I've read some good things here on Edmunds about it being good for black paint.
    -Dennis
  • binder4binder4 Member Posts: 1
    I have a Subaru WRX in the Pacific NW. Since it rains up here more than most places I hope I am not the first to have this problem.
    When driving in the rain I get a check engine light. It has happened at 20 MPH, 30 MPH and up to 70 MPH - a total of 12 times. In addition to the Check engine light, the AT Temp light starts flashing.
    The dealership has read the codes several times and say that it is saying that a Mass Air Flow Sensor is malfunctioning.
    They have replaced the Mass Air Flow sensor, O2 Sensor, Engine Control Unit and Transmission Control Unit. All of this has not cured the problem.
    What I would like to know is. Other than this dealership (they say six WRX sedans are having this problem) is anyone else experiencing this problem?
  • p0926p0926 Member Posts: 4,423
    Ed- Do you really think that the paint Subaru uses differs that much from what other manufacturers use? Maybe they put fewer coats on but the cost of quality paint vs generic can't be much when taken as a percentage of the cost of a $25k car. Personally, black is my favorite color also but it sure does show dirt!

    -Frank P.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    I've seen paint peel off the bumpers of some newer Dodges and Oldsmobiles. Subaru doesn't seem to be any worse than average.

    Michael: I've heard of one CEL here, another there, but never as many as you describe from the same car. Do you have another dealer close by that can give you a 2nd opinion?

    -juice
  • dill6dill6 Member Posts: 120
    My advice is to lower your expectations of the paint job - then you can tell yourself, hey, it doesn't look THAT bad!
    Seriously, I dropped a small metal part while installing the roof rack on my silver WRX that wasn't very large or heavy. It glanced off the passenger side door and took a chip right out of the finish coat, down to what looks like the primer. That's pretty funky, and would never have happened on my Integra from such a small impact.
    So I'm resigned to this paint looking old before its time - that's not to say I'm happy about it. At least they've finished all the pre-Olympics road work here in Salt Lake - a friend's base Impreza wagon has been here through the past four years interstate rebuilding period and his paint looks really, really, bad.
    Hey, what event are you training for? We're starting to get pretty excited about the games.
  • esqknightesqknight Member Posts: 78
    After listening to the paint stories, I am wondering just how wide spread this problem is. It is difficult to resign yourself to not carrying how bad the paint on your car looks.

    If it is a wide spread problem, what is the possibility of painting or having the car painted after a few years? I know that the orginal paint is for sale at subaruparts.

    Eric
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