2013 and earlier Honda Odyssey Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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  • gm1plangm1plan Member Posts: 1
    I just got the last 2008 EX (no DVD package) in my area for out the door with TTL and fees for 24500, Sales tax here is 7.5 How does that compare?
  • hondaphanhondaphan Member Posts: 35
    Just closed on a Silver 2008 EX-L with Factory RES and Navigation for $31,550 out the door in Northern CA. Over $2k of that is the California Sales Tax, so the van itself was $29k and change. I think we could have pulled another $750 off it, but the price was good enough and 2008 EX-L Navi/RES units are getting thin on the west coast (unless you want white - there's plenty of white). Very pleasant experience. Did the email quote route and ended up buying from a local dealer who did a dealer trade for the one we wanted.
  • jaybird3316jaybird3316 Member Posts: 1
    cool. That makes me feel about right. I bought a 2008 EX-L RES w/o NAVI for 28,500 that included backup sensors in Florida. My first Honda!
  • MollyMaguireMollyMaguire Member Posts: 3
    Sorry to leave you hanging these past few days. I bought an '08 Odyssey EX-L w/ NaviI & DVD from KLEIN HONDA in Everett (Sean Green, Internet Manager). He did a dealer trade, for the color I wanted, with a dealer several hundred miles away ($150 fee to bring it in). I also had to purchase a few add-ons that were already on the car (mudflaps, all-weather floor mats), but I was considering these in any case. KLEIN's was still the lowest price bid I received, edging up to $29K (including transport fee of $670, but not TTL) -- about $3400 under invoice. And I also got 1.9% (36 mo) financing on the deal. The Internet Manager was very responsive, very straightforward, very helpful -- he just laid out all the details and options and gave no BS. He also spent more than 90 minutes going over the Odyssey's every feature and function.
  • MollyMaguireMollyMaguire Member Posts: 3
    I did a close consideration of buying the '09 instead of the '08, and found that the actual difference between the model years was minimal -- BlueTooth and power lift on the rear door are standard on the '09, but the invoice price is up commensurately as well (>$1K higher). With Honda's $3500 support to dealers, an '09 would have bottom-lined about $6K more than I paid for the '08. I tend to keep my cars a long time (the last two were 11 and 13 years old when I let them go, and I still have an 18 year old Benz), so the depreciation offset isn't very important to me.
  • willenj1willenj1 Member Posts: 3
    We are in the market for a Certified Pre-owned Odyssey--not sure if this is where I should be, so if not please point me in te right direction. We do not want to go back more then 4 years, preferably three, but was wondering if there is a year in that span we should stay away from? Do the Odysseys hold up through all trim levels? One vehicle we are considering is an '05 Touring with under 40k for $19995. I see on here I may be able to find a new '08 LX for about the same, any suggestions? Thanks for your time.
  • tampa2tampa2 Member Posts: 18
    I'd stay away from 2003 and 2002 models because of the transmission problems. 2004 is top rated by consumer reports, no transmission problems. 2005 is rated OK, 2006 and 2007 are rated very good. If I were looking I'd go 2004 or 2006. I've owned a 2003 and currently own a 2007 Touring.
  • cincyodycincyody Member Posts: 11
    Hello all,
    I am new to this forum and am looking for some good advice! We are in the market for an Odyssey and do not want to have to pay more than we have to. We have scoured dealers on the internet and locally to get the prices offered on this forum but noone seems to budge!
    They almost kick us out the door or do not email us anymore! Is this a tactic or are they really not interested in selling to us at 25000 for exl and 26300 for RES?
    End of the year is here, the colors are very few and they still won't budge.....what gives! Should I wait or just give them the extra $600 they want? :mad: Help!
    PS this is in the Cincinnati area.
  • davidingilbertdavidingilbert Member Posts: 53
    Cincy - What I would do is do a search in this forum to see what others are paying or at least getting offered.
    It could also be a geographic thing. I know in Phoenix, the dealers were not as quick to negotiate as they are on the east and west coast for 08 EX-L.
    Try that for starters...
    Dave
  • willenj1willenj1 Member Posts: 3
    Thanks for the response. Did you purchase both of your Odysseys new?
  • hondaphanhondaphan Member Posts: 35
    My only advice if you're looking at the older touring where PAX wasn't optional is to NOT get it. They made PAX optional later on the touring because it's a TERRIBLY EXPENSIVE thing to maintain. $1500 to replace tires (almost twice as frequently as normal, too) is what you can expect instead of $500-600 for a nice set of regular tires that last twice as long. You can't downgrade a PAX unit, either, so you're stuck with the expense over the life of the van. It's one reason the used Touring Odysseys with PAX are so cheap many places - the word is out on how lame PAX really is.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,798
    In my experience, the lowest prices are at Performance on Rt 4..

    Might take some time and gnashing of teeth, but they usually will have the best price...

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  • willenj1willenj1 Member Posts: 3
    Thanks for the advice! I will not go anywhere near a Honda with the PAX system. After reading your post, I checked another blog and it was nothing but bad news about that system.
  • cincyodycincyody Member Posts: 11
    Thanks for fast response! I actually went to Performance Honda and they told me not to waste my time! I came in there with an offer of 25000 for the EXL and wanted a good price on my trade in. I did not think that was too much to ask, but I do not think they were impressessed when I pulled out the "folder" that had NADA and KBB prices. I also had prices paid around the country that verified my offer. Anyway I think they were either laughing at my offer or thought I would comeup on it.
  • hondaphanhondaphan Member Posts: 35
    Seriously, the email rodeo is the best method to get a price near the rock-bottom. Look up all the dealers within a hundred miles or two, email ALL of them, and pick the best one. In fact, I set up an email JUST for my honda shopping "hondaodyssey2008quest" at a free provider (gmail, hotmail, yahoo, etc), and used a name not exactly like my own until I picked the quote I wanted to pursue. Wasting your time in person before you have a hard quote you like is just that - a waste. Also, a trade-in muddies the waters. You're probably going to get your best deal selling the trade-in car on your own.
  • cincyodycincyody Member Posts: 11
    I know the trade in is killing us on the purchase but thought we could get a great price before the end of the end of the year and the financing at 1.9% is a teaser.
    I did a lot of price shopping on the internet and that has not gotten me very far or should I say close to my price! :( They just do not want to budge much.
    Were you able to negotiate via email any better? I tried to pull the "I will come pick it up today for that price" and "I will give you all high marks on a review" :sick:
    I still had no luck and they stopped emailing me! I actually purchased the CRV for a lower than internet priced as a walk in customer. I thought I would do the same but I think they try to pull your chain more.
    One internet dealer actually raised the quoted price on me! :mad:
  • hondaphanhondaphan Member Posts: 35
    First, I'd leave the trade off the table.

    Second, email ALL the dealers (whether they show stock or not on autotrader.com) with your specific request and the mention of the 100% score on the satisfaction survey to the dealer you close the deal with. That's IT - don't make it too wordy, and don't tell them about your aunt sally's love of red cars. Overly chatty turns off some people. The dealer I eventually went with didn't even have stock on the one I wanted, but they had the best quote, even AFTER doing a dealer trade to bring in the one we wanted, so zero 2008 stock should not stop your initial email to any dealer in range.

    From what you get back, start paring down the possibilities. Almost 50% of my initial emails went unanswered. No biggie, I didn't need them if they didn't need a sale. I had plenty of quotes to choose from. I WAITED a couple days and the really competent ones emailed ME to see how they fared. From there, it was just small details and the deal was done with a final quote. I walked into the store, did the honda financing deal, signed the sales contract and was out of there in about 70 minutes total (most of which was waiting on the financing part to be approved). About as close to a 100% internet deal as you can get, I think.
  • bigdadi118bigdadi118 Member Posts: 1,207
    Not everyone in every region get the bottom price 25,000. Try another way which is email your local dealers with same form letter and see how low they can go.

    The 08 is getting less and less and the big price different with 09 model lead dealers not rush them out the door.

    http://www.realcartips.com/articles/carbuying/how-to-buy-a-new-car.html

    They do have a good thorough post on How To Buy A Car For The Lowest Price.
    It is just like the Donkey Punch method but more detailed ...
  • nobodyyouknownobodyyouknow Member Posts: 21
    Since it's been three months since I bought, I'll reveal that it was purchased from Mall of Georgia Honda. They still show 18 2008's on the lot.

    Again, it was $25000 for an EXL inclusive of destination & the "processing fee". Only extras were tax, tag & lemon fees.
  • niandersnianders Member Posts: 2
    Thanks to everyone here for their help and opinions. Purchase today 12-19-08

    2008 Odyssey EX-L (last one on the lot)
    Dark Cherry Pearl

    $25,000 plus TTL, and "fees" 7.75% sales tax
    Northern California
    $27,254 OTD
  • bigdadi118bigdadi118 Member Posts: 1,207
    Congrats ... that 25K is the low price...
  • hondaphanhondaphan Member Posts: 35
    I couldn't edit the initial post I made, so here's the post with the breakdown of the 2008 Odyssey EX-L RES+Navi we picked up this weekin Northern California. We got the price down to $29,059. Invoice was $36,445, our OTD price was $31,532. Here's the breakdown:

    Base price $29,059
    Tax $2110
    Doc $55
    DMV /license $308

    OTD price $31,532

    Very nice experience at Crown Motors in Redding on this sale. The internet staff is ace.

    The *only* thing we don't like about the van so far is the armrests on the front seats. They're multi-position, but if you lift them up, you have to "re-find" the height you prefer. It's really annoying. Otherwise, the van's a huge upgrade from our 2000 Odyssey we bought new (and waited on a 6 month list back then!). They've added SO many features!
  • cincyodycincyody Member Posts: 11
    I am now in the 27000 price for an 08 Oddy with RES + tax. The only problem is that I have a trade in and the dealership is 100 miles away. There are just not many left in the Cincy area. Is is worth it to go that far to buy a car and then if the deal goes sour for some reason they have you there! Any thoughts?
  • bigdadi118bigdadi118 Member Posts: 1,207
    Prepare to sell the trade-in yourself.
  • cccompsoncccompson Member Posts: 2,382
    Here's another thing that you might try. Make your out-of-town deal on the new van and then supply the store with a highly accurate and objective description of your trade (include all optional equipment) and send them some high quality pics. They might be willing to give you a firm number subject to the vehicle matching your representation.

    Whether it's down the street or 100 miles away, you must always be willing to walk away if the dealer tries to pull some crap.
  • bigdadi118bigdadi118 Member Posts: 1,207
    I hate to do this because the one didn't do the job gets the business ... but you drive not far to get your trade-in look-at / offer.

    Ask your nearest dealer(s) to match or beat the written quote offered by dealer 100 miles away.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 267,798
    Whether it's down the street or 100 miles away, you must always be willing to walk away if the dealer tries to pull some crap.

    Good advice there..

    100 miles? That's an hour and a half..

    Three hours of your time on a Saturday? I spend that much time looking at cars, just for sport.. ;)

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  • bigsmokybigsmoky Member Posts: 3
    Just purchased a new 2008 Ody Touring (no PAX). Price $33,750 plus $250 dealer add-ons (could not avoid) and $400 documentation (many dealers charged $350 for documentation) = $34,400 plus tax/title.
    This model was difficult to find. By mid Dec, there were none left in CA and only a few on AZ.

    We ended up purchasing from Right Honda in Scottsdale, AZ. Internet sales dept was very helpful.

    There were few dealers who gave competitive quotes in our SoCal area.
    Dealers who were helpful and had seemed to have good internet sales depts:
    Galpin Honda
    Honda of Corona
    SanTan Honda

    Incidentally, several 08 RES/NAVS were still available in SoCal and AZ. Quotes we received were $29,400 plus tax/title.
  • dr_gdr_g Member Posts: 21
    Which dealers in SoCal did you find (get quotes from) that had 2008 EX-Ls with RES & NAV? I'm willing to drive 100 miles from SoCal (LA/OC border).

    For reference
    I got the following as my lowest quote on a 2009 EX-L w/ RES & NAV (local dealer in SoCal)

    Invoice: $37,525 (including destination)
    Offer : $33684 (before doc fees $55, TTL)

    I need to buy the vehicle before 2008 ends for tax purposes, so I'm in a hurry and my job isn't affording me much time other than emailing.

    How does this 2009 quote sound to those of you in the market?
  • chwtomchwtom Member Posts: 46
    I am in Wisconsin, so a totally different market, but the internet offers I have been getting have been roughly 25-25.5k for EX-L, 27-27.5 for EX-L with RES (if you can find one--I can't), and 29-29.5 for EX-L with RES and NAV. All dealers are quoting about the same thing for each model, give or take around $500.

    These are all 2008 prices, but that's a solid $4k off what you are hearing for 2009s, which is worth a drive IMO.
  • hondaphanhondaphan Member Posts: 35
    Do you NEED a 2009 RES+Navi? Or are you just considering that because the 2008's are drying up? Saving about $4,000 seems to be the norm in taking 2008 vs 2009 on the RES+Navi. I would look for a dealer that will bring in a 2008 Res+Navi for you from another dealer if necessary and save the 4 grand on essentially the same van (especially if you don't mind white. Seems there are more of these left than anything else). Dealers hungry enough to bring in a van for you from another dealer are out there.
  • chwtomchwtom Member Posts: 46
    Has anyone out there recently been able to get a dealer to do a dealer trade for a 2008 Odyssey? I'm looking for a 08 EXL with DVD (no nav), but haven't found one in my state of wisconsin. Most of the dealers say they won't do a dealer trade for an 08, but one said they would get one from Illinois. I'd like to think he will, but when everyone else says they won't it makes me skeptical.
  • dr_gdr_g Member Posts: 21
    So I finally found one in SoCal but it's a Demo model that was used by the dealership supposedly - has about 5K miles on it. Externally looks pretty clean except a little scuff on front fender, interior looks clean but not new.

    They said they would do 10 cents/mile which too me sound crappy ($500 off). Also, it's a white one which I don't care much for. Figuring I can get them to do 29-29.5k, would 28.5-29k sound reasonable for one with 5000 miles on it?
  • hondaphanhondaphan Member Posts: 35
    I just had a dealer local to us do a trade on a 2008 EX-L with RES+NAVI. It's covered in post #21157. Just a hair over $29k before TTL. Very satisfied. Did you email ALL the dealers within 100 miles of you, even those that don't show stock?

    I don't know where you are in WI, but I just did a search for any 2008 Odyssey within 200 miles of Allentown WI and came up with 184 NEW 2008 Odysseys on Autotrader.com. Start sending emails to each of those dealers and work it!
  • hondaphanhondaphan Member Posts: 35
    Sounds like a crap deal to me. White 2008 EX-L with RES/Navi are all over the place NEW on the west coast (I know, I saw a ton when we were looking for the Silver one we eventually got). FEW seem to want them. If you go for it, I would ask for the $500 AND a 5 year honda care warranty extension.

    Autotrader.com shows more than 50 2008 EX-L Odysseys within 100 miles of Newhall (just picked a random city near LA). There's a brand new 2008 Odyssey deal in there. Have you emailed ALL the dealers (even those with one or less in stock - they might be hungry enough to do a dealer trade)?
  • i4gotmyidi4gotmyid Member Posts: 4
    I got a quote for EX-L with RES for 26999, which would be OTD for about 29365 in Florida...it seems like a good deal.

    I did the bidding thing, where I had dealers bid against one another.

    There is still one dealer, about 75 miles away who says he will beat this price by "atleast $500" but wont give me a quote, either written or over the phone, he says I have to come it to get the pricing...is he blowing smoke...the conversations were NOT good over the phone, he was really evasive/pushy and had a shady feeling...Can he really only offer me a better "deal" in person rather than fax/email/phone? Or is he going to bring me in for a hard sell.
  • arvai2arvai2 Member Posts: 7
    i4gotmyid -

    I wouldn't drive 10 miles without an email quote in hand. Why would he give it at the dealership but not over the phone? One reason -- he wants you in the door so he can pressure you into taking a bad deal.

    Personally I wouldn't waste my time as that guy sounds very shady to me.
  • bigdadi118bigdadi118 Member Posts: 1,207
    arvai2 is correct, why he can't sell you a car and reach a price over email but need you to come down.
  • dpatdukedpatduke Member Posts: 3
    I have been offered 35,800 + 700 (destination) for a 2009 Touring (no pax) in the Raleigh, NC area. They are out of 08's. Does this sound good?

    Thanks.
  • mplshondadlrmplshondadlr Member Posts: 409
    So there are just 50 '08 EXL to serve an population of 10 million plus people? I would say that if just .0001% of the population was looking for an Odyssey EXL thats still 1000 perspective buyers for 50 van's.

    No one is in a hurry to short sell 'em when they have a captive buyer.
  • dr_gdr_g Member Posts: 21
    So after I had the wife spend about 4 hours calling almost every local dealer in SoCal, I found about 8 new EX-Ls w/ RES & NAVI - one of them being the white one mentioned above that had 5k miles on it.

    After driving to Penske Honda in Ontario I have to say they are rude and unorganized. A sales rep hung up on my wife yesterday when she refused to give her phone number (I don't think we're allowed to post names or I would). My wife did call again (she's persistent) and spoke to a nice rep who said there was a Green Metallic (probably the most popular color) so we went there first thing in the morning. 1/2 way through the test drive I realized it was a 2009 (saw the key tag sitting at a red light - I didn't even bother looking at the grill). They had no 2008 w/ RES & NAVI. He assumed it was an '08 by where it was parked. An understandable mistake if you're lazy - all they have to do is look up inventory.

    Wife and I then drove to Honda Cars of Corona since they had a black/ivory one left. Car looked a little beat up inside for having only 25 miles. Tried to haggle with the sales rep and he refused to budge for 20 minutes. 5 hours later we agreed to 28,750 plus 1,400 for 7/100K extended warranty + TTL. It had a protection pack on it which I don't need for 450, but I know they can't strip that off the car easily so I was willing to go above the 29.5k mentioned here.

    I wanted to see if I could get the online extended warranty mentioned here but I remember somebody said CA residents couldn't buy it and the finance guy kept underbidding until I agreed to 1400 (I paid only 1k for my 2006 TL which I bought for 32.5k). All docs and fees were normal (not inflated) prices.

    Woodland Hills had a black ivory, Vista has a Blue, Palmdale (have fun driving there) has a silver. Think there are a few burgundy as well, a white one somewhere, a demo white in Irvine.

    Let me guys know what you think of the above deal and good luck with the hunt for 2008 EX-L w/ RES & NAVI - in SoCal it's getting slim pickings.
  • hondaphanhondaphan Member Posts: 35
    Sounds like you did all right, except for all the shlepping.

    We got the 8yr/120k hondacare for $1300 at the dealer when we bought it, so you were in the ballpark for that,too. Actually you got the color we were trying to find, but settled for silver.
  • chwtomchwtom Member Posts: 46
    I have spent the last 4 days wasting my time.

    I am looking for an 08 EX-L with RES (no nav). Nobody in Wisconsin has one, apparently, but that doesn't stop them all from telling me they do.

    This is what happens (it's like they circulate a manual telling them how to do this).
    I call, asking if they have any of these in stock.
    They say yes, why don't I come in and check it out.
    I say what color. They say they're not sure, can they call me back later, because they are so busy, or can I just come in.
    I ask them to call me back. They don't.
    Half a day later, I call back. They say they have a gray one. I'm so excited! I ask for a price quote. They say they'll have the internet person email me a quote. They don't.
    I call back several hours later. The internet person says they "were just emailing me right now" with the quote. I get the quote. It looks good. I say lets do the deal.
    I ask to confirm that it's gray. They go check. "oh shoot, that one sold". we do have a white one with the Nav package, would you be interested in that?
    I try not to swear at them.

    I got the same song and dance at 4 different dealers. So I gave up and bought a Routan with 0% financing for 72 months. I would've preferred the Odyssey, but I couldn't deal with that crap anymore.
  • hondaphanhondaphan Member Posts: 35
    Uh, more like few are in a hurry to BUY them. The post from 12/17 with days supply is quite enlightening:

    September 1 - 57 days
    October 1 - 71 (32000 vans available)
    November 1 - 97 (33000 vans available)
    December 1 - 113 (33000 vans available)

    113 days worth of Hondas with the lot numbers not budging as of 12/1, and if the pattern holds it should be 125 day supply or more by 1/1/09.
  • wingnut330wingnut330 Member Posts: 9
    Hello all,

    Here's is what I have on the table and would like to make the deal today so I can have it under the tree on the 25th. I'm in the Columbus Ohio area...

    EXL - $25,800

    EXL - NAVI & RES - $28,360

    I'm guessing I can shave another $300 off of each deal.

    So the question is, for a difference of $50/mo or $3500, do I go with the R&N or the base EXL? I'm hearing that the NAVI isn't a good value, but the wifey likes the look of it and thinks it might be useful. I'm ok with the base EXL, but it will be her car.

    The other consideration is the EXL has some dealer installed stuff on it like running boards. I don't want the running boards so they are taking them off. I'm concerned that once they are off, I now have new places for rust to form.

    What are your opinions?

    Thanks in advance!
  • davidingilbertdavidingilbert Member Posts: 53
    Wingnut - if you live in an area of Ohio with new subdivisions and such, the NAVI would be good. But one thing to be careful of, it could be just one more distraction that takes the eyes of your wife off of the road.

    In terms of the running boards, I believe that the running boards are attached via "holes" in the frame that are already there. I do not believe they have to drill new holes for the running boards. But I would ask at the dealership or post something at this website....
    http://www.odyclub.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=52

    Happy Holidays!
  • mplshondadlrmplshondadlr Member Posts: 409
    Those numbers are mostly for 2009's. The 2008's are SOLD OUT in Minnesota, yet we still get a ton of leads for them. As a result of high demand and NO supply we went and bought two truck loads from down south (24 in total) and have sold 20 of them at $2000.00 under invoice which is a savings of $4000.00 from the 2009's.

    The demand is still high for '08's (people still see a good value) versus 2009's which at present, have no additional incentive from the factory.
  • hondaphanhondaphan Member Posts: 35
    There are a couple things that make the Navi version more attractive for us, and well worth the price difference you quoted (GREAT deals, BTW):

    When you hit reverse, the WHOLE NAVI screen becomes a monitor for the backup camera showing what's behind you. On the EX-L, it's a tiny part of the rearview
    mirror.

    The Navi screen is HUGE and much nicer than the comparatively tiny add-on screens you can buy. We've always had good luck getting upgrades for the Navi DVD every 3 years or so (updating more frequently is a waste of money, imo). It's also voice activated, something the add-on navis don't seem that great at.

    The Navi screen also doubles (triples?) as a screen for the XM radio that displays detailed information on the title, genre, station, etc and lets you easily adjust stereo parameters via the touch screen.

    And, then the Rear Entertainment system is a huge bonus if you have kids.

    We had factory navi in our 2000 odyssey and have used it EXTENSIVELY on trips, so it was a non-negotiable for the 2008 we just bought - we had to have it. I would completely go for the 2008 EX-L RES+NAVI.
  • cincyodycincyody Member Posts: 11
    I have a quote for 27070 for an EXL with DVD but the dealer wants to put the all season mats on it ($210). I want them but I don't want to pay for them. Is that a good price and is it wrong for me to have them try to throw in the mats for free?
    They are not seeming to budge and I am scaed it will be gone as all the other ones have that have a DVD installed. Oh and the dealership is 100 miles away so time and money over the holidays is not money well spent.
    Any advise sure will help!
  • wingnut330wingnut330 Member Posts: 9
    Well, I bought the EXL R&N today for $28,200 +TTL. I also got the 6 Yr/120,000 mile warranty for $1,100. Seemed like a decent price on the warranty so I went for it.

    Now I just have to find a way to sneak it into my driveway to surprise the wifey on Christmas morning!
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