what is their hourly rate? The dealer where I take my car rate is $82.00 an hour. They charge $24.95 for an oil change. I have not paid for one yet as I still have two free oil change coupons left. I am going to try to get some more. The dealer is in PA and I moved to NC but get up to that area often. You should have no probem with the warranty as long as you keep the receipts to show it has been done. I think the f.m. liked your c.d.s or he would have either locked them in your trunk or put them in a safe place at the dealership not his home. I think he should reimburse you something for them.
That's terrible. :mad: There is no excuse for moving anything in your car if it doesn't interfere with the service if it. I know it's somewhat of a pain but you may want to take them to small claims court since you haven't got your CDs back after all this time. Do you have a written statement saying he lost the CDs ? Do you have notes showing the people you talked to ?
My head's spinning around a bit and I'm hoping some folks out there can maybe straighten me out.
Doing research on a 5 speed GLS, I'm not too picky about color. I got what I thought was an decent price from a dealer in the ATL area. $13,533 , including TTD. Then I went on carsdirect.com and found the same car for $12, 917 (invoice minus $1000 rebate). That price appears to include the Dest charge, but, (I'm assuming) not the tax and title. GA sales tax is 4%, right? So that should be around $500, so it looks like I'm getting the car for pretty close to invoice (unless I'm missing something)
That looks like a pretty good deal, and I was satisfied, except according to Edmunds and the NADA site the dealer invoice is $12,964 and as far as I can see that's without the rebate.
So does anyone know what the true invoice price would be. If the NADA site is correct, then maybe I've got a little more wiggle room on the price from the dealer. The TMV is $13,737, but there's no mention of the rebate on the TMV page.
Sounds like a pretty good deal to me. It's comparable to what I paid. ($13,900 + TTL for a GLS AT hatchback; the AT is ~$1000). I've heard of people getting better deals, but that's a pretty good price.
I'm currently working on this too. The way I figure it, it's $12,974 invoice + $580 destination fee to make $13554. If the dealer is taking off the $1000 to begin with (which it seems like all of them do) then I think we should be able to work up from $12554. Honestly, at this point in the game, with the new '07s on the horizon and the fact that they're a new model, I would think that the $12,5xx - $12,6xx range would not be unreasonable. If you look a few posts back, some responders were reporting quotes like that from dealers. I swear there's got to be some sort of factory to dealer incentive (or maybe the dealer's been able to get the car under invoice) going on. Of course, I've not tested those number out or anything I might find myself sadly mistaken. I've had a couple of dealers in Atlanta throw out the $12,900 figure while I've been talking to them on the phone. Nobody has offered that in writing though.
If you don't mind my asking, who was the dealer who offered you the $13,533?
GA sales tax is 4%, right?
It's 7% for me; maybe because I'm in Floyd County :confuse:
Where did you get the free coupons for the oil change? Can the coupons only be used at a dealership or could I take them to Jiffy Lube? Thank you for telling me about a reimbursement, but I don't think thats going to happen. I am keeping my receipts for any work done to my car, thanks again.
No I don't have a written statement, the finance manager told me this over the phone. I would never go to small claims court for something like this. I had called lojack at the time, but they just referred it back to the dealership. I already told the finance manager that I would never recommend this place to purchase a car, so let them lose the business they would have had. There's a saying you get what you give and generally people like this will get theirs in the end. Do you know anything about leasing? Is this better than owning a car? Thanks again for answering my query.
Goldygirl, Your good. I've would've been steaming mad at them especially if there were alot of CDs. I have a case that holds about 80 CDs. That's about $900 worth. I would be pissed. :mad: At least your trying to get the word out on them as much as possible. I never leased a car but from what I know it depends on how much you drive. Some lease contracts limit you to 12,000 to 15,000 miles a year. If you drive over that amount you will be an charged an extra 15 to 30 cents per mile, if not more. I'm going by what I read a while ago so the rates may have changed. Plus, you have to give the car back at the end of the contract or pay the balance of the car's worth after lease payments to keep the car. It wouldn't work for me because I drive an avg of 20,000 per yr. Plus, I like to add things to a car like new radios, speakers, etc. I don't think you can add anything to a lease car. :confuse: If you drive less then 12,000 and get bored with cars quickly a lease may be for you.
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If Elantras come from S Korea. Those waiting around for a better price might be disappionted as models to choose from shrinks.
SEOUL, South Korea -- Hyundai Motor Co., South Korea's largest automaker, said Thursday that a partial strike by its labor union has forced it to suspend vehicle exports.
"Exports have stopped," said Oles Gadacz, a Hyundai spokesman. He added that the company has about three month's worth of vehicle inventory already shipped overseas, so there has been no supply disruption to dealers.
"There's no cause for concern at this point," he said. "We do build up inventories going into a strike."
Walkouts are virtually an annual event at Hyundai, where the company's labor union has gone on strike every year but one since 1987.
Summer is traditionally a period of labor unrest in South Korea, when unions make demands for pay and benefit increases. Strikes are often a part of the bargaining process.
The dealer is Jim Ellis Hyundai. They're really the only dealer I've spoken to at this point. I'm looking for a 5 speed, which seeme to be a little harder to come by.
Was that 12,5xx-12,6xx numer Out the door or invoice plus Dest fee? Which dealer was that?
You're right about the 7% sales tax, although I haven't checked the dealer near me in Smyrna, where I believe the sales tax is lower.
The dealer is Jim Ellis Hyundai. They're really the only dealer I've spoken to at this point. I'm looking for a 5 speed, which seeme to be a little harder to come by.
Ah. I got an email quote from them and was kind of impressed that the guy gave me a complete write up with tax, tags, fees, etc. It wasn't a great price, but it seemed like a more honest approach (and that maybe he'd come down a little if I worked with him). Their starting price for me was around $13,500. I'd like it a good bit lower than that.
Was that 12,5xx-12,6xx numer Out the door or invoice plus Dest fee? Which dealer was that?
That was the starting price (I'm assuming invoice + dest. fee). Those were people in other areas, though. One was in VA and another in the Chicago area. Maybe that's not possible around here. I made another offer to my local dealer today (we're in Rome) with those figures in mind and he didn't accept. I have a junky tradein that might be kind of skewing things though. We're planning a trip to Atlanta next weekend and we'll just try hitting each dealership we've contacting and seeing what they do with our offer. We're basically looking for around $13,000ish OTD; breakdown for that in our mind is: $12,600 (car - incentive) $1000 (taxes) $40 (title/lemon law) $400 (dealer fee) - $1000 (tradein on our Nissan Sentra) for a total of $13040
Like I said, though. That figure might just be a pipe dream. No way to test it out besides going to various dealers and let them reject you though
If you don't mind, let me know what your experiences are and I'll try to do the same.
I spoke with someone from carsdirect.com tonight and she was very skeptical that a dealer could offer me the $13,533 OTD deal. She insists that the dealer is leaving something out.
I sure hope she's wrong. I have no trade-in, so $13,533 is starting to look pretty good to me. The thing about carsdirect is the price that they cal the "invoice price" is what Edmunds and NADA would call the invoice + Dest fee. It gets kind of confusing. I'm assuming that by starting price you also mean invoice +dest. What's the $400 "dealer fee" you included in your breakdown, is that the "doc fee"?
Of course I'm mad about the cd's and case, but I am trying to replace them little by little. Do you know of a site where I can download free music? I'm with you about the leases, I will eventually upgrade the speakers and the stock radio I have. Do you know how I can get my cell phone connected to my radio, also I need to know how to answer and make calls hands free. I do not want anything showing in the car for anyone to break my windows and take out anything I put in there.
I spoke with someone from carsdirect.com tonight and she was very skeptical that a dealer could offer me the $13,533 OTD deal. She insists that the dealer is leaving something out.
Hmmm...I don't know. He certainly could be (they ALL say that so and so couldn't match this price when they're trying to get you to buy). Without a tradin, that sounds like a very good price to me. If they'd offer me the same deal and give me $533 on my Nissan, I'd be there! Did the dealer tell you that was the OTD price? Do you have it in writing, or was that just something he said over the phone?
The thing about carsdirect is the price that they cal the "invoice price" is what Edmunds and NADA would call the invoice + Dest fee. It gets kind of confusing. I'm assuming that by starting price you also mean invoice +dest.
Yeah, it's really confusing. What I think of as starting price is car price (could be invoice or not) + destination fee - the $1000 incentive from Hyundai.
What's the $400 "dealer fee" you included in your breakdown, is that the "doc fee"?
They all seem to have that (and some go higher than $400) so I just factor it in. I really like negotiating in terms of a final OTD price so I can understand it all. I don't like working on the starting price for 3 hours just to have them tack some sort of fee on it that I wasn't expecting. Then we have to spend another 2 hours trying to negotiate that down. With a final price like that, they usually either accept it fairly quickly or they let you walk fairly quickly. Problem with that method is, if you're trying to get the very best price possible, you're going to walk alot which is depressing.
Doing end of the year deals like this is kind of hard. My calculations assume that there is some sort of factory to dealer kickback, or that they've bought that car from the factory under invoice because Hyundai's trying to unload them, that's going to give the dealership it's profit and the salesman his commission. That might not be the case.
The $400 or so "dealer fee" is actually an advertising fee paid by dealers to their local dealer association for things like local TV ads and such. My dealer tried to tack one one for about $260 I think, and I flat out refused to pay it, telling him that in every other in industry, no one charges you for advertising and that it's a part of doing business. If it doesn't pay for itself, you *shouldn't* be doing it.
They didn't fight me on that, but I bet they slipped it into the deal somewhere anyway, maybe by not coming down as much on the price as they otherwise might have.
Goldy, Personlly I haven't seen any devices that can work with a radio but I saw something on Amazon that that may work. I don't know how good it is. I have a Bluetooth wireless technology set and it works pretty good. If you have a Bluetooth ready phone just get a Bluetooth headset and your good to go. If you don't have a BT ready phone you can get an adopter + headset and try it that way but the charge on it doesn't seem to last that long. Still it works pretty well. I have tint windows so unless people really look hard nobody can see inside the car + they protect the leather seats to some extent from the sun's rays. But be careful front window tints are illegal in some states (including mine) so if you do get tints you may want to put everything on the back seat. It's not illegal to have the back windows tinted-in NJ at least. One thing I like about my Elanta are the big side pockets on the doors. I can put all my little stuff in them so don't have to put them on the seat.
Well I spoke to the salesman from Jim ellis today, and he assures me that the $13,533 is OTD. So now I'm wondering if I should call the dealer closer to me (Ed Voyles) and see if he'll match it (or beat it). When a salesman has been straight with me, and gives me a decent deal, I always feel a bit guilty about using his price to get a better deal elswhere. I doubt that Ed Voyles would be able to beat the price, but this is where I'll be taking the car to be serviced (it's right down the street from me), so if I buy it there am I more likely to be treated better by the Service dept?
Wow! They quoted me a pretty high price over the Internet. Was this the first quote they gave you? Are you working with the Internet people or regular salemen? I definately need to get back in touch with the guy from there and see if they can do something similar. Was it the standard Elantra GLS that you were getting? I remember you said something about 5 speed; is that a manual transmission rather than an auto (forgive my pathetic ignorance )?
Good luck closing the deal! I guess it wouldn't hurt to get the quote from the other place. I'm like you, though. I kind of like dealing with salemen who seem square with me. I was looking at their website earlier today and it seems like customer service and satisfaction is a big thing to them. I wouldn't think service would be affected by where you bought it.
I'm going to offer my local dealer 14200.00 for a Silver Elantra GT with Automatic Transmission. I'm in Western Massachusetts, does this seem like a fair price??? This price includes 1500 back to the dealer from rebates.
I get the coupons from the dealership and they can be used only there. I have seen coupons in the paper to get $4.00 off at Jiffy Lube. I like to take my car to the dealer because if there is a recall or something needs to be done under warranty they let me know. My daughter took her hyundai to a different place for a oil change and was sold some kind of repair that if she took it to the dealer would had it covered under warranty. What is the hourly rate at your dealer? Actually they should have left your c.d.s where they were. I always leave mine in the car, no problem. I have even left money.
Thanks for the reply on the cell phone, I don't think I have bluetooth technology, I have Nokia cell phone and I use cingular services prepaid. I try to keep the yearly costs down with the cell phone, it's too expensive to use like you would use a landline phone. I only use my cell phone for emergencies for my car. You're right about the side pockets on the doors, I keep my cd's and an umbrella handy there. Also on the back of the front seats there are other pockets to keep maps, etc. What year Elantra do you have? I had wanted leather seats but it wasn't available at the time of purchase. Where are you in Jersey?, my family lives in East Brunswick, I am in Brooklyn. Goldygirl
I own a 01 GT. I think the only Elantra model at the time to have leather was the GT. The Elantra "Limited" may have leather as an option but not sure about that. The seats still look OK but I have to admit I'm lazy with he upkeep. I should condition them every month but sometimes I wait up to 3 or more. That's bad. I live in the North Jersey area about 10 mins from NYC.
where in north Jersey? I grew up in Demarest but now live in NC. We have a 05 Gt. I try to clean and condition the leather at least once a month and cover the seats with a towel when it is out in the direct sun or it is OUCH when you try to sit on them.
I live in Hackensack. It's an ok area but it's getting too expensive to live here. :mad: I drove to NC a couple of times. It's nice but everything is spead so far apart ! I guess I'm too use to the crowded NJ and NYC streets. :P I wish the price of houseing here was the same as in NC. That would be wish come true. I use a windshild cover and crack the windows to keep some of the heat out. It's a pain to unfold but it does help.
I was born at the Hackensack Hospital. The property taxes are way up there in bergen county. I have a windshield cover but find the towels are easier to use and I can sit on them after a day at the beach. We live about 20 minutes from the ocean (topsail island). As much as the beach here is great I still love the jersey shore more. Our Gt is not kept in the garage. We have a 2-car one but one side has 3 motorcycles and the other is for the civic which does not get driven very often. We prefer the elantra.
Have you been to Jersey lately ? Hackensack Hospital reminds me of a hotel because of all the changes. I'm thinking about the beach this weekend but I hate the traffic. Sandy Hook, Belmar maybe. :shades: My friend has a 05 Civic. I like the handling but the ride is too stiff and unforgiving for an everyday car for me, plus, I felt a little cramped in it. But still a decent car. It has less body roll then my GT but the GT rides better. I'm actually thinking about installing Tiburon GT anti-roll bars to lessen the body roll but I lived with it for 5 yrs now without much complaint. Why change now ? :shades:
If you go to HyundaiUSA.com and do a "Build Your Own" for an Elantra Limited, you'll see these four possible body colors:
And this is the only interior color:
So, I guess just tan. You can get the gray leather in the GT hatch. Hyundai keeps their prices low by using strategies such as not providing too many option combinations. I think each Elantra comes with a certain color of interior based on the exterior color for the GLSs. The GTs are all gray leather; the Limiteds are all tan leather.
Hello everyone. i need to know the price tag OTD for a 06 hyundai elantra GLS auto with ABS and moonroof in NYC. What price range should i be looking at 13500? higher or lower. Thank you.
You are providing inacurate information regarding the GLS Limited! Gray interior IS available with silver exterior. I was at my dealer yesterday and they had 3 of these models on the lot!
I'd be very curious about NYC prices too. I've done a little shopping in CT (not too far from NYC) and I'd be very surprised if you came close to 13500 OTD. I was looking for a 5-speed (about $900 less) without the ABS package (which adds at least $1000) and was getting an OTD price of 14500. If you can find what you're looking for for 13500, then maybe I'll start shopping around NYC.
You are providing inacurate information regarding the GLS Limited! Gray interior IS available with silver exterior. I was at my dealer yesterday and they had 3 of these models on the lot!
Well then, Hyundai USA is providing inaccurate information on their website, because that is where that information came from. However, there is an inconsistency in your information: You refer to the GLS Limited. An Elantra can be a GLS *or* a Limited, but not both. All GLSs have cloth interiors and all Limiteds have leather. Did the cars you were looking at have leather or cloth?
This is my first post but I have been reading through this thread and a few others.
I submitted requests for quotes, over the Net, to four different dealers in my area (Metro Detroit).
Lafontaine Hyundai (Dearborn, MI) was the quickest to reply so I made a trip there and worked with their Internet Sales person. Once they ran my credit check I was passed over to the Sales Manager.
The MSRP I was given for a '06 Elantra GLS 4 dr AT w/ 02 premium package (sunroof, ABS, etc) was $16715. That seemed a bit high to me. Hyundai's website has the MSRP as: $15,495
The out the door price was $15,278 (after $1,000 rebate) and I would have gotten a 6.5% APR.
We had initially discussed the GLS Base model and the out the door given to me was $14,108.
In both cases the prices were approx $1,500 - $2,000 more than Edmunds TMV listed. I even had the Edmonds TMV sheet printed out and brought it with me.
I spent about 30 minutes with the Sales Manager and asked him a couple of times if he could do any better on the starting price. He ended up dropping it by $200, which got me to the OTD price I first listed ($15,278)
Edmonds TMV for '06 Elantra GLS (w/ package 02) -$1,000 rebate: $14,550 OTD Lafontaine Hyundai OTD price for same car: $15,278 Difference: $728
I ended up thanking him for his time and walking, with the possibility of contacting him tomorrow to see if Hyundai has come out with any new incentives on the Elantra.
My main question is why would the MSRP have been so high? Are they just marking that up to begin with?
Also it seems, from reading this thread, that many people are getting the same car or very similar for several thousand less. Is it the area that I am in that is the reason for the higher price or am I reading the prices listed here incorrectly.
Some other trivial info: Doc fee was $169 or $139. He mentioned that his Holdback was $449. MI sales tax is 6%.
Was I being given a good deal or was I right in walking for now?
I punched in the information for a 4-door GLS loaded and got an MSRP of $16,495 (including $580 freight charge) for 48124 zip code. Th $220 difference could be the "promotional fee" that dealers pay their local area dealers association for TV ads and stuff.
Add 6.5% tax to that to get to $17,801, plus your $139 doc fee = $17940 total out-the-door.
Take a $1000 rebate off that and you get about $17k. So they're coming down about $1700; doesn't sound like too bad of a deal to me.
Last year, I paid about $15k out-the-door for my Elantra GLS hatch without the ABS/moonroof (and last year, the premium sound system with door tweeters was not standard). $15,278 sounds like a decent deal to me. You may do better, but not that much better. When I punch all that into Edmunds for TMV I get $15,462, which does NOT include TT&L (which is another $1000+)
That price does NOT include a $1000 rebate (Hyundai doesn't get that information out right away at the beginning of the month), so even if you apply a $1000 rebate to the TMV, then add in TT&L, you're still getting a better deal.
A local dealer here in Atlanta found a 5 speed GLS hatchback for me (it's a hard car to find). The price is very good. I know that he had to get this car from another dealer . I was wondering if anyone knows how far (distance-wise) a dealer would search for a vehicle. The car he found for me is Champagne (beige), but I would be much happier with another color. How do these trades work? do dealers only trade with certain dealers? I wonder if the dealer would mind if I looked outside the ATL area (like 100 miles) and if I found another color would he make a trade?
FWIW, and for reference purposes, I paid $13,700 OTD (including Tax, Title, and License in Illinois)last December for my 2006 Elantra GLS 4-door sedan with automatic (no ABS or other packages). I would think you should be able to do better now, given the 2007's will be arriving relatively soon.
If you don't mind driving to the Chicago area, drop the internet sales manager an e-mail at Pugi Hyundai-Mazda-VW in Downers Grove, IL. Their prices are extremely good, and they're also good people.
Having worked for a new car dealer a few days ago, sometimes a dealer prefers working with one dealer on dealer trades. However, this is not normally the case. They do a search through their system for the car and color of your choice, and if the car is within a reasonable distance they can try to initiate a trade. It all depends if the dealer that has your preferred car and color "wants" to do a trade. This is the tough part and at times requires a significant amount of negotiation by your local dealer's sales manager - the person who typically negotiates a dealer trade.
I guess I'll probably end up with the biege. This dealer has bent over backwards (price-wise) to get my business. I know the beige car is already coming from somewhere else (it's the same vehicle another dealer offered me and it wasn't on that dealer's lot either). If it's the hassle you say it is (and I have no reason to doubt that) I really don't think that anyone's going to break their neck negotiating with a dealer 100 miles away just so I can get a different color. I know the car is tough to find in ANY color, and color's not THAT big a issue with me, so maybe I should just be happy that I got a great deal on the model I want from a dealer who's right down the street from my house.
Just wanted to update you on my search. I changed midstream and decided on a GLS hatch instead of the sedan. These are even harder to find, but the guy at Jim Ellis was able to find me one and the price was $13,957 OTD, which is precisely the difference in the invoice price between the sedan and the hatch, so he really did me right. So if you're still looking for the sedan, I'm pretty sure they have one left for $13,533 OTD.
I ended up, however, going elsewhere. I wanted the extended warranty (10/10,000 bumper to bumper-I plan on keeping this car for a long time) and they couldn't give me much of a deal on that ($1450), plus the dealer closer to home matched the car price, gave me the ext warranty for $870, and is going to be able to get me a better deal than my 7.2% HSBC Turbo Check. That clinched it for me.
So, aside from not being over the moon about the color (Champagne), I'm very happy with the end result. $13,957 OTD + the ext warranty. I didn't even bother with the trade-in. I'm driving a 1988 Civic with a broken AC compressor (with a SALVAGE title), how much could they possibly give me?
I have to say that the internet guy at Jim Ellis had the best price right out of the box, with no negotiating. His price became the price to beat, and while Iwas waiting for the other show to drop his price was legit. If you're still looking around I would definitely approach them again.
This forum and the whole Edmunds site was incredibly helpful in navigating the jungle of buying a new car. Thanks.
It came down to champagne or electric red for me; I'm glad I got electric red. If you get one of the hatches that has the gray interior, it is really pretty cool- kind of a dark gray canvas with tweed-ish seating surfaces that looks a lot better than the sedan gray or beige. The beige hatch interior is the same bland-looking one from the sedan. If there's *any* way to get a hatch with a gray interior (electric red, tidal wave blue, sterling silver or ebony black), you get the cool interior:
HI, I am in the market for a new car. I test drove the hyundai elantra today and i am impressed. Just wondering how much (without the taxes or other fees) would could I expect to pay for the 06 Elantra GLS 4-door with the premium package (mainly for the ABS)? Anybody in the Buffalo area here know some good dealers and what did you pay for the 06 elanta? Also, since the ABS is going to be standard in the 07 models, should I wait for them? (they have the $1000 rebate now that may not be offered for the 07 model). I appreciate your inputs. :shades:
That Hyundai dealer isn't budging much on the Elantras, or they're loaded. One of my local dealers is advertising Elantras for a little over $12k.
The problem with the deal on the Sentra is, then you have to live with the Sentra. I'd take the Elantra any day over the Sentra, even if the Elantra cost more.
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Doing research on a 5 speed GLS, I'm not too picky about color. I got what I thought was an decent price from a dealer in the ATL area. $13,533 , including TTD. Then I went on carsdirect.com and found the same car for $12, 917 (invoice minus $1000 rebate). That price appears to include the Dest charge, but, (I'm assuming) not the tax and title. GA sales tax is 4%, right? So that should be around $500, so it looks like I'm getting the car for pretty close to invoice (unless I'm missing something)
That looks like a pretty good deal, and I was satisfied, except according to Edmunds and the NADA site the dealer invoice is $12,964 and as far as I can see that's without the rebate.
So does anyone know what the true invoice price would be. If the NADA site is correct, then maybe I've got a little more wiggle room on the price from the dealer. The TMV is $13,737, but there's no mention of the rebate on the TMV page.
Any opinions?
If you don't mind my asking, who was the dealer who offered you the $13,533?
GA sales tax is 4%, right?
It's 7% for me; maybe because I'm in Floyd County :confuse:
Can the coupons only be used at a dealership or could I take them to Jiffy Lube?
Thank you for telling me about a reimbursement, but I don't think thats going to happen.
I am keeping my receipts for any work done to my car, thanks again.
I would never go to small claims court for something like this.
I had called lojack at the time, but they just referred it back to the dealership.
I already told the finance manager that I would never recommend this place to purchase a car, so let them lose the business they would have had.
There's a saying you get what you give and generally people like this will get theirs in the end.
Do you know anything about leasing?
Is this better than owning a car?
Thanks again for answering my query.
I never leased a car but from what I know it depends on how much you drive. Some lease contracts limit you to 12,000 to 15,000 miles a year. If you drive over that amount you will be an charged an extra 15 to 30 cents per mile, if not more. I'm going by what I read a while ago so the rates may have changed. Plus, you have to give the car back at the end of the contract or pay the balance of the car's worth after lease payments to keep the car. It wouldn't work for me because I drive an avg of 20,000 per yr. Plus, I like to add things to a car like new radios, speakers, etc. I don't think you can add anything to a lease car. :confuse: If you drive less then 12,000 and get bored with cars quickly a lease may be for you.
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SEOUL, South Korea -- Hyundai Motor Co., South Korea's largest automaker, said Thursday that a partial strike by its labor union has forced it to suspend vehicle exports.
"Exports have stopped," said Oles Gadacz, a Hyundai spokesman. He added that the company has about three month's worth of vehicle inventory already shipped overseas, so there has been no supply disruption to dealers.
"There's no cause for concern at this point," he said. "We do build up inventories going into a strike."
Walkouts are virtually an annual event at Hyundai, where the company's labor union has gone on strike every year but one since 1987.
Summer is traditionally a period of labor unrest in South Korea, when unions make demands for pay and benefit increases. Strikes are often a part of the bargaining process.
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Was that 12,5xx-12,6xx numer Out the door or invoice plus Dest fee? Which dealer was that?
You're right about the 7% sales tax, although I haven't checked the dealer near me in Smyrna, where I believe the sales tax is lower.
Ah. I got an email quote from them and was kind of impressed that the guy gave me a complete write up with tax, tags, fees, etc. It wasn't a great price, but it seemed like a more honest approach (and that maybe he'd come down a little if I worked with him). Their starting price for me was around $13,500. I'd like it a good bit lower than that.
Was that 12,5xx-12,6xx numer Out the door or invoice plus Dest fee? Which dealer was that?
That was the starting price (I'm assuming invoice + dest. fee). Those were people in other areas, though. One was in VA and another in the Chicago area. Maybe that's not possible around here. I made another offer to my local dealer today (we're in Rome) with those figures in mind and he didn't accept. I have a junky tradein that might be kind of skewing things though. We're planning a trip to Atlanta next weekend and we'll just try hitting each dealership we've contacting and seeing what they do with our offer. We're basically looking for around $13,000ish OTD; breakdown for that in our mind is:
$12,600 (car - incentive)
$1000 (taxes)
$40 (title/lemon law)
$400 (dealer fee)
- $1000 (tradein on our Nissan Sentra)
for a total of $13040
Like I said, though. That figure might just be a pipe dream. No way to test it out besides going to various dealers and let them reject you though
If you don't mind, let me know what your experiences are and I'll try to do the same.
I sure hope she's wrong. I have no trade-in, so $13,533 is starting to look pretty good to me.
The thing about carsdirect is the price that they cal the "invoice price" is what Edmunds and NADA would call the invoice + Dest fee. It gets kind of confusing. I'm assuming that by starting price you also mean invoice +dest.
What's the $400 "dealer fee" you included in your breakdown, is that the "doc fee"?
Do you know of a site where I can download free music?
I'm with you about the leases, I will eventually upgrade the speakers and the stock radio I have.
Do you know how I can get my cell phone connected to my radio, also I need to know how to answer and make calls hands free.
I do not want anything showing in the car for anyone to break my windows and take out anything I put in there.
Hmmm...I don't know. He certainly could be (they ALL say that so and so couldn't match this price when they're trying to get you to buy). Without a tradin, that sounds like a very good price to me. If they'd offer me the same deal and give me $533 on my Nissan, I'd be there! Did the dealer tell you that was the OTD price? Do you have it in writing, or was that just something he said over the phone?
The thing about carsdirect is the price that they cal the "invoice price" is what Edmunds and NADA would call the invoice + Dest fee. It gets kind of confusing. I'm assuming that by starting price you also mean invoice +dest.
Yeah, it's really confusing. What I think of as starting price is car price (could be invoice or not) + destination fee - the $1000 incentive from Hyundai.
What's the $400 "dealer fee" you included in your breakdown, is that the "doc fee"?
They all seem to have that (and some go higher than $400) so I just factor it in. I really like negotiating in terms of a final OTD price so I can understand it all. I don't like working on the starting price for 3 hours just to have them tack some sort of fee on it that I wasn't expecting. Then we have to spend another 2 hours trying to negotiate that down. With a final price like that, they usually either accept it fairly quickly or they let you walk fairly quickly. Problem with that method is, if you're trying to get the very best price possible, you're going to walk alot which is depressing.
Doing end of the year deals like this is kind of hard. My calculations assume that there is some sort of factory to dealer kickback, or that they've bought that car from the factory under invoice because Hyundai's trying to unload them, that's going to give the dealership it's profit and the salesman his commission. That might not be the case.
They didn't fight me on that, but I bet they slipped it into the deal somewhere anyway, maybe by not coming down as much on the price as they otherwise might have.
I have tint windows so unless people really look hard nobody can see inside the car + they protect the leather seats to some extent from the sun's rays. But be careful front window tints are illegal in some states (including mine) so if you do get tints you may want to put everything on the back seat. It's not illegal to have the back windows tinted-in NJ at least. One thing I like about my Elanta are the big side pockets on the doors. I can put all my little stuff in them so don't have to put them on the seat.
Good luck closing the deal! I guess it wouldn't hurt to get the quote from the other place. I'm like you, though. I kind of like dealing with salemen who seem square with me. I was looking at their website earlier today and it seems like customer service and satisfaction is a big thing to them. I wouldn't think service would be affected by where you bought it.
I try to keep the yearly costs down with the cell phone, it's too expensive to use like you would use a landline phone.
I only use my cell phone for emergencies for my car.
You're right about the side pockets on the doors, I keep my cd's and an umbrella handy there.
Also on the back of the front seats there are other pockets to keep maps, etc.
What year Elantra do you have?
I had wanted leather seats but it wasn't available at the time of purchase.
Where are you in Jersey?, my family lives in East Brunswick,
I am in Brooklyn.
Goldygirl
I live in the North Jersey area about 10 mins from NYC.
For 2006, it's the same, except: There are no more GT sedans, but the "Limited" is offered (in sedan only). All Limiteds have tan leather.
I wish the price of houseing here was the same as in NC. That would be wish come true.
I use a windshild cover and crack the windows to keep some of the heat out. It's a pain to unfold but it does help.
And this is the only interior color:
So, I guess just tan. You can get the gray leather in the GT hatch. Hyundai keeps their prices low by using strategies such as not providing too many option combinations. I think each Elantra comes with a certain color of interior based on the exterior color for the GLSs. The GTs are all gray leather; the Limiteds are all tan leather.
You are providing inacurate information regarding the
GLS Limited! Gray interior IS available with silver
exterior. I was at my dealer yesterday and they had 3
of these models on the lot!
GLS Limited! Gray interior IS available with silver
exterior. I was at my dealer yesterday and they had 3
of these models on the lot!
Well then, Hyundai USA is providing inaccurate information on their website, because that is where that information came from. However, there is an inconsistency in your information: You refer to the GLS Limited. An Elantra can be a GLS *or* a Limited, but not both. All GLSs have cloth interiors and all Limiteds have leather. Did the cars you were looking at have leather or cloth?
I submitted requests for quotes, over the Net, to four different dealers in my area (Metro Detroit).
Lafontaine Hyundai (Dearborn, MI) was the quickest to reply so I made a trip there and worked with their Internet Sales person. Once they ran my credit check I was passed over to the Sales Manager.
The MSRP I was given for a '06 Elantra GLS 4 dr AT w/ 02 premium package (sunroof, ABS, etc) was $16715.
That seemed a bit high to me.
Hyundai's website has the MSRP as: $15,495
The out the door price was $15,278 (after $1,000 rebate) and I would have gotten a 6.5% APR.
We had initially discussed the GLS Base model and the out the door given to me was $14,108.
In both cases the prices were approx $1,500 - $2,000 more than Edmunds TMV listed. I even had the Edmonds TMV sheet printed out and brought it with me.
I spent about 30 minutes with the Sales Manager and asked him a couple of times if he could do any better on the starting price. He ended up dropping it by $200, which got me to the OTD price I first listed ($15,278)
Edmonds TMV for '06 Elantra GLS (w/ package 02) -$1,000 rebate: $14,550 OTD
Lafontaine Hyundai OTD price for same car: $15,278
Difference: $728
I ended up thanking him for his time and walking, with the possibility of contacting him tomorrow to see if Hyundai has come out with any new incentives on the Elantra.
My main question is why would the MSRP have been so high? Are they just marking that up to begin with?
Also it seems, from reading this thread, that many people are getting the same car or very similar for several thousand less. Is it the area that I am in that is the reason for the higher price or am I reading the prices listed here incorrectly.
Some other trivial info:
Doc fee was $169 or $139.
He mentioned that his Holdback was $449.
MI sales tax is 6%.
Was I being given a good deal or was I right in walking for now?
Thanks for any input.
Add 6.5% tax to that to get to $17,801, plus your $139 doc fee = $17940 total out-the-door.
Take a $1000 rebate off that and you get about $17k. So they're coming down about $1700; doesn't sound like too bad of a deal to me.
Last year, I paid about $15k out-the-door for my Elantra GLS hatch without the ABS/moonroof (and last year, the premium sound system with door tweeters was not standard). $15,278 sounds like a decent deal to me. You may do better, but not that much better. When I punch all that into Edmunds for TMV I get $15,462, which does NOT include TT&L (which is another $1000+)
That price does NOT include a $1000 rebate (Hyundai doesn't get that information out right away at the beginning of the month), so even if you apply a $1000 rebate to the TMV, then add in TT&L, you're still getting a better deal.
That is good to hear that I was getting a pretty decent deal.
I haven't been in the car buying market for about 5 years so am pretty rusty.
If you don't mind driving to the Chicago area, drop the internet sales manager an e-mail at Pugi Hyundai-Mazda-VW in Downers Grove, IL. Their prices are extremely good, and they're also good people.
Just wanted to update you on my search. I changed midstream and decided on a GLS hatch instead of the sedan. These are even harder to find, but the guy at Jim Ellis was able to find me one and the price was $13,957 OTD, which is precisely the difference in the invoice price between the sedan and the hatch, so he really did me right.
So if you're still looking for the sedan, I'm pretty sure they have one left for $13,533 OTD.
I ended up, however, going elsewhere. I wanted the extended warranty (10/10,000 bumper to bumper-I plan on keeping this car for a long time) and they couldn't give me much of a deal on that ($1450), plus the dealer closer to home matched the car price, gave me the ext warranty for $870, and is going to be able to get me a better deal than my 7.2% HSBC Turbo Check. That clinched it for me.
So, aside from not being over the moon about the color (Champagne), I'm very happy with the end result. $13,957 OTD + the ext warranty. I didn't even bother with the trade-in. I'm driving a 1988 Civic with a broken AC compressor (with a SALVAGE title), how much could they possibly give me?
I have to say that the internet guy at Jim Ellis had the best price right out of the box, with no negotiating. His price became the price to beat, and while Iwas waiting for the other show to drop his price was legit. If you're still looking around I would definitely approach them again.
This forum and the whole Edmunds site was incredibly helpful in navigating the jungle of buying a new car. Thanks.
As low as $14,430 After $1,000 rebate. That's $2,00 more than I paid for mine in 04.
The local Nissan dealer has 2 06 Sentras "special edition"
auto, ac, cd, with 16" wheels for $12,229. Now that's a compelling value...
I am in the market for a new car. I test drove the hyundai elantra today and i am impressed. Just wondering how much (without the taxes or other fees) would could I expect to pay for the 06 Elantra GLS 4-door with the premium package (mainly for the ABS)?
Anybody in the Buffalo area here know some good dealers and what did you pay for the 06 elanta?
Also, since the ABS is going to be standard in the 07 models, should I wait for them? (they have the $1000 rebate now that may not be offered for the 07 model).
I appreciate your inputs. :shades:
The problem with the deal on the Sentra is, then you have to live with the Sentra.