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DO NOT SETTLE FOR LESS!
binch017 wrote:
Recently finalized on a 2011 Touring at Eskridge Honda of Oklahoma City. All of the negotiations were through email and I highly recommend that approach.
This dealership claims that they will beat any other dealers price and they were able to do that for us. Below is the detail on our Touring deal.
MSRP (Including Dest) - $41,535
Invoice (Including Dest) - $37,683
Our Price (Out The Door) - $37,700 plus free tint, not including TTL
After talking to 2 different dealerships, they are trying to get us to buy for anywhere from $36,000 to $34,000. I laugh in their face, as that is way to high, for me, and I'm not willing to pay that kind of cash for our first van. This was for the EX with the above requirements. I told them, "give me your best and final offer, and I'll decide from there".
Then we test-drove a 2010 EX, and I asked them for the two things above, with the best and final offer requirement, and after they asked me how much I was willing to pay ($30,000, less TTL) and they came back with $33,500. I'm sorry, but I have friends in AZ who purchased an EX for 27,700, OTD ~$30,000. I told him, "thank-you, and have a good evening".
He brought his sales manager over to try and convince me to talk to them more, and I said, "No. I asked for your best and final offer, and told you how much I was willing to pay, and you turned me down, flat. I have better things to do", and I walked out the door.
They have since called me and tried to talk to me, and I told them that, when we are ready for look at the 2011's, we'll get back in touch with them, but I want their best and final offer, the first time, no if's and's or but's!
So my wife and I are considering going for the Sienna, as we got better quotes and consideration from the Toyota people, than we did with the Honda people. They were acting like we needed THEM, when in fact, it is THEM that need US! End of story. Good luck buying your Odyssey, people, as it's gonna be high, for awhile.
I have a brand new 2010 Honda Ody EXL, paid under $32K for it here in Florida. I drove the 2011 Toyota Sienna LE as a Rental for about 1 week, as my other Honda was in accident. I loved it. The Sienna LE had a V6, 6-speed tranny, bluetooth (Bluetooth SUCKS on Toyota cars as you can ONLY hear the other person you are speaking to on the drivers door speaker, which is located by your left leg, had the volume all the way up--Imagine that with SCREming kids...?) Anyways, it had back-up camera on a small screen in the center trip computer, it was an ok screen. Power double sliders, rear hatch was manual (who cares) Overall, I was impressed with the Sienna, the passenger seats in the 2nd row are on sliding tracks. I was able to slide them all the way forward touching the back ofd the drivers seat. I put my bicycle in the back comfortably without taking the front tire off, PLENTY of room in the Sienna.
How does the Sienna compare to the Honda ODY..? Well, the Honda feels much heavier. (curb weight 4,600) Toyota Sienna (curb weight 4415) Honda heavier, but NOT by much, However, Honda feels like it has more of a SOLID construction.
If I had to do it all over again, LEATHER, or Pleather is a MUST with Kids and mustard, However, I used my Garmin GPS, and portable DVD player for the kids while I was renting the Sienna. Paying all that extra Money for built-in Navi and RES gets very expensive, especially if those are things that you don't use every day.
Hope this helps, good luck with whatever VAN you purchase. By the way, if you like the VW Routan (aka Town and Country) VW is selling the top of the line Routans for $10,000 OFF. I would rather have a FULLY equiped Routan than a stripped down Honda or Toyota.
Here's the LINK to the Routan on Am-Ex Zag.com-->>
http://amexnetwork.zag.com/configurator.html?makeId=2275&modelId=1118&upfrontPri- - cing=Y
The price is the price in SoCal. The car price is good, the roof rail etc price is expensive. I didn't get the honda care package which the finance guy was offering at "$100 over cost" I believe that was 5year 80k miles for $455 (cost) + $100 (markup)...or any other combo with $100 tacked on.
The experience was good. It just took a while to get the car.
Financed at 3.9% for 60 months through Honda.
I did not want to chance waiting until the end of November to find a Touring in the color combo I wanted at the price I was willing to pay. Couldn't find a touring elite AT ALL. Especially one that was priced right. I was about the pull the trigger on the 2010 Touring for 35K, but then everyone wouldn't deal on that and the price difference wasn't big enough for me to not get the 2011 model.
Let me know if you want any info on all the dealers I dealt with.
Good luck!
I think that is an awsome deal that you are getting for the 2011 Touring Elite at a price of $38,923.42 from Weymouth Honda in MA. It looks like you did extensive research on the breakdown of the California DMV fees also (good for you)
I do have a question. From my online search, I found the following price quotes:
FROM ZAG/TRUECARS.com:
the Factory Invoice is $40,370; and
the Dealer Cost is $39,505 (which includes $865 Dealer holdback, $432 Regional ad fee, and $780 Destination charge),
FROM EDMUNDS.com:
the Invoice is $39,937 (which I figure includes the $432 Regional ad fee).
Interestingly, I saw another post in the Forum at #26959 from someone in VA (Virginia), also buying car from Weymouth in MA, for a sale price of $38,182 (MSRP was $44,030).
How is it possible, since the 2011 Ody just came out, for Weymouth Honda to sell the car AT A WHOPPING ABOUT $1,000 BELOW THE Edmunds.com's Invoice, or below the Truecars.com's Dealer Cost, WITHOUT OTHER KNOWN CURRENTLY AVAILABLE DEALER OF CUSTOMER INCENTIVES???
I did some math calculation: the price you are getting (without the car shipping fee, and the TTL, since tax varies from state to state), is about 12 to 13% off the MSRP (whereas the usually discount is about 6% from my reading/research), which is fantastic, and quite hard to believe.
Am I missing something here? If the price is indeed correct, I think all those dealerships selling at/or neat at the markup MSRP price is really making a fortune off the customers.
I don't know how but USAA quote for ZIP 01773, 01760 in MA for Touring =$38,090 (invoice) :confuse:
All that said, right now dealerships are charging close to MSRP because they are getting it. People are paying it. I suspect that won't last too much longer, as the pent up demand from people who have to have the latest and greatest Odyssey gradually gets fulfilled and the rest of us make the majority of consumers.
I took my lumps and painfully bought locally in SoCal as my other posts detail. The SoCal market is fairly vicious about keeping prices high, but I got a decent NOT great deal.
I don't know how they do it in Weymouth, but if you need an Odyssey I would seriously consider them if you don't need the car for a few months. I would have bought from them in Oct if my van arrived in December.
Let me know if you have any SoCal rec's for decent deals on the 2010's. My wife wants RES and NAV, and I am not affording the 2011 Touring at this time (although I would really like to!).
I am sure you'll be happy with your 2011 - and that gas mileage will be nice!
Thanks!
When you buy a new mattress set, roof rails make the delivery real easy.
Yes! My sentiments exactly regarding the remaining 2010 stock. The 2010 EX-L RES and NAV are hard to find in SoCal! The touring really is your best bet since there are more on the lots.
Use ZAG.com (if you can) to guarantee a low price and maybe you can find the EX-L or touring you're looking for. ZAG pricing on a touring was 35K. Also, increase your range to San Diego and up to San Luis Obispo for a price quote over email and see if others in the LA area can match it.
Specific places with more 2010 inventory:
Riverside Honda
Metro honda (in riverside)
Hardin Honda of anaheim
power honda in costa mesa
Freeway honda in Santa Ana (a few on the lot, but the internet sales manager was great to work with....patient)
Did not check as many places in LA for the 2010 inventory.
I too in the Seattle area. Was looking at 2011 Odyssey and yes, they acted as it is in hot demand and way overprice.
I am still looking and even though Odyssey does has better quality inside, we are now decided to get Sienna instead (been toyota owner and had a 04 LE AWD Sienna before). Just can't stand the overpriced Odyssey and the old school 5 speed tranny. Anyway if you are looking for Sienna, we may able to team up and get a better deal together. (have been getting some good quote in the south end)
Can you please replay back to my email Id:emichael_9001@yahoo.co.in
Thanks,
Rajesh
You can buy the same equiped Sienna LE for 26k now every where.
Total OTD which includes roof rack and side molding is about $45000.
Wanted to see if anyone has any luck in the NYC area for a 2011 EXL w/RES for under 34000 with destination of $780 and doc of $298 included?
If so, please let me know where and which agent.
Greatly appreciate the help.
I don't know how to PM you from this forum.
Anyway, are you looking for Odyssey or Sienna? We have been going back and forth but as for now Sienna XLE AWD is what we are thinking. If Odyssey, probably EX/EXL/EXL with DVD
They also disclosed that the vehicle had minor damages when it came into the port before arriving at the dealership. The damage was promptly repaired, and the van was shipped out to the dealer. Again, this was minor damage, and cosmetic as opposed to structural.
Any thoughts would be very helpful.
Thanks
2011 ody EX-L RES - OTD $38800
Is this fair price?
* Dude, if outside bay area , pl excuse. the OTD
Can you please share the information regarding where did you get this quote? It looks like you got a good quote just around $200 above invoice for the touring elite. I am also in North Cal and looking for a Touring Elite.
We prefer a van with leather seat. Right now leaning towards Ody EXL, can also consider Sienna XLE. But the price here in WA is ridiculous.
Have you thought about remotely buying from weymouth honda? They have very good price, but we need to handle the shipping by ourselves, and I couldn't make a decision on that...
Purchase price - 32,676
Trade - 17,000
Title ect.. 375
Tax -941
Total OTD 16,992 (33,992 without the trade)
Based on what I am seeing here this is a great price, although I assume they will make their profit on the trade.
I PM you, please check.
You are right, I have not seen any deal on Honda but Sienna pretty reasonable (below invoice)
XLE is ~$30000-$31000 without DVD or Nav.
I think they may have had a buyer already as they originally wanted to give 15k and a few hours later came back at 17k. It had close to 59k on it.