what is the best way to do this, and please since i am a novice just describe the contacts you are referring to so i know i am cleaning the right things. last time, honda said they replaced them, at a cost of approximately $500
I would be simply shooting in the dark to try and answer this....
Like I said, it could be something as simple as a cracked hose, or the charcoal canister and purge system as a whole. That is like anywhere from $20 to $500!
Ok, been away a little while and I come back and this topic has a lot of entries. Not good. Update on the wind noise problem, dealer said they will replace the windshield. It is currently on order. When it is replaced, I will report back whether it fixes the problem.
As far as gas mileage is concerned, the car gets about 18 MPG with my wife driving it mostly city. We have seen low 20's when driving mostly highway (rated 20/28). As a comparison, my BMW 530 gets about 24-25 MPG combined (rated at 21/30) and I have seen over 30 MPG on long highway trips.
Granted the 05 is first year, however we have had more problems (fortunately relatively minor ones) than the 4+ years with my BMW (which had no probems). On the good side, I favor driving the Odessey over the BMW whenever my wife and kids are with me, just more room and easier access. Plus, my wife does not like me driving the BMW like it should be driven.
I use a fine grit sndpaper to clean the brass points on the inside of the door and the frame and it relieves the door mechanism problem. Over time the build up will create a poor connection...at least on mine, and sand paper cleans it off.... GLuck
Go real easy on the sandpaper. The surface is probably plating over a base metal, and if you wear thru it, the oxidation formation will occur much more readily. Try a pencil eraser, or wet emery cloth rather than conventional dry paper.
First, thanks to all for a terrific forum! We have had our Odyssey for three years now and absolutely LOVE it!! We have owned several Honda's for years and they are amazingly reliable vehicles (especially compared to BMW and Land Rover we had in the past). For the first time this summer, I've noticed that the A/C system (usually very strong) was not cooling off the cabin as fast as usual. It didn't feel like it was blowing air as cold as it should, and certainly not as cold as our new Accord. Now that the cold weather has arrived, I'm having a hard time defogging the windshield. All the settings are normal (Auto - windshield defog with A/C) and the system is blowing strong, but I guess not blowing any dry air. The problem must be the same or related to the one encountered over the summer. I do all the general maintenance on my cars myself so, before I bring it to a mechanic, I'm wondering if there is anything I can check (i.e. refrigerant level/pressure) and possibly fix myself. After all it's a HONDA, so it should be a pretty simple fix. Thanks in advance for any help you can provide!
Anyone else having problems with defective glass in their windshield? The dealership claims they're all like this, so he refues to replace it. The waves are very noticeable when looking out at a distance from the drivers side through the passanger's side. However, something funky is going on on the drivers side as well. I get the effect of driving with only one contact lens in...two different focuses I guess. I'm ready to pay to have it replaced myself, but I'm meeting with the customer rep. (whenever that'll be!), so I'd like to find others with the same problem, so I can go in armed with info. Had the same problem in our Accord also, but it's not nearly as bad. Thanks!
I have the exactly same buzzer sound issue as lrshirk had : While I was driving a buzzing sound (similar to a warning buzzer)started from what sounded like the left rear speaker on my Oddy 2000ex. I pulled to check it and when I put it in park the sound stopped. The sound began again when I put it back in drive. The sound is a continuous sound unlike the sliding door-open warning light and is only on when in reverse or drive.
While I was driving a buzzing sound (similar to a warning buzzer)started from what sounded like the left rear speaker on my Oddy 2000ex. I pulled to check it and when I put it in park the sound stopped. The sound began again when I put it back in drive. The sound is a continuous sound unlike the sliding door-open warning light and is only on when in reverse or drive.
I have the exactly same buzzer sound issue as lrshirk had :
While I was driving a buzzing sound (similar to a warning buzzer)started from what sounded like the left rear speaker on my Oddy 2000ex. I pulled to check it and when I put it in park the sound stopped. The sound began again when I put it back in drive. The sound is a continuous sound unlike the sliding door-open warning light and is only on when in reverse or drive.
I have a 2005 Touring (Ocean Mist) and I have paint chips on the front bumper. Also thought it could be rocks, but basically drive the exact same roads always have so should have noticed that on other vehicles and have not. We have 10K on it now.
Would like to know if others are experiencing this as well???
i want to thank all who responded to my question regarding the drivers side power door on my 01 oddy. I cleaned the contacts and moved some fuses around although all appeared good and the problem has gone away, at least temporarily.thanks for all the help.
Well, I forgot to call the local Honda dealer today to schedule an appointment, so I'll take care of that tomorrow.
Meanwhile, three new issues: 1. Check Engine light came on 2. TCS light is now on (even if I try to turn the light off by pushing the TCS button, the light won't go away) 3. On the gearshift selector in the instrument panel, the D spot flashes green constantly, whether I shift it into drive or not.
Any insights into the source (or sources) of the new issues?
Well we had a brand new transmission put in at 70,000 miles almost free of charge by Honda.
Transmissions don't die after 13,000 miles, do they?
(Almost 83K now)
I hope its either something REALLY minor (cheap fix) or something REALLY major (just give up and get something new) What'd be the worst case scenario would be something right in the middle- a big hit to the checking account, but not big enough to justify a new van.
Some years ago (maybe 10 or more???) Consumer Reports really made a big point of dinging vehicles that had optically distorted windshields, and urged buyers to complain. Maybe mfgrs got the hint and improved process control, because the incidents of their complains diminished pretty much to zero in a few years. Minivans and SUV's have large panels of glass, so optical distortion could certainly impair your ability to drive safely, or even make you feel queasy.
No glass is perfect, so it becomes a matter of whether you can live with it or not. Fortunately, my '02 is relatively OK, with small ripples in spots I rarely need to see thru. Push back hard if it is an issue of your safety and comfort.
Thanks, Steve. I'm going to try working through the Honda Customer rep., but if I get nowhere with him, I guess I'll start stopping by different dealerships.
I had the same prob... They had to change the switch on the door. It was veri irritating to have that noise for weeks!! Another option to not hear the noise temporarily is to turn the sliding door switch off... this is right above the buttons to open/close the doors from inside. Good luck!!
I'm new to the forum and I have some concerns that I hope I get some understading..I used to own a 2001 EX Ody (which I loved very much) and I just traded it in for a 2006 EX Ody end of September..I had it services twice due to the Engine wouldn't start. Honda reprogrammed my key cause they thought it was the immobolizer..Just last night when we were on the Freeway the car Shut Down on us..I was terrified!!! Currently the car is in the dealer for them to fix the problem..My concern is after the problem is fixed will I encounter this problem again??? I drive this car daily with my children and I am scared now to drive it again..any advice??
any update as to when Honda will have a fix for the front brake noise on the new odysseys ? We now have 17K on our 2005 and the noise continues to worsen under heavy braking such as on hills and in traffic. There appears to be heavy rubbing on the spindles below the pads, maybe the pads are expanding with heat buildup and the noise is coming from them rubbing against the spindle itself... who knows Paul
The same exact thing happened to my 2002 Ody a while back and it turned out to be loose battery connections. Although they seemed to be tight, there was just enough play for a drastic loss in the amperage supply. I had troubleshot it myself. I hope your problem is as simple as mine was - certainly worth checking before you spend big $$ on service (i.e. I hope you trust your dealer who could otherwise charge a lot for such a simple fix). Good luck!
I am looking to purchase a used Odyssey (2002 or 2003). these vehicles are pretty pricey ( asking 20K for a 2003 EXL with 58K miles). I am trying to base my decision of vehicle on reliability. After reading about numerous transmission problems, I have to ask if these problems are sporadic or is it a case of not Will it fail but WHEN it will fail?
What is the long term reliability of this vehicle such as at 150k miles and out.
Realize that we come to boards like this to grouse. I am on my second tranny (replaced at 34k on my '02 EX), yet at slightly over 50k miles, I would still recommend my Honda to a friend. In total, this vehicle has been far less problematic than any of my previous 9 new car purchases (including 3 Toyota's). Now I may change my opinion tomorrow should my fortune suddenly change, but overall, I think it stacks up well compared to the competition, which justifies the price.
Make sure that any '02 /'03 that you are considering have been inspected for the tranny recall, and have either had the unit replaced, or the 2nd gear fluid flow fix installed.
We just bought a 2006 Honda Odyssey EX and within ten minutes had problems with the VSA light, brake light and ABS lights coming on. We called the dealership and were told to push the button in and hold it then restart the engine. When we did this it appeared to go away, however, the next morning the same thing happened. We returned it to the dealership and they kept it all day - telling us it was a simple computer reset that they'd overlooked upon delivery. We drove it home and within five minutes the same thing happened again! We took it back to the dealership where it stayed for another day and were told that there was nothing wrong with it! We asked for a replacement Odyssey since it was brand new but of course the dealership didn't help us out there at all! We've now had it for 24 hours without problems but this is extremely concerning that a brand new Odyssey would have repeated problems immediately!
After following many forums for many years, I understand how this works. While reading these forums and hearing everybody complaining (happy customers don't have any reason to complain) I asked the question to get "perspective" on the issue.
Unfortunately, I own an expensive washing machine that had several design flaws. There are about 6 known defects and in that case if you hadn't had the failure yet, it was only a matter of time before you experienced them (all of them).
I was just trying to judge where on the scale these tranny problems fell. 10% failure or 90%.
Thanks for the information on what to ask about on the transmission. That really helps.
I got 2006 Odyssey for 3 weeks now and getting only 15-16 MPG on my first two full tank of gas. Then filled with Midgrade to compare the difference and still the same going for 15-16 MPG which is not acceptable to the advertised 20-28MPG. It's way below the rating. I considered Odyssey vice Pilot because of the MPG. Does anyone know if HONDA is doing anything on this problem? Let me know. Thanks.
user777 has some good ideas. My '06 got 22+ MPG from the gitgo. Do no heavy duty stop and go stuff. Still have AC on a lot in PHX. Round trip AZ-IA ave. 25.5 MPG.
We drove it home and within five minutes the same thing happened again! We took it back to the dealership where it stayed for another day and were told that there was nothing wrong with it! We asked for a replacement Odyssey since it was brand new but of course the dealership didn't help us out there at all! We've now had it for 24 hours without problems but this is extremely concerning that a brand new Odyssey would have repeated problems immediately!
I've had this a few times on some of my cars usually it's a bad connection/bad battery/bad alternator. I would document all service done at some point enough is enough. But at this time a new car is a little premature. Give em a chance and if they don't do well give em hell.
when there is an issue with steering-wheel mounted controls not working, the first thing that i would consider would be that the "clock-spring" may have to be replaced.
it is a device that maintains electrical continuity between steering-wheel controls and devices (cruise, horn, ABS, radio) and the wiring harness connecting to the rest of the auto's electronics. the device maintains this continuity in the circuits to these devices as the steering-wheel is rotated from one extent to the other.
it's possible that the issue is just with the radio switches.
if however your radio is not the original model, then that is probably your issue as the controls probably only work with certain honda radios.
I don't know if I am extremely lucky or not, but I have a '00 Odyssey EX with 112,000 miles and have had NO transmission problems. It still appears to shift as it always has since new. It would be interesting to hear from some Ody owners that have higher mileages and not had any transmission problems. If you have a high mileage Ody with out transmission problems, it sure would be nice to hear from you all. All I hear about is transmissions failing and getting replaced. Lets hear from the rest of us that have no problems. Thanks
I don't know if I am extremely lucky or not, but I have a '00 Odyssey EX with 112,000 miles and have had NO transmission problems. It still appears to shift as it always has since new. It would be interesting to hear from some Ody owners that have higher mileages and not had any transmission problems. If you have a high mileage Ody with out transmission problems, it sure would be nice to hear from you all. All I hear about is transmissions failing and getting replaced. Lets hear from the rest of us that have no problems. Thanks
Congratulations: you have a keeper. I thought that Honda only has problem with 5 speed Automatic Transmission and I wonder if the MY 2000 has the 4 speed or the 5 speed version. Honda did switch from 4 speed to 5 speed along with bumping up the Horse Power on the 3.5L V6 to 240 HP at that time. If your vehicle has 215 HP, it is likely you have the 4 speed. Another thing, not every 5 speed AT vehicle will fail. Someone mentiones that it is 1 out of 1000 vehicles would have the problem (But in Automotive quality standard, 1000 ppm is still very high. Typically, they want single ppm failure rate)
got 2006 Odyssey for 3 weeks now and getting only 15-16 MPG on my first two full tank of gas. Then filled with Midgrade to compare the difference and still the same going for 15-16 MPG which is not acceptable to the advertised 20-28MPG. It's way below the rating. I considered Odyssey vice Pilot because of the MPG. Does anyone know if HONDA is doing anything on this problem? Let me know. Thanks
We have had our 05 EX-L for a year now. For around town driving (slow speed, stop and go), we typically average 14 MPG. For HWY speed, if we keep vehicle speed about 60 MPH, we can get close to 25MPG. As soon as we do 75-80, the fuel efficciency would drop to about 21-22 MPG. The numbers are compatible to any vehicle with 4300 lbs mass (minivan or SUV). The Honda VCM (3 cylinder shut off) probably saves about 10% overall (2-3 extra miles for gallon).
I doubt that one can get close to the city EPA number unless he drives the same speed and road traffic exactly like in the EPA test. The same for HWY mileage. But it is easier to get close to EPA HWY number than the city one. May be we all need to learn to drive the way EPA tests vehicles to save gas (50MPH on Interstate for example). We may get shot at by those BMW or RAM pickup drivers waiting to pass us.
I do have numerous issues with my 05 HONDA Odyssey EX-L RES, what a piece of junk!!!!!!! I know I will trade it in soon for a Sienna. NEVER EVER AGAIN HONDA, and HOA one of the worst customer service I have ever experienced, lost a customer for LIFE :mad: !!!!!!!!!
Well, I'd recommend staying away from the first of the 2002s built, since mine was one of them, it seems to have more problems that some other Odysseys that my friends own.
Basically I'd stick to the ones they made in Lincoln, Alabama, after the first 2 months or so of production.
I think it'll make it to 150K, but not far after that.
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Like I said, it could be something as simple as a cracked hose, or the charcoal canister and purge system as a whole. That is like anywhere from $20 to $500!
Steve
Off topic for a second here, but that means the Entourage is back on my list... (if Navigation is available)
As far as gas mileage is concerned, the car gets about 18 MPG with my wife driving it mostly city. We have seen low 20's when driving mostly highway (rated 20/28). As a comparison, my BMW 530 gets about 24-25 MPG combined (rated at 21/30) and I have seen over 30 MPG on long highway trips.
Granted the 05 is first year, however we have had more problems (fortunately relatively minor ones) than the 4+ years with my BMW (which had no probems). On the good side, I favor driving the Odessey over the BMW whenever my wife and kids are with me, just more room and easier access. Plus, my wife does not like me driving the BMW like it should be driven.
GLuck
north14
Steve
perhaps the owner with the door problem might want to search the forum for the door relearn procedure and try it: messages 2648 and 3128 specifically.
We have had our Odyssey for three years now and absolutely LOVE it!! We have owned several Honda's for years and they are amazingly reliable vehicles (especially compared to BMW and Land Rover we had in the past). For the first time this summer, I've noticed that the A/C system (usually very strong) was not cooling off the cabin as fast as usual. It didn't feel like it was blowing air as cold as it should, and certainly not as cold as our new Accord. Now that the cold weather has arrived, I'm having a hard time defogging the windshield. All the settings are normal (Auto - windshield defog with A/C) and the system is blowing strong, but I guess not blowing any dry air. The problem must be the same or related to the one encountered over the summer.
I do all the general maintenance on my cars myself so, before I bring it to a mechanic, I'm wondering if there is anything I can check (i.e. refrigerant level/pressure) and possibly fix myself.
After all it's a HONDA, so it should be a pretty simple fix.
Thanks in advance for any help you can provide!
My dealer in SE PA wants $1600.
I am getting my '00 Ody done for $550 at a local repair shop.
While I was driving a buzzing sound (similar to a warning buzzer)started from what sounded like the left rear speaker on my Oddy 2000ex. I pulled to check it and when I put it in park the sound stopped. The sound began again when I put it back in drive. The sound is a continuous sound unlike the sliding door-open warning light and is only on when in reverse or drive.
Any thoughts? Thanks.
While I was driving a buzzing sound (similar to a warning buzzer)started from what sounded like the left rear speaker on my Oddy 2000ex. I pulled to check it and when I put it in park the sound stopped. The sound began again when I put it back in drive. The sound is a continuous sound unlike the sliding door-open warning light and is only on when in reverse or drive.
Any thoughts? Thanks.
Would like to know if others are experiencing this as well???
Meanwhile, three new issues:
1. Check Engine light came on
2. TCS light is now on (even if I try to turn the light off by pushing the TCS button, the light won't go away)
3. On the gearshift selector in the instrument panel, the D spot flashes green constantly, whether I shift it into drive or not.
Any insights into the source (or sources) of the new issues?
Transmissions don't die after 13,000 miles, do they?
(Almost 83K now)
I hope its either something REALLY minor (cheap fix) or something REALLY major (just give up and get something new) What'd be the worst case scenario would be something right in the middle- a big hit to the checking account, but not big enough to justify a new van.
No glass is perfect, so it becomes a matter of whether you can live with it or not.
Fortunately, my '02 is relatively OK, with small ripples in spots I rarely need to see thru. Push back hard if it is an issue of your safety and comfort.
Steve
Local dealership is working on putting in a new transmission, free of charge, under the 100K warranty.
They say its the source for the gasoline smell, and all the lights that lit up yesterday.
Thanks for your help everyone
My wife said it was the transmission, but it was something minor.
A wire that was chewed up by a squirrel.
Well, at least problem's solved now.
I'm new to the forum and I have some concerns that I hope I get some understading..I used to own a 2001 EX Ody (which I loved very much) and I just traded it in for a 2006 EX Ody end of September..I had it services twice due to the Engine wouldn't start. Honda reprogrammed my key cause they thought it was the immobolizer..Just last night when we were on the Freeway the car Shut Down on us..I was terrified!!! Currently the car is in the dealer for them to fix the problem..My concern is after the problem is fixed will I encounter this problem again??? I drive this car daily with my children and I am scared now to drive it again..any advice??
There appears to be heavy rubbing on the spindles below the pads, maybe the pads are expanding with heat buildup and the noise is coming from them rubbing against the spindle itself... who knows
Paul
I hope your problem is as simple as mine was - certainly worth checking before you spend big $$ on service (i.e. I hope you trust your dealer who could otherwise charge a lot for such a simple fix).
Good luck!
What is the long term reliability of this vehicle such as at 150k miles and out.
Thanks,
Neal
Realize that we come to boards like this to grouse. I am on my second tranny (replaced at 34k on my '02 EX), yet at slightly over 50k miles, I would still recommend my Honda to a friend. In total, this vehicle has been far less problematic than any of my previous 9 new car purchases (including 3 Toyota's). Now I may change my opinion tomorrow should my fortune suddenly change, but overall, I think it stacks up well compared to the competition, which justifies the price.
Make sure that any '02 /'03 that you are considering have been inspected for the tranny recall, and have either had the unit replaced, or the 2nd gear fluid flow fix installed.
Steve
After following many forums for many years, I understand how this works. While reading these forums and hearing everybody complaining (happy customers don't have any reason to complain) I asked the question to get "perspective" on the issue.
Unfortunately, I own an expensive washing machine that had several design flaws. There are about 6 known defects and in that case if you hadn't had the failure yet, it was only a matter of time before you experienced them (all of them).
I was just trying to judge where on the scale these tranny problems fell. 10% failure or 90%.
Thanks for the information on what to ask about on the transmission. That really helps.
Neal
it's reasonable to expect a MPG improvement as the engine breaks in. i noticed this effect with my 2003.
be easy on the throttle. check your tire inflation pressure.
fill up. go on a long hwy ride at near constant speed 55-60. zero your trip odometer. fill up again and divide miles driven into gallons pumped.
try the same experiment at 5K miles.
I've had this a few times on some of my cars usually it's a bad connection/bad battery/bad alternator. I would document all service done at some point enough is enough. But at this time a new car is a little premature. Give em a chance and if they don't do well give em hell.
it is a device that maintains electrical continuity between steering-wheel controls and devices (cruise, horn, ABS, radio) and the wiring harness connecting to the rest of the auto's electronics. the device maintains this continuity in the circuits to these devices as the steering-wheel is rotated from one extent to the other.
it's possible that the issue is just with the radio switches.
if however your radio is not the original model, then that is probably your issue as the controls probably only work with certain honda radios.
hope it helps.
Congratulations: you have a keeper. I thought that Honda only has problem with 5 speed Automatic Transmission and I wonder if the MY 2000 has the 4 speed or the 5 speed version. Honda did switch from 4 speed to 5 speed along with bumping up the Horse Power on the 3.5L V6 to 240 HP at that time. If your vehicle has 215 HP, it is likely you have the 4 speed. Another thing, not every 5 speed AT vehicle will fail. Someone mentiones that it is 1 out of 1000 vehicles would have the problem (But in Automotive quality standard, 1000 ppm is still very high. Typically, they want single ppm failure rate)
jt
We have had our 05 EX-L for a year now. For around town driving (slow speed, stop and go), we typically average 14 MPG. For HWY speed, if we keep vehicle speed about 60 MPH, we can get close to 25MPG. As soon as we do 75-80, the fuel efficciency would drop to about 21-22 MPG. The numbers are compatible to any vehicle with 4300 lbs mass (minivan or SUV). The Honda VCM (3 cylinder shut off) probably saves about 10% overall (2-3 extra miles for gallon).
I doubt that one can get close to the city EPA number unless he drives the same speed and road traffic exactly like in the EPA test. The same for HWY mileage. But it is easier to get close to EPA HWY number than the city one.
May be we all need to learn to drive the way EPA tests vehicles to save gas (50MPH on Interstate for example). We may get shot at by those BMW or RAM pickup drivers waiting to pass us.
jt
Basically I'd stick to the ones they made in Lincoln, Alabama, after the first 2 months or so of production.
I think it'll make it to 150K, but not far after that.
Just know ALL makes have their problems and similar complaints.
Just that your chances of getting problems are lower in a Honda/Toyota than something less reliable.