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We had windows tinted. There was water dampness inside car from process.
On way home, one window automatically went down anf the steering wheel moved.
Returned and dealer said it would be okay when it dried out.
Today it is still doing these things.
Has damage been done? If not, what should or can be done?
Taking it back tomorrow to dealer.
Appreciate your direction.
would be ok when it dried out? I left my window
down on the drive side and it rained and had the
about the same problem. I would open all windows about half way and put a fan in the car overnight. The windows half way
down will work best.
Dennis
I returned it to the seller, and I believe he is going to replace the "mother board" just to be sure.
Can I assume you have had no lasting effects from the dampness?
Thanks
The best price is not always best, and good dealer service is not easy found.
Dennis
get hot if the oil cooler fails. A failure of this type should
show a code on the dash, but then again? I would drive the car
and get it up and make sure the transmission is not hot. You said you drove 20 miles, but did not say how. 1 mile heavy
city or steep hills is harder than 20 road miles on any cars
engine and transmission. If the transmission is indeed hot, call a Jag.dealer.
let us know if there is a real problem or not!
Dennis
I assume this is a warning of some kind.
Seat belts are on !!
However, there is a light out on the rear light bar. Could this be the cause?
Drying out did not fix the problem. As a matter of fact, they only waited one day and replaced the necessary "board."
Do have another electrical...kind of...question. The chimes go off five times in groups of five. I assume it is warning me of something. There are no dash lights on. The only known thing is that there is a rear bulb out of the light bar on the top of the trunk. Could this cause it?
Making me crazy, not to mention concerned that I am missing something.
And one more quick question. Sorry, but when I find someone who knows something, off I go
The console how two releases. The bottom one being the phone.
Cannot seem to make the top latch do anything.
Suggestion? What is under there?
I receive approximately every 20 minutes five chimes in groups of five.
I do not know if this represents a warning or if perhaps it doesn't think the seat belts are active.
Question: Any idea what this would represent? Any reason I cannot disconnect? Had windows tinted and the "mother board??" had to be replaced on the driver's door. Could there be a problem in this area?
Help as it is driving me crazy !!
I have to say, i think the Merc is wonderful engineering, but BORING. Just not elegant, or really special looking.
So I guess the feedback I was hoping to get from you nice folks was:
1) Am I silly to follow my heart more than my head?
2) shoudl I be worried about the expected sale of jaguar?
3) what do you guys think of the difference in the driving experice between the e-class and the XJ? I am going to dirve the XJ today (I am very excited) so I will have my own opinion soon.
Would love any feedback, support or jeers you all want to send my way. This purchase is of course occupying much of my mind these days. Would love some other - perhaps more informed - opinions before I slam down a $40k CHECK ;-)
Thanks in advance for any inut!
Mike
Doe sthe XJ8 feel significantly more sprtiely than its 5 inch longer sister?
And thanks for the inp0ut on pricing all. It seems that there is a pretty comon $6-8K premium going from a 2004 to a 2005 even with similar mielage. I don't think there was that much changed, So I may be focusing on a lower mileage 2004 now.
mike
I purchased the exact same car that you describe for my wife... a metallic silver/ivory Vanden Plas, loaded with DVD rear-seat entertainment, CD-changer, and all the goodies, including Jaguar-Voice, Bluetooth, chrome 5-spoke rims with performance tires, XJR wire mesh grill, (now standard on your model year), and more. I got the car for thousands UNDER invoice, and some of the extras for free, and I also received an extra thousand-dollar incentive directly from Jaguar for visiting their display at the International Auto Show, and purchasing within 90 days of the visit.
The car has been absolutely perfect with zero issues thus far.
I don't know your location, but here in California, there are numerous competing dealers, and that certainly is good for a buyer.
Your $6200 cash-back sounds good, so long as it goes to YOU and not signed back to the dealer. You might inquire what the lease terms are on the '08 just to make sure it doesn't make more sense overall. Also, it sounds like you are very close in your difference with the dealer anyway, as the difference between 1% and 2.18% is about one thousand dollars. Perhaps there is an option or accessory that you want to acquire that they could throw in the deal, or perhaps they can give you a break on an extended service agreement. I was fortunate that the '05 was the last year they included the 4 years of total maintenance as well as the warranty, although they also provided me an extended 7-year service contract as part of the deal.
Again, depending on the competition in your area, you might be able to squeeze a little harder... but it sounds like you might be close to making a reasonable deal.
Good luck.
TagMan
Are there any specific things/issues to look for at the '01 VDP? I was thinking it might be good idea to get an independent 3rd person to inspect the car since I am not a mechanic. Any ideas how to find a guy and what it would cost? The car comes with 2 month warranty by the used car dealer but I think it would be a good idea to get an extended warranty. Any recommendations out there? I looked at Easy Care (owned by Ford) at it sounds pretty good. Can you actually get a warranty through Jaguar itself? Since I own 2 MB's I am used to "high maintenance cars". How is the maintenance on the '01 VDP? How often do you change the oil etc.?
Any input is greatly appreciated!
Thanks, Matt. – matthes_us@yahoo.com
Look for the Leaper to be replaced by a round Red dot above its grill!
NOMASJAG
The XJ series have been very trouble free cars for the last 10 or 12 years. The X-type and S-Type are not so trouble free. They are more Ford than Jag, but the XJ has been and remains a vehicle built only in England and to higher standards.
If you have used more than one Jag dealer to do these repairs it could also be that one of them "sabotaged" your vehicle, setting it up for problems. This can be relatively easily done on any car via the ECU or other ways. Unfortunately, this sort of thing happens way to often and is actually a result of cars being built better and better and, in truth, not needing as much maintenance or repair. Consequently some of the "low lifes" generate their own work and a big paycheck. A rash of similar and related problems like you mention is more common in more vehicles than one would imagine. And they virtually always (when there is a THREE time failure of a specific item or a related component especially) are the result of the human factor rather than the machine. I've driven nearly every foreign and domestic vehicle except for the really exotics or stuff we can't get stateside. I'm 62 and will own and drive at least one Jag as long as I live. But I WILL stick with the genuine article, the XJ series. I just tell it like it is. There are both good and bad wrenches and dealers. You can get a real lot of fine automobile if you buy a one or two year old model, because, unfortunately for some- fortunate for others, they depreciate a lot. Their poor reliability record from many years ago still haunts them. Good luck to you... but don't give up on Jag.
Robin (they call me "The Car Father") 8>)
PS... if someone has done a number on your '99 you could continue to have problems so after 8 years it may be time to bite the bullet. Buy an '05 or '06 XJ8 with low miles, certified and with a clean carfax. The V.P is nice too but the extra $ is hard for me to justify. (Even though the XJR brings as much- but it has GOBS of guts!) And find another dealer. Remember, you don't have to see them more than roughly once a year during the 4 year warranty so if you have to drive a ways, so what.
Thanks for your reply. I agree the new Vadam Plas are too much $ for what you get. I DID like Jaguar but not all the problems. You might be right about my dealer but there is only one dealer within 100 miles. The reliability problem is confirmed by consumer reports, thus the depreciation. Any suggestions on how to make my local dealers life miserable. After all I invested a lot of $ and received a negative return? Still afraid of Jag especially the cost to repair the new aluminum bodies and the bad experience with the dealer. By the way this dealer was the only one that worked on my car.
Maybe time to bite the bulet and go to a reliable car. I hate to say it Infiniti M35 highest rated. Hate to do the Japanese thing but tired of spending time with my car in the shop. Besides there service is a 100 times better than Jag, they actually care about retaining customers. I don't think the Indians(tata motors) will be any better. Besides with the high value of the English pound the car and its parts will be more expensive!
Thanks,
NOMASJAG
Any comments or advices are appreciated!
Thanks, Matt.
It seems like there are some conflicting reports regadring when Jaguar stopped using the Nikasil engines. What I found in my research was, that if the last 6 places of the VIN start with the letter 'F', then the vehicle does not use Nikasil and is fitted with steel liners. According to this the '01 i was looking at does NOT have the Nikasil. Do you have other info on this hofiii?
I am just checking out the jag-lovers.com forum; a lot of info there.
Thanks, Matt.
Matt
A friend of mine is considering a 2008 XJ Vanden Plas... list is $76,000.... what would a realistic offer to give the dealer?
Thanks,
Mark156
However, sales have been awful ever since this new generation (2004-) was introduced. So price should be very negotiable. It is too bad, because it is a wonderful car with great amenities, good gas mileage for the amount of power, comfort, reliability, handling, efficiency, etc. The VDP is especially nice with better leather, a leather covered and stitched dash, better wood, better sound system. Beautiful car, but dealer cost is about all they can reasonably expect.