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Subaru Impreza WRX Wagon
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Himiler: if you didn't like the manual, stick (pardon the pun) with the auto. A short lever makes the throw shorter, but you lose leverage so the effort required actually increases. I happen to like that, but you may not.
-juice
Cool! Im not one of the only folks who likes the easy Auto "plop" down to third gear to get the WRX turbo spooled for a quick jolt of accell at highway speeds
Are you saying there is no STi wagon in Japan?
http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/sti/line/line_wagon.htm
Dennis
Stephen
Here's the dealer info you requested:
Romano Subaru 315-475-7933 Joel Surace
(mention my name to Joel, I bought my '00 RS from him)
Bill Rapp Superstore 800-887-7277 Tom Calahan
If you can't reach Tom, try Randall Gordon
(I was a walk-in with Tom, so he won't know my name--Randall knows me, though)
Romano didn't have any wagons in stock, but can get them from other dealers in 2-3weeks.
Bill Rapp had 2 wagons in stock.
Hope this helps.
So, after the light came on, I drove to work, and immediately called the dealer that I bought it from. All they could suggest is to drive it back, but I was at work (40 miles away). Then, the svc. person told me to call SOA roadside assistance, who said they could do nothing, except get the car towed to the dealer. That was a bummer. Then, I called the local srvc. dept. closest to work, and they told me to bring it in. Immediately, I drove the car there, and left it.
I called them back at about 3 pm and they told me that they have an error code p1443, and have notified Subaru, and that they are looking into it. Then, they told me I could come pick the car up, so I did. Once I got the car, the lady at the svc. dept. told me that it's some kind of "evaportor" situation, within the emissions. Now, they want to take the car back, take out the computer, and send it to Subaru, who will then fix it, and send it back. This is gonna cause me "x" amount of down time, with the vehicle.
What I would like to know, is if this is going to be another "lemon" provoking situation? Is it a really harmful thing? or something that happens, from time to time? Another note, the dealer where I bought the car, sold the car that I ordered, and found the one they sold me thru a dealer locate. Supposedly, the people had to drive it down from Kingston to Rye, which is a good 200 miles, or so. Of course, I have no idea how these people drove the car, and given it's potential, I am inclined to assume that they
"tested it out."
I guess that I am just really worried/paranoid, since I have been in a bad predicament with the R/T, and having seen the check engine light come on after driving the car at less than 60 mph, for a day and a half, really worries me.
Any thoughts would be appreciated. And goodness only knows that I have been very patient about the whole situation, thusfar, but being this worried about a new car does not help my mind rest with ease.
Thanks all, will post and let ya know what happens, when I go to the dealer today, and [non-permissible content removed] them out. Let's see what they have to say for themselves!
phatride01. (I guess I should change that to 02 hehe).
I'd say that Subaru is being extra cautious by having the computer shipped to them. Also, I don't think they're going to fix it (cause it's only doing its job) but simply analyze the error codes. It shouldn't take but a few days and your dealer will give you a loaner. Yes, it's inconvenient but at least they're being proactive in trouble shooting the problem.
Bottom line: I don't think you have anything to worry about and your WRX is a long way from being a lemon. However, if you want to sell it cheap.... ;-)
-Frank P.
I have not had another CEL experience since that time. I did consider the problem solving and correction of the problem by both SoA and the local dealer (Delray Subaru here in Florida) to be outstanding and certainly not overly long.
Have faith. I am on my third Subaru. My wife and daughter also own Subarus. This is really a company that CARES about its owners.
Hope this information helps restore your faith.
Don
Nothings actualy wrong with the car, it just likes to blink the light at you :P
Thus, after the tank from the dealer was drained, I added some 92 oct. and things seem a WHOLE lot smoother. I guess I shant be worried too much, and will hope that once the ECM is modified by SoA, that everything should be alright.
Everything else with the car is awesome, and everything is cool with it. I am just waiting for the rear-dif. protector, which the dealer will install, once I get the car back with the "upgraded" computer. Other than that, I dig the ride, and it's a very functional vehicle. Of course, I have not judged the turbo yet, cause I have been keeping it under 4000 RPM at all times.
One question I do have though, is about the constant velovity issue. The manual almost contradicts itself by saying that the car should not be driven (during break-in) at a constant velocity for too long of a period of time. Then, the manual states that after a certain "driving speed" is reached, the driver should "maintain" that speed. Now, to me, that is really confusing. However, given that I babied my last car, for six years, and bought it new, I never had any troubles, after I broke it in. So, I guess the way that I break it in seems like a good enough way.
Please advise, and once again, thank you all for your help. At least my mind can rest in peace, for a little while.
Happy driving!
phatride01
-Frank P.
I'm ready to order a wagon TODAY, and am really bothered by this info. I will be driving on the highway non-stop, and get hit by stuff all the time in my Acura (still on its original windshield, although it's sandblasted now). I'm ready to get full glass coverage for the WRX, but still am concerned. I could be replacing the front glass every month!
Are these owner reports overblown? Anyone here get a crack yet?
Nonetheless, I have not even driven the car more than 400 miles, (yet), and I love the thing. besides the minor issue of the check engine light, I have no complaints. Plus, I have a wagon, and have no idea if the glass in the front is the same as the sedan, but maybe that is a difference. Not sure what kind of cars are having the glass issue, but I hope that it's not a big one.
Take care, and good luck with the decision.
And P0926, thanks. I guess I have been taking care of the car, by driving it locally, as well as on the highway. Most of my driving, however, involves Highway commuting (80 miles a day), so I am sure that driving locally on the weekends allows for the car to see some local miles, in which the speed varies.
Other than that, I love the pull that the car has, from first to second to third, even at low speeds (of course, I have not gone over the 4000 RPM) limit, as I want to provide a lasting experience for the car. I suppose that premium gas totally helps, and once I go over the 1000 mile mark, I may just try a tank full of 94 oct. hehe.
The only other thing I noticed is people trying to push my patience, and goodness knows how hard it is to stay under 4000RPM...hehe.
Well, all, happy driving!
phatride01
-juice
-juice
What adverse effects might this have on the vehicle/drivetrain/engine? I mean, I have done this with a previous car which took me to 136K miles. I was not afraid to do it with that car. I am sure the WRX is MUCH more capable (no offense to my 95 Stratus ES).
However, since this is the first Turbo & AWD vehicle that I have owned, I was just wondering if anyone had heard anything about this level of power, and it's "true" capabilities?
Let's stir things up with this one. Does anyone feel that the WRX driver would be able to deny an M3 driver? Possibly present him/her with the pleasure of eating dust?
Again, this is just for my curious purposes. It's one of those things that I would not "do at home." Take me to the track in about 14K miles...and I may!
Thanks, and happy driving!
phatride01
PS... I apologize if I offended anyone with my previous post. It was deleted for masking a "no-no" within the message. I did not mean to be offensive, at all. Apologies to all that took offense. And I will make sure I mention the issue to the Service Manager! Will let ya know what happens, JUICE (cause I think only you and one other person read it...apologies to the host!).
thanks, perrito
-juice
Stephen
http://members.i-club.com/ViewMemberPics.cfm?MemberID=249
Another blue wagon, but again w/aftermarket wheels
http://members.i-club.com/ViewMemberPics.cfm?MemberID=109
Still no word on my car yet. The dealer still waiting for the computer to come in from SoA, so hopefully it comes in QUICK! I hate having to drive a rental Focus! GEEZ!
Later all, will keep ya posted.
Phatride01
Later all.
phatride01
You saw a rental at autocross? LOL!
-juice
I saw a little kid "beating" on his WRX sedan the other day, in a residential neighborhood. Hope he does not damage it.
Mine is alright, just one other little glitch. The rear windshield wiper fluid does not come out. Any suggestions?
Other than that, the last 100 miles of break in HAVE to be the WORST! hehe.
later,
phatride01
Is there any fluid on the floor under the car? Do you hear a pump kick in when you try it?
-juice
-Frank P.
Could it be that it takes a while for the fluid to reach the back? I mean, the first time I tried the front one's, only the left one worked, till the fluid came into the right hose, and started spraying. Yet, even after several attempts to get the rear one working, I could not. Luckily I remembered to pick up the wiper, so that I would not scratch the glass.
Oh well, something else that the dealer will try to resolve, come Monday, when I have to go get my rear-diff. protector installed.
thanks for the input,
happy driving.
phatride01
Stephen
Is there some place that I am missing?
Nonetheless, I will keep tinkering with the nozzles, to see if it finally starts to work, although I have not had any luck yet.
Thanks for the response.
phatride01
That may be a way of letting owners know it's low before it's completely empty and you cannot see out the front window.
-juice
I know the body's narrower because of the fender flares and whatnot but the differences in suspension make me wonder about varying geometries, performance, etc.
cheers,
twj
They're nuts! That's the weakest argument I can think of for coming up with this silly two different tracks solution. If they truly believe this, then they really are nuts. IMO, the wagon looks more timid than the sedan because of the narrow track
Also, on Japanese WRX-STi wagon, because of the narrower track and lack of fender blisters, is forced to wear the smaller 215/45x17 tires of the regular WRX, rather than the larger 225/45x17 that the STi sedan gets.
Having two different tracks on this vehicle is a really stupid decision on Subaru's part, IMO.
Bob
Aftermarket rims with a different offset could push the wheels further out, thus widening the track, but you have to watch out for the steering and other issues with suspension geometry.
-juice
As far as I can tell, there are no leaks, and I have noticed ALL the black pipes that lead from the resevoir tank to all their respective places. The one for the rear windshield comes out of the bottom of the tank, attached next to this white cylinder. (It may be the motor, but I am not sure).
Other than that, I was going to try and get a vacuum, and have it "suck" the washer fluid, to then back, while attempting to have the motor crank, in the process. This may resolve the situation.
Isn't the dealer supposed to check these kinds of things, before they give delivery of the vehicle? Bad customer service from this dealer. Geez.
Anyway, I will let ya know if it does start working, with the vacuum trick.
Later, and thanks.
Happy driving,
phat.
I think the wagons fenders look much better. If the sedan's fenders would've been more 22B than Forester (no offense :-)), it would've looked a lot better. I also think more wagon than sedan owners also like the sleeper look.
Dennis
The car is awesome, as a wagon, IMO, and I am glad to have chosen it!
Now all I gotta do is take off the WRX badge in the rear, and it will totally be a "fast as all heck sleeper."
later,
phat.
-juice
To me this just a case of the tail wagging the dog.
Bob
And then the wagon shares body work with the TS and Outback Sport, and those didn't need the more expensive suspension parts.
I would have wanted wide-bodies all around, but another reason may be the higher taxes in Japan for certain widths.
-juice
Otherwise, why spend all the extra money needed to develop and manufacture a new front bumper skin (sedans and wagons are different), front fenders and all the related suspension components for such a subtle visual change—on a car with a very specific pricepoint?
To me, it's not that the sedan's fenders look that much better than the sedan; it just seems like a lot of time, effort, and money was spent on this aspect, with little net gain one way or the other. I think the money could have been better spent.
Bob
Engine displacement is the other big issue. That's why they sell so many 600cc microcars, and why most Subies get the 2.0l engine (albeit with 156hp, not bad).
-juice
Bob