I gassed up at Cowboys for $1.44 yesterday. It was $1.46 at a competing station across the street. Chevron up the street was $1.48. I always truncate the "9/10's" when quoting..
In the interest of seeing if my impression that local gas prices spike around home football games or holidays is really true, I decided to keep track of daily prices for 87 octane at one station that I generally use for fillups to see how the price tracks.
When the news was full of stories about how they expected gas prices to rise (right around the Phoenix situation as I recall) our prices shot up from the $1.49 range to $1.69. That was on Aug 25. The price stayed at $1.69 through our first home football game on 8/30, Labor Day, and the second home football Saturday which was yesterday. This morning, it dropped to $1.65. Now we don't have a home game or big event here for two weeks, so it will be interesting (to me, anyway) to see what happens to the price day by day.
Many of the "name" stations around here in MD (suburban DC) are around $1.85 for regular and $2.00 for premium. But there are a couple cheap stations nearby, one a Freestate, that have really dropped since Labor Day. Today they were:
87...$1.599 89...$1.659 93...$1.699
My car takes premium, so I remember that 93 octane there was $1.839 right before Labor Day.
Not sure why we got this drop, but 87 octane fell to $1.59. Away football game this week, so no pressure up from that end. Home game next week... we'll have to see what happens!
Might be more due to the amount of state taxes and the gasoline formulation than the amount of useage. I pay $1.48/gallon in south Louisiana. Of course, our state tax on gasoline isn't what Cali's is I'm quite sure. Strip away the state and federal taxes and gasoline is not expensive at all. The refiners profit margins are razor thin.
about the falling gas prices as there was about the rising prices?
Many folks come here and gripe and moan about the prices going up, but now they are going down, you don't see very many people commenting on that move in the market.
I'm more interested in tracking the movement. Certainly the rise in prices get more of our attention, but I'd like a better idea of WHY the gas prices are moving. The news story yesterday was that gas prices have "stabalized" after that last 21 cent average increase, and that analysts expect prices to drop over the next few months. When the pipeline to Arizona broke and the analysts said that would put upward pressure on prices, it jumped 20 cents here the next day. (Not an indictment, just an observation )So I should expect some movement in the price down this morning right?
Still at $1.59 here, which is about 10 cents above the level is was at before the "Phoenix move"... This morning, a local oil company apparently had a valve on a truck open up and spill fuel oil for 3 miles which resulted in the closing of a 4 lane road in both directions for 3 miles... only oil-related news of the day... not sure if it will cause a change at the pumps...LOL
in the "raise the price bucket" they're just chomping at the bit to move on. Sometimes it just takes one more event to cause a price rise other times that's all it takes. Bunch of crooks...I...I mean I sure am glad we have such "relatively low" gas prices here in the U.S.!
I'm from Madison WI, and one of the most aggravating things about the gas prices here (besides the high taxes) is that they are always higher on the west side of town than the east side of town. I just paid $1.79 for 93 oct. premium for the WRX at the Marathon station on E. Washington (Madison, east side), and the Marathon here on my side of town is $1.89 (Madison, west side). Regular unleaded is usually 2 to 5 cents less on the east side. There are several stations in the same area along E. Wash Ave and the prices are always less than the same brands on the west side. Can't find anyone who can tell me why. Guess we're just special!
Two cents down on Friday to $1.57. On the "event" front, home football game today so there will be a large influx of vehicles looking to fill up on their way out of town.
It must be Bush's fault that gas prices are lower, right? It was his fault when gas prices went up, so now that they are back down, I'm sure he did it again, right. BTW, regular is down to $1.23 here now.
It kinda irks me to read people in GA (or the south in general) whine about $1.40/gallon for gas, since I haven't seen anything lower than $1.75 or so here in Chicago in probably a year.
Prices are not lower in the South. There are reasons why Georgia has the lowest--or among the lowest--gas prices in the nation. I can't remember what they are, but I've seen them before. Gas is higher in TN, AL, and FL. It's not a Southern thing. BTW, no name regular this AM was $1.22 and name brand regular is holding steady at $1.29.
But is it as high in the south in general as say the northwest? There's a big refinery an hour away from me and everything. I wonder what gas is in Texas where the big oil crooks call home.
Didn't mean to totally generalize, but I know when I go south of Chicago (anywhere south of Chicago, honestly), gas is considerably cheaper than here. Illinois has high tax on gas, and Cook County and Chicago each have their own taxes, so that explains most of the expense.
As far as I can surmize, the only places gas is costlier in Chicago (in the contiguous U.S.) are parts of California and the Pacific northwest.
I checked AAA's web site and found some gas prices. The most recent national average they show for regular unleaded is $1.62/gal. Georgia's average was $1.42, Texas averages $1.48, New York averages $1.84, Illinois averages $1.63, Florida averages $1.60 and California averages $2.01. California has the highest gas prices of the 48 contiguous states (Hawaii is higher). Georgia and Oklahoma tie for the lowest with several states within a penny or two of them.
Someone mentioned Chicago being expensive. The average price of regular unleaded is $1.74 in Chicago wile the rest of the state is closer to $1.50/gal. Dallas averages $1.50, or 2 cents higher than the state as a whole. Houston sits on $1.48 like the state average. Atlanta is lower than the rest of the state at $1.38/gal. In California, the folks of San Francisco get to pay a whopping $2.10, on average, for a gallon of regular unleaded! I've always said California is a heck of a nice place to visit; but, for the life of me I can't figure out why anyone chooses to live there! And, yes, I'm talking about my family as well. I have family in LA and my wife has family in LA and SF also.
I know what you mean. Had to stop at an Alabama station this morning and pay $1.39/gl. I almost had a heart attack in having to pay that kind of outragous price! (only bought $4 worth...Aahahaha).
I think seeing how they knew I was from Georgia, they charged me $ .75 cent for a bottle of RootBeer. It was a real glass pop bottle (not plastic). Everyone in E.Alabama knows that Georgians are rich.
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I live in Duluth. Norcross is one town south of me--but still in Gwinnett County. The Shell station at the corner of Pleasant Hill Rd and Peachtree Industrial Blvd was $1.22 for regular this morning. Sweet!
I believe that GA's prices are lowest due to the fact that their state tax on gas is the lowest.
Some of you folks bitching about the price of gas should perhaps check and see how much your state's are slapping on to each gallon of gas in the way of tax. Nine times out of ten that's the reason for the regional price differentials.
GA does have very low gas taxes, but I don't think they are the lowest. Alabama's are several cents higher and it shows as soon as you cross the border.
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Exactly. Alabama's state tax on gas is higher than GA's and of course it shows as soon as you cross the border.
I'm sure there is a site that lists all 50 states and the amount per gallon of tax they charge. Then juxtapose those tax numbers with average price per gallon for the states. I have no doubt that the states that slap on higher taxes have higher average gas prices. The situation like the ruptured gas pipeline which affected the Phenoix area would be an exception to that general rule. However, supply and demand still outweigh other factors.
No reaction at the pumps to the OPEC news here yet. Staying at $1.53
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"However, supply and demand still outweigh other factors"
That is generally true, sure, but that makes it even more strange that the city of Atlanta has lower gas prices than the rest of the state. There must be a huge supply here. Either that or competition is driving the prices down. Atlanta has (I think) the 3rd longest average commute time in the US and the residents here drive WAY more miles than the rest of the state drivers do. I used to live in Columbus, GA (the 2nd largest city on the state) and you are never more than a couple of miles away from anything you needed to do or anywhere you needed to be. Here, it takes at least 20 minutes to get anywhere due to all the traffic. Oh well, I won't complain. I saw one station this morning at $1.19 and another at $1.20, so I'm happy!
has among the lowest fuel prices. They also have some of the lowest electricity rates.
This weekend, prices were falling rapidly around here in W. Ga. (Not yet down to the levels uga91 reports)
What was interesting was that the Chevrons, Exxons, Shells, and Marathons were selling gas for less than the "No-Names" .
I no understand this...unless the big boys are applying the heat to the little guys. The little guys have been "eating the big guys lunch" over the years. Could this be the beginning of parity between the big guys and the little guys?
Is the spot market becomming controlled?
Has the Convinence Store part of the industry taken over?????
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Guess who was doing the most business....
When the news was full of stories about how they expected gas prices to rise (right around the Phoenix situation as I recall) our prices shot up from the $1.49 range to $1.69. That was on Aug 25. The price stayed at $1.69 through our first home football game on 8/30, Labor Day, and the second home football Saturday which was yesterday. This morning, it dropped to $1.65. Now we don't have a home game or big event here for two weeks, so it will be interesting (to me, anyway) to see what happens to the price day by day.
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Historically the past few weeks fillup's, all 87 octane...
9/05/03 $1.499
9/03/03 $1.549
9/01/03 $1.599
8/29/03 $1.599
8/28/03 $1.599
8/26/03 $1.619
8/22/03 $1.629
8/20/03 $1.639
8/15/03 $1.489
8/12/03 $1.499
8/10/03 $1.539
8/07/03 $1.549
8/04/03 $1.419
7/29/03 $1.559
7/25/03 $1.549
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87....$2.08
89....$2.18
91....$2.28
These prices represent a whopping $.02 reduction since Labor Day!
87...$1.599
89...$1.659
93...$1.699
My car takes premium, so I remember that 93 octane there was $1.839 right before Labor Day.
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Most common premium price I'm seeing posted is about $2.29-2.39, with a couple of spikes at $2.49-2.59.
I'm sure $3 is not far off in California metro areas, since Americans won't boycott or use less.
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Many folks come here and gripe and moan about the prices going up, but now they are going down, you don't see very many people commenting on that move in the market.
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Interestingly full-serve only about $.04/gal more than self-serve. The differential used to be $.07-$.10/gal.
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This morning, a local oil company apparently had a valve on a truck open up and spill fuel oil for 3 miles which resulted in the closing of a 4 lane road in both directions for 3 miles... only oil-related news of the day... not sure if it will cause a change at the pumps...LOL
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There are a number of stations around town that are still between $1.62.9 and $1.67.9 for regular.
Overall observation - prices never go down as quickly as they go up!
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That's still 30% higher than it should be...
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Where is the outrage, it's actually lower than prior to the blackout and AZ pipeline problems...
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Somebody must have one out there somewhere right?
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As far as I can surmize, the only places gas is costlier in Chicago (in the contiguous U.S.) are parts of California and the Pacific northwest.
Someone mentioned Chicago being expensive. The average price of regular unleaded is $1.74 in Chicago wile the rest of the state is closer to $1.50/gal. Dallas averages $1.50, or 2 cents higher than the state as a whole. Houston sits on $1.48 like the state average. Atlanta is lower than the rest of the state at $1.38/gal. In California, the folks of San Francisco get to pay a whopping $2.10, on average, for a gallon of regular unleaded! I've always said California is a heck of a nice place to visit; but, for the life of me I can't figure out why anyone chooses to live there! And, yes, I'm talking about my family as well. I have family in LA and my wife has family in LA and SF also.
Hope these figures help a little.
I think seeing how they knew I was from Georgia, they charged me $ .75 cent for a bottle of RootBeer. It was a real glass pop bottle (not plastic). Everyone in E.Alabama knows that Georgians are rich.
Come see us when you can....cousin...go up there to Norcross and check out where "uga91" lives...he'll get you the best deal of all....!
I believe that GA's prices are lowest due to the fact that their state tax on gas is the lowest.
Some of you folks bitching about the price of gas should perhaps check and see how much your state's are slapping on to each gallon of gas in the way of tax. Nine times out of ten that's the reason for the regional price differentials.
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87 - $1.659
89 - $1.759
93 - $1.839
94 - $1.859
diesel - $1.379
diesel will start its upswing next week as NJ switches to winter-mix, and home heating oil production steps up, but for now, I love my diesel Dodge Ram
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I'm sure there is a site that lists all 50 states and the amount per gallon of tax they charge. Then juxtapose those tax numbers with average price per gallon for the states. I have no doubt that the states that slap on higher taxes have higher average gas prices. The situation like the ruptured gas pipeline which affected the Phenoix area would be an exception to that general rule. However, supply and demand still outweigh other factors.
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That is generally true, sure, but that makes it even more strange that the city of Atlanta has lower gas prices than the rest of the state. There must be a huge supply here. Either that or competition is driving the prices down. Atlanta has (I think) the 3rd longest average commute time in the US and the residents here drive WAY more miles than the rest of the state drivers do. I used to live in Columbus, GA (the 2nd largest city on the state) and you are never more than a couple of miles away from anything you needed to do or anywhere you needed to be. Here, it takes at least 20 minutes to get anywhere due to all the traffic. Oh well, I won't complain. I saw one station this morning at $1.19 and another at $1.20, so I'm happy!
This weekend, prices were falling rapidly around here in W. Ga. (Not yet down to the levels uga91 reports)
What was interesting was that the Chevrons, Exxons, Shells, and Marathons were selling gas for less than the "No-Names" .
I no understand this...unless the big boys are applying the heat to the little guys. The little guys have been "eating the big guys lunch" over the years. Could this be the beginning of parity between the big guys and the little guys?
Is the spot market becomming controlled?
Has the Convinence Store part of the industry taken over?????
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