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In my opinion, Ford could choose to limit production on the Mach 1 as well, which will result in customers paying MSRP or above. Hopefully, the unvieling at the N.Y. Auto Show this week will shed some light on production numbers. I was leaning toward purchasing a new Mach 1, as the last one I purchased new was in 1973. It would be cool to buy another one 30 years later!
There is no doubt that I'm a Ford fan, but what really chaps me is that the blue oval guys choose to limit production on the pinnacle of their horsepower offerings while GM does not. The rival cars which Ford is targeting are readily available to the masses. I can understand Ford limiting production of the upcoming GT40, but have never understood this approach on the Cobra.
While exclusivity may build excitement, it can also build resentment from the premiums being charged. Of course we all have the right to vote with our wallet and refuse to pay "the market adjustment" premium.
Thats 10,000 superchargers, intercoolers, hoods, etc.
SLP doesn't mnake 10,000 SS's and Chevy held back on the first year of Impala SS's due to suppliers unable to make that many sets of wheels.
http://media.ford.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=11508
Also, how "real" are some of the predictions about dealers pricing Cobras ~10k above MSRP (and lack of availability). I could probably be convinced to go 35k for a top of the line mustang.....but mid-40s...that seems pretty steep. Of course, my only experience with mustangs was my sisters '77 (4 cyl) which was a dog and I had a '79 5Lit. Capri when I was a teen(which moved pretty good) but fell apart when it hit 85000 miles.
Sorry for the "wandering" nature of the post but some you folks seem pretty knowledgable about these cars.
I am currently a Cobra owner and it is an awesome driving machine. Yes, I am biased. But if you drove one you would know why.
This is the true American car.
The 03 Cobra is expected to be a BIG hit. This car is already fully loaded, the only option available for upgrade is chrome rims. Everything else is standard on this car.
The average dealer mark up is around 2-5k above MSRP. Although I really want to get in to this car I will not pay the mark up. I think the price will come down. In comparison to Vette, this car is in a totally different class.
The Vette is a sport car, the Cobra is a muscle car. Sure the Cobra may keep up, but that is not Ford's intent. The only reason people are comparing these cars together are because of the hiatus of the Camaro and the Firebird.
My 93 Chevy s-10 4x 4 pick up has 120,000 miles and runs well.
I loved my 68 327 camaro and had a 90 RS that was a lemon. My 95 thunderbird was great, of all my cars the fords were the most reliable. Chevy and Chrysler in that order the worst. drove the heck out of my Hyundais, with minor problems.
There was only two cars I really felt bad about selling that was my first Camaro and my T-bird.
Earlier this year I purchased a Mustang-gt premium coupe-automatic,what a Great car.It far surpassed any other car I owned.
But along came the 2003 Cobra, one test drive and I was
impressed. I agonized over taking a beating on the GT on Trade, but folks let me tell you-for me The Cobra is phenomenal. Yes we all read about the specs and the comparisons. But I feel it all boils down to the individual response to the vehicle.
My dark shadow Gray cobra is a magnificent automoble.To me it handles and accelerates with authority and precision.
People who know me will say in a few years he will
get another car, but as of now of any car I have
driven or owned, I like to think this one is a keeper.
It has all the feel of what a performance car should be. It is so much different then a GT-mustang. I plan to drive about 5 thousand miles a year in this car. I also feel this vehicle can be driven just like any other Factory performance car.( The side to side handling is outstanding)
Yes it is high performance,the cab is not like a sedan and the clutch is glunky and a little hard to shift, but the more you drive the car
the more second nature it becomes, and all of sudden it can be a car you do not want to stop driving. The sixth gear has value especially when your touring.
To each there own but for me,yes $36,000 is a lot for even for me, but I do not think I WILL HAVE ANY REGRETS.
Production has resumed.
It seems a dealer bulletin on Quality CONTROL CHECK POINTS was confusing.
No engine issues at this time---the engines have been performing well. They will build 2003 models until August 2003-( 10,000 to 12,000).
Cobra certificates will be issued October 2003.
http://media.ford.com/events/2002_SEMA.cfm
What do you guys think...
Sylvain
Looks pretty good, though to me Sonic Blue is more "musclecar" than "road racer" (I personally like Cobras in subdued colors that match its purposeful, "function over form" styling...how many other performance cars allow you to delete the spoiler if you want?)
Of course, I'm biased...I own and love a True Blue GT.
-John
Thank you!
Is $37,750 a good price for this snake? I live in N. Cal. Which color looks sexy?
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f6197.pdf
You see that the IRS charges the dealers the 1000 dollars for a cobra. The posted gas milage on a cobra is 22 miles per gallon. If it were 22.5 you would not have to pay anything.
What do you people think of the collectability of the 2003 Cobra? I like it a lot - I also like the way the next generation is looking. Part of me thinks that the 2003 Cobra will hold its value and become a collector car whereas the 2005 GT will suffer from high production numbers. Initially they may be pricey, but I'd guess that 10-15 years down the road the 2003 Cobra will be worth a much higher percentage of its original sticker than the 2005 GT. Opinions??
High horsepower and good styling, added to rarity, would help but for American cars, it has to be really really rare and really really powerful and really really desirable to bring serious money.
Probably it'll be a "second tier" collectible but I doubt it's going to see Mopar Hemi money in our lifetimes.
But you know, you never know. I never thought anyone would pay $15,000 for a Delorean, but it has happened.
And now, back to our regularly scheduled topic
I assumed that when referring the the "GT" he meant the Mustang GT (since he does seperately refer to the GT40 in other parts).
I still think Ford should have called it the "GT44"...I was also in favor of Chrysler calling the turbo PT-Cruiser model the "GT Cruiser"...shows what I know.
Concerning the vibration, there is little excuse for this. I have also test driven new BMW 540i 6 speed which too has been sitting for some time and no vibration on that one. They are willing to sell the Cobra for $ 35K even. I would probably buy it if it were not for the vibration, which is in my estimation a bad omen. I had horrible experience with a 85 Mustang GT with vibration. It too had initial vibration which was eliminated by the dealer, but it came back with a vengeance after I bought the car and nobody could get rid of it. I simply do not need a muscle car that lacks refinement. Any comments would be appreciated.
I suggest you buy the BMW then. When one buy's a Mustang GT, or Cobra (I have an '01 Cobra) you're buying performance for dollar, not a high expectation of refinement. Stalling out a v8 Mustang, that's nothing unusual for a first time driver. Vibration.. my car is actually quite smooth, a blast to drive, in spite of the lack of refinement.
There's also a review section where people post reviews of products, so that might be of use.
Any input is appreciated.