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Jaguar XJ-Series



  • marsha7marsha7 Posts: 3,703
    I keep watching the weekend ads for 2000 or 2001 XJ8L...maybe in the not-too-distant-future...sat in the rear of a friend's 2002 XJ8, space was quite cramped...but the car was stunning...

  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    Get an XJ8L or a Vanden Plas.. dramatic difference.
  • 97vdpguy97vdpguy Posts: 111
    Boy, are we glad to see you back, Bill! This board just wasn't the same without you!

    I have a question.. I went to check my oil the other day. It's been around 3000 miles since my last change so I'm due. But when I pulled the dipstick out, there was this white foamy "goo" on the dipstick. It almost looked like the oil was frothing a little.

    Do you have any idea what could cause that? Obviously, I'll get the oil changed, but I've never seen that "stuff" in my oil reservoir before...

  • willimjowillimjo Posts: 73
    It's difficult to diagnose through cyberspace without seeing the situation personally, but I can think of two possibilities:
    1) The oil was overfilled, allowing the crankshaft to whip through the reservoir of oil sitting in the oil pan. This can whip air into the oil and cause foaming. "Foamed" oil does not flow well and can be a cause for lack-of-lubrication problems.
    2) Water has gotten into the crankcase and has emulsified somehow with the oil. Oil emulsions also offer poor lubrication.

    I'm sure there are other potential causes for what you see on your dipstick, and are probably more likely to be the true cause. But the point is, what you are seeing is not normal and is a cause for concern. I would not delay a moment from having the oil changed.
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883

    Hmmm.... Could be a blown head gasket I suppose causing water to mix into the oil. OTOH, in over 300 X300s sold I have seen ONE "Failed" head gasket. It was leaking oil externally (96 VDP.. 79K miles) and was minor. Was a select car so haha Jag paid for it!

    Are you doing nothing but short trips maybe? Could be unburned condensation. Looks like Mayo, right?

  • Hi Bill,

    I am in CT and am looking for a 99 or 2000 XJ8 VDP or XJ8L, loaded with low miles. I would prefer a light blue / tan, silver/tan, or platnium/tan. Would also consider a deep emerald green/tan.

    What can I expect to pay for these cars with low mileage and in warranty? How much more for a select edition of the same types?


    Joe Rebot
  • jlapcatjlapcat Posts: 7
    I own a 98 XJR, posted a message (#1429)last August 02 about a horrible noise from the engine that Jaguar service couldn't hear. Finally, last October, after several more trips to the dealer, the timing chain was replaced. On the way home, black smoke poured into cabin, oil leak. Several more little problems, last week rear differential replaced. I've put 15K miles on the car (at 52K miles total) in the 15 months I've owned it. It spent 3 months total in the shop--got a new transmission as well. Great car to drive, but something breaks at least once every 6-8 weeks. Everything so far has been under warranty, but what an inconvenience!!!
    So, dealer wants to help me out (?) and get me into a newer car. I have 28K left on the loan. They're offering a 2001 XJR w/ 18K miles for $46000 and will take my car back for free (?). This doesn't seem like a good deal for me. Any thoughts on this one? Dealer said the 2000 XJRs are more reliable than 1998-9. I put down $5K on the 98 and purchased Lojack for it, so I am out significant dollars on this, plus I had a great interest rate of 3.9% which they can't give me.
    But I got to dump this car, it is possessed.
  • As far back as I can remember ive always wanted to own a jag and lately ive been looking at the 1990 and 1991 xjs series. I test drove the 1991(the seller posted it as "collectors", has 60k miles, and the body and interior are in excellent condition his selling price is $9000). I've never driven a jag up until then but noticed that for a 12 cylinder car it dragged and didn't seem to have the power I expected. My questions are...

    1. Is $9000 too much to pay for this 91 model?

    2. What makes the 91 xjs a "collector" as suppose to a 90 xjs? I thought I read that jaguar only made 300 or so 91 this true?

    3. What should I pay attention to when test driving the 90 and 91 xjs?

    I would GREATLY appreciate any advice you can give about purchasing and maintaining the 90-91 XJS

  • Hello Anyone:
    I have a 98 Vanden Plas. Do the brakes always feel mushy? Several time I have had to add brake fluid. I know when the brake pads wear down the fluid level also goes down. Even with the brake fluid level full, the feel on the foot petal is mushy? Any help. Bill you can respond too!

  • I am considering a new car and can't stomach buying another car from a country which hates the US, which in my mind rules out BMW and Mercedes. I like Lexus and Infiniti. I've never consdiered Jaguar because I have not fit in them. My old boss had an XJ8 and once we went to lunch with me and 2 other 6 footers in the back seat. It was a joke with us trying to contort ourselves into the seats. I was glad to hear they are increasing the size on the 2004 and may therefore consider it. Does anyone know when it will be out, and could anyone comment based on experience or expectation about the increased dimensions, particularly concerning interior space and comfort? Thanks.
  • bhill2bhill2 Posts: 1,787
    The interior space on the 2004 XJ8 is a whole different story than in the outgoing model, at least the short wheelbase one. It's also gotten pretty good pre-launch press. I don't know when it will be out, but my impression is around the fall.

    2009 BMW 335i, 2003 Corvette cnv, 2001 Jaguar XK cnv, 1985 MB 380SE (the best of the lot)

  • Thanks for the info. Also, does anyone know whether there will be a long wheelbase version for 2004 which will be longer still?
  • 97vdpguy97vdpguy Posts: 111
    Thanks for the input. I don't think the head gasket is blown. The engine compartment is still spotless (I've never had a car that upon being 6 years old only needed its engine compartment to be "dusted off" from time to time to remain as clean as the day it was purchased!). I'm not leaking or burning anything either (that I can tell).

    Yes, the stuff on the dipstick looked like Mayo. I had the oil and filter changed, and for the moment, everything is looking fine. And yes, I do only drive the car mostly on short (40mi) trips to work and back. But summer is coming!!

    I'll keep an eye on this and see if it starts making sandwich spread again.
  • litlrivrlitlrivr Posts: 11
    Anyone know what the wholesale is on an '01 XJ8; Silver, black hides, 15000 mile, immaculate?
  • kcoombskcoombs Posts: 1
    Hello anyone, I am looking to buy a new car and am looking at Benz E320 or a Jag XJ. what would you buy? I know it is comparing apples to oranges. I live in Colorado with lots of snow. I know the 2004 Benz will have all wheel drive along with the Jag 2004. The price of both will go up also I am sure, do you think it is worth the wait and the price difference to get the all wheel drive?
  • rea98drea98d Posts: 982
    The new XJ has AWD? That's a new one on me. I new the baby X-Type did, but didn't know they were putting it on the XJ8
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    That is NOT Normal... I'd see if they can just fix your car. $46K isnt a steal either, although your 52K mile 1998 is not worth anywhere near 28K as a trade... come to think of it seems like a more than fair deal.

    But that's far beyond tyhe norm.
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    Let's see...

    1) Hell yes if it's a Coupe. No if it's a ragtop. If it's a ragtop that's cheap, if it's a coupe I think it's high by $1,500-2K assuming it's mint.

    2) They are not collector's items. They are used cars. Jag made a HELL of a lot more than 300 XJSs in 1991.

    3) Everything. Engine oil pressure should be strong, and get up to presure quickly. Smooth, quiet, watch for HUGE oil leaks (They ALL leak a little) and rust, cosmetic problems. Leather and wood are VERY costly to fix.

    Hope this helps! Wonderful car, $$$ to keep running.
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    I just put front pads and rotors on the 98 VDP I am driving right now.

    Pedal is usual XJ8 mush and I have bled em 3 times now. You can try flushing the whole system.. but it's about the norm.

  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    See my report below.. you will be amazed :)
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    Just seemed weird to me.. keep an eye on it. If it IS a bead H/G it's a $500 job if that at a good independent.
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    Where is the car? What options?
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    Only AWD Jaguar is the X-Type. Although an XJ with SNOW TIRES and the optional Dynamic Stability should be OK.
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883
    Well guess what's out in the UK now.

    And guess what we just got as a company car for our manager in the UK branch of our company? And guess who hogged it ALL last week? :D

    (Disclaimer, this is a 262hp 3.5V8 car that we wont get)

    HOLY ****! WOW! GOOD GOD!

    Here's the deal. Rides like an S430/500. Quieter and smoother than a BMW 7 Series.

    Handles amazingly well, IMO, as good as the BMW. Steering feel is just freaking amazing (And I always have liked the steering on the X300 over the XJ8) Handling is very predictable and surefooted. Car I drove had 235-50ZR18 P6000s, US-Spec cars will have crappo Conti CH95s :(

    Brakes are excellent. Car feels light.. feels athletic, VERY secure and stable. Amazingly tight. A few small trim bits feel cheap but overall very solid. This car is as solid as an old Mercedes.

    It's quick and smooth too. VERY quiet.

    Very comfortable, FINALLY it has headroom and decent rear-seat legroom. Cabin is a LOT bigger and airier.

    Trunk is huge.

    Car is SUBSTANTIALLY Improved...

    When the first XJ6 came out in '68 it set the world on its' ear and was called the best sedan in the world. ditto the XJ40 in 1986.

    17 years later Coventry has done it again. This car is amazing.

  • jagboyxtypejagboyxtype Posts: 241
    Nice report, but it's a Jaguar, what did you expect? :-) And you forgot to mention something the car has always had over the competition - styling.
  • rea98drea98d Posts: 982
    "And I always have liked the steering on the X300 over the XJ8"

    I thought the X300 and the XJ8 were the same car.
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Posts: 4,883

    X300 (95-97 SWB Sedan... LWB is actually called X330) only LOOKS like the X308 (XJ8.. LWB XJ8 is X338)

    Mechanically they are VERY different. Friend of mine has an XJ8 and an XJ6 (96 and 98) He prefers the 96 to the 98 except for the power. As do I.
  • pluckonpluckon Posts: 12
    Does anyone know if there's more driver leg room in the new model? The earlier models are very cramped, and this is probably the reason why I didn't buy one a few years ago.
  • patbowpatbow Posts: 1
    Can anyone help with advice on two problems with an otherwise great 2001 XJ8?

    First, from the time the XJ8 was brand new until now, coolant has been slowly lost. Several times the dealer ran pressure tests (once overnight) with no leaks found. It looses about 6-8 ounces in 5Kmi or so (my guesstimate). There is a slight coolant odor at the radiator when the engine is hot. Temperature gauge reads normal and no warning lights or messages.

    Second, during the first 5Kmi, it used about half a quart of oil. Since then it has been using a quart every 2-3Kmi (the car now has a total of 17Kmi). The dealer thinks this is normal; it seems excessive to me.

    Thanks in advance for your help.
  • rea98drea98d Posts: 982
    So let me get this straight...
    We have the:
    Series I
    Series II
    Series III

    And they are all called XJ! This can be confusing!

    I knew there were some engine and suspension changes between the XJ6 and XJ8 which made the 8 the better car, but I thought they were both the same basic platform, and I though the X-300 was basically an XJ-40 with new sheetmetal. So exactly how much does a 98-03 XJ have in common with a 95-97? With a 94?
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